SCEA President: "We don't buy exclusivity."

In a not-very-disguised jab at Microsoft, SCEA President Jack Tretton told PSM in the latest issue, "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it..."

Note: Though this is a forum post, it is from a GamesRadar editor, increasing its reliability.

[kingofps3]

Bribes in this industry go high, as high as 50 million.

Edit: @ toughluck
Yes! That's exactly how much the XROBOTS bribed Rockstar for the two exclusive GTA4 DLC.

[toughluck]

Yeah, isn't that what Microsoft paid Rockstar for exclusive GTA IV downloadable content?

[Snake_Doctor]

I guess this is just the season of flame wars.
Oh well, I predict high temperatures in the 500s
"XROBOTS" hehe

[Omegasyde]

Hmm well right now in Japan atleast, they need exclusives.

Golden rule of Console Success
Exclusive games sell systems. Games Sell Systems.
(except the Wii, where the Controller sells the system)

But then again 50mil just for DLC? 50 mil could of went towards 3 or more games.

[coolmatrix]

360 users love SLOPPY seconds!!!

Used by more than 50 million gamers, 360 users and MS can enjoy SLOPPY seconds from Devil May Cry 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, etc...

Sloppy seconds....Jump in before going RED with the ring of death...

Hey on your second or third refurbished machine? 360 users LOVE SLOPPY seconds!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Xbox360...Exclusive SLOPPY SECONDS!!

[ArduousAndy]

This sounds like nothing more then someone crying.

MS has a larger install base, which sells more games. Which puts more money in there pocket.

Since its a business world. If company A shows me a nice system for my game and said system only has 3million people. Then company B shows me a nice system with 10 million people on it and then goes " here have some cash we want your game"

I would be heck ya ill get you a game right now.

You people cry foul as if this NEVER happened before.

Almost ALL great works of art from paintings to statues have been made because someone with money said to make it for them. Its not different here.

And Jack should shut up and start going to companies "heres some money make us a game"

because no matter HOW power the system is. That power means crap if theres no games on it.

[kabala]

Back when the PS1 was realesed Sony paid for a 6 month exclusive for Mortal Kombat 3 then when Tomb Raider was finished for the Sega Saturn first the paid for it to come out first for the PS1. Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, Wipeout and more all paid for!

[JokesOnYou]

why pay for exclusives that will cost a arm & leg to make on our console but will not sale enough copies to make a profit, yeah we know we need more 3rd party exclusives which is why the PS2 was so successful but this time around our focus is the poo-ray format trojan horse and we need gamers to buy more movies than games which is why our GPU is an outdated pos. once again sony kids=

JOY

[FreeMonk]

As much as Sony doesn't like to bribe third party for it's titles, they should really change there stance a little if they want to guarantee a jump on MS!

Yes, MS spent $50mil on GTA4 exclusive online content, but they will get there cash back and more on that investment after they sell more copies of GTA4 on X360, plus the price of the exclusive content. Personally, I'd go for the platform that offer more content for there buck, and that's why MS have secured this exclusive!

Exclusives is exactly WHY the PS2 did so well. Exclusive games like Metal Gear, Final Fantasy (which lucky for Sony, they still have exclusive for PS3), Tekken, Devil May Cry plus many many other exclusive third-party titles.

The biggest title for the Sony PS2 for the States and European market was GTA, and Sony messed up big time when they lost the exclusive rights for it for the PS3.

Rockstar wanted to keep it's exclusive rights with Sony, but no word came from Ken Kutaragi, which left SCEA execs without any authoity to sign GTA up! This was documented in a feature just this week, which was on this site. Take a look!

At the end of the day, being ruthless makes you money in business, and that what is MS is doing. Sitting back and hoping it all comes to you and works in your favour, which Sony seems to be doing, can be very dangerous.

The only bad side at the moment is the bad failure rate of the X360's (I've had 2 repairs!!), which could play into Sony's hands, but with the X360 being a much cheaper console, offering the same big titles that were once exclusive titles on the PS3, will sway people into buying MS console due to the price!

[Kaneda]

"The biggest title for the Sony PS2 for the States and European market was GTA, and Sony messed up big time when they lost the exclusive rights for it for the PS3."

GTA was never exclusived for PS2...it was port to xbox way later...

Sony relies more on their 1st party games to sell console... but don't know if it works anymore... Since games take longer to make for next-gen with all the details... they need games... not delay...

[uxo22]

BRIBE? BRIBE? No, it's called business, and sometimes paying for exclusives is the cost of doing business. Let me guess, ATT "Bribed" Apple to carry the iphone right? I'm sure Apple out of the kindness of their hearts decided to let ATT carry the iphone because the like their logo. This guy sounds like a big A$$ baby crying foul because he's not talented enough to play with the big boys. Please!

Then, look at the Fanboys, jump right in an use this guys exact words in their comments, just like a bunch of lemmings. Pathetic! (Sony relies too much on loyality, they just keep stringing us along while linning their pockets. And giving NOTHING in return!) One other thing, there is no way SONY has not paid ANY company for exclusivity, that's just another of many shameless lies. I'm tired of using my PS3 to decorate my entertainment center. Maybe those b@st@rds SHOULD pay for exclusives so we can get some games around here.

I apologize, this crap is starting to annoy me, sony is sitting on their A$$es raking in money and doing little to nothing for the PS3 owners. Delay, Delay, Delay, cancel, lost exculsive, etc. When will it stop. And their answer to it all is, "we don't bribe" STFU!

Before you all start to disagree, and bash me, just think about it. Sony has had plenty of time to line games up, and get game out there. The PS3 has been out for less than a year, but it's been in development for many years. HEY SONY! How about throwing us a bone, and not the bone you've been sticking in our @$$es!

[ALI G]

"shony"

[smart_head]

Well said, Jack.

[coolmatrix]

Xbox360 had a year head start: Total sales around 10 million with about 30% failure rate give or take. Despite the hottest title Gears of War only 2 million copies or about 20% of 360 users care to purchase the title. ALARMING!!!

MS hopes that POACHING once PS2 exclusives would lead to more 360 consoles sold. NEVER HAPPENED, NEVER WILL! MS doesn't understand PS owners. We don't WANT A 360 - EVER!!!

PLus they are running out of successful PS2 exclusives to POACH.

What will happen then? What would happen if those once PS2 exclusives dont sell as much as Gears of War 2 million copies? Scary thought. MONEY DOWN the drain.

PS3 has already sold 5 million units worldwide and it still doesnt have a killer app yet although Resistance sold 2 million copies. That means almost 50% of PS3 owners bought Resistance compared to about 20% of all 360 owners for Gears of War.

Once PS3 gets rolling with its titles its game over.

The number dont lie. PS3 sold 5 million units averaging about $599 with NO KILLER APPS.

I would be scared if I was MS or Nintendo.

Wii only sells because of Wii Sports. No other new users will play beyond Wii Sports. The numbers dont lie. Gamers will buy games on Wii but new users will go no further than Wii Sports.

Dont believe me ask any friend or family member to play anything beyond Wii Sports.

PS3 has superior tech and superior build. PS3 wins HANDS DOWN.

Thats why Sony is not gonna waste their cash on once PS2 exclusives.

MS on the other hand is desperate. JUST LIKE POACHERS IN AFRICA...desperate.

But once you POACH there comes a DAY when NO MORE TO POACH and you roll over and DIE!

PS owners dont want a 360 and NEVER will no matter what you POACH MS!!

[caffman]

So
You say that NO ps2 owners want a 360?
Well I know 40 for a start who own both and don't want a PS3

[CyberSentinel]

"We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development."

In other words....we don't care about games anymore, we only care about blu-ray.

Blind Lemmings, The Playstation Reign Is Over.

[Violater]

Show me the GAMES.
before the rabit ps3 fanboy vampire in me eats your soul.
Anyway with that said lol
It's just plain economics, with the amount of money invested in their own studios for exclusives along with the not so High number of ps3 sales, its just plain not work shelling out millions for exclusives at this point.
But Jack I bloody hope you weren't referring to MGS4 or this may come back to haunt you like so many other things said.

I'll say it again only Phil should be allowed to speak

[ShiftyLookingCow]

good comment, I know you still love your PS3 but at least you think, Microsoft crapped on console reliability and Sony on third party support, they would do better to accept reality

[UJUSTLOSTONE]

I'm feelin you man

[kspraydad]

If Sony goes out and buys a developer are they not, de facto, buying exclusivity?
It might be a 'different' way to do it but it amounts to the same thing.

"We don't 'fund' development'...

Well...if they have teams of Sony developers on call to assist third party developers understand the Cell...you are funding the development. Not with cash but again it amounts to the same thing.

I'm not a Sony basher generally (in fact there are those here that call me a Sony fanboy ???) but the spin on this is getting me dizzy.

[Strange]

That, and handing out cash to existing developers, are VERY different

[XxZxX]

support developers is very different from buying developer. Sony/Mircrosft/Nintendo will have to support their own SDK. You have to support the developement you launched. You think developers are going to just read books and figure out their own?.. how is that the same with I pay you $50 million to develope content.

[crippler666]

Sorry but Sony do not play that card too often, Sony own a big stake in Square Enix and yet still Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games have been released on other consoles. Nintendo and Microsoft have had games released by Square Enix.

I know they have bought shares in other companies and it has not stopped developement for other systems.

[Schmitty07]

They lose all the exclusives.

[Asuka]

I guess if MS has the money, why not buy exclusive rights? Then again, it is a bit greedy ^_^'

[Captain Tuttle]

It's business and Microsoft is good at it. Sony can talk about taking the high road all they want but if they don't get some amazing exclusives fast they won't catch up. It's like they're writing a book on how to lose market share.

[Kratosnake]

"mircosoft is good at it"

sure...its not like microsoft launched a system that failed (Xbox)... or bet their money on a dvd-format (HD-DVD) that is doomed to failure. They're reeeaaaal good at business.

look, both parties gotta say what they gotta say to play this game all the way. It's how it works and to be honest, both microsoft and sony are doing a crappy job this time around. And the consumer (beside the fanboys of both parties) are pretty upset

[Pain70]

did you happen to see the "good at it" quarterly report from MS? http://www.microsoft.com/ms...

how about Sony's?
http://www.twice.com/articl...

MS IS good at it!!

[PS360WII]

I think they may want to change that tune. Yes they have the biggest 1st party development team, but with 360 as the main competition for the PS3 and MS does buy exclusive titles I think you need to fight fire with fire right?

[Premonition]

Some strong words right there, and Sony doesnt buy as many studios as Microsoft (message towards "kspraydad"). And hes right about Nintendo I mean half their 1st party games has to do with the same old Mario, or Zelda. Not much Zelda since that isnt rehashed so many times like Mario.

[Effects Guardian]

Really Jack ? Running your mouth again ? This is how business works. Whoever can get _ before _ with _ dollars.

Funny how he's saying this when Sony used to do this strategy for the PS2. Microsoft's Xbox 360 is the PS2 of this gen.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Link or false accusation.

Nevermind I saw your avatar.

[THAMMER1]

You should.

[TheMART-sucksdick]

Thats all i have to say, and yes people i do have a 360.

Edit: Beating the crap out of sony???? Are they??? Really??? And can you answer this, Do sony fanboys care??? NO. Becuase its allways the xbox fanboys that get angry and aggressive. While the sony fans live with losing exclusives and having most of the Web take the piss out of the PS3. Leave your stupid opinion for the Playground

Watch this video, this guy has a point.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Captain Tuttle]

They're also beating the crap out of Sony.

Edit: G-Reddy, Chill out man...it's just a console. Why do you guys take it so personally?

[Charlie2688]

OUCH!!!!!!!! that was a horrible punch in the face to MS :?

[scarlett_rg]

If by "horrible punch" you mean "cheap shot"... then yes, I agree. In all honesty though, a comment like that makes Sony look far worse than it makes MS look.

[ALI G]

microsoft already had many punched under and over the built
1)if it was not for xbox 1 , PS2 WILL sold over 150 million unit
2)all the exclusive 360 games
3)all the exculsive ps3 games that become multi-platform
4)supporting HD-DVD which stopped blue-ray from ending the format war, even though microsoft do not belive that any of them will be around by end of this genration

[Syko]

"We are in no position to afford exclusivity"

Seriously, This from the company that was buying developers at a rapid rate. Like kspraydad said, It is just a different way of doing it. But the end result is the same.

I think a lot of the big-wigs at Sony are having trouble being on the bottom looking up. I'm sure a lot of these guys have only known the good times, and are now experiencing what it's like on the other side of the fence.

[nextgengaming18]

2 years ago they made a 4.8 billion dollar transaction to buy out MGM studios. I think they can spend a measly 50 million $'s for downloadable content. Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are multi billion dollar companies. Microsoft, and sony are in the 100 billion dollars in assests.

I get 2 disagrees for stating facts.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

wow so its bribing huh. f'you hypocrite, hopefully Sony doesnt think like this guy

[Vojkan]

Well you can't blame Microsoft for doing what they do. Sony had 7 years ahead of them in this industry, so they have to catch up. But on the other hand i respect what Sony is doing.

[_insane_cobra]

You don't buy exclusivity momentarily because you can't afford it. You do, however, fund development - not only of games, but also of engines as I'm sure Epic could testify.

[razer]

Have fun "earning" your exclusives why I'm playing them on the 360 Jack! I'm sure if you were to look at some of these exclusives, especially for the PS3 you will find some subsidizing to the developers. I know if I was a dev house and making a great game and Sony wanted it exclusively I would expect some compensation since the fanbase is not that large and would affect my bottom line.

This comes off more as someone who's a little bitter...

MS is the youngest pup in this very competitive market I can't really knock them for doing whatever it takes to get a foot hold in it.

[toughNAME]

but this isnt the fukin playground...so grow up Jack

[ash_divine]

I agree, while MS is a dirty business, thats the way the game works

[Maddens Raiders]

SNE will definitely be "earning" their exclusives now, because of the market share damage MS has done. I can tell you from experience that being the top dog for a while, then to lose that status (in this generation's console)seemingly overnight is a tough road to walk. Hopefully this humble pie that SNE is eating right now will compel them to whip up that ol SNE mojo that they used to wield so deftly. We'll see. I would be sending leflets and flyers to every current PS2 owner in the world right now if I was SNE. That's where the meat is.

cheers

[Dick Jones]

We don't need to do anything, We're **** ING SONY, We've earned IT.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Asuka]

Sony will still get great games and exclusives, there is no doubt about that. They do have the largest in-house development group. But still.......the only thing that remains is the 'wait'. How long are people willing to wait? I'm willing to wait personally.

[Elginer]

So is the new Sony slogan, "Wait Beyond"? People can only wait so long before they find another place to play games.

[Silver360]

was it aimed at MS funding Gears of War? If so MS needs to fund a hell of a lot of developers. Game may have been short for some but it was pretty and fun and sold over 5 million copies. So taking at jab there is just dumb. I know Sony Exec's are feeling the heat but sometime you have to watch what you say. I am sure he spoke his true feelings there, but the truth is Sony is funding Heavenly Sword so he needs to shut up. I am really getting tired of both sides of this console war talking out their butts. Just make some good games and STFU (SONY, MS and NINTENDO. Because in the end everyone one of you corporate mouth pieces is making a fortune off of the backs of gamers all all you do is try to set gamers against each other.

[funkysolo]

The MGS4 game engine was built for the cell to optimize the game, if they were to port the game to 360 they would basically have to start from scratch since the game was never design as a multiplatform engine. Being that the games is almost finish, it would be a good year before we see it on the 360 at the earliest. Bubbles Plz

[Asuka]

only time will tell, as long as i get to play MGS4 regardless of platform, i'll be one happy gamer!!! (don't beg for bubbles, it just seems so weak)

[ben hates you]

me, i don't care how they get it i'll play it, i'm not worried about it, and i think this is only attacking the uncomfirmed report that microsoft paid take two 50million for exclusive content,

is sony trying to say microsoft also bought mercinaries II, devil may cry, ect. ?

be nice we're all allowed our opinion

[THAMMER1]

He should have just said they like getting railroaded.

MOVE B!T(#!!!! Get out the way!!!! Get out the way B!T(#!!!! Get out the way!!!! ala LUDACRIS

[MoonDust]

:D

[hikikimori]

Typical MicroSoft. Just throw money at the problem/competition.
I think Sony prefer innovation, which for the most part you never see on a MS console game. So MS want to 'buy' out all the biggest third party games that once were for Sony.
This may well kick Sony's ass in the short term, but I still say leave the console gaming business to the professionals.
Not a software company.

[rowdy 1]

I still think they will come up short in the long run. Sony has enough exclusives that are coming out that will sale consoles, especially in Japan once the get the ball rolling on the FF series, and the Hs golf bundle. It's a comment he made based on something that he knows is being done, Its not only done by MS, Sony does it as well. It's business no more to it than that.

[Amplifier]

Sony started from SCRATCH and didn't initially want in the business to begin with...but Ken helped change their minds.

Folks SONY made this industry as big as it is today whether you admit it or not the TWO MOST successful WORLDWIDE consoles EVER is the PSone and PS2, they have every right to say what was said.

This gen is NOT over...Sony hasn't lost ANYTHING!

I swear, MS strolls in the scene and you ACT like they are a GODSEND to the biz when in fact they are nickel and diming us, also providing a lackluster POS hardware yet you PEOPLE eat it up like candy.

Sony brings us new IPs always, they made catalysts(PSone and PS2) for those franchises that you LOVE so much FAMOUS.

Ignorant little boy gamers know nothing about Sony and what they stand for.

@mp

Disagreers - What's wrong can't take the truth, does it make you upset? No more bubbles to take away from me...so you disagree till your hearts content it doesn't mean a flipping thing...truth will still be in your face

E3 is coming soon, there's ALWAYS a calm before the storm, believe that Sony is going to "reign" down on both companies like a bad day in April

[toughNAME]

PSone and PS2 kicked ass

sony is a pioneer in the gaming industry

....so dont you think the PS3 wud ATLEAST be in the running? theres very little competition from them and with the wii/360 fall lineup...(ps3 gets throat slit sound)

PS3 has alot of great games coming in their first year....when all is said and done PS3 first year games will probably be better than 360 first year games

but PS3 is a year behind...they have to beat MS and then some

and i dont know if Jack Tretton will be able to pull that off...considering his b!tchy lil comments

Funkysolo (below)
..that might be one of the worst excuses iv ever heard....and i have heard A LOT of sony fanboy excuses

[DrPirate]

Well said, well said. Bubbles for you.

Very true.

[ALI G]

in this bussines industery you can not live in what you have done in the past. splling mistakes D:

[caffman]

oh my god..............

[funkysolo]

There hasn't been much info of eight days but it's suppose to be like a GTA type game with better graphics and physics. you can see a video at gametrailers.com and it looks awsome by far one of the best looking games and it's in realtime. Look at the developer presentation all I can say is WOW!!!

[hikikimori]

Nah, eight days is more 'on the rails'. And not as tongue in cheek as GTA. I hope eight days does it's own thing, because if it try's to be GTA clone, it will be $h!t. Just like that horrible Saints Row crap for the 360.

[darx]

You'll be playin Saints Row when it hits the PS3, don't deny it.

[XbugPosse]

If this is true, then I would be stunned that Epic is doing a PS3 exclusive for free.

[Why o why]

epic dont seem to be greedy. They allegedly didn't want to sell the extra maps for gears but ms weren't having none of it. Plus they KNOW their stuff will sell because they are really good at what they do. Money or return is the point but not the only point (to some).

[Rybnik]

The way 1up puts it "Epic is cashing Sony's checks these days" I think Sony is funding the unannounced Epic PS3 exclusive, dude..

[retro]

that wanted to pay 1.200 bucks for every unsold PS3 on a shelf?

Bold words, really.

[Silverwolf]

Couldn't have said it any better! lol........

[XxZxX]

exclusive come to the most consoles sales. Right now 360 and PS3 doesn't earn it. Their sales sux. You f**ker can argue how ten million 360 sales but wasn't it stalement for a damn long time, I wouldnt brag about that if i were you. Right now the only consoles that actually earn it is Wii. PS3?? like Jack said, they have to work harder.

[Marceles]

lol...I picture this everytime they get a new exclusive

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[TheXgamerLive]

Show me where it say's they paid that much, also why would they need to, their the only ones with the install base to have incredible sales, and there the only opne w/a real online that truly supports actual and real DLC.

Did MS pay something, possibly or maybe they prommised the sales that their looking for.

[kevoncox]

haven't they learned that they arrogrance is what is destroying them. Sony isn't Nintendo. They hae no history. I do believe reading that Assasin Creed was in negotiation with Sony to become and exclusive.
You ahve to help developers. Don't look at it as bribing. These developers need help with the ever increasing cost of game production. As gamers, shouldn't we only care that Ms is allowing us to play the best version of the game possible? What if Epic couldn't afford to spends as much time on the online version of Gears. Don't we as gamers loose from this. Yet some of you cheer sony for "taking the high road"

[MK_Red]

Wether we want to buy something in life or not, there is always a price we have to pay. Sony wanted rumble, payed more than $100 million for it so why not for other things?

[MannyHarlem141]

Sony is hot, forget about it... 50 comments in under 45 mins. Everyone wants a PS3, whether ostensibly or subversively.. just a matter of time!

[kevoncox]

Ms did what no one thought they could.
1) They fought past the most sucessful console of all time(ps2).
2) They basically knew JPN was going to be a slow, hard process.
3) They had major supply problems at luanch.

Consider for a second that JPN liked the 360 as much as america of Europe.

The 10 million sold( which was pasted 2 months ago) would actually be around 14 million now. I know it's hard to believe but Ms is sitting preety with the 360. Their biggest problem is RROD.

[cartman313]

1. PS2 destroyed Xbox. They didn't fight past it, they ran off scared. They don't even support it anymore.

2. They were also right. Japanese have quality issues. If they see it breaking they won't buy it.

3. From what I hear, they have more than supply problems. I won't buy one until I know for a fact they fixed the issue. Some reason I doubt they ever will. I wish they would, I would really love to check out Gears.

For the 360 to ever be liked by Japanese, they need to make a more reliable product.

360 is in a good spot? Is it really? When the holidays roll around, I would love for you to come back here and read your comments.

[caffman]

Wasn't the PS3 out LAST christmas in the states?

[Fan Tastic]

Start buying exlusivity
start funding development (stupid not to)
Bribe the developers.
MS bribes Capcom for Lost Planet as well as other devs, get with it Sony.

MS is f'n up big on console reliability, Sony can capitilize on this by bringing the games. Time to execute instead of talk, talk is cheap.

[MoonDust]

"What did the hand say to the face?"
Edit: LOL relax people it was a joke.

[PS360WII]

lol that was an awesome vid!

[power of Green]

Its all over the net...

#29 sence when did 8 days become PS3 exclusive with out a doubt?( was it announced?).

[hikikimori]

It's a 1st party SCE game, thats why you retard.

[Violater]

Eight Days
Published by: Sony Computer Entertainment
Developed by: SCE Studios London
Genre: Action

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/...

[TaylorB]

There's nothing wrong with funding third-party exclusives, and there's definitely nothing wrong with earning them either. From a financial and business standpoint, you can't keep paying for exclusives over time; the investment continues growing, the benefits more inconclusive, and the total amount spent? Enormous.

From a long term business perspective, buying exclusives for your system over time probably isn't going to turn out to be a wise decision. But in the short term, a few exclusive titles can help even out the competition, or help ease a slump, or tilt the scales in an important battle, (Christmas 07' and 08' will be very important). I don't think the 50 million agreement with Rockstar was a good idea. They could have just as easily thrown 50 million at three exclusive (preferably non-FPS) titles for an important business/sales period. But I digress.

I wish I had access to the complete interview. A few chopped up lines doesn't really build a good context for what he might have meant. But if he was trying to polarize the subject of "buying third party exclusives" into "bad" then I would have to disagree Tretton.

[benny o klaatt]

i might be right, but not sure, but hasnt a next gen console always sold more than a previous gen console in the past. its not a flame or dig at sony or microsoft, sales always sky rocket when a price cut turns up, because quite frankly 11 million or whatever for the 360 AND 3.5 million or whatever for the ps3 aint like huge huge sellers at the moment.

Remember that the ps3 came late to the party. do you think that was truly a bad idea? i certainly dont, the previous gen was selling like crazy and software devolpment was through out the roof. i bet profits were ps2>360 each month and still is to this day. makes excellent business sense to me. So now microsoft has a headstart and a larger install base, they were the underdog last season and in some ways they still are. both machines are gonna be massively popular, sony will rise when killer apps and price cuts come, and yet so will microsoft its inevitable, just look how passionate people are about their systems now, and here.

so when both machines drop in price, huge sales will rise, yeah? and whats the diffence of about 7 million machines now, when were looking at an audience which will massively increase year in year out. more people can afford them, gaming becoming more acceptable and wide spread, even my mother has a ds and shes coming up to 70, bless her lol

buying exclusives is important, of course it is. its important to us gamers, since we get to experience them, i'm sure if sony had exclusive rights to crackdown, gears, lost planet, gta4 and oblivion etc, you'd be proper happy with yourself as would sony. now when lair, heavenly sword, mgs4 etc start coming out you'll really start to see your dividends no doubt.

games, truly brilliant games of amazing graphics ang gameplay will start appearing for both formats both competing for the massive potential audience out there.

its gonna be a sweet time

or am i talking gibberish??

[Sphinx]

One reason why many consumers are saying, "We don't buy PS3."

[TheMART]

The can't buy because they don't have the MONEY

MS has 50 billion in the bank. And bit by bit they steal the most important games.

It doesn't matter Sony if you earned it in the past. Its about here and now. Loosing stuff is bad either way you twist it. If you've 'earned' it or if you buy it. Either way you get the stuff

@ hikikimori (below)

Are you stupid or what.

EVERY commercial company wants your money. Including Sony. They are not giving the money away dude.

You are paying 50% more calculated from the 360's price point (twisted that around... I am paying 33% less calculated on the PS3's price) for a gaming experience that's less then mine. And you give Sony money for pushing BluRay.

Really. That MS has money and Sony hasn't means Sony is bad in making good businessmodels. The model for the PS3 is a wrong one for sure.

If you don't earn money, you can't spend

@ Arkham (below)

Thanks, I had the PS3 price set on 100%. In that case 200 is 33%, paying less for 360 owners. Wrote it down to fast you're right on that one

[hikikimori]

No wonder they have 50 bill. Between windows monopoly and all the fools like YOU that PAY for online, and buy cheap hardware, Bill is laughing all the way to the bank.
Seriously though,who cares what a suit says on a blog? They still have tons of NEW ip's in development.

[Arkham]

"You are paying 33% more for a gaming experience that's less then mine."

I wouldn't be throwing that "33%" number around too much anymore. It's too fresh in people's minds, however inaccurate it may be.

_____
edit: -1 bubble? Figures. Either it was this post or the other equally innocuous post, but either way you guys are a riot.

edit2: I think you may have misunderstood the "33%" comment, but considering your track-record with "120fps" and "10M Sold!" et al, I'm not surprised.

[Bill Gates]

WOW..M$ must be gasping for air after that punch to the gut..haha

[Realness]

Thats Sonys way of saying "we lost games for our fans". So when I'm playing GTA 4.1 & 4.2 you can say Sony is smarter for not paying.

[power of Green]

This will not help Sony's image, you have a world class company like MS thats just doing business and a rabid envyous company attacking wanting success with out earning it(pedigree attatude will be their undoing).

EDIT Below: You're a prime example of what i was talking about. Sony thinks the crown should be handed to them in a bussiness and now wants to play fair when they never have. You better take your rabid ass out of here with that jive. lol

((((((((#61)))))))) Your supposed 110 million PS2/1 owners are not Hardcore Sony die hards. The bulk of that fanbase are trend casual consumers not waiting for PS3 specificlly but for a price cut on any cutting edge console with games that comes their way.

By your logic saying they'll all upgrade to PS3 is like hearing a Nintendo fanboy say in the last generation PS2 will never out do the gamecube in the long run because Nintendo has millions apon millions of past/present fans in a loosely theorized mega base from another generation altogether. lol

MS not saying anything and Sony possibly hearing things like G4 E3 coverage has one full day with MS and both PS3 and the Wii will share the second day of coverage might have these guys spooked thus the sh*t talking Sony is not in good shape despite what fanatics will have you believe.

