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360 now "winning" in Europe? Does anyone actually care?

Guardian debates: "A few weeks ago Sony were telling us that the PS3 had "overtaken" the 360 in Europe. Now Microsoft are claiming that in Europe the 360 is, "at least, if not more than, three quarters of a million ahead of PS3". Of course, neither Microsoft or Sony mention the Wii which has comprehensively outsold both."

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sonarus5782d ago

I was under the impression that their victories were restricted to the UK. Great for the 360 i suppose being the cheapest next gen console has something to do with it.

Product5782d ago

If you go by what vgcharts says its true xbox is now winning in europe in total sales.somehow.

zapass5781d ago

little xcoxuckas need some good news but since there aren't any, they just make some up: bullsh!t to the rescue, foxnews style

the 360 has been handed its stinky fat ass in europe for a while as we all know.

wake-up m$ biotches: slap! slap! slap!
you're f@cked in the real world

lol

zenkai5782d ago

there is no way 360 won in Europe.

Veryangryxbot5782d ago (Edited 5782d ago )

Sony announced not to long ago that they surpassed 360 sales. Now that was gloating but obviously they wouldnt have done that, if they didnt really passed the 360.

Now MS comes out. That just reeks of damage control. Why should I believe MS. They keep telling people to check their numbers but never tell people what those numbers are. They must use a special calculation for retards.

Because all analysts I have heard, all said PS3 surpassed 360 in Europe. Are they all using the wrong numbers, MS? Or are they using the wrong calculation because it shows 360 is getting hacked in Europe?

MS claims reeks of damage control and thus lies. Why should I believe you over others. How about you come out with some numbers and we can check for ourselves who is right and who is wrong?

Either way, I dont think people care about insignificant numbers like "three quarters of a million" aka 750K units. You saying that you lead by such trivial numbers when youre out twice as long, just reeks of damage control. Noone cares about such a retarded difference.

edhe5782d ago

Any lead for the 360 outside of the US is a victory for them.

Forget that Europe is a Sony stronghold? (despite SCEE being v. poor)

MS is yet the underdog, anything resembling or above Sony sales is an outright win for them this generation, early lead or not. It'd be like any another mp3 player selling the same as an ipod...

callahan095782d ago

"Any lead for the 360 outside of the US is a victory for them."

Oh yeah? Even if they had an 18 month lead (the PS3 didn't launch in Europe until March of 2007 you know)? Even though they had to cut prices drastically so the 360 costs less than a Wii in some European territories? Is it still a victory?

dantesparda5781d ago (Edited 5781d ago )

Is a staunch 360 supporter/fanboy, he's got to be one of these other super-pro 360 guys like POG, Bladestar or Mart. He seems smarter than both POG or Bladestar, cuz half their sh!t is not so coherent and mispelled ridden. And Mart started fvcking up his spelling and making mad typos toward the end. But I just know its gotta be one of these super-pro 360 guys from this site in disguise.

And as for his spin, the fact is that Sony is performing way better in EU than MS is and that's at a higher price tag too and with less time. So he can spin it however he wants, the fact remains that Sony is doing better than they are.

kopicha5781d ago

your numbers prove anything imo. for a long time i have always wonder what makes up the number for 360 sales. there is one thing no one can deny which is the break down rate of 360 compare to PS3. i personally have friend who already purchase 3 360s because of RROD. so selling more doesnt prove they sell better especially when it ends up from the same owner. most ps3 owners only need to buy 1 and thats all. at least their figure is more accurate to the install base compare to M$ since hardly there would be case like ps3 broke and owner purchase a new one.

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Product5782d ago

i think its if you include uk which xbox is winning by a very large margin.

bababrooks5782d ago

i concur, uk loves the 360 gaming and live...the hardware suks though! i also think the 360 will have a great christmas gears will own.

Theo11305782d ago

Short answer, No. Long answer, No

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 12h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle23h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188121h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio20h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7716h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga23h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19924h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218322h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga21h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan17h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit10h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2316h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7216h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier4h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d 2h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-15h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic22h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead15h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d 11h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno1d 7h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k41d 6h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson1d 5h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu1d 6h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson1d 5h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -