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E3: Sony's Peter Dille: Xbox 360 not sustainable, HD DVD dead within months

Talking to Gamasutra during a one-on-one interview, Peter Dille, the new senior vice president of marketing for PlayStation maintained that the 360 cannot sustain itself over a 10 year cycle – and also stated that he believes HD DVD will be dead within months.

Peter Dille:
"With the Xbox 360 you've got an inconsistent design, some have a harddrive, some don't, and none of them have Blu-Ray, and the HD DVD will be out of business in a matter of months. Is this a 10 year product? And by the way it doesn't even work. Do they want to be selling it for 10 years and refurbishing them all for 10 more years? I don't think that's a 10 year product. You could disagree with me, or they could disagree with me, but I'd put that up against the PS3 any day."

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iballa6146d ago

Let the flame wars begin...

SWORDF1SH6146d ago

.... ms can keep havin a dig at ps3 but the fact wont change that dvd is to small for the next gen and ms have a unrealible product thats gonna cost them millions. thats why ms hope thats sonys price cut will fail because they cant do a price cut for themselves because of the millions the 360 is gonna cost them

Caxtus7506146d ago (Edited 6146d ago )

he is probably right but am i going to want to be playing my PS3 in 10 years time when i am 26?

I will want newer technology by then and i think the harcore gamer will too.

10 years ago the Psone was kicking off....now that is a LONg time indeed.

brianodom6146d ago

i've been playing my sega dreamcast for years

Also Known As6146d ago

once the 360 gets the new chips this year any issues that it may have had will be resolved so this guy is full of it.

marinelife96146d ago

What he is saying is true but it's bad form to openly criticize your competitor in business. Bringing attention to your competitor's weaknesses should be done strictly by showing your own product's strengths. Telling the consumer how great your offering is infers that the competitors offering is weaker.

Kratosnake6146d ago

Here's the thing tho: it's not just about the fact that 10 yrs from now we'll have technology that'll surpass today's, it's just a matter of consumer adaption. Blu-ray is gonna last for atleast 5-7 yrs, there's absolutely no reason for major companies to invest in newer technologies so soon when they've already spent billions backing and promoting blu-ray/hd-dvd.

I doubt it'll be 10 yrs, but it's going to be atleast a 5 year console, unlike 360, which is done i think next year. time for the nextbox, some might say.

PS3n3606146d ago

Ouch man that hurt. I am 36 years old and i didnt start gaming till i was 26. My bet is that you will still be gaming and judging by the reliability of the PS3 you very well may be playing it in 10 years. Gamers are getting older and older people are getting attracted to gamings increasingly adult content. Or maybe I am just a little kid inside still. After all I still skateboard, surf, smoke dope, and play vids.

tehcellownu6146d ago (Edited 6146d ago )

cant argue with that its the truth..microsoft is never goin to make a profit..and losin billion on defective hardware..who buys a 360 that have a chance to die on u from the first day u play it.. xbots always say the 360 have the games no really the ps3 is goin to have it too..and guess what im goin to be able to play it all the time..and your 360 will be at the repair shop for the 6th time..lol.

Mycococo6146d ago

look at the xbox...more powerful than the ps2 but the potential for the console was seen early on in the consols life.

look at the ps2...the first games were nasty! and then the devs got the hang of it amd maxed out the power gradually over the years.

the way sony designs its processors is for them to be powerful conceptually so that they will be relavent grfx wise for the 10 YEARS OF GAMING. competing with pc and the rest of the consols.

with microsoft...THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN OVERCLOCK BEFORE IT OVERHEATS! lol hahahahaha

Caxtus7506146d ago

hehe il be gaming forever i hope :)

Im not saying ages are bad, sorry if it came across like that. I meant that in 10 years from now I will want to be playing on a PS4 or XBox 3 and not on the PS3 or 360.

In 10 years the Psone (95) has gone to 360 (2005) ...it is a long time when you look back. A whole generation in the middle.

Texas GMR6146d ago

10 years is too long for any type of gaming technology. I don't want to be playing the same game system in 10 years.

The only people playing the old systems are the ones who can't afford the new ones, or they're too young to know better. It's a simple as that.

sony fan6146d ago (Edited 6145d ago )

Hey fellow sony fans, I must report our desperation is growing right on target. Hey I know, lets keep pretending and hoping blue-ray makes a difference. We would not want to admit we paid a buncha money to be sony's blue-ray pons, even though a DVD 9 is all we would ever need. Hey lets all forget how much we enjoyed Final Fantasy 3,4,5,6,7,8,9 which all had 4 discs and many other playstation tiltes. And even though we liked the feeling of accomplishment from changing a disc after a lot of playing hours lets say we don't like it now. Hey lets all pretend the xbox will still have problems even though it is totally fixed. And Hey WE BETTER FORGET about MASS EFFECT, you know that game which is the most graphically impressive and longest, most in-depth game this year. It must need 10 dvd 9, OH wait just one? WEll, WE STILL NEED BLUE-RAY. In fact now it is the end of the world if we have to get up once every 30 hours to change a dics. We sony fans fan sure do change are inds pretty quick if sony tells us to, but Hey at least their blu-ray players seeing a huge spike because of us. yay
http://forums.xbox-scene.co...

riskibusiness6145d ago

Both the XBOX 360 and PS3 are outdated or near it at least. I want a new one every 4-5 year minimum. 10 Years is a joke!

JsonHenry6145d ago

why would gamers WANT any system to last longer than 5-6 years with the way technology keeps advancing?

eLiNeS6145d ago

Dille Pickle breath won’t be around for 10 weeks after that interview, what a moron!
M$ did everything right with the Xbox 360 even if there were a few problems here and there, at least there standing by it. The 360 is about gaming first and foremost where the PofS3 is about pushing Blu-Ray movies first and foremost. M$ didn't force you to buy a HD-DVD player, they didn't force you to buy a wireless adapter that would be obsolete in a few years with the ever changing wireless adoptions. They have proven there is plenty of room on the DVD9 for this gen HD games. The controllers have force feedback right out of the box where the PofS3 fanboys at first said they don't want rumble anyway but with rumors that it's coming soon they now can't wait for it to come out and of course you will have to buy all new controllers, LOL. So your $600 box will turn in to an $800 box overnight unless of course you only buy one, LOL, because you’re out of money and can’t afford it. Fony had to drop there so called price just to move a couple PofS3’s out the door and now they’re saying there dropping that skew once there all gone, then they took that back and then they changed their mind again, AHHHHH what is it?!?!?!? Fony is not doing well this gen but there Blu-Ray is, I think, who knows, who cares. Up-scale DVD is here to stay. I don’t want to have to replace the 1200 DVD’s I own just for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. The lineup of games coming to the 360 THIS year is incredible and makes me proud to be playing on an Xbox 360. Once Fony takes there head out of there @$$ and give the gamers what gamers want at the right price, maybe holiday season of 2008, maybe I will pick one up, if they drop their boring HOME project. LOL

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SofaKingReetodded6146d ago

and I get the feeling that they surf these websites for our feedback because it's the exact same thing we've been saying for months about the 360.

dragunrising6146d ago

D1ck. Might as well say your sleeping with Peter Dille if you believe every word that comes out of "any" marketing rep. With the recent price drop I'm thinking of buying a PS3 (Lair anyone?). Still...if you listen to every word that comes from Jack Tretton and Peter Moores salad tossing mouth your foolish. They all talk bs.

Watching_N4G6146d ago

What a Dille hole.

Sony has discontinued the 20GB and 60GB within 8 months of release.

Whatever Dillehead.

VendettaWFT6145d ago

he made one great point which is what Microsoft should really listen too and that is not abandoning your consumers once a new system comes out. I do agree that this guy said some things that he shouldn't have and he was taking some cheap shots, like an idiot. But he's right in one regards, the way microsoft just flat out abandoned the XBOX users by just not making games for them anymore was just complete and utter Bullshi%. Thats one thing Sony does right, surprisingly, is that they offer their consoles up for a long period of time and support them as well.

360RULEZ6146d ago (Edited 6146d ago )

blablablabla whatever

sony losers lie to their own fandroidbases about their own products ( hint hint : fake pricedrop ) ... so it's natural that they would lie about other products proclaiming them as dead.

the only "dead" thing is your pridrop, and the 499$ 60 gb PS3, sony droids.

Xbox360 Elite FTW

@Watching_N4G above : amen brother .. Dillehead .. hahahahah

iballa6146d ago

looking at your picture, i'd say your slightly bias

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow9h ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK8h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot5h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker4h ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz2h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

XiNatsuDragnel8h ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher7h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

Hofstaderman8h ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance8h ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde6h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

RpgSama6m ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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The Games Industry Continues To Wonder What Is The Point Of Its Own Existence

While many gaming layoffs are cruel, Tango Gameworks being culled after Hi-Fi Rush doesn't even make sense.

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Psychonaut8518h ago

Good read. I think the point is important. Cuz the message it sends is, make a bad game? Well shut you down. Make a good game? We still might shut you down. How the fuck are you supposed to feel any sense of job security under those conditions. The level of core incompetence at play in the upper levels of this industry is staggering. This is common sense shit. You can’t chase trends on a 2 year cycle when games take fucking 6-8 years to make. Just let artists fucking art for gods sake. They don’t understand the basic principle that they’re all haggling for the same slice of fucking pie and the market will not bear it. Find a different fucking pie.

TiredGamer15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Might be a great game but it clearly did not make enough money to justify having the team make another game (under the MS umbrella).

It's never been just about whether your game is good or bad. The industry is full of great/underrated games that have a cult following or critical acclaim, but that fail to make great sales. Sad but true. It's a high stakes game, and at the end of the day, companies have to be profitable and make profitable investments. At the very least, there has to be the expectation of a long-term profit even if not profitable today. That goes for anything, no matter if the company is gigantic or a tiny mom-and-pop. We don't have to like it, but our buying habits played a hand in creating this monster.

I will keep harping that the industry has overreached its actual market and that it will implode. That implosion is already starting.

ApocalypseShadow10h ago

I partially agree with what you're saying in that companies need to sell well to make it in the industry. Something I've said again and again. Sony and Nintendo understand this about gaming by selling the game for as long as you can, then drop it on a service for additional revenue. It's why you won't see Sony and Nintendo expensively developed games on a service day one. It doesn't make business sense to do so.

The thing is about Tango is that they weren't given a chance after the acquisition when their game was shadow dropped on a console where gamers are told to not buy games but to rent them on a service for pennies. That kills day one sales even for small indie like developers who have big budgets for their company size.

Microsoft destroyed them in favor of pushing their services over investing in these developers futures or their games they created.

P_Bomb12h ago

“…make a bad game? Well shut you down. Make a good game? We still might shut you down.”

I got chills. It shouldn’t have come to this.

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Interview on Fallout 4 with the Actor for Nick Valentine, Codsworth & Mr Handy (Stephen Russell)

Interview with Stephen Russell, Actor for (Nick Valentine, Codsworth, My Handy) in Fallout 4 which is a vast open world role playing game set in the apocalyptic wastes of Boston, the Commonwealth. The career goes further with other Bethesda games from Starfield to Prey to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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