[Fan Tastic]

please stick to the facts next time you stupid sheep of MS.

[Odion]

1. MS makes around 5 billion in profits per quarter, and thats after buying other companies for 1.2 billion but thats besides the point.

Real

1. Most people in the game industry have figured that MS gave Take Two the 50 million for 2 reason. The first was for the episodic content, the other was a silent gesture that if/when Take Two goes up for Sale MS is ready and willing to buy them up. E.g. (They get Rockstar, 2K and a bunch of others)

2. Sony is really not that inovative, they're only claim to fame is using dvd's for their system. Nintendo was the first to have an anolog stick, Sega was the first to use CD's and 3D graphics, MS was the first to fully intergrate an Online system into their console. Like honestly what are you talking about?

3. Whats worse buying games but letting the studio stay independent or buying the studio?

[Why o why]

playstation EYE, Guitar, Buzz controller, 8 button pad (10 if analogs are included) your selective memory doesn't supprise me though

[CaliGamer]

Good comment. I think that he is right, in a sense because each company has their own approach. The only way to see if this strategy pays off is in the long run. As the video game industry continues to grown exponentially, it might become less about earning an exclusive and more about the bottom line, which is very sad because you lose something with an art form such as this.

[progx]

Yeah, and it shows...jack needs to shut the f*ck up. Sony's arrogance is astounding.

[Monchichi025]

Listen to the cry baby cry!!! This from the company that played it EXTREMELY dirty to kill our beloved Sega Dreamcast! Now that it is being done to them by a bigger bully on the block it's not fair it's not fair right?????

SONY DESERVES EVERYTHING THEY ARE GETTING!!!

Bottom line is as gamers, we want games! MS is doing whatever possible to get those for us and that is why they our kicking Sony's ass right now!

[Marceles]

"Microsoft is too dependent on the third-party community, and Nintendo is too depended on first-party."

I'm sure Sony is going to do a good job at both parties, but they are going to do...as of later. Now the press and others are enjoying this state of vulnerability Sony has..the sooner they get the good games out that prove the PS3's future status, the better. As of right now, Sony needs to depend on both parties And not good first party games that come out once every 3 months or a bunch of 3rd party ported games and exclusives that are either average, or below average than the competition..:(

[riqued]

Sony gives the developers freedom, sometime it can be bad, but that is the reason why there are so many different and interesting titles in the PS and PS2 (soon PS3 =D)

[Monchichi025]

Funny how he cries now! LMAO

You think we forgot how your Sony's dirty business model was the reason it killed the beloved Sega Dreamcast. But shoes on the other foot now Jack! You are no longer the biggest bully on the block, and all you can do now is cry about it!

PAYBACK IS A BIATCH!!!!!!!!!!

In response to the comment below: What did they do to the Dreamcast???? Boy, you need to read up on your videogame histore. Sony pretty much bullyied sega out the market with dirty tactics. Sony used there power to force developers such as EA and other to forgo the Dreamcast in order to work with them. Sony also forced retailers to remove all Sega products from exclusive spots in order for them to get Sony products. Sony was as dirty as they can get. I reccomend you all find people do some research on the topic because it is pretty fascinating.

[Marceles]

What did they do to kill Dreamcast? All they did was add a DVD player. Dreamcast got alot of ported games from the Playstation 1 with better graphics as well as some cool exclusives. Sega just...I don't know what was going on with them. But I liked the Dreamcast

[the_round_peg]

Talk about sore loser. Geez.

[UJUSTLOSTONE]

I understand what Jack is trying to get at. But maybe at this point, in the games race it wouldn't hurt to throw a few extra dollars in Final Fantasy, and MGS4 wallets. you know for **ahem ahem** development costs.

I don't want any bragging about what we do, versus what they do until these game drop, then you can talk sh*t. Untill then Sony, shut your mouth and prove who is boss with actions, i.e. SOFTWARE.

I like you Sony, I really do, but your in no position to start taking jabs at anyone but yourselves.

Keep working on those beautiful games and those will be "JABS" enuff for the competition.

[LeShin]

I agree with your last statement. I think they should just let the games speak for themselves like the PS2 did rather than get into political spin arguments.

I've got a feeling that Jack among others are just trying to come out with fighting words and retaliate as everyone seems to be putting them down

[LeShin]

Hmmm...I'm not really fussed yet, why? Because when you say "MS are buying exclusives" what did they actually get? DMC4 will be on BOTH consoles as is GTA4. Okay, MS get "exclusive" extra content, but so what? Unless you have a "killer-app" which is ONLY on your system, then I think you can afford to boast. If GTA4 was coming out only on the Xbox360, then Sony would have had a BIG problem. The only exclusive game on the Xbox coming out which I think will be such a game is Bioshock. That game looks amazing and looks really imaginative! Luckily I've got a PC that should be able to run it. Don't get me wrong, if I were Sony I would pay everything I could for MGS4 and FF13 if there was any chance it would head to another system, as they will be "killer-apps"(though I think it will be VERY unlikely that FF13 will be on anything but the PS3 if you believe what some of the devs have recently said)but other than those two games, that would be it.

The only games that have been completely lost to Sony are Ace Combat 6 and Fatal Inertia. There are probably a couple more, I just can't think of them right now(to be honest, I'm a bit gutted about Ace Combat as I loved that series, but I'll guess I'll mourn while playing Warhawk :))

I do like the strategy of bringing out more quality first party games like Heavenly Sword, Drakes Fortune and Lair as they would know better than anyone how to get the most out of their hardware and they need games which sets the system apart from competitors and to justify it's price. Also, it leads the way for third party developers to also see what its capable of. I can't wait for that Team ICO game waiting in the wings.

Will the PS3 go the way of the Dreamcast? Not a chance in hell lol As long as there's people who like playing a lot of rpgs/jrpgs and a wide range of different genres that have come out in the PS2's life, I think the PS3 is safe.....as long as Sony doesn't get too arrogant and learns from it's recent past mistakes.

[Nicosia]

Greatest. Comment. EVER!.

What ya said about the dreamcast thing, your right it will not fade away. Sony has a brand that is wel respected to even NON-gamers, and there still will be some people that will prefer it.

If i could have gone back and told sony to do at the beginning was: release HOME and Little Big Planet, make sure there will be something new and fresh. I think it would have been better ground for them.

[CrazzyMan]

but sony earned trust with over 100 mln. users of psOne and PS2.

anyway, 1 week left and we will see. =))

[caffman]

to the people with burnt out lasers on the PS2.
Oh and how many of that 100 million have laptops (cough!batteries.splutter)

[BlackIceJoe]

This is where I think Sony needs help on. Believe it or not but exclusive's sell systems. As good as first party is you need more then that to win in a console war. You need the third party members games just as much as you need the first one's. So Sony needs to get its act together and show that they care about people that will go out and buy the PS3.

[Adriokor]

Pretty arrogant if you ask me.

[riqued]

Why is he arrogant, does he buy exclusive content? does he pay 3rd party developers?

[the_round_peg]

He sounds like a sore loser. Geez.

The battle is not over yet. He could have at least shown some style.

It's a BUSINESS. He should stop boo-hoo and whining about it. If he couldn't take the heat, then he better get out of the kitchen now because it's only gonna get dirtier as the war heats up.

If he had to take jabs at Microsoft, he could have at least done it with some class and humor, like how Microsoft sent a Xbox 360-branded boat to crash Sony's PS3 launch party in Paris with the big sign (in French): "You guys are late! Welcome to the party!!!" Now that's funny. Even the French TV reporters on the scene couldn't stop laughing hard as they saw the Xbox 360 boat pass by.

[aiphanes]

They will go PS3 when the price of the console drops to $299 or $399 and when the bad ass games come out this fall and next year.

The xbox 360 will never get to 115 million...they might get to 30 million if and only if microsoft can keep the xbox 360 going for 5 years...we are almost going to go into the third year! Its been almost 2 years and all they have sold is 10 million units???? This is sorry compared to the Wii which has sold over 6 million in 7 months!

Now the Wii will not get to 115 million also...there is only so much devs can do with a wii...the Wii will become the Wii 2 in about 2 more years. Nintendo is going to have to embrace the HD age and even the harddrive age sometime soon. How can you have an online infrastructure and downloadable content when you have no harddrive? People have already filled up there wii with VC games...and is nitendo going to do Wiiware?

Sony will get most of those PS2 owners at least half of them in the next 2 to 3 years.

[the_round_peg]

Hm. I got a PS2 but was never loyal to Sony or any company. (Why should I? It's not like Sony pays me money to stay loyal. Either Sony gives me lots of good games at a price lower than its competitor's, or I'll go to someone else. That's how the competition works.)

Heck, if PS3 is overpriced and Sony is acting like a prick when people tell Sony the thing is too expensive, then Sony can expect some PS2 owners (like me) to say, "you know, you're not the only guy in town who's selling a console... you can kiss my arse... see you around, BUH BYE!"

[Nervsys]

PS1 -> PS2 -> PS3 Preorder -> completely p**sed european -> cancelled preorder -> proud 360 owner.

[Realness]

Why is it bribing? They bought it. MS is not hiding the fact that they paid for games. When GTA 5 is only on Xbox, Sony will pay or lose it. If MS paid 50 million just for extra content, think what they will pay for the whole game. Is MS wrong for trying to get the fans the best games?

