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New Square Enix MMORPG under development confirmed

The GDC website reveals that four Square Enix staff members will be speaking at the Game Developers Conference 2008. The full list:

· Fumiaki Shiraishi and Toshiro Tsuchida will be presenting an in-depth look at the development process of Square Enix's Wii Ware launch title Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised Land.

· Isamu Kamikokuryo, Final Fantasy XIII's art director, will touch upon the secret of Final Fantasy art, how he gets inspiration, how he was trained, how his concept art influence the game development, etc.

· Taku Murata, the head of Square Enix's R&D. In this talk, Taku will describe the whole process of the engine development; why now, why not third party engine, what is unique, how it is being developed, what were challenges, etc. You'll be able to see the technological essence of Final Fantasy development.

Taku Murata's page also confirms that a new MMORPG is in development:

"The new game engine will be used for FINAL FANTASY XIII, new MMORPG under development, and other titles in the future."

This pretty much confirms that "the new MMORPG", which might actually be Final Fantasy Haresis XIII, will be released for the PlayStation 3 as it will use the White Engine.

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vloeistof5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

so is ff xiii going to be there ???

oke

techie5923d ago

Yes. At least the engine will be. And this MMO is multiplatform for Xbox 360....this is such old news.

mikeslemonade5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

No the white engine takes advantage of the cell, so sorry because this won't be coming to the 360. FFXIII won't be going 360 and so will this one not be going 360. It's the SE games that are using the Unreal 3 engine that are going to be multiplatform.

Looks like 2009 will be another great year for the PS3.

techie5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

MIKE. The White Engine is a multiplatform engine.

This MMO will be on the PS3/Xbox 360/PC. I don't lie, so don't tell me what I do and don't know.

"Last year we went through a development reorganization, with the development of our own cross-platform middleware – the white engine. This is the foundation for FFXIII and the new MMO," he stated.

Square Enix had previously suggested that White Engine was built specifically for PS3. However, a new MMO is currently in development that also uses White Engine, and it will be a cross platform and cross region title."

Suck on that. If you want up to date, to the point news listen to me., instead of believing your out of date bull.

mikeslemonade5923d ago

If that were true than FFXIII would be going to the 360 and it's not. It's middleware so that it can go to the PC.

k2d5923d ago

Yup! And if the PS3 flops, FFXIII might go multi platform.
Like that'll ever happen. lol.

techie5923d ago

"If that were true than FFXIII would be going to the 360 and it's not"

WHY!!!!????

Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect are on UE3 which is a cross-platform engine - but that doesn't mean they are coming to the PS3! Does it.

The White Engine is cross-platform and the MMO will be coming to the Xbox 360. Stop feeling so worried. FFXIII and FFXIII Versus are PS3 exclusive, the MMO is not. All three are made with the White engine.

mikeslemonade5923d ago

Exactly you just made my point you can't really judge if it's exclusive solely on the engine. FF Last Reminant happens to be multiplatform and it doesn't use the white engine. The title "FFXIII" will make the game PS3 exclusive. Just like how FFXI took so long to get to the 360. It's because Sony has some sort of deal for the FF # name.

Genki5923d ago

What? You just said that the game can't be multiplat because the White Engine is built for the cell, and then when you're proven wrong you say that he proved your point?

Panthers5923d ago

Mike you are contradicting yourself.

And Sony has no deal with the FF name. That is why Crystal Chronicles is going to Nintendo.

techie5923d ago

Mike...I don't know what you're on, but I'm telling you this from what Square Enix themselves have said.

The White Engine is cross-platform, but of course concentrates very heavily on the cell - which any good cross-platform engine SHOULD do.
FFXIII and Versus use the White Engine. Both are PS3 exclusive.
The MMO uses the White Engine, but is cross-platform.

rofldings5923d ago

What happened to this quote?

