Why FW Update 2.40 Was A Failure.

Via AnalogHype: "Firmware 2.40 was released and to be honest. I was really unimpressed by it. I was one of the people extremely hyped for this update. And I was saddened when it honestly didn't live up to the hype it was building up. I'm going to break down each of the main features and speak my peace about the latest update."

[chaosatom]

It takes time and support from those bastard lazy developers.

It will get better.

[Ex The God]

I know. This is blatant hating either. I'm sure if people read it they would agree with most if not all of the reasons stated.

What I meant by that..was that somethings impressed me somethings didn't.

[Hydrolex]

Good list.

We are not bashing Sony, we want them to know their mistakes and fix them.

Microsoft doesn't even fix their mistakes. 360 Elite 3 RROD

[Silellak]

Doesn't matter if your points are right or wrong - I happen to think you are, for the most part, right - but terms like "Failbox 360" do not belong in the Gamer Zone.

Also, regarding point #3, he was saying he doesn't care if the PS3 shows the XMB in PS2/PS1 games, but that it SHOULD show up during movie playback. Which, for the record, the 360 does do.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

That's it 1.2 and 1.3 Deflect it, deflect it!

Hydrodunce still using the same tired arguments. How is putting a side 1 billion dollars not addressing a problem? How is replacing the motherboard with the Falcon chipset(soon to be Jasper chipset) and eliminating most of the RROD failures not addressing the problem? Why are we even talking about MS?

What did Sony do with the PS2 DRE issues.. NOTHING. So go take a history lesson before you start spouting how MS does nothing and Sony does everything.

[Voozi]

Regarding the DRE. A lawsuit was filed against Sony where they then agreed to repair/replace PS2's that suffered from the DRE for free up until 2005.

Just thought I'd educate you on that. But sucks for me though since I was uneducated on that at the time my PS2 got the DRE and was out of warranty and bought a new PS2 Slim D; oh well lol nothing I can do about that now XD

[mesh1]

im a ps3 faN AND ive had anough time after time sony elts me down my ps3 broke i had to pay 150pounds to get it repaired ,2.40 bugged out my ps3 and the trophys are not well done i compared them to my bro 360 and it was garabge ,i rARELY PLAY my ps3 software axs they bore me im an deffinatly returning the ps3 as soon as e3 comes sround

[PAPERCHASER0396]

Why is this guy speaking about thing that 2.4 gave us which should have been included at launch the title specifically implies the to reason why 2.4 was a failure, most of the things he states were a plus not a freakn minus so he needs to give us only the failures...

[JBaby343]

I'm happy with 2.4 and haven't had any problems with it. Now that I can in-game text I don't need anything else. Someone is just trying to bring the PS3 down because it keeps getting better. Just play b3yond people. The improvements keep on coming.

@crab: I've known at least 12 people with a PS2 and none ever had a problem. I know 6 with 360s and 2 of them have had them die on them both multiple times. The PS2 might have had some issues but in my experience it was nothing to go crying about. Try again.

[jamesrocks3147]

no in game voice chat :( come one sony this is needed.
now XMB is here i think voice chat will be the most wanted thing
for the PSN now. and it needs addressing to sony ALOT
GIVE US IN GAME VOICE CHAT!!!!!!!!!

cross game invites??

i would like also.

[doG_beLIEfs]

Wait a minute. Why am I seeing posts and articles about Sony should have WAITED and not released 2.4 until it was ready? Seriously, WTF?
So many (including me) have complained that Sony should give us in-game XMB so that we can send and receive messages. Is that not what Sony just gave us? Did they not say this was phase 1 of 3?

The same thing goes for Home. I hear constant crying that Sony should quit delaying it and release it. So let's say they do and viola, people will do an Al Gore and say Sony should have not released it till its ready.

Stop crying about what isn't in the 2.4 update and start enjoying what IS in the update. The games that are out now are probably going to stay pre 2.4, however the games that come out from now on...WILL more than likely have 2.4 support.

Honestly, I have seen LESS crying at a baby shower. If you are an adult you will have learned to be patient by now. Be patient, Sony is NOT done with the firmware updates, every single update will add more functionality and give us a better system.