[Pika-pie]

Ive said it 100 times before..

MS dont care about customers, or gaming. The only thing they are bothered about is thrashing the competition. MS stratagy is allways the same 'Throw cash at companies and watch them dance'.

I know competition is good, but the competition should be 'who can dev the greatest system seller game' not who can buy it. Sony and Nintendo practice this but Microsofts dirty stratergies do not lead to better games.

[tudors]

"38 - Ohh baby..
Sony is hot, forget about it... 50 comments in under 45 mins. Everyone wants a PS3, whether ostensibly or subversively.. just a matter of time!"

I don't want one.

[Odion]

no they will go where the games are just like when everyone left Nintendo and Sega for Sony.

We also don't have updated sales numbers for the 360 since Jan.

[GodofPeace]

WOW fanboys aka idiots need to grow up and look at your dumb comments. You all act like you could read the people's mind and everyone's other minds.

[Odion]

was that towards me?

[Rhezin]

ya you might "earn" it Sony, but these days money goes a long way and Microsoft is smart that way because they have enough money to get more games exclusive to their console.

[Nicosia]

You know why you get exclusives? because you have to cater to the dev. And lets make it clear, the reason ps2 got so many excl. was the fact is had a huge installbase. Thats means the devs get there game to a wider audience.

Lets peel off somethings he said:

We don't fund development = Well that has to be the dumbest thing you could say. Not help devs, yeah with all the fuss about porogramming being hard... give the devs some hands en backbone.
bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform = Start bribing, that means there gonna make games for the cell and blue-ray.

And the comment about microsoft being ''to much 3rd party'' is kinda sad, atleast they care about the games they and the consumer wants.The Wii comment was right though. And lets be real, we all want the ps3 first party games.

[the_round_peg]

Condition A = Microsoft is paying for and buying exclusivity

Condition B = Sony is NOT willing to pay for and buy exclusivity

Conditions A + Condition B = Microsoft to get more 3rd-party exclusives = Sony to lose more 3rd-party exclusives

That's the inevitable logical outcome

Sony, you do get what you pay for.

I sense a disturbance in the Force.

[omansteveo]

Of course they do i.e.MGS4 after 3 Kojima clearly stated he didnt want to do anymore im pretty sure they dropped a boat-load of cash on his door step so he'd rethink that.

On a serious note i think hs statement is somewhat true i mean Sony believes their first-party portfolio is good enough to carry them through this generation. Even if they struggle with exclusives they technically dont need it bc in the back of their minds they know that Blu-ray movie sales will make up for it, so they dont need AAA titles from 3rd parties as long as they have descent 1st party

[BIadestarX]

This is Sony's way of telling their fanboys we are going to continue to bleed all exclusive 3rd party games.

All of the sudden Sony want to sound as if Paying for exclusive content is evil and should not be done. Is because it's bad for a company like Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony to fun a game project like Gears of war to make sure it takes advantage of the hardware and because it make business sense? I say.... Sony knows that they can't bid against microsoft for any exclusive game.

People should see this statement as a sign of things to come. Is it a just randomly that he said that only a week from E3?

Besides who have a larger intallbase the XBox 360 or the PS3? If you ask me, Sony needs to give some serious incentives to developers to make games for the PS3 since the PS3 may not be profitable for many developers.

As a gamer, tell me how is this good news for the PS3? did people buy a PS3 for moral reasons or to play games?

This news only means that the xbox 360 will have more 3rd party exclusive games for the simple fact that developers can make more money on the xbox 360 due to installbase or because microsoft is willing to share the money they will be making on console sells.

So, Sony is under the impression that developers have to beg them and rush to make games for the PS3 when it's currently the console.

As a gamer I can care less how much microsoft pays each one of these companies to make games exclusive to the xbox 360. I only care to own the console with the largest game library and exclusives.

Look at all the exclusive games the PS3 lost. What's does that tell you? That developers are not feeling a bit guilty about making the games exclusive to the 360 or multiplatform. Why? Cause this is a freaken business and they will first do what's right to their company and their share holders, not what Sony believe worst for them since they can't afford it.

This trend will continue to happen... and expect a big bomb comming out of E3, because this guy didn't say this for no reason.
Sony lost a big exclusive and they are trying to brain washing their fanboys so when they hear the news...
they will do what they are doing now on this post... saying... "wow... microsoft is evil... and Sony is the true meaning of justice and fairness... it's ok for us not have fewer games to play.... or no reason to spend $600 for a console that's bleeding exclusives... cause we love Sony"....

Now, thanks to this guy... I am very interested to see what microsoft will announce.... I can see Sony fanboys saying "We don't care about XXX game... microsoft had to pay for it and Sony does not have to or dont pay for exclusive game." and I and many xbox owners will be saying.... YES! I don't have to pay $600 to play that game anymore! thank you Sony! Thank you! Your policies about online, console price, not paying for exclusive games... can only benefit Microsoft, Developers and Xbox 360 owners.... and the real losers are = Sony fanboys!

[Rims]

He speaks truth.

[caffman]

Bladestar is telling the truth. Strange to call him a stupid xbot first though

[toughluck]

It's so interesting to me how rabid some people get over exclusives. Especially when an exclusive becomes multi-platform (what do you care if other gamers get to play it too?) In this case, I'm really not sure what Sony ought to do... pay for exclusives, or presume that the PS3's quality is enough. If it is in fact quality.

[DrPirate]

If you own a RROD'd 360, you'd know the PS3 is quality stuff.

[the_round_peg]

This business thingy is so unfair....

I want my mommmmy!!

HUAAAAAAAAAAA..WAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!!!!!!!

[Like a shadow I am]

*sing*

Don't cry, baby!
Don't whine, baby!

Oh so sorry,
- but -
don't cry, baby!
don't whine, baby!

:D

[WIIIS1]

Someone ought to tell this guy that money talks and BS walks.

[Keyser]

Jack shouldn't say anything whether he's right or wrong because it comes off as arrogance or a a bad business strategy.

Some of these comments are wild. Routing for a company to win this war is bad for us gaming. We should all be hoping for a draw so that they continue to fight tooth and nail for our precious dollars.

Next gen we could have even more to smile about than this one. If there is no clear cut winner they'll both be going for the throat and pull off some even more innovative technology.

[DrPirate]

I agree, Jack should shut his face.

Let Phil talk he always has nice stuff to say, admits mistakes, and speaks honestly.

[Xi]

you only loose it.

[pLaystation]

He does speak the truth.

[pLaystation]

He does speak the truth.

[ApocalypseShadow]

ODION,stop lying to yourself about sony.

sega used cd and pioneered 3D.but sony pushed it more because the sega saturn wasn't a fully 3D system.ps1 was.and sony pushed 3D for almost all their games.almost killing 2D altogether.

1.sony pushed dvd.no other system had dvd support but sonys.
2.sony created the dualshock controller.no other system had dual motors or dual analog sticks.
3.sony created the eyetoy.no other camera on consoles have matched it in sales or fun.
4.sony created the motion controller with built in rechargeable battery.
5. sony supported a hard drive.which is why the bay even existed on ps2.they just didn't make it standard.

microsoft hasn't made ONE INNOVATIVE HARDWARE ADDITION TO GAMING.bricks don't count.and that's power bricks,update bricks and overheating RROD bricks.everything they made in hardware was a copy of sony.notice how microsoft didn't copy ANYTHING from nintendo but EVERYTHING from sony?

but sony has done more for gaming by capturing the 17-34 market where all others have failed.even nintendo has never sold a console over 100 million.but sony did it twice.

as for jack,he should shut his face and get the ball rolling.let phil,howard and kaz speak.

as for buying content,why should sony buy content?they have enough games being made by themselves.he's right.nintendo never gets ENOUGH third party games.too many gamers have complained about the droubts on nintendo systems waiting for the next nintendo game.it's why they all fail in the end.and microsoft doesn't have a STRONG first party to support themselves.besides the halo series,microsoft has nothing.and forza will never sell as big as the GT series.his statements are fact.gears of war is an EPIC game.an UNREAL ENGINE 3 game.nothing microsoft did made this game great.EPIC just decided to release it on 360.

E3 can't get here soon enough.fanboys will still look down on sony or be shut up by the content that will be shown by sony.and even if it's outstanding content,360 fanboys will still be bitter about something.

you want to be bitter.be bitter about RROD.

[witchking]

Ok, so MSFT's first party is probably the weakest of the three, but Halo only? C'mon. Gears, Project Gotham Racing, Crackdown, Forza... They're improving over what they had in the last generation. Frankly, if they want to buy exclusivity, that's their option. Sony can kick and scream and cry loyalty until they're blue in the face, but I'm still gonna pick up my 360 to play the games they bought on there. I'm still gonna play GTA IV on the 360, because of the extra content. Don't fool yourself into thinking that Sony has some high and mighty calling here; MSFT knows that they can't duplicate with their first party what the third party provides... so MSFT's answer is simple: buy the best of the third party stuff for our console. It's a business, folks. And MSFT is going to throw money at it to win it. If Sony wants to sit back and "earn" exclusivity, then they can fire a few more secretaries, because the phones won't be ringing.

[Imknow1]

You say that you don't buy exclusivity;so how did you secure exclusivity on the GTA series for the PS2? Yeah, thought so! :D

[Mr_Kuwabara]

They didn't. Rockstar just chose PS2 as there console of choice since they started with the original Playstaion back with the crappy PS1 titles of GTA. I don't think Rockstar knew how much GTA will grow with the next generation (that being the PS2 sixth generation consoles) so they sticked with the PS2 since it had a wider fan base than the Gamecube and the Xbox combined. This doesn't mean that GTA 3/Vice City/San Andreas didn't come out for the Xbox or the PC for that matter because they did.

Conclusion GTA was never a Sony exclusive, they just chose Sony as there console of choice and now that GTAIV has a simultaneous release really doesn't mean that much since it never was an exclusive to begin with.

[Like a shadow I am]

Sony first used it back in the 1990s to got an edge over Nintendo and Sega. Of course, once Playstation pulled ahead of competition, then Sony no longer had to buy exclusives. The Escapist even wrote an editorial piece on this just a while ago.

So, Microsoft is merely "copying" an old tactic of Sony. When Sony did it to Sega and Nintendo, then it's all good. But when Microsoft used the same tactic to deal with Sony, now it's wrong. Hm. It's really karma.

The problem is Sony has already lost too much money with Cell and Blu-ray. Sony is losing its shirts on every PS3 unit produced and sold, and Sony just does not have the budget and cash to do what they used to do: buy off developers. So now Sony does not have financial maneuverability to counter Microsoft's aggressive tactic. It's really shortsightedness on Sony's part.

For Sony to say they don't do it or have never done is is really just HYPOCRISY.

[toughluck]

Good point.

[Shaka2K6]

Listeng up xbugs and anti-Sony force Sony is used to losing exclusives from third parties its nothing new dont get all wet over this, they still got support from mayor third party studios making exclusive games for them like Konami,Square,Rockstar,Capcom, Namco ect.

[Kokoro]

They do not sell games at E3.
Edit: So OK, now at E3 where will be a kiosk where you buy the game?!?!

[witchking]

If Sony thinks they can "earn" exclusivity, they're living in the past. This is a BUSINESS, Jack. It's not the video game industry you grew up in. This is about money, billions of dollars worth of money. If you don't want to pay for exclusivity, guess what? Someone else will.

And what that means is pretty simple: you lose.

Have you all noticed how sports franchises have been built over the past decade? Are they grown from the farm system on up? No, they're built through free agency, and free agency is based on who can pay the most for the best players. 3rd party developers are free agents, folks. The sooner Sony learns this, the better off they'll be. Otherwise they'll be the Chicago Cubs of the video game world.

[Sez]

every time jack opens his mouth he is caught in a lie. killzone 2 is in realtime and is real gameplay. 1st lie, if you could find a ps3 sitting on shelve i will give you $1200.2nd lie. now we don't pay for exclusives we earn them. here is your 3rd lie. http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
i guess these guys just gave it to you right.

[ImWithStupid]

that for every penny MS spends buying exclusivity they plan to take it out of your ass tenfold thru xbox live.

You really think they would piss away money on exclusives because they care about their fanbase??

LMAO

no wonder some of you chose an inferior console from a company whose business practices land them in court on a regular basis.

developers should only care about which platform enables them to provide the best possible experience for their title. In fact the MS mindset of charging for everything under the sun and their fanobys taking that and running with it as the rationale for developers NEEDING to always think of the inferior 360 first only shows that people like this will turn the golden age of gaming into a pale resemblance of the wasteland Hollywood has become when it started being run by accountants instead of artists. CREATIVITY and ORIGINALITY goes right out the windows. You make games for the love of the ART and that's the only time you produce something truly special.

This whole cookie cutter approach that the "easier" to develop for 3FIXME provides is for hacks and accountants like EA who crank out the same madden year after year because they have to meet a "sales quota" can KISS MA BIG WHITE ASS.

It's exactly the thing I despise about MS and their idiotic fanboys.

[Imknow1]

You say that MS doesn't care about the fan base,well in that case neither does Sony by losing some of these exclusive games for the PS3 :D

[TruthHurts]

"Microsoft is too dependent on the third-party community, and Nintendo is too depended on first-party. We like to feel that we got a pretty good mix"

wow. i couldn`t have said it any better Jack.
New 1st party stuff is always the most impressive.

bubbles for Jack Tretton. lol.

[Nervsys]

are too dependent on Blu-Ray.

Obvious really, as they don't think they need any games this generation.

[TruthHurts]

and Sony was also too dependant on DVD. weren`t they?
and DVDs did nothing for last gens gaming, right?
and thats why Stranglehold has the game and movie on the same disk.

Stupid Move Sony, from now on listen to Nervsys.
he knows more than you.

[Salvadore]

And there's tons of money which can be made.

[CNIVEK]

coolmatrix - 1 Hour ago

"Microsoft...JUMP IN for Sloppy seconds....
360 users love SLOPPY seconds!!!

Used by more than 50 million gamers, 360 users and MS can enjoy SLOPPY seconds from Devil May Cry 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, etc...

Sloppy seconds....Jump in before going RED with the ring of death...

Hey on your second or third refurbished machine? 360 users LOVE SLOPPY seconds!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Xbox360...Exclusive SLOPPY SECONDS!! "

Um...I think you have that backwards, chief. SONY/PS3 is the one getting the lionshare of "sloppy seconds" this gen. Check this list as proof:

-Oblivion : 1 year after 360/PC
-FNR3: 1 year after 360
-Full Auto: 1 year after 360
-Saint's Row: ended up getting cancelled
-R6:Vegas: 8 months after 360/PC
-Enchanted Arms: 8 months after 360
-Blazing Angels: 9 months after 360
-GRAW 2: 5 months after 360
-F.E.A.R.: 8 months after 360
-SC:DA : 7 months after 360
-DIRT: 4 months after 360
-Fatal Inertia: Who knows? Maybe never.
-Two Worlds: at least 3 months later than 360...if at all.

[Xi]

heavenly sword originally a title for the 360 that microsoft refused to fund, and ninja gaiden sigma an original xbox port.

[progx]

for madden running at 30 fps on ps3.

[DrPirate]

EA Sports?

[Says you]

They suck at it! like the only ones that I can think of that is made by them is MassEffect and maybe BioShock and of course Halo used to be made for PS2 but of coures Microsoft bought them and now its on the XBox 360 but of coures Sony made more exclusives than Microsoft can ever make because thats the only thing Microsoft can do is make few exclusives and buy some of them from Sony so yeah I guess Microsoft is good at bussiness when in reality they'er not!.

[Elginer]

Halo was never for PS2, it was for the Mac.

[chrisin3]

Why are you listing all those titles like you're saying something profound and not already obvious? The PS3 came out after the XBOX, so why wouldn't they get the titles later? It would have been very difficult to get those games out for the PS3 by its launch, and even then, they would still be coming out later than on the 360. It's an obvious circumstance due to a later launch. *Xbox360 was a current market gaming system while the titles you listed were being developed and launched. PS3 was still awaiting launch while these titles were being ported.

Anyway, i don't really care. If a formally exclusive game goes multi-platform--that doesn't bother me. I don't hate another console because it gets the same game i have. People who think otherwise have flawed logic.

ANother thing, a lot of you people have no idea how a big company works. I work for one, so i know a thing or two. Just because a company has money, doesn't mean they are going to just spend it frivolously on every possible enticing venture. Microsoft will not try to buy every third party game that PS3 has. What the developers decide is up to them. Even if the company is rich, that doesn't mean they are going to throw money around like it's water. They have budgets just like everyone else. I've worked for some rich companies, and some of them can be *down right frugal.

[JokesOnYou]

In other words what Jack is really saying is why pay for exclusives that will cost a arm & leg to make on our console but will not sale enough copies to make a profit, yeah we know we need more 3rd party exclusives which is why the PS2 was so successful but this time around our focus is the poo-ray format trojan horse and we need gamers to buy more movies than games which is why our GPU is an outdated pos, cause gaming is secondary, our loyal sheep will buy our inferior gaming console cause we included the ps logo on it. once again sony kids=

JOY

[gunnerforlife]

oh come those that beleive that microsoft can make great games are just stupid even halo aint made by microsoft but by bunie(jk jk) as u can see this generation they have been buying games heres a list

gta
dmc
assasins creed
and there trying to go after
ff
and mgs
i mean if that tells u that thats a company that dosent have great games(halo excluded) on there console than i dont know wat can, the only reason that they were able to get gta dmc and assasins creed was cuz of ken. but things have changed since than they wont be able to do that anymore. that tells u that all they know is money money nothing else.

[ben hates you]

after about 50 comments, that usually what i do

[N4GayFanturds]

Didn't Sony just 'improve' their PR & Marketing?? Don't they realize that it was idiodic comments like this that got them off track??

MS Defense: We don't over rate our consoles. We tell consumers what to expect and then give them MORE....unlike our competitors (Sony).

Nintendo Defense: We don't provide our customers with someone else's innovations (and then proceed to claim it as our own)...unlike our competitiors (Sony & to a degree-MS).

[Arkham]

How many classes did you skip to write all that? Good for you, Nancy! 2 Gold stars!

[USMChardcharger]

i have not read every post(148 so far)...but the bottom line is...

if a company that makes a console i own wants to spend more money to give me exclusive games that i can't get on a rival console than so be it.

why is this article a burn?...microsoft please spend money for me...thank you..wft

ps...it is like saying i hate the yankees for spending more money to buy a better team(i don't do baseball...but this helps sell my point). if i had the money...hell...i would do it too.

who in their right mind faults them for that? if you were trying to get to the top...would you not use everything you had. i would write an article bashing them if they did not. not because they do? again...wtf!

