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Iwata: Bad reactions to announcements a good sign for Nintendo

NintendoDpad:
"With the unenthusiastic response from the unveiling of the Vitality Sensor at this years E3, it seems as though this is a bad sign, but for Nintendo this is just the sign they need.
Iwata during his investors Q&A, has actually given his opinion on the bad reactions the press gives Nintendo when they announce or unveil certain software and hardware which doesn't seem to hit the mark at conferences.
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PirateThom5374d ago

aka it has no practical use in gaming, but the housewives will buy millions of them.

Goomba125374d ago

Comments like that are the reason why core gaming is dying.

PirateThom5374d ago

Core gaming isn't dying, it's just been eclipsed by a big bag of shovelware, motion controls and pointless add-ons.

Goomba125374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

You act as though shovelware was created this gen.

Core gaming is shrinking, if it wasn't then hd console studios wouldn't be going under and being replaced by independent developers who are now making app games for iphone.

Hell flash games also helped pc gaming make a comeback.

Motion controls are just an evolution of control in gaming. If there was no evolution you wouldn't even have dual analogue or a dpad before that.

PirateThom5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

1. Shovelware has always existed, but never has it dominated the charts.

2. Studios go under all the time, games cost more, there's a recession, doesn't mean the audience is shrinking.

3. Flash games helped PC gaming reach a casual audience

4. No. NO. NO. D-Pad worked. Dual Analogue worked. Motion controls do not work. Name one game, that isn't mini-game collection, on Wii, that works better than a game with a controller? Hell, even Nintendo games last gen had better controls.

Goomba125374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

Dual analogue has always been clunky, especially when comparing this generation games to most of its pc counterparts such as fps, third person shooters, etc. Dpad can not even do 3d. Motion controls are just the next step. Get used to it.

Tiger Woods for Wii

If studios and publishers understood gaming more, studios wouldn't be goign under. What studio, that makes exclusively Wii games have closed? None there is a reason behind this. Hell even High Voltage Software, which used it's own money to fund their latest game didn't even go out of business and it's sales are not spectaular.
That says something about this "recession' we are in.

I have a feeling the fall of pc gaming is going to happen again this generation if companies dont start figuring out that if you overshoot the market you lose money.

Redempteur5374d ago

You just need one game right ?

Metroid prime corruption.
the control of this game was fantastic

Smacktard5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

@ Pirate Thom

"Name one game, that isn't mini-game collection, on Wii, that works better than a game with a controller? Hell, even Nintendo games last gen had better controls."

Mercury Meltdown Revolution, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Boom Blox & Boom Blox: Bash Party, Lost Winds, World of Goo, Metroid Prime 3.

These games work fantastically with the Wiimote. I'm sure there's more I'm not thinking of too. The fact is that people really just aren't trying to take advantage of what the Wiimote can do. There's a lot of even good games out there that just don't take advantage of the Wiimote in the correct way. Either do it right or don't do it at all. Little King's Story plays fine without motion controls, for example.

Also, I hate dual analogue. Wiimote when implemented correctly works way better. It worked PERFECTLY in The Conduit. Shame it was such a mediocre game, all-in-all.

cyberwaffles5374d ago

problem with the wii's motion controls is that it's just not accurate and for the most part counter intuitive. i played cod on the wii and those controls were just pure booty. i haven't played metroid prime or the conduit yet so i can't judge the wii's motion controls as a whole, but even then motion controls in gaming are hardly an evolution. they've been done countless times in 90's arcade and look how popular arcade gaming is now? the wii, just like guitar hero, are gimmicks that worked pretty good for a long while but it will eventually be overlooked one day. happens ALL the time. bell bottom pants from the 60's, disco music from the 70's, jheri curls from the 80's; they were all extremely popular things back in the day and most people thought they would never go away because of it's popularity but now you would look like a fool wearing bell bottom pants, jheri curls, and listening to disco.

EvilTwin5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

As others have said, Thom, there are plenty of games that work much better with motion controls. Heck, I'll take Zelda on Wii over the Gamecube, just because it's a lot easier to use projectile weapons.

The best version of RE4 is on Wii, and it's a shame no one has followed that up with another great third-person shooter.