ENOUGH!!! STOP CRYING YOU BIG BABBIES!!! GO GET A BOTTLE FROM MOMMY AND GO TAKE A NAP, maybe if you sleep long enough you might wake up without that giant stick up your bum.

Pathetic.

[IanTH]

"All in all I was impressed but I was unimpressed by the new firmware update". Uh huh...so you don't really know what you thought of it?

You know what, I have a hard time taking people seriously when they write as poorly as this article was written. I don't know how I'm expected to give any credence to what is said when I'm getting stabbed in the eye every other sentence. All I have to say is, though it may sound stupid and picky to knock the writing, it makes me cringe.

In any event, I went ahead and endured it anyway...let me tell you right now that it was a waste of time. The writer basically said that the cons far outweighed the pros. First off, how anything is a con I'm not sure. You either find a feature is useful and you like it or a feature is useless to you and you could, at most, feel indifferent about it. How anything that was added in this update could be considered a con by anyone is beyond me.

Interestingly enough, he stated many things were cons simply because he thought they should have been there day one and/or that they shouldn't have been listed as a "main feature". Hmm...so the features weren't there, we spoke up and asked for them, and they delivered. Late? Yes, but they delivered them nonetheless. So the writer deems this firmware a failure because...well, because the features were late. Apparently "better late than never" doesn't apply here.

On top of which, I'm not sure where he got that things like the clock or quitting the game from the XMB were "main features" from. They were just features that were listed as being in the update. They weren't touted or anything. I'd say Sony said the main features here were the in game XMB and the Trophies. I think you'd find many agree.

[cmrbe]

to ask PS fans to stay away from these moronic articles. Don't dignify them by giving them a single thought. Don't give them a hit.

Guys the trolls are out to try and bash this new feature because they fear it that much. You guys don't have to explain or defend anything. Any person with half a brain knows that this is a monumental step forward for the PS3 and something this big will not always be 100% bug free and Sony it will patch it in the near future. Most of you are already enjoying 2.4 and are having a blast. Don't feed the trolls and enjoy 2.4 for FREE. Early impression from professionals have been very positive(See IGN 2.4 impression)which is amazing for a first try for Sony and here is the kicker, it is going to get so much better especially with Home.

As PS fans we have a sh1tload of stuff to look forward. Lets not get bog down in these useless arguments with scared trolls because its useless trying to reason or argue with fools. Let them hate and bash while we enjoy everything that the PS3 has to offer.

[agent864]

yes it should have been there from the start and yes I want cross chat and invites.

i would rather have everyone earn their trophies than copy them off the internet.

saying that an added feature like the clock is a failure because it should have been added sooner is ludicrous. is the feature useful or not ... does it work or not.

the ps3 does show you when you receive a message in game although these notifications can be turned off. the author probably had this setting turned off

launch directly into another disc based game from the one i'm currently playing ... not sure why the author complains about this. you have to get up at somepoint and change the disc ! its not a big deal to have to quit it and go into another game do it before you get up off the couch your game is already interrupted.

in movie xmb -- there's nothing like watching a movie and getting all kinds of popups. if you stop the movie check your messages and play it it picks up where you left off. no big deal.

in game soundtrack -- its implemented this way because of Microsoft patents. Sony had to leave it to game devs to have an in-game component to implement this to get around the patent.

this all being said having played with the new update SSHD last night i enjoyed the update quite immensely. I chatted and played and earned trophies all at the same time well you know what i mean. and by that measure it was a success.

having said that i do appreciate that xbl has had these features and more from the get-go and realize how forward thinking and gamer focused Microsoft was in their implementation.

[mistertwoturbo]

As I've said, Sony could give everybody free gold and complainers will complain that it's not 14 karots.

[JBaby343]

Too bad the crab didn't respond further with fud.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

The ps3 does show the xmb during movie playback. I was watching meet the spartans with my friend today, we pressed the button, and the xmb came up.

[TapiocaMilkTea]

How can something extra and free be a failure??? If you don't like the extra features then don't use it!
If you're talking about the glitch then it's just a temporary technical problem.
I'm not even going to bother reading the article......

[barom]

He was obviously very much misinformed. He talked about how 'quitting a game' and 'time/date display' as being MAIN features. Obviously in-game XMB was the MAIN feature with focus on trophies, in-game messaging and music. Obviously Trophies not being retroactive is a good thing as I could've just downloaded saved games for pretty much all the games and gotten the trophies for games I don't even have. Rest of his complaints, well my opinion about them is under.

To me this sounds like a small kid just wanting his opinion out without understanding the work and effort that takes behind these features. That I could've gotten just from this quote

'Now I honestly think they could have gone that extra mile and done at least DVD/Blu Ray XMB. PS2 I see no point but not having XMB in the movies is kind of lazy in my eyes.'

or this

'I really feel that Sony could have waited and perfected some problems plus added a few key things that would have made me extremely impressed.'

Personally I'm happy they've gotten this feature out. I would rather have this than nothing at all and since this is out now developers can start supporting trophies and in-game music.

[LastDance]

are we really talking about a failing FIRMWARE UPDATE....can that even fail...wtf?.....Now were really debating firmware......dear lord.

[ThichQuangDuck]

Just because this feauture wasnt implented at first and not all developers want to go back and make self esteem boost in their game instead of focusing on the new game doesnt make them lazy. Im going to be a game developer soon but people like you , the ungreatfuls make me happy there is some people who appreciate good games.

[blackboyunltd]

very good list, the developers should peep this list

[toughNAME]

Maybe Sony shouldn't have released it so quickly? They probably should have given 2.40 some time...like 2 years or so.

[fenderputty]

How long did it take xbox live to get to where it is? I'm pretty sure it's been around since before the 360.

The biggest complaint was that there is no cross game messaging which has now been taken care of. Trophies have been added and will be noticeable in months time after more games get released. Ingame custom tracks are the only area in which they didn't deliver. Then again, they laid the foundation for it to happen so I hope, like trophies, this will become a normal thing as well.

Its not perfect, but its one giant step up from where it was. It's free and functional.

[HateBoy]

Who's talking about the 360? Stop being so defensive, it makes you look really insecure.

On topic: I dont care, seems fine to me...

[Salvadore]

The whole issue with in-game music, isn't that because Microsoft owns the patent for Universal custom soundtrack and Sony has to instead rely on developers to incorporate to their titles?

[Ex The God]

@ beast

I never did. I always had to go back out of the game go over to messages and then see that it was there. The PSN never gave me a message when I was playing a game.

[beast]

That feature has been there since day 1. Thats how most of my friends communicate with me while i am in-game . putting the message in the subject heading so i can get it in-game. Really that feature has been in PS3 since day 1

[Shankle]

Which model do you have and where do you live? I've always been notified of messages immediately like Beast.

[athlon770]

under the settings menu...message notification!

[beast]

"Send text messages to PSN users on your friends list
I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a message in game that was important and didn’t know because it doesn’t show you when you get a message in game. This (along with the In Game XMB obviously) are the biggest features for me in the update"

What is he talking about. you get the reminder on the upper right corner whenever you recieve a message, and a conformation when someone else read your message...

[Infernus]

I think he turned his message notification off and forgot all about it. The PS3 has had msg notifications since launch.

I used the msgs the same way you did Beast, put the msg in the header. I see 2.40 as a huge success, I've wanted ingame messaging more than anything else in this update and it makes life so much easier. Playing Warhawk yesterday and was talking about trophies and things with someone playing GTA4, I also like the way the igXMB doesn't automatically pause the game, I have one of those minikeyboards and typing messages is real fast so I don't really need to pause to reply.

I disagree with this article, 2.40 is a success and has laid the foundation for Home when 2D Trophies become 3D trophies. The level up trophy system is much more appealling to me than a random number gamerscore. I played SS:HD a bit today trying to get some trophies and the Bronze Silver Gold split is definitely distinguishable, those Gold trophies take some effort.

