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Rumour: Newton motion controller finally confirmed? - Prototype pic.

XboxOZ360:

Shhhh . . . In a recent IGN video clip Ken Lobb (Creative director of Microsoft game studios) showed the world game play footage of the latest Banjo- Kazooie installment. With all this talk about a motion controller coming to the Xbox 360, could it actually be happening? Apparently so!

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Superfragilistic5773d ago

This has got to be the worst kept secret in the industry. Is this deliberate? Are MS trying to mislead everyone for a bigger surprise? Or is this just the case of bucket with too many holes to plug?

Either way E3 should just hurry up and get here!

mesh15773d ago

im a ps3 owner and i am planning on getting a 360 so im not biased at all all i have to say is that i watched the amazing banjoo 3 clips and we all know what he means,to rotate the analog stick on the 360 nothing to do with a newton controller.

heyheyhey5773d ago

MEGALOLZORDS at mesh1

that made my day....LOL

XboxOZ3605773d ago

You will find an UPDATE on the article which include a full view pic of the controller (two piece) and a link to the developer site Motus who are building it. SO to those who said it's a Photoshop mock up, have another look and see what you say now, remembering it is a prototype and will most likely vary by full production time. Many thanks to Gamer4Life for the link btw.

Milky5773d ago

MESH1 just give up, nobody is fooled by your desperation.

Montrealien5773d ago

Man, this pic is old and yeah, worst kept secret on the internet atm, lol

truth for gamers5773d ago (Edited 5773d ago )

If this is indeed the new controller, I think it's a pretty good concept and a significant improvement over the wiimote.

perfect for saber and sword games, think oblivion and star wars.

bednet5773d ago (Edited 5773d ago )

Gees, it's not going to be epic games that use that thing...it's gonna be kids games, casual games...that's the whole point of getting this thing out.

Be on the lookout for Halo Kart, Halo Play, Super Smash Spartan, Master Chief's Assault Rifle training.

gaffyh5773d ago

This design (and pics) are very old, I saw them a few months back. The design is too big and ugly, and I don't think this will sell well at all.

RememberThe3575772d ago

What the hell did you just say?

skimming5772d ago

Please, Please, Please...

An realistic golf simulation with HD graphics (1080 at 60fps) and 5.1 Audio (nature sounds like ocean, wind, birds, audience, etc) using the two handed waggle controller with true force feedback + wack noise from the controller. Or how about attach a real weighted golf club and perhaps even string attached weighted balls?

Simulate slice, hook, fade, push etc etc with the waggle. None of the idiotic strength meters, please. I can't stand the Wii Sports version, the lame graphics and the even lamer strength meter really turned me off. I'm assuming that MS version of the waggle would be a lot of sensitive and accurate than the Wii version, due to tech advancements and attachable nature of the controller.

WOW.

How about multiplayer with your frat buds over Live with chatting and vision camera support on the links; tournaments anyone? I can see golf addicts (like I used to be) paying hand over fist for something like this.

My price would be $250 if there's enough realism. Endless DLC opportunities (golfing in warzone with automatic weapons?). As cheapest golf outing costs min of $50 (also too easy to spend 100), this would be a steal.

andyo135772d ago

wev taken a full circle back to stick waggling with the joystick

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Silogon5773d ago

Pretty underwhelming. I expected better from Microsoft and Sony, and I say Sony cause you know they will follow the absurd trend too.

In the end, this won't go well for Microsoft. The controller looks like a vibrator and it isn't really attached to anything of merit right now. The wii is the controller. This, it's a supplement. One that will be forgotten about more than likely.

I know I won't buy one.

XboxOZ3605773d ago

Again, this IS a PROTOTYPE, not a finished item. The two rarely look the same in any business development. What we see sitting on the shelves come the end of the year will NOT be what we see here now.

AngryBot5773d ago

MSs newton looks pretty subpar.

Ali_The_Brit5773d ago

follow the trend? are you on crack? the sixaxis has always had motion controls built in from day 1 of the PS3 so sony can never be accused of copying or following a trend when the idea has always been there,anything more they released would just be adding to it

Montrealien5773d ago (Edited 5773d ago )

angrybot on account numer 52, cute.

And ali, the same could be said about MS, Freestyle Pro is 10 years ago. but I don't care, the more the merrier, they are all fun.

gunnerheadboy5773d ago

This contrller looks like a dildo.

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XboxOZ3605773d ago

More like a bucket with way too many holes mate.

Too many people discussing the same thing under different roofs, so little control in who says what and where and when.