Nomura: "Versus" is taking time being developped because the team is trying to explore the whole specs (of the PS3). Our programmers were asking, "is it okay if we program it as a PS3 exclusive? If you're thinking of porting it to other consoles, we might have to change the specs to follow suit the others." And I answered, "PS3 exclusive, of course."

mikeslemonade5923d ago

I did contradict myself but only because Deep contradicted himself first and gave the idea to contradict myself. He named 360 games that are exclusives but use the Unreal 3 engine. And then he said since the White Engine is multiplatform it's going to the 360. If that were true then those 360 exclusives would be going to the PS3. SE hasn't made an annoucement yet really. Your conclusion on saying it will go to the 360 is that FFXI did go tot he 360 but that's after years. It will be timed exclusive on PS3. It won't be a simulataneous release.

Skerj5923d ago

@Rofldings

FFXIII and Versus are still PS3 exclusive so that quote is still true. The Unknown MMO has been stated as being multiplat since it's announcement.

techie5923d ago

"And then he said since the White Engine is multiplatform it's going to the 360."

NO HE DIDNT. He said this MMO will be on 360/PC/PS3.

You said it can't because it uses the white engine which is for PS3 only.

I said the White Engine is Cross-platform.

Thus my original statement is still valid. There was NO inference of the cross-platform engine meaning it would be 360, I had already stated it was 360.

Deep does not contradict himself.

techie5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

More evidence?

"I'm still working on XI as it's on-going but we are also working on a next-generation MMORPG for 360 and Vista but PS3 is a possibility."

http://www.videogamer.com/d...

Edit: Mike below. I'm not predicting. Your record is "guessing"...which isn't a record at all. Speak sense, and I won't type in a surprised manner at the oddness of your words.

mikeslemonade5923d ago

Alright you win, but my record is high picking the Giants to win and HD-DVD to lose etc. And can't you correct me in a nicer manner? All those exclamation points and caps aren't needed.

JVIDICAN5923d ago

thought i should point out sony owns 40% of square enix. doesnt affect this much but yeah =P

resistance1005923d ago

@JVIDICAN

Not true, while it is true they used to they sold a large amount of the shares. Sony now own around 10-15% of Square and with the success of Squares games worldwide i imagin sony get fairly large dividends at the end of each year

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Iamback5923d ago

If it is MMO than it should be mutliplatform, there is really no reason for not to. But if it is true that it will use white engine, than i guess it can only be for PS3, since that engine is developed to take advantages that PS3 offer.
Well time will tell, i personally don't care for MMO games.

techie5923d ago

Where do you get your info from. White engine IS multi.

Iamback5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

You can find on internet many articles that white engine IS-IS and again IS engine designed to take advantage on PS3 and ONLY for PS3. White engine will be used on FF13 and FF13vs.
This is why for "Last Remnant" (first PS3/360 game) Unreal Engine 3 was licensed, because white engine IS only for PS3.

techie5923d ago

You're wrong :) ""Last year we went through a development reorganization, with the development of our own cross-platform middleware – the white engine. This is the foundation for FFXIII and the new MMO," he stated.

Square Enix had previously suggested that White Engine was built specifically for PS3. However, a new MMO is currently in development that also uses White Engine, and it will be a cross platform and cross region title."

Straight from the horses mouth.

"our own cross-platform middleware - the white engine"

Iamback5923d ago

You took that from Wikipedia LOL IMAO

Kain815923d ago

that there MAIN Developer Plattforms are PS3, Wii, PSP and NDS.

techie5923d ago

Lamback, I took it from a Gamesatra interview with Hiromichi Tanaka, an executive officer at Square Enix.

Iamback5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

@Kein82

Cross-platform could also be PS3/PSP. There are some rumors that you might be able to use you PSP for something as you play FF13 on PS3.
"Cross-platform" could mean a lot of things.
But i stand by my words that MMOs should go to all platforms, no point in being exclusive.
Also i could not care less for FF MMO, after FF12 it will take a lot for me to play FF13, so it better be something special.
I have wasted all my 5 bubbles, so i wont be able to replay any more. Bye.

techie5923d ago

Hiromichi Tanaka "we are also working on a next-generation MMORPG for 360 and Vista but PS3 is a possibility."

360/PC/PS3...listen to deep.

Kain815923d ago

but this was only an Idear from the developer, there was nothing planned
so maybe there changed there minds who knows, its Buissnes and than there is this announcement a month ago (MainPlattforms for Square-Enix:PS3, Wii, PSP and NDS).
I would say wait and see what Square-enix will show, mabe a MMO for Wii.
Like Crossing Animals

SUP3R5923d ago

Doesn't matter if the MMORPG is on the 360.
The 360 still won't have the main line of Final Fantasy games ie. FFXIII and vsXIII.
So all is still good in the world.

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StrboyM5923d ago

just stopped playing ffxi after 5 years...all i can say is WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!

i cant wait i miss my char soooo much...

Skerj5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

Hopefully it's like the vision of the original PlayOnline FFXI trailer that was never fully realized. I'm really hoping that it's a MMO in the FFXIII world, that would be freaking AWESOME.

Mercutio5923d ago

It's gonna be so awesome..

heyheyhey5923d ago

if it uses the White Engine then i guess its another exclusive game to add to the PS3's list

although after the flop that was FF11 i cant say im too excited- unless it completes the FF13 story somehow

techie5923d ago

the white engine is multiplatform.

heyheyhey5923d ago

link? proof?

SE has said that they built the White engine specifically for the PS3- so stop saying that until you can provide some proof

besides Sony owns 40% of SE, and they probably have a deal saying that FF games can only be on the PS3 and the Wii

Skerj5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

After the merger between Square and Enix, Sony's stake is roughly 10% unless it has increased in the past 4 months since I checked. You're both right though, the White Engine is both created for PS3 and I'm guessing the middleware multiplat one is lacking PS3 specific features like SPE optimization but it does exist.

http://ps3.psu.com/Square-E...

Lew_Ijgee5923d ago

That MMOs usually require a HDD.......

techie5923d ago (Edited 5923d ago )

One. I am the proof.

Two. Hiromichi Tanaka, an executive officer at Square Enix, said "Last year we went through a development reorganization, with the development of our own cross-platform middleware – the white engine. This is the foundation for FFXIII and the new MMO.”

http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Three. "The "new MMO" he refers to is an as-yet-untitled project that is indeed multiplatform." http://blog.wired.com/games...

heyheyhey5923d ago

@deep

perhaps- but i will not be convinced until i see a game on the 360 using the white engine

i heard that it is designed to work with the SPE's of the Cell

Sevir045923d ago

both project sylpheed and infinate undiscovery both use the the white engine... also

@ deep while it says multiplatform. i do remember them saying that PC was definately the main target for the MMos and the PS3 as well. and because the 360 isn't HDD standard, square wouldn't really sell too many of the mmo's on the 360 becaus enot everyone has an HDD 360. with that being said. multiplatform can also mean PS3 and PC... like alot of the SOE games coming out this year and next. also Hearesis was only copywritten. it was never announced and neither was a specific platform.

So to just claim that it's going to be on the 360 without square confirming it is pure assumption and speculation on your part.

i will say that square will have an MMO on the 360 at sime time in the future but we dont know what it is and when, and if they do it will be long after the PS3 and PC versions because they both have HDD standard.

Kain815923d ago

dont use White-Engine thats for sure.
Tri-ace developes the game Square-enix publish this for them nothing more.

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7 Iconic Games That Put The PS1 On The Map

The first PlayStation is home to an array of iconic video games that went on to define the sheer significance of this console.

SimpleSlave1d 16h ago

I think from a historical perspective I would change Spyro for Grand Turismo. It's the franchise that made the PS1 look like an absolute unit. Other than that, I can't argue with the rest when it comes to games that defined the PS1.

And to be honest, there should be space for Tekken 3, Wipepout and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater in order to round out the PS1 identity as the machine to own at the time.

With Tomb Raider 2, Silent Hill, Symphony of the Night, Tenchu, and Soul Reaver as backup contenders.

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia2d ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia2d ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator2d ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

Father__Merrin2d ago

Used to own all these quirky JRPG on ps3 good times. Wish I would have kept them all

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv724d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga3d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21833d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus233d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier2d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan2d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1013d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos3d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac3d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1013d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic3d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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