I would like to see updates for Burnout: Paradise, Skate and GTA4 though. I know Warhawk is getting trophies soon! :D

[Blademask]

This has to be some of the worst writing I've ever come across in my life.

Can we do a new filter to stop people from trying to drain hits from this site onto their own? Its very pathetic. It gives all of these idiots an outlet for their brain farts. Everyone with a blog now thinks they are Walter Cronkite, and that their opinion in some way matters more than someone who didn't spend the 5 minutes it takes to get a wordpress blog up.

This guy has an opinion, great. Its clear he isn't an educated journalist, nor does he know how to form an objective opinion.

Its just a fanboy crying because Sony said "4d" and that Killzone2 was real time. Everything thats wrong with 2.4 is obvious. I doubt anyone at this time is calling the 2.4 firmware upgrade a success, seeing as how Sony themselves took it down. The main success is that Sony is finally working on it, they gave us a taste, and I'm sure they will perfect it soon.

I feel sorry for the morons that think Sony tried 2.4, and that was it. As if they are never going to work/upgrade it in the future.

Thanks Captain Obvious! Enjoy the 100 hits you are going to get from this site.

[cliffbo]

not even going to read that article...

[Shankle]

You should. It's good.

[dro]

HOW BOUT Y THIS ARTICLE IS BS >> PURE BS << who wrote this article and y did it get posted, how the hell is adding in game XMB and trophyes a failure. looks like some people just want to bash sony no matter what they do ! very poor and dumb post ! =I

[DJ]

I'm lovin' it right now.

[Pornlord]

Well, feel sorry for me then. I was at work throughout most of the day in question, they had just taken it down when I got home to update.

[DJ]

There should be a site that stores every firmware update they release.

[Captain Tuttle]

I feel worse for the people who had to re-format their hard drive after downloading.

[INehalemEXI]

Its a giant step in the right direction. How do you call that a failure....

[kazuma]

hyping consoles, hyping games, hyping firmwares, what next? hyping controller cables? maybe we should hype power adapters too

[ParadoxicalAssassin]

nice one

[tojfs7931]

Like that oversized monstrosity that comes with the 360 and you have to use legos so that the thing doesn't overheat?

[Infernus]

Lego has no plural, it's lego not legos. I don't know how bad the 360 'power brick' (As it's known) is since I don't have a 360 but using lego to prevent overheating sure does sound fun :)

I wonder if I could make a replica Warhawk out of lego in a day, get it accurate enough to be instantly recognisable, including the fold-down wingtips lol

[avacadosnorkel]

"Now this is not just something that everyone on PSN wanted, it is something that PSN needed"

- I'm not included, because I could really care less if I could send invites or chat with you people. Leave me alone and let me enjoy the games I want to enjoy and don't try to make it seem like just because the 360 does things it is something people have to have...because it's not.

If I really cared about these features I would have already sided with Microsoft, but since some/most people annoy me, I could give a sh1t.

Thank you but no thank you.

[pwnsause]

WTH? WTF? is this? what kind of article is this?

[tojfs7931]

Poorly written anti sony fan boy article.

[Fishy Fingers]

"in my eyes" should of been added to the title. The "author" certainly doesnt speak for everyone, at least not me.

Edit: A disagree... yeah your right, he speaks for me... I'm a sheep for internet blogsters, it's my cross to bare o_O

[Marceles]

"Launch directly into another game from the one you’re currently playing

At first I thought this might be from retail game to retail game."

What a n00b...like...never mind, i'm not even gonna elaborate on this, what a N00B. Never mind I can't help it, why the hell would you have an option to launch directly into another retail game if they're disc based? You're going to have to get up, eject the game, put in your new game and play it anyway. I swear...did he think you can install retail games to the hard drive like PSN games on 2.4 now? I guess he did...

[doG_beLIEfs]

how about it? I am still scratching my head on that one. This has to be the most pessimistic and complaining gaming generation in the history of videogames. WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH, I want I want I want....NOW!!!

Maybe the politicians got it backwards, videogames dont make you violent, they make you cry like a baby and constantly complain along with saying my Scwartz is BIGGER than your Schwartz.

