Has Ubisoft Destroyed the Tom Clancy Brand?

Ubisoft's Tom Clancy games once stood at the top of the heap as a shining example of what military and tactical shooters could aspire to accomplish, but since the beginning of this generation, Ubi seems to have completely ditched the successful foundation of earlier Clancy games in favor of simplistic and dry sequels.

[berndogskate]

yes they have the new one is utter rubbishn and runs piss poor on the ps3, F..K UBISOFT

[sloth3395]

the only thing running back is the multiplayer

[BlmThug]

Mr Caffeine destroyed 'Tom Calancy'

[otherZinc]

Splinter Cell:Conviction was terrific! Double Agent was not good.

All GRAW games were great & Ghost Recon games. All Rainbow 6 & Vegas games were great!

Ghost Recon:Future Soldier is friggin terrible! I knew this was going to happen when they said this was going to release & be developed simultaneously with the PS3.

Gone is the 12 player co-op over a massive map that all of my boys used to play for hours. Gone is controlling your squad!

Ive purchased 2 copies of R6 & Recon games for the co-op, this time I bought 1. I'm not buying another, now my son understands why I'm pissed.

[Hufandpuf]

Rainbow Six Vegas 2 was the last great Tom Clancy game.

[tigertron]

Even then it was riddled with bugs and lag. Well, that was the PS3 version anyway, not sure about the others. Other than that I thought it was a great game.

[Hufandpuf]

IDK about the PS3 version, but I was playing on xbox and online was fine.

[BattleAxe]

Its was fine on both PS3 and PC from what I played. Its still the best co-op game out there today. Can anyone confirm whether or not GR:FS is as good as GRAW2?

[Spydiggity]

no, the graw series was better. but, it is still a good game. the multiplayer is kinda pointless, but the co-op is fun.

[morganfell]

I'm sorry Huf but I can't agree with you. The title was little more than a selection of set pieces where some dev sat around and said, "Oh look, this would be cool if one guy could enter the door this way and two this way" and then they found a way to cram that piece into the game. Three man teams? Pffft.

They had the most unbalanced set of weapons in the history of any Tom Clancy game. Just one example was MP which was rife with people running around with scoped P90s with a three round burst (which doesn't exist in the real world) and you kill guys more accurately and faster across those longest distances of those little maps than you could with a SR-25 or M40. When the devs tried to fix the game after launch they just made matters worse.

Things like that ridiculous 3rd person back to the wall cover mode threw realism right out the window. REALISM - THE FORMER HALLMARK OF CLANCY TITLES. Realism was destroyed by games like GR2, GRAW, and Vegas.

Rainbow Six 3 Raven Shield on the PC was the last great game in that series. It was also the last one (along with it's add-on Athena Sword and the free Iron Wrath) that possessed the ability to set up your entire mission plan with Go Codes prior to entering play. It had a weapon view and very intricate dangerous maps that was more than a collection of those aforementioned set pieces.

The console versions were trash compared to the full blown PC experience. That isn't the fault of the console but once again dumbed down design choices made by Redstorm under the approval of Ubisoft.

BTW if you get the Impreal Iron Sight mod for R63 then you have the best possible in both worlds and still a great tactical shooter that has almost no equal years later.

[SnotyTheRocket]

Thats why this one is getting 8/10, because it sucks. /s <--- sarcasm

[SKullDugger]

You said it this new GR is horrible..

[Dazel]

It's not Recon of old but all games evolve over time to suit a new demographic. However if they fix the lag and server crashes I will keep playing, loving it so far.

[Yomaster]

GRFS is definitely not a bad game. I've enjoyed most of what it has to offer since I started playing on release day.

However, it DOES need a number of issues patched. Without some quick and heavy support from Ubisoft, I fear GRFS might suffer a pretty short lifespan...

[FlashXIII]

It's a LOT better than the GRAW games. Tom Clancy brand was destroyed though a long time ago. Long gone are the real tactical days of games like the original ghost recon and raven shield.