Dual analog works/worked for SOME games. I have NEVER understood people who think it's the be-all, end-all for FPS. It has not ever come close to matching a mouse/keyboard combo. OTOH, the remote/nunchuck has. Conduit may have been generic, but it controlled better (and was more customizable) than any other console shooter ever released.

I don't like tilt controls for driving games, and I could do without motion controls in Madden (although they aren't bad, just different). But if it requires aiming a weaon, I'll take the remote/nunchuck any day.

cyberwaffles -- An analog stick, and then dual analog, could have easily ended up as gimmicks, too. But they didn't, because they were utilized well. In the right hands, motion controls DO work. They won't make a "traditional" controller obsolete, but they can add something (again, if in the right hands).

cyberwaffles5374d ago

"An analog stick, and then dual analog, could have easily ended up as gimmicks, too"

i disagree with that. analog sticks were implemented to pre-existing controllers. they just augmented easier accessibility. motion controls on the other hand are completely different style of controls. i've played resident evil 4, i've played the legend of zelda, and i've played a few other decent games, but still, i don't find the controls to be so advantageous over controllers. i'm not saying controllers are perfect, aiming is no where as perfect as a keyboard/mouse for FPS, but they work perfectly for just about anything else.

i think moving, walking, sprinting, driving, and everything else works infinitely better on a controller. main reason being because it's analogous and you dictate the movement of your characters. have you ever played a lot of games on the PC where you had to hold another key to sprint? i hate that. i feel like i'm playing twister with my fingers. i like the analog stick on the wii, but again, most games just don't work right with the wii's motion controls and it doesn't matter if it's possible to make them work, the point is that the majority of the wii's games and it's motion controls are flawed. if you don't think the motion controls don't need improvements, then why did nintendo release the Wii-motion plus?

EvilTwin5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

CW -- I didn't say they couldn't be improved. They obviously can. In an ideal world, Motion Plus is what the Wii should've been capable of on day one. But that doesn't excuse some devs from giving us some truly bad games; if little 'ol HVS can make a great FPS control scheme in Conduit, there's no reason EA or Activision or Ubisoft couldn't have spent the time earlier to get it right.

I think motion controls -- at least IR/pointer aiming -- work a heckuva lot better in some, but not all, games.
RE4 felt clunky on the PS2.
I could never play FPS on consoles (I'd rent a game, then go back and play Quake on a now-ancient PC).
The brush mechanics in Okami were a LOT easier for me with the Wii remote.
I wouldn't play World of Goo or Boom Blox on any other console.
Tiger Woods will never feel right to me on a "traditional" controller again.

Moving around works just fine with an analog stick. That's why it's there on the nunchuck -- because you don't have to reinvent the wheel for all applications (and it's why some people haven't thought Natal through; there's no reason to have a huge field to navigate without a controller).

And that's why motion control won't replace dual analog, because some games are better served using the types of controllers we're all used to. One of Wii's best games is Galaxy, and it easily could've been made without any motion controls at all.

Dual analog works great in some games. Motion control for others. I like having that option.

Personally, I'd love to see GTA use traditional controls for everything but the weapons. An over-the-shoulder/RE4-type scheme with IR aiming would do wonders for that series (the more limited "free aim" in Godfather: Black Hand is better than any lock-on I've used in sandbox games).

Mini Mario5373d ago

"1. Shovelware has always existed, but never has it dominated the charts"

Are u serious>? are the TMNT games shovelware? Because they DOMINATED the ps2. ALong with any movie game that KIDS played. Singstar/DDR/BUzz were also top sellers...especially singstar (altho not really shovelware...but would u play it?)

N4g_null5370d ago

cyberwaffles motion controls are fine. Please try metroid prime 3 or any wii sport resort game.

I went from not playing any of the Wii sport games to playing that game activitly as I do all of my other games. It gets turned on everday just to break some one elses record.

Just looking at your above comments you have not played enough good games yet to understand how good motion controls are.

Also the Wii does not abandon normal controls. We all know this and really most of the game with out motion controls would actualy play pretty well also. Yet with motion control they have expended the audience. Try waggle with motion plus and you will get beat every time. The ping pong game along with the sword game will show you this, but like most other Hardcore gamers you play a few games and then claim that motion controls suck.

If this is the case then dual analog failed a long time ago when lots of hardcore declared they hated the PS brand dual analog and loved the one on the xbox which mickics the game cube version a little.

As for shovel ware please only a casual gamer sees shovelware or is affected by it. If you want to cal your self a hardcore gamer and can not find any good games on the wii then you are not really all that hardcore to many people execpt the people on your friends list.

The PS1 and 2 had the worst case of shovel ware and if you look at it the PS3 is getting shovel ware ports that are inferior simply because sony did not make the system easy to code for.

You say programmers are lazy then please direct your self to some online C++ resources and tell me you can do better. Then after that please go and learn of art tools for 3d game creation and tell me you can do better with the limits of these systems.

Seriously we understand the Wii is not for every one bu we do know it is all about games and gamers. You may not get what you want but give things time... yet I think what you are trying to accomplish is to tarnish the Wii's software line up so carry on.

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Goomba125374d ago

People hated the Ds when it first hit the scene and everyone from journalists to analysts thought the psp would kill it. Look what happened there. The Wii is on the same path. Negative press is usually people not reading the market correctly.

I remember people saying that the itunes music would nto help piracy and that people wouldn't want to buy digital distribution.

cyberwaffles5374d ago

whatever the case is, the wii will never be on the same level as HD consoles or a PC. doesn't matter if millions upon millions buy them all the time, true gamers will know the wii isn't the best option to go to unless you're playing classic nintendo franchises.

Gr815374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

Two things: 1) you seem to be attempting to lump HD consoles with PC's as if they are on the same level..they are not. HD consoles aren't even junior pc's in other words, HD consoles couldn't hold a fleshed out gaming Pc's jock. They are gimped pc's attempting to be something they cannot.

2)True gamer? So it doesn't matter if the Ipod sells the most mps players, true MP3 connoisseurs know the zune is superior. Or it doesn't matter if DS sells millions true gamers know psp is better? See a trend here? You sir are in the minority, but that's fine, you are a "true gamer" whatever the f&*^ that means. And it seems to me the HD consoles won't acheive the level of the Wii, hell both the PS3 and 360 seem like they are trying to become more Wii like by the day; When's the Wand and Natal releasing again?

I'm almost curious as to what you think about Sony and M$'s peripherals.

EvilTwin5374d ago

Arius -- There's a disturbing trend that "real" or "core" gamers completely reject certain types of games. I don't know when FPS became "hardcore" and platformers became "casual," because I had a helluva lot harder time with Mega Man 9 than with Bioshock. Yeah, I preferred the storyline and atmosphere of the later, but the former's difficulty was absolutely wicked.

If it's not Killzone or Halo or COD or Half-Life, some gamers just turn the other way. But where was the "hardcore" for Okami? I'd take Clover's game over any version of COD. But because it didn't fit the "mature gamer" smell test, its sales tanked.

Personally, I love both GTA and Boom Blox. I don't need to label one "core" and one "casual" because I enjoy each of them. A good game is a good game.

cyberwaffles5374d ago

please, the gaming market has shrunk a lot for PC gaming. and not only that, most games you find on the 360/ps3 are pretty much on par with most PC games aside from the task-intensive games like crysis or whatever. PC is definitely in a league of it's own, but the demographic is different compared to console. same thing with the Wii and no matter what you think of ps3/360 being a gimped PC (well a gimped good PC if anything, 360/ps3 in today's market would be considered pretty decent hardware), it doesn't make the wii's visuals or audio any better. i say true gamers would go to consoles and PC because there you can get up to 1080 games with full surround and such. the wii is literally outdated technology. weak graphics engine, doesn't support surround, max of 480 resolution, a ton of shovelware games, bad online support, and just a lot of other things.

there are plenty of fun games with the wii, no denying that. but people who are into top quality stuff are better off going to HD consoles or a PC.

also, as much better a PC can be, it still has limitations. you won't find MGS4, halo, killzone 2, little big planet, MAG, heavy rain, crackdown, warhawk, infamous, the guitar hero series (for those who like it), and a ton of other games.

point in case, wii is outdated tech. ps3/360 may not be up to the standards of a high end PC, but it's close enough and still produces a lot of games.

EvilTwin5374d ago

CW -- Since when does 1080p alone make a game good? Or surround sound? Don't get me wrong, higher resolution and a speaker behind you can certainly add something to the experience of gaming. But they don't MAKE the experience all by themselves. This is a good list, I think:

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

For every good FPS on the 360, there's a mediocre or bad one, too. Pretty visuals and loud explosions don't save those games from sucking.

OTOH, name an action/adventure game that has totally surpassed Twilight Princess on the HD consoles. Or a platformer that has bested Mario Galaxy this gen. Those games probably won't be topped until Nintendo does it by themselves. On the Wii's less advanced technology.

Gaming is more that the polygons on the screen, just like movies are more than special effects. G.I. Joe certainly has better special effects than The Godfather. But only one of them will be remembered as an all-time great film.

cyberwaffles5373d ago (Edited 5373d ago )

i never said just because a game has 1080p resolution or surround sound makes a game good, there has been plenty of craptastic games that had all those things; like that list of games you linked. games like conflict denied ops, legendary, shellshock 2, and a few others definitely sucked; i don't even want to think about those games. sadly however, those games are better than the majority of the shovelware put on the wii. if the conduit was the on an HD console, nobody would even think of about it being a decent FPS, just below average. and still, 1080p, good online, good graphics, surround sound, good game library go a long way if utilized correctly.

i guess i just like immersion. crysis for example didn't play that much different from most games, but those graphics alone made the game feel completely different to anything else i've ever played before. stuff like surround sound or good visuals can go a long way for a video game since the entertainment is pretty much limited to your hearing, seeing, and feeling. how can you say that 1080p, surround sound, good online system doesn't sound good? there are good games on the wii, but there are also good games on the ps3/360/PC WITH better graphics, online, sound, and other things. would you get COD on the wii or the 360 if you want a good quality game?

have you ever played MGS4 on a nice widescreen with uncompressed surround sound? it's amazing! not only is the game amazing itself, but the visual experience was nothing but eye candy and nothing short of amazing. go to youtube and watch all of Act 4, the boss fight with liquid, or whatever just choose something and then tell me you don't mind looking at games like wii fit. and guess what, i could never experience a game of that visual/audio quality on the wii simply because of it's limiting hardware. why have the mcdonald's cheeseburger when you can get the filet mignon? both are good, but one is definitely better than the other.

in any case, i still enjoy games like FF7 despite those horrible graphics. i still play it even now. however, i want the option to go to games like killzone 2 or half life 2 because in only games like that where you will be in awe from just staring at the environments.

as for games like zelda and mario, well honestly i didn't care for either of them. not bad games, just my opinion. metroid is still my favorite nintendo franchise and i've never had issues with the series. whoever makes the metroid games are geniuses and the other M is looking phenomenal too. metroid is easily above most games in the industry in my opinion, especially over zelda and mario. on topic with your question, i played twilight princess and that wasn't bad, it was ok. mario on the other hand is just flat out lame to me now. i grew up with that series, it's annoying to me now. but if you want good action/adventure games, try these : heavenly sword, ratchet and clank: tools of destruction/age of booty/ACIT, uncharted1/2, ninja gaiden, assassin's creed, dead rising, crackdown, etc etc. i know i'm mixing genres, but they're still technically action/adventure, just more mature for the most part.

now you do something for me, tell me a FPS, a TPS, online game only, western RPG, sports title, racing game, fighting game, and a free roaming game on the wii that surpasses any HD console game. some that come to the top of my head are MGS4, saints row 1/2, mass effect, bioshock, killzone 2, warhawk, resident evil 5, fight night round 4, mlb: 09 the show, battlefield series, infamous, blazblue, street fighter 4, gran turismo prologue, forza 2, tekken, oblivion, motorstorm, orange box, fable 2, prey, cod games, and a lot more to be coming soon.

guess what? all those games are not on the wii and not only that, they're not even possible on it. that's why i can't stand the wii. if the wii could produce games of HD consoles caliber, then i would be more than happy to jump back on the nintendo bandwagon like i used to be on.

Gr815373d ago

That in the same way you don't care about Zelda or Mario, Someone else won't give a damn about a cinematic cheesy scripted movie like MGS4?

And no, gaming PC's and HD consoles are not in the same league, sorry.

EvilTwin5373d ago

CW -- We'll just have to agree to disagree on some things here. I loved Twilight Princess almost as much as Bioshock (ask me tomorrow which one I like more and the answer might flip). I can't think of a game that has topped it within its genre. Same with Galaxy.

Now you're absolutely right on Conduit. It wouldn't stand out at all on the 360 or PS3...well, save for the controls (everyone focused on the visuals on that game, and overlooked the best console FPS controls I've ever played, bar none). You mentioned COD...and I'm actually conflicted. But I'm biased because I have always hated dual analog in FPS. Always. I'd probably take the port of MW over the HD sequel because I just can't go back to dual analog for a shooter (as much as I love Bioshock, I'm not going to play through it again...on a console, at least).

Likewise, I'll take the controls in Tiger Woods 10 over anything on the PS3 or 360, despite the better graphics.

OTOH, tilt controls suck for racing, IMO. Give me NFS on the HD consoles over the Wii any day of the week. Give me Madden on the 360, because it's the superior package.

I can't really comment on MGS4. I haven't played it more than half an hour at a buddy's house.

It comes down to what constitutes a game's superiority on one console or another, IMO. For some games (like Madden), the core mechanics aren't all that different. So the edge goes to the versions that offer a better audio/visual combo. In other games (Pro Evo, TW10), great control options make up for lesser graphics and sound.

One other thing...you mentioned loving Metroid, something we both have in common. The Leviathan seed boss levels in Corruption really did take my breath away. Amazing art combined with beautiful graphics really can enhance the experience. Would I like to see what that looked like on the 360? Sure, but I don't imagine it would have really been THAT much better. I wouldn't call the Wii a cheeseburger against filet mignon for that reason. In the right hands, the Wii is a fine steak.

cyberwaffles5372d ago (Edited 5372d ago )

yeah, i guess you would have to agree to disagree. no denying that. and i wasn't trying to hate on the wii, just giving a God honest opinion on it. i usually call things as i see it (opinion wise of course) and that's the only reason why i say such things about nintendo, mario, zelda, wii, etc etc. i understand if some things click better with others as far as video game features, games, and hardware capabilities go so i guess you really can't say things objectively no matter what.

and my total experience of the wii probably isn't indicative of what it can completely offer, but i played a lot out of it and just wasn't too impressed personally. i enjoyed playing wii play (boxing was fun), i enjoyed madworld, i enjoyed even dragonball z, but in my opinion, i felt like PC and HD consoles had a lot more to offer. but hey, that's my opinion. i understand if someone likes mario over any game of the week. that's their opinion and that's their entertainment. i for one don't like mario as i used to, but who knows, i might need to give galaxy another chance. some games take me a long time to start liking. the first time i played MGS, my first impressions were "meh." now, i absolutely love the series because i gave it a second and third chance to let the story settle in.

battlefield is another example where i almost wanted to beat up the devs for that game because i thought the online was broken. now, i love it; more so than any cod game.

i could go on and on such as socom - which i finally started liking 2 days ago thanks to a friend helping me out - but you get the point. there's a lot of games that i may need to try to play again and just adapt. maybe it's the same way with wii controls, i probably just have to adapt to them like i did with dual analog controls from a traditional keyboard and mouse.

btw, i never wanted to come off as a fanboy. hell, i hate using that word, makes me feel like a 9 year old. like i said, i just called things like i see it. i take jabs at sony too because they're obviously not perfect and i almost considered never buying one considering how lame of a gaming library there was around 2007 (this was when my 2nd 360 broke and i was thinking about getting either another 360 or a ps3, obviously i took the ps3 and it's been getting a lot better ever since i bought it.) part of the reason why i almost never bought a ps3 was also because last gen the xbox was my favorite console and i thought this gen the 360 was going to be my favorite again; but after being disappointed with games like halo 3 (and i was a HUGE halo fan back on the xbox), gears of wars (overhyped in my opinion), figuring out that the ps3 had free online, and after having two 360's fail on me; i just had real problems with the 360 and microsoft's business conduct after that.