[gnothe1]

if I'm playing gears of war an 1 of my friends sends me an invite for COD4 all i have to do is accept the invite an put the disc in an the 360 does the rest!! its connects me to the match an right into his/her game. retail to retail!! that's all he's trying to say!!

[Arduen]

I agree that had to be about the dumbest "problem" mentioned in his post:

"Launch directly into another game from the one you’re currently playing
At first I thought this might be from retail game to retail game. Without having to quit the game I’m in. Then eject then start another up. I was disappointed to discover that it was only going from PSN to retail and vice versa. Nice feature but for someone like me who rarely plays PSN games it was quite useless."

Either he was expecting the discs to just fly around magically by themselves or he wanted the system to walk him through the process of starting a different retail game.

Launch new game?
1. Get up
2. Hit eject
3. Insert new game

At what point does the XMB even come into these steps?

[Arduen]

You're describing cross game invites. A nice feature, but one that was never even claimed to have been included in this update. Maybe Sony will implement something like this in the future, but for now people will have to be content with leaving the autoplay option on.
Recieve an in game message.
Eject that disk.
Insert new disk. Game starts automatically if you leave autoplay option on.
Join game.

So yes, this FW was a complete failure at meeting some imaginary assumptions.

[athlon770]

have a bubble

[Eromu]

"But I guess Sony thinks I don’t deserve trophies for the games I’ve already completed seeing as Trophies aren’t retroactive."

*facepalm*
What an idiot, does he not understand it is to prevent people from just going to GameFAQs and downloading save files for every game to get the Trophies without earning them?

[tojfs7931]

The point of cheating to get acheivements or trophies or whatever.

[yoghurt]

No matter how much you flame, hate bait, want sony to fail, they wont. It might take time, but the life of the ps3 is progressing very well, I'm amazed as to how much additional functionality has been added since I bought mine. Sony will succeed, and if you want to enjoy the ride I suggest you dont do what I just did and read naff articles like this. Pathetic. and to clear one point up, which someone else said, it DOES show when you get a message in game.

[packerfan80]

well maybe you should go to settings and turn it on, even before in game xmb came out , tehre was a message in the upperright corner whenever u recieved one.

[Ex The God]

Lol I know...I tried that..it still wouldnt work.

Wow @ how many sony fanboys flood n4g though

[CViper]

I find it interesting that you clearly posted this as flamebait, and that you are ignoring everyone bringing up valid points.

Why should anyone take you, or your article seriously based on your own actions?

You just painted everyone with a "fanboy" brush. Although most of the higher bubble members here are anything but fanboys.

Your article is nonsense.

[juuken]

Whining, that's what it is.

2.4 is merely the beginning of what's to come. I don't think it's a complete failure because I see it as being very successful. Once Sony gets to the root of the problem with the update and fix it for those who were having problems from the start, everything will work well.

[juuken]

F*ck you Bladestar, just f*ck you okay?

You know what angers me? F*ckers like YOU. You can't just let something go, oh no. You have to continue on with it like a couple of immature dikes. 2.4 sucks? It does? You were just lovin' the negative news surrounding it weren't you? For me, 2.4 is the beginning of things to come. People seem to forget that Sony is first and foremost a hardware company. Of course it will take time for them to improve the software and when they do, PSN will be at it's best.

I didn't take my medication? Cute, but no. Your little cronies took away my bubbles because they were a couple of lowlifes who couldn't debate with me when it came to MY arguments as to why the PS3 will come up on top. I could care less anymore about the bubbles because you know what?

Life goes on.

[LiquifiedArt]

Its gotta be the worst website i've come across. Out of no where they appear on N4G, and have an article every other day. Please people pay no attention to it. They are just trying to get hits.

[dachiefsman]

good lord....

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Shame their Life goes on in'it!!! ;-D

[Montrealien]

Juuken is just crazy today.

*hides behind chair*

;D

[Montrealien]

disagree? It's true, she is so mad it is kinda cute. I ♥ juuken, really.

[KBDuB]

Gaw damn. Girls got attitude problems. And, anger issues. Your not exactly an angel between this "console war" either, miss.

