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E3: Sony's Peter Dille: Xbox 360 not sustainable, HD DVD dead within months

Talking to Gamasutra during a one-on-one interview, Peter Dille, the new senior vice president of marketing for PlayStation maintained that the 360 cannot sustain itself over a 10 year cycle – and also stated that he believes HD DVD will be dead within months.

Peter Dille:
"With the Xbox 360 you've got an inconsistent design, some have a harddrive, some don't, and none of them have Blu-Ray, and the HD DVD will be out of business in a matter of months. Is this a 10 year product? And by the way it doesn't even work. Do they want to be selling it for 10 years and refurbishing them all for 10 more years? I don't think that's a 10 year product. You could disagree with me, or they could disagree with me, but I'd put that up against the PS3 any day."

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iballa6133d ago

Let the flame wars begin...

SWORDF1SH6133d ago

.... ms can keep havin a dig at ps3 but the fact wont change that dvd is to small for the next gen and ms have a unrealible product thats gonna cost them millions. thats why ms hope thats sonys price cut will fail because they cant do a price cut for themselves because of the millions the 360 is gonna cost them

Caxtus7506133d ago (Edited 6133d ago )

he is probably right but am i going to want to be playing my PS3 in 10 years time when i am 26?

I will want newer technology by then and i think the harcore gamer will too.

10 years ago the Psone was kicking off....now that is a LONg time indeed.

brianodom6133d ago

i've been playing my sega dreamcast for years

Also Known As6133d ago

once the 360 gets the new chips this year any issues that it may have had will be resolved so this guy is full of it.

marinelife96133d ago

What he is saying is true but it's bad form to openly criticize your competitor in business. Bringing attention to your competitor's weaknesses should be done strictly by showing your own product's strengths. Telling the consumer how great your offering is infers that the competitors offering is weaker.

Kratosnake6133d ago

Here's the thing tho: it's not just about the fact that 10 yrs from now we'll have technology that'll surpass today's, it's just a matter of consumer adaption. Blu-ray is gonna last for atleast 5-7 yrs, there's absolutely no reason for major companies to invest in newer technologies so soon when they've already spent billions backing and promoting blu-ray/hd-dvd.

I doubt it'll be 10 yrs, but it's going to be atleast a 5 year console, unlike 360, which is done i think next year. time for the nextbox, some might say.

PS3n3606133d ago

Ouch man that hurt. I am 36 years old and i didnt start gaming till i was 26. My bet is that you will still be gaming and judging by the reliability of the PS3 you very well may be playing it in 10 years. Gamers are getting older and older people are getting attracted to gamings increasingly adult content. Or maybe I am just a little kid inside still. After all I still skateboard, surf, smoke dope, and play vids.

tehcellownu6133d ago (Edited 6133d ago )

cant argue with that its the truth..microsoft is never goin to make a profit..and losin billion on defective hardware..who buys a 360 that have a chance to die on u from the first day u play it.. xbots always say the 360 have the games no really the ps3 is goin to have it too..and guess what im goin to be able to play it all the time..and your 360 will be at the repair shop for the 6th time..lol.

Mycococo6133d ago

look at the xbox...more powerful than the ps2 but the potential for the console was seen early on in the consols life.

look at the ps2...the first games were nasty! and then the devs got the hang of it amd maxed out the power gradually over the years.

the way sony designs its processors is for them to be powerful conceptually so that they will be relavent grfx wise for the 10 YEARS OF GAMING. competing with pc and the rest of the consols.

with microsoft...THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN OVERCLOCK BEFORE IT OVERHEATS! lol hahahahaha

Caxtus7506133d ago

hehe il be gaming forever i hope :)

Im not saying ages are bad, sorry if it came across like that. I meant that in 10 years from now I will want to be playing on a PS4 or XBox 3 and not on the PS3 or 360.

In 10 years the Psone (95) has gone to 360 (2005) ...it is a long time when you look back. A whole generation in the middle.

Texas GMR6133d ago

10 years is too long for any type of gaming technology. I don't want to be playing the same game system in 10 years.