Plus it's an ideal way to turn up heat on a topic and make it topical within the gaming industry at large. What better way to "leak" things out. It's a common practice to "leak" information out through "reliable sources" so that it gains some credibility, and at the same time, creates a great deal of discussion and speculation, not to mention heated debate (read fan flame wars).

Both of which 'drive' the internet at its core.

Montrealien5773d ago

yeah, leaking is cheaper then any marketing campaign.

heyheyhey5773d ago (Edited 5773d ago )

jeez they could of at least tried and make their controller look different from the wii-mote

@below

ok fair point- i realize that this is a prototype

but mind if i quote you and then we'll see what the finished product looks like?

XboxOZ3605773d ago

Prototypes generally do not look like the finished item.

God, you should have seen the final 10 Xbox360 prototypes - shudder.

So the real one will probably bear some resemblance to this, in some ways, but the nature of prototypes is to disguise the actual final product. Ever notice how a prototype car never looks the same as the one that roles off the production line.

Many aspects have to be taken into consideration once the "basic' idea is concreted. The whole ease of production, mouldings, components then are taken into consideration, and from that, a final production model is come up with. That then has moulds and dies made from it for the casings and the internals, which are then made to fit.

So it's not a what-you-see-is-what-you-get thing with prototypes. But hey, try telling those basic steps to any fanboys and you might was well bang your head on a concrete wall, you'll get a better response from the wall. hehehe

InMyOpinion5773d ago (Edited 5773d ago )

At least they didn't recycle their controller design from last gen, like one other company did.

pwnsause5773d ago

Jenzo, people wanted that controller Recycled, it is one of the best controllers that has been around for over 10 years already, just put it in your think skull, there must be a reason why it has been around for more than 10 years.

truth for gamers5773d ago

it doesnt look anything like the wiimote, this is round the wiimote is rectangular

supahbad5773d ago

cuz their's wasn't a piece of giant crap

CrashSharc5773d ago

@ jenzo

if it's already perfected, why change it? Seems like the other companies are still trying to find out the right formula for a great controller. They'll get it eventually.

cool85772d ago

only becouse its the best controller ever invented!

Zeevious5772d ago (Edited 5772d ago )

A large firm will have their own Rapid Prototyping hardware and easily run 100 variations of designs just for testing. (think of a Star Trek replicator, but it takes more than a few seconds...hours depending on the size & materials chosen: SLS, SLA, FDM, PolyJet, EBM, alloys, etc.)

You're just seeing one of those tests. The Wii's proven it's formula or it wouldn't be first in sales.

Sony's Controller?
The comments about the Sony controller are wrong...

Sure, you got the best PS3 controller from the past 10 years but missed out on the best controller for PS3 gaming.

Yes, the "ugly boomerang" controller. Most Sony gamers hated it, without even trying it or more importantly realizing WHY it was shaped so uniquely.

Think about it as a controller designed for not only motion feedback, but to be as versatile & simultaneously comfortable as possible.

That's a pretty large order and after tons of RP model tests the controller's form followed it's function, not the reverse. (The ones shown publicly where not at final scale)
http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

Imagine holding the controller vertically, by the arced-extensions...It's a steering wheel.
Hold it horizontally: You're hang gliding or flying a plane.
Hold the grips with one hand in front of the other: You're firing a machine gun.
Notice the carefully sculpted space between the analog sticks...for your thumb, with the PS button moved up so you can still tap Select-PS-Start: You're bowling, throwing a ball or any number of other unique ways to use the controller.

So the PS3 does have the best controller from the past 10 years, but not the best one for the next 10...ugly or not.

As far as prototypes, I'm looking to see what both MicroSoft & Sony have to show for their innovation in motion at E3.

Oh yeah, did I mention that unlike needing the wriststrap on the Wiimote, if you happened to drop or throw that PS3 controller, it would just fling around and come right back?

;)

Seeya' at E3.

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Godem5773d ago

I hope this is not true, I liked how the 360 was the console that PREVENTED Muscle development... lol

XboxOZ3605773d ago

Ahhhh this is what I love about the net . no one reads, just looks at pics (no offense meant mate).

The Newton aka The Darwin Project, is only for certain games within the xbox360 and XBLA system. Games such as the new Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts-N-Bolts, and a few others under development right now which will be aimed at "social gaming" not HARDCORE gamers.

Aimed at "families, fun party games and social gathering style gaming. NOT the FPS, RTS, MMO etc etc etc.

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darthv723d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga3d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv722d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21833d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit2d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus232d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier2d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 23h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1013d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos3d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac3d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1013d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic3d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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