[Sevir04]

exclusives come and go. in some ways MS has earned exclusives. the last i checked they earned lost planet because dead rising sold well and better than expected. which is why they earned DMC4 though it aint exclusive. passed success tends to lean towards future support. in this case it's the same reason why Sony has now once again earned support from Tecmo's Elite Teamn Ninja, we can go on and on about this but it's pointless but in some cases in the passed sony has bought timed exclusive rights for there platform. PS2 with all the GTA. so yeah the ps2 because of 115 mill install base secured tons of excluvise by earning them, but in the start, establishing developer exclusive purchases at the begining of a console Life cycle is always a key to success . MS is doing what sony did with the PS2, and Sony is is just riding on PS2 developer relatins. it's for the same reason why, most every game this gen is pre determind to to have the ps3 as a given platform unless out wardly stated otherwse by, exclusive purchased rights from MS. weather be timed or fully exclusive. in the end i really dont see this as something good for the pres to say. because Sony's console as powerfull as it may be and as good as it may provide an experience. it has yet to really show that it nearned the right to support full exclusives. with it's fan base being so low. still this will be a great testiment in a few years when tHE ps3 HAS A GREATER FANBASE AND DEVS HAVE COME TO GRIPS WITH THERE SYSTEM , AND THAT WHAT THE prES OF sONY SAID YEARS BACK will be completely applicable. I still dont think though that He should have said or taken Japs at MS. it's kinda childish. in any case i think Phil Harrison would have done a better wording and handled this PR much better than he did because he's far more humble and down to earth. and has come a long way in re-establishing the ps3 and Sony's image to what it should be. and is still in the process., so i think jack leave the PR to Phil. we dont need another Ken.

[ApocalypseShadow]

make great games yourself:publish someone else's games.

make a great system yourself:get someone else to do it.(oh,too bad-RROD)

get third parties to support you:buy them out.

get third parties to do exclusives:bribe them with extreme amounts of cash.

make up for your own losses:get blind fanboys to pay through the nose with high prices and fix there own systems at $140.

witchking,microsoft may be improving,but it's only improving its copy methods of what sony wanted to do or is doing.

they copied the camera,but forgot the games.they made music mixer on xbox 1,but it wasn't even close to singstar.they copied dvd but should have went for high def media,they copied the hard drive but it was too small for next gen.hdmi but last gen 1.2 and not 1.3.digital distribution that sony talked about with ps2.but again the hard drive wasn't standard.

they copy everything sony does.but innovative games microsoft will never have unless they BUY IT.while sony leads the way as industry leader.and even if innovative games begin to show up like viva pinata,the fanboys won't buy it.

[Boink]

"we don't buy exclusives"

cause you don't have the money to do it. be honest, quit the BS. If the positions were reversed, sony would do the exact same thing.

[JokesOnYou]

micro is doing whatever it takes to deliver their fans games

sony is doing whatever it takes to makes sure that watching poo-ray movies is the best reason to own a ps3

so far its looks like their plan is backfiring, cause other than the loyal sheep no one wants poo-ray movies and real gamers don't want to play inferior games

when they lose this gen and poo-ray ultimately fails to deliver the jackpot because of digital distribution, I bet sony will switch their focus back to gaming and Ps4 is going to be one hell of a console for GAMING! but its too late for the poo-ray3, nothings going to fix that old outdated GPU, so just suck it up sony kids cause micro is already on their way to fixing the hardware issues but sony is stuck with the RSX this gen, its too funny micro is hiding its true failure rate but everybody already knows its higher than 5% but so even if they admitted what it it wouldn't hurt them much since its already common knowledge and its fixable, but sony can't show the true RSX spec's because it would ruin their whole strategy and claim of superiority since one of the main components for a gaming machine is the GPU and the world would see that the RSX just barely better than what the Wii offers and certainly not next gen like the 360. sorry sony kids= the JokesOnYou(JOY) really it is.

[Skynetone]

very few games are system sellers, is sony saying that if they could get exclusive rights to halo for say a million pounds they woundnt pay it

i think sony talking crap at the minute

[WilliamRLBaker]

we allllllll know sony has never used such tactics...*rolls eyes*

[The Karate Kid]

That was a pretty stupid & lame comment to make. YOU NEED EXCLUSIVES TO SELL CONSOLES!!!!!!!!!! Thats sony problem they arent doing a damn thing about anything, I just seen Transformers an hour ago and it was a scene where a guy had a 360 in his hand and the opening music them for the 360 played, In my mind i was like "Damn Transformers is a Japanese cartoon and its dealing with high technology, where is SONY" how come Sony isnt blitz marketing there console. I appraise microsoft for atleast doing everything they can to grab the consumer attention. Microsoft has been very aggresive to giving the gamers what they want. Right now I'm needing seperation, SONY needs to Seperate themselves from Microsoft come next week. My socks better be blowed off, because YES the SONY ONLY TITLES are going to be great. But Microsoft has alot of XBOX ONLY TITLES ASWELL, and you add in third party support with the better multiplatform game being on 360 coupled with Halo 3 and a price drop, it could be very well the end for SONY. Not because the system isnt powerful enough but because sony is not being very aggressive with there marketing strategy.

Playstation network: Improved from PS2 but still hit or miss, No voice across all games, many dont have headsets, no real community aspect what so ever, playstation store boring with hardly no demos.

XBOX Live: Superb Fantastic Online Service (No Flaws Except a little lag sometimes...Download Movies, TV Shows, Many many Game Demos over 70 titles of demostration games

PS3 PSO: No voice across all games, no custom soundtrack across all games, only good thinf is that the video plays short clips on the XMB. Pretty much last gen software

360 POS: truley next generation POS custom soundtracks across all games, voice communication across all games, gamer points, background wallpaper, nice marketing on the screen, gamer tags, It may have a 8 gig format but the POS is NEXT GENERATION.

PS3 Games: Terrible multiplatform games, a few good titles Virtua Fighter 5, Motorstorm & Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Resistance.

360 Games: The Better multiplatform games, Forza 2, Gears Of War, Dead Or Alive 5, Dead Rising, Lost Planet,

PS3 Price: $599.99

360 Price: $399.99

So from a gamer perspective I truley will walk out of Game Stop, Game Crazy or EB games with a 360 hands down. Thats Today.....

4 Months from now it could be a VERY different story. WE ARE TIRED OF WAITING SONY...........YOU BETTER DELIVER NEXT WEEK!!!!!!

KILLZONE 2
LITTLE BIG PLANET
DEVIL MAY CRY 4 (BETTER VERSION)
GRAN TURISMO 5
LAIR
HEAVENLY SWORD
RATCHET & CLANK
UNCHARTED DRAKES FORTUNE
WARHAWK
SOCOM CONFRONTATION
HAZE (BETTER VERSION)
TIME CRISIS
UNREAL TOURNAMENT 2007 (BETTER VERSION)
TEKKEN 5 ONLINE
GOD OF WAR 3 TEASER
NEW SHADOW COLLOSSAS TEASER
NEW TWISTED METAL TEASER
NEW WIPEOUT TEASER
8 DAYS
NEW GETAWAY TEASER

PLAYSTATION STORE UPDATE
PLAYSTATION HOME
NEWLY REDESIGNED SIXXAXXIS CONTROLLER
NEW FIRMWARE UPDATE 2.0

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST.......... A PRICE DROP To $399.99 Bunbled with a Blue Ray Movie!!!!!!!!!!!

Then the scenario will be very different!!!

Oh and remember this is from a true SONY FANBOY, I HATE 360 but can still admit they have been doing a awesome job

[Foxx77]

I respect what Sony and Jack had to say about exclusive and it is pretty lucrative to pay 50 mil for some downloadable content but just because I respect what they have to say doesn't mean I think it's a smart business move. Exclusive do move systems, as a retail worker that talks with customers daily, I've had lots of people say sure I'll shell out 600 for the system but why, why should I... there just aren't any exclusive. I still think that Sony has plenty of time to turn whatever they need to around ... consoles last several years, not several months. So I'll just enjoy that I have both systems and can play different games on each system.

[Nervsys]

"people will buy our console even with no games cos we deserve it".

Get real per-lease.

[sak500]

Waaawaaaawwaaa...Mommy mommy the big kid took my lunch money...waaaaa...

Remember jack?

edit: @ RIO_hustle: There is kid is playing Gears of War in Die Hard 4.0 as well.

[Nicosia]

I even saw Xbox360 being played in a porn movie hahhahahaha... i just could not stop laughing.

[Bullseye]

what the purpose of this comment is.If i owned a PS3 it would concern me deeply, that a high ranker would make such a strange comment .If it was intended to make MS look bad, it doesn't work.As a gamer i really don't care why a console has exclusives,if its a game i really want, i'll buy the console to get it.Yes, exclusives have always helped to sell consoles, but if Sony thinks for one moment devs will flock to their console to produce exclusives with no financial incentives, they are sadly mistaken.Of course, there are some, mostly Japanese devs, that due to their long relationship with Sony may produce an exclusive or two, but thats not enough over the long term.Also, Sony has not been shy in grabbing exclusives before so, why now? Sony execs do say some strange things.

[DirtyRat]

Maybe sony should change their strategy then because not paying for exclusives is obviously a mistake in this generation when development costs are so high.

[Why o why]

maybe he's on about the concept of paying for exclusivity not dismissing exclusivity. He knows exclusives are needed but they NOW work using a different business model. A high percentage of the best games in this and last gen were exclusives which makes me believe that its easier to optimise for a single system at a time. Bad pr or the truth? Depends on how you want to VIEW sony. When i read the statement it just me think what makes me feel better somebody doing something for me because they want to or people doing something for me because ive paid them. Both are different but effective models. Maybe sony had to pay with the ps1 but now find that they dont want to now or feel they dont need to which some call arrogance. MS is in a different situation and games like GTA that they were initially AGAINST have proved itself as a strong system selling franchise. Lets pay those dudes and our past statements are drowned by cash. If the reason was soley money and sales then there would be NO exclusives. Sometimes its about other factors. I dont thing anybody is against helping development sony or MS.