The only people playing the old systems are the ones who can't afford the new ones, or they're too young to know better. It's a simple as that.

sony fan6133d ago (Edited 6133d ago )

Hey fellow sony fans, I must report our desperation is growing right on target. Hey I know, lets keep pretending and hoping blue-ray makes a difference. We would not want to admit we paid a buncha money to be sony's blue-ray pons, even though a DVD 9 is all we would ever need. Hey lets all forget how much we enjoyed Final Fantasy 3,4,5,6,7,8,9 which all had 4 discs and many other playstation tiltes. And even though we liked the feeling of accomplishment from changing a disc after a lot of playing hours lets say we don't like it now. Hey lets all pretend the xbox will still have problems even though it is totally fixed. And Hey WE BETTER FORGET about MASS EFFECT, you know that game which is the most graphically impressive and longest, most in-depth game this year. It must need 10 dvd 9, OH wait just one? WEll, WE STILL NEED BLUE-RAY. In fact now it is the end of the world if we have to get up once every 30 hours to change a dics. We sony fans fan sure do change are inds pretty quick if sony tells us to, but Hey at least their blu-ray players seeing a huge spike because of us. yay
http://forums.xbox-scene.co...

riskibusiness6133d ago

Both the XBOX 360 and PS3 are outdated or near it at least. I want a new one every 4-5 year minimum. 10 Years is a joke!

JsonHenry6133d ago

why would gamers WANT any system to last longer than 5-6 years with the way technology keeps advancing?

eLiNeS6132d ago

Dille Pickle breath won’t be around for 10 weeks after that interview, what a moron!
M$ did everything right with the Xbox 360 even if there were a few problems here and there, at least there standing by it. The 360 is about gaming first and foremost where the PofS3 is about pushing Blu-Ray movies first and foremost. M$ didn't force you to buy a HD-DVD player, they didn't force you to buy a wireless adapter that would be obsolete in a few years with the ever changing wireless adoptions. They have proven there is plenty of room on the DVD9 for this gen HD games. The controllers have force feedback right out of the box where the PofS3 fanboys at first said they don't want rumble anyway but with rumors that it's coming soon they now can't wait for it to come out and of course you will have to buy all new controllers, LOL. So your $600 box will turn in to an $800 box overnight unless of course you only buy one, LOL, because you’re out of money and can’t afford it. Fony had to drop there so called price just to move a couple PofS3’s out the door and now they’re saying there dropping that skew once there all gone, then they took that back and then they changed their mind again, AHHHHH what is it?!?!?!? Fony is not doing well this gen but there Blu-Ray is, I think, who knows, who cares. Up-scale DVD is here to stay. I don’t want to have to replace the 1200 DVD’s I own just for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. The lineup of games coming to the 360 THIS year is incredible and makes me proud to be playing on an Xbox 360. Once Fony takes there head out of there @$$ and give the gamers what gamers want at the right price, maybe holiday season of 2008, maybe I will pick one up, if they drop their boring HOME project. LOL

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SofaKingReetodded6133d ago

and I get the feeling that they surf these websites for our feedback because it's the exact same thing we've been saying for months about the 360.

dragunrising6133d ago

D1ck. Might as well say your sleeping with Peter Dille if you believe every word that comes out of "any" marketing rep. With the recent price drop I'm thinking of buying a PS3 (Lair anyone?). Still...if you listen to every word that comes from Jack Tretton and Peter Moores salad tossing mouth your foolish. They all talk bs.

Watching_N4G6133d ago

What a Dille hole.

Sony has discontinued the 20GB and 60GB within 8 months of release.

Whatever Dillehead.

VendettaWFT6133d ago

he made one great point which is what Microsoft should really listen too and that is not abandoning your consumers once a new system comes out. I do agree that this guy said some things that he shouldn't have and he was taking some cheap shots, like an idiot. But he's right in one regards, the way microsoft just flat out abandoned the XBOX users by just not making games for them anymore was just complete and utter Bullshi%. Thats one thing Sony does right, surprisingly, is that they offer their consoles up for a long period of time and support them as well.

360RULEZ6133d ago (Edited 6133d ago )

blablablabla whatever

sony losers lie to their own fandroidbases about their own products ( hint hint : fake pricedrop ) ... so it's natural that they would lie about other products proclaiming them as dead.

the only "dead" thing is your pridrop, and the 499$ 60 gb PS3, sony droids.

Xbox360 Elite FTW

@Watching_N4G above : amen brother .. Dillehead .. hahahahah

iballa6133d ago

looking at your picture, i'd say your slightly bias

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia18h ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia16h ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator15h ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

Father__Merrin11h ago

Used to own all these quirky JRPG on ps3 good times. Wish I would have kept them all

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 22h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 6h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 1h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7218h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199213h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 7h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit19h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 1h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 1h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier13h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan5h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 11h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 9h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 7h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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