so again, if i came out antagonistic i just wanted to clarify it was never a flame war or whatever. i still hold to my opinion that HD consoles and PC gaming is the way to go, but to each his own. i never disagreed your comments or anything because they were obviously opinion.

and you should really play MGS4, but do it the way i did. i finally finished playing my first metal gear game in 2007. it was MGS3 and after that i got hook. right after MGS3, i played MGS1, MGS2, then MGS4. the reason i say to play it in this order is because it's chronological to the story and MGS4 will make a lot more sense because of it's convoluted story line. i also recommend looking up wikipedia for stuff that doesn't makes sense to get a better idea on what the hell is going on. i have a 99% chance you will fall in love with MGS4 like i did.

as for corruption, well, i haven't even played the second one on gamecube which pisses me off. i played the first metroid prime, which made me day dream about it, but i never got a chance to play the second one or the wii version. i only hear good things about it so i'm confident it's a great game. i hear some people complain about the controls for metroid prime on the gamecube though, i can't see why, they're good in my opinion and that's even after years of playing counter strike, battlefield, unreal, etc etc.

@ Arius

first off, i know there's a gap between what a PC and a HD console offers. i even said PC's will always be superior in the technological side as drivers and graphics cards are always being updated every few months. my point is that both the 360 and PS3 are technological behemoths and would still be considered pretty strong computers if that's what they were (aside from the low amount of ram they have.) i'm not pitting PC against HD consoles; if anything, i think they compliment eachother because there are some things that i will always like about console gaming over PC gaming and vice versa. those differences should be pretty self explanatory.

as for MGS4; well i just got done watching GI Joe today and as badass as the fight scenes were (i think i might like snake eyes more than solid snake himself believe it or not), there were admittedly a lot of cheesiness in the story and some parts reminded me of MGS4. i still have a lot of pet peeves with hideo kojima's character design sometimes, especially with raiden's feminist aesthetics or how otacon cries like a girl too much so i agree the story can be cheesy IF it was put into a movie. however, the game translates perfectly in the game. the production value for that game is so high that i say that it probably beats a majority of hollywood movies out in the market and i'm not exaggerating. the easter eggs, the really innovative gameplay, amazing story line, voice acting, gameplay and pacing, it was all perfect. i don't think i've ever played a game series that has made me as emotional as MGS. the funny thing is that i played gears of war first thinking it was ok, but after i played MGS3; my expectations sky rocketed and that's no joke.

if you think MGS4 is cheesy, well that's your loss because i think it's a masterpiece along the likes of the final fantasy series, half life series, and you get the point. you're really missing out, the only thing i could possibly see someone being disappointed with MGS4 is MGO; that game sucks online except for some really cool things you can do in the game.

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kingme715374d ago

It's a freakin pulse reader, how excited did you expect people to get? What will they have next year, the blood pressure cuff attachment?

akaFullMetal5374d ago

not surprising as to why they weren't excited, its a piece of junk. God i don't see why you fan boys can't see that the wii controller isn't that great unless your get the wrist strap wii precision. That is what it should of had in the beginning. 1:1.
But yes the wii and its over abundance of crappy shovel ware and a ton of gimmicky games, like cooking mama, just show how much that Nintendo is going for the kids and stay at home moms, not the hardcore.
I have a wii, I know.

ZoidsRaven5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

If Nintendo DIDN'T care, then we wouldn't have.

Super Mario: Galaxy
Zelda: TP
Metroid: Prime 3
Fire Emblem: RD
Punch-Out
Super smash brothers: Brawl
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
And just so MUCH MORE games. Nintendo doesn't care? Bull, they care about ALL kinds of gamers.

Ask yourself.
Did Nintendo make "Cooking mama"? If not, what's your point?

You say you "own a Wii" (LMAO, right), list your games. That tells people what type of "gamer" you are.

OOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRR, You're one of those PS3/360 fanboys who say "I have a Wii so I can say what I want about it.".

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Crows9011h ago

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And to be honest, there should be space for Tekken 3, Wipepout and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater in order to round out the PS1 identity as the machine to own at the time.

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darthv723d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 23h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 18h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 23h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus232d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 18h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 9h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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