@DirtyRat
i hear ya but where do you draw the line. Ms and sony both pay for first party games which is costly should both fund companies who know the risk of games development it opens up a different can of worms. Why did MS/SONY they help them and we've done exclusives for them. Paying for something that doesnt try its upmost to optimise is a waste of loot in my books im not even talking about dlc neither. If you wanna do something for us then do it well because you will get paid from great sales that a great game generated.

last thing is sony may not negotiate with terrorist but im sure there are payments just not money payments for working with ps (exclusives or not). Im sure all those insomniac guys are watching hefty bravias right about now..

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@Bullseye
i think if ms had limitless funds and that money was all it was about then there would be no game that ms couldn't get their hands on but ms aren't silly. They payed whatever for gta content and not the game because they themselves will be getting most of the money for the dlc similar to gears maps. It can be spun both ways and I can understand the use both methods. But another thing is exclusives are lost and gained and new ones are made. Sony have lost 1 game altogether this gen which is ace combat other than that its not like games going multiplat is a bad thing. I more look towards the unknown unknowns (new exclusive ip's) that we wont know about on both sides because they do indeed exist.

[Bullseye]

I respect your view, but i think you are trying to spin this statement in to something which sounds positive, when basically what Sony are really saying in my opinion is, we can't afford to constantly be bidding against the unlimited dollar power of MS when that money can't be recouped through software sales at this point.I'll stick my neck out and say, if Sony start to catch up to the numbers sold of the 360, they will buy more exclusives.Think about it for a moment,if Sony need to buy an exclusive right now, it gonna cost them more than it will for MS to buy the same exclusive! Devs want compensating for the s/w they can't sell on the other system due to exclusivity.Since they loose less, from lost Sony sales;due to less PS3 units sold,so they will obviously go for an MS exclusive deal, all other things being equal.

[candystop]

Good point Bullseye!

[Jdoki]

Has anyone actually looked at the 'exclusives stealing' of MS vs Sony?

Seems to me that Sony are just moaning about MS and conveniently forgetting they did exactly the same thing with the PS1 and 2. Given half a chance they would be doing the same thing now. Sony have the biggest network of 1st party devs not because they 'earned' them but because they bought the companies outright.

If Sony are seriously suggesting that every exclusive MS has got was bought they are talking rubbish and seriously underestimating their competitor.

Sony shouldn't worry about the exclusives that MS have got, but the exclusives Sony HAD which are now multi-platform (Assassins Creed, Haze and DMC4 to name three). MS earned those titles by getting 360's in to the consumers hands and appealing to gamers.

I've got no problem with Sony, and the exclusives they have such as Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Drakes, GT5 and FF etc will make me buy a PS3 when the time is right. But they should just knuckle down and get the games released rather than taking cheap shots at MS.

The reason this industry is so dirty is because Sony, Nintendo and MS made it that way, and if Sony can't compete for exclusives they should put up or shut up.

[THAMMER1]

Great post. Sony needs to focus on Sony. His interview should have been about the games and Sony plans to support the PS3 not what he thinks about M$. At this point trying to slam M$ is not working one bit.

[Siesser]

How do you challenge a guy not to answer a question posed to him? He wasn't interviewing himself.

[xbox360migs]

Sony bought exclusives in the batle against Sega years ago!

[Jen5en]

At first hand, the aim for Sony is to prove its system as a better gaming console than the Xbox 360, so I doubt that they care about GTA IV not being exclusive to PS3; they've got bigger things on schedule. Besides, that series has been ported earlier and afterall, Sony is not losing this title. Just like DMC and Assassin's Creed, the respectable companies choose to go with the multiplatform solution, however, I suspect this tendency will only endure in this generation's infancy stages. As more PS3 and Xbox 360 systems are sold, I believe we'll see some heavy contenders on both sides. I have a hard time understanding why it's such a big deal to many people though; I've always been a faithful Sony costumer, but I hold no grudge against Sony because good titles are being ported. If they had gone away, that would be another story. So, I'm happy on the behalf of the X360 owners that they also get a piece of this great series. :D Conclusively, Microsoft didn't 'bribe' Rockstar, they made a deal to have exclusive content, NOT have the entire title. Jack Tretton is a spin-doctor, he throws mud for a living so I think we should calm down and see it as marketing. No more, no less.

[antifanboy]

I loved my ps2, but the second time the drive went out on me, I got an xbox. It was a fun machine and got me into fps games. I'ld love to have a ps3 (i waited in line for a day and a half for one before i sold it for a grand). But, right now the 360 has the exclusives i love. Dead rising, lost planet, gears, crackdown. People shouldn't say ms is greedy. They are a company. It is their job to make money. And you have to spend it to make it. Also, ms has no care as to how well hd dvd does. They are backing it just to fight against the ps3...ms thinks both formats will be obsolete in a couple years when everybody is downloading anything they want in hd.
And a final note (though I didn't read EVERY post) I didn't see any mention of EA's nfl exclusivity; if anybodys greediness has been bad for gamers, it's theirs. I miss me some 2k nfl.

[Da Ghostdog]

I respect you for being a Sony Fanboy and giving respect where respect is due. I consider myself a 360 Fanboy. But until Sony stop talking **** and get some games out, there's no need of me buying a PS3. Ok, MS dumped 50 million for GTA4. So what!! That's just business. Like it or not, this is the next episode of gaming in Next-Gen War. MS & Nintendo are giving Sony the run for their money. IMO, Sony was naive of the PS2 success thinking the PS3 would be the same. Until some exclusives come, there's no need for me buying one. I hope Sony's arrogance won't be their demise.

[Thugbot187]

This is very hypocritical of Sony being that they pioneered paying for exclusives with the PS1. Sony had many things they did to pay for exclusives like waving royalty fee, or just out right paying for exclusives. It’s funny that this time around Sony happens to be loosing so much as a company with BLU-RAY and CELL that they don’t have the money to secure 3rd party exclusives.

Sony is completely full of it
The other thing I want to address is the people saying that Sony sending teams of developers to help 3rd party developers is not like paying the company. If the companies are not paying for those developers to be sent from Sony then it’s no different than Sony handing out free money but managing where it goes personally. Think about it Sony still has to pay it’s developers and it benefits Sony more than just handing out money to send its developers to insure PS3 games don’t come out looking like crap.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Money is all the MS has because there system is garbage. With a high failure rate and the only thing they can do is pay for exclusives.....(fanboy comment) Well Sony really dosent need to pay for games any more there first party seems to hold its own for now...but bye next year ps3 will be a besat

[Thugbot187]

Sony runs into the same problem as 3rd party developers with there own develops and that problem is; if there aren’t enough consoles sold to cover the cost associated with development for games. It is also very hard for a game to gain sales after the first 3 months after release unless it’s an incredible game; most gamers sale back there games after they are done playing them which means no money for devs, not to mention that theses games are over shadowed by the next great game coming out again devs get no money. Sony’s hope is that there 1st party developers can generate enough hype to help move consoles; if Sony can close the gap between Xbox360 and the PS3 then they might get more 3rd party developers back.

[candystop]

Speak for yourself and I mean seriously! We once had a Playstion only home but switched to 360 so don't tell me that Sony fans don't want anything 360! As a matter a fact I have and know many people that made the switch both ways so quit with the you know what Sony fans want crap already! As for the gears of war comment they actually hit 4 million and not 2 as you proclaimed plus can you give us link showing where resistance hit 2 million?

[Ivalice]

Here you go, Resistance have sold more than 2 million copys.

http://www.psu.com/node/116...

[2tired2day2hate]

didnt they they go bankrupt a year ago? that plus a failing system doesnt give you much to bribe someone with.

[Ignorant Fanboy]

Sony has paid for exclusives for years. This is no secret.

But when a competitor comes in that has more money, they say "Oh, we dont do that kind of stuff."

Because they knew if it came to a pissing away money contest, Microsoft would clean the floor with Sony.

[hyphymaniac]

Microsoft has the money to buy out exclusives whenever they think the the game is going to be a hit and im sure that sony has done it before too so im sort of confused why this guy is taking a low blow at microsoft. Buying games as exclusives is a good thing because as we all know games that are for one platform look and play better than multiplatform games, which is better for us as gamers. On the other hand i agree with sony because it can hurt competition. if a developer is being bought out all the time by one company they dont get a chance to gain a larger fanbase.Buying out exclusives is great as long as they dont go overboard

[AudioRage]

The numbers dont lie, you lie about the numbers.. your logic is so messed up its unbelievable.. it frustrates me that people like yourself are actually allowed to use vocal chords, and hands.. its ridiculous, possibly gods biggest flaw.

Back on topic, i dont care if microsoft spends loads of money on exclusives, and i dont know how fanboys can twist this, it basically means we get games.. so whats the issue? if sony doesnt wanna do it, fine, i have an xbox so at least ill still be gettin games, atm i just use my ps3 for bluray movies, so the least sony could do is buy us some titles.

[AudioRage]

Bit of a double post there..

[SkyGamer]

That is why I can't stand sony anymore. They lost the gamers this round. The "playstation" was always meant as a gaming machine FIRST then media second. They didn't do that this round so I hope someone teaches them a lesson.