[Bathyj]

I liked the GRAW games.

And least they were tactical. You could issue orders to your teammates and it took planning.

[Sidewinder-]

Yes.

[NYC_Gamer]

The Tom Clancy brand used to produce quality tactical games.......Ubisoft ruined that by aiming for the massive appeal and smacking old school fans in the face by releasing casual bull shit..

[AusRogo]

But ive heard alot of good things about future soldier?

[Bathyj]

I think people who have never play Ghost Recon might enjoy it.

Long time fans of the series will have their hearts broken.

[haggishurler]

It is a great game just not ultra tactical.

[GamingPerson]

One shots kills!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[JasonBloodbourne]

Bring back full spectrum warrior is what I say!

[Bathyj]

Now youre talking.

I love a bit of FSW.

We really need a new one.

[AgreeFairy]

They destroyed it after GR2. The GRAW games were just as bad.

[JIG]

GRFS is a good game. Its excellent to play wit
h friends. Ive played the older tom clancy games. My biggest issues are the couple of glitches throughout the game. Whereas me & my co-op buddies had to reload to recent checkpoint & the biggest difference is that u cant issue commands to AI teammates. But if u play wit four of your friends your all good. Graphics are good. Cutscene graphics dont look as good as most games but who cares about them

[Tdmd]

Can you tell me if coop is invite only?

[haggishurler]

Yes it is if you want to play with randoms use a forum, it's much better than match making anyway.

[Tdmd]

Thank you for the info, haggishurler. Unfortunately for me, I like the convenience of match making. Will wait a price drop.

[Lucretia]

honestly tom clancys name has never meant anything to me, i played rainbow six, played ghost recon, Hawx and splinter cell.

nothing impressive on the story at all. to me its just a marketing strategy. its like saying Oh another steven speilberg movie, who cares, aslong as the product is good i dont care about the name

[--Onilink--]

i think this kind of game could really find a home on the Wii U if done properly. That second screen would be great for some real planning and managing your squad, kinda like they had shown in the concept trailer for GR Online.

[2pacalypsenow]

whats wrong with future soldier? is just a bad port or game cuz if its a bad port i dont care im getting it on PC anyways

[Bathyj]

Its not the port. It looks and runs fine.

Its the game design. Dumb AI, hand holding, no team orders (WTF?)

I was worried from the very start when my teammate took cover against a burning car.

Apparently kevlar repels fire as well as bullets.

[2pacalypsenow]

Oooo dang i pre purchased it on steam i really like the graw series should i cancel my order and wait for it to be on sale?

[Bathyj]

Up to you mate. I dont want to tell people what they should and shouldnt buy, but I will say I wish I hadnt bought it.

I love GRAW too but this game is nothing like it. I'm so disappointed.

You cant give any orders to your teammates except the mark and execute order. You cant tell them where to stand or to go quite or loud and they keep sprinting ahead forcing you to run after them to catch up which is the most annoying thing for me cos I like to go slow and careful. It goes against the whole grain of the game.

You can turn your back on them for a few seconds and suddenly they're 50 meters (150ft) away from you, sometimes already engaging without you. Shouldnt the player be the one deciding when to go?

Some other things really boggle the mind.

Teammates standing in a fire not getting burnt, I saw one shoot a guy through a shipping crate when he didnt even have line of sight and whats with the sound when you shoot someone? Not the gunshot, but the actual bullet hitting them, It sounds like hitting a cardboard box with a stick.

If you just like action shooting games, its ok. Its looks good and plays alright, but if you're a fan and were expecting a "thinking mans" shooter like they said it was, look elsewhere.

But dont just take my word for it. Anyone else agree with my assessment?

[RickHiggity]

Ubisoft destroyed a lot of things

[Rob Hornecker]

GRFS is a HUGE disappointment! It has to be one of the worst games I have ever played and I have always been a fan of anything Tom Clancy.

For my money and the overall fun factor,I will take BF3 over any other FPS game!