You need to calm down, seriously. Why you takin this sht so personal? If you can't understand that the fanboys on this site want attention so they act like assholes and dumbasses, then you need help.

Like people have said, it's the Open Zone. Say what you want, who cares?
And, if you can't handle the "pressure" or what not, then you need to go to the Gamer Zone, or take a break from this site..

[t-0_ot-]

@Juuken - Uhm, babe, wow.. no, uhm, seriously?

"You can't just let something go, oh no. You have to continue on with it like a couple of immature dikes." Do you ever stop being a hypocrite? You PS3 fanboy/girl still bring up the down time, for SOME users, of xBox Live during Christmas.. We STILL hear about that.

Don't let up? Why don't you do your part, and maybe others will start to follow.

Don't blame someone else when you also kicked the cow. =P

[Pain]

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[dro]

i can see a post coming up saying "y 360 achivments is better than the trophyes system" -_-

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I could see that post coming.. because they are. =)

[TheExecutive]

How, for the love of GOD, is acheivements better than Trophies? The Trophy concept is miles ahead of acheivements.

[JBaby343]

I'll take trophies but it's not like I'm going to get into a pissing contest with someone because they have a trophy I don't. Just play the games if you have trophies or achievements enjoy them as you get them. I got a few in SSHD and they're ok but now I'm like whatever. It's not like they mean something. Or do they?

[InMyOpinion]

To begin with, achievements are included and work with all 360 games, both arcade as well as retail. It's a dedicated feature unlike trophies that only work with selected games.

Another difference is that trophies(like everything else on PSN) requires patches. You have to download a patch for the game you want to use the trophies feature in.

Trophies also has a feature that tells you at what time you got your trophy, and gives you better stats the faster you aquired it. A feature that is useless since most games for the PS3 are not released simultaneously worldwide.

[Nitrowolf2]

in-game music with dvd/BD
that is pointless if you ask me
why the F would you want to be watching a movie and have music playing in it. That just stupid i want to watch the movie not listen to my stored music and hear absolutly nothing in the movie but the music.

[Enterprise-E]

If the author was trying to pass as a third grade student he succeded. There is so many false information in this article makes you wonder why they approved this in the first place? Also what did they expect this update to do everything right all at once?

Hell even the 360 has updates but they have not fixed the Aspect Ratio for those who use there PC monitor to play games but MS keeps telling us it is coming. THis article is an Epic Fail.

[jvillan]

The only lazy, incompetent software developers out there is...

You guessed right it's Sony. Sony's software department are terrible

[GiantEnemyCrab]

(cue Sanford and Son music)

Ghettooo wannabe

[juuken]

...You never let up, do you?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

haha. I saw your post and just had to add my smart azz comment.

Come on, we all know this article is fail so I'm just rubbing it in a bit. I know the PS3 fishheads wouldn't let it pass if it was something on XBL.

(just look at the douchebags 1.2 & 1.3 in the Gamer Zone not even in a anti-PS3 article can the 360 go unmentioned and uninsulted.)

@2.3: Damn Juuken, I agreed with you that the article was fail and you still get all p*ssed off. You need to take a break. Don't take my comments so seriously, I don't especially in the Open Zone. I do not want Sony out of the race because competition is good. Sony just send the ball back to MS's court after 2.4 and I am curious to see how/if they respond the way Sony has to MS. I'm rooting for the underdog here, Sony has proven itself in the console space and MS is still working on it.

[juuken]

Rubbing it in a little more? Wow, aren't you the sharpest f*cker on this site? That's the problem with you 360 fanatics. You honestly want to see Sony drop out of the gaming industry and fall flat on it's face. In fact, you were see gleeful that 2.4 had it's issues that you have to rub it in the faces of those who own PS3's when your own damn console had issues for two months.

Seriously, get the f*ck over yourself. I am sick and tired of your bullsh*t.

Let me just say something to you GiantEnemyTurd.

One of these days, you will look back on those words and regret them.

The PS3 will come up on top.

Mark my words.

Oh my goodness, disagrees! Wah, wah, I'm upset now!

[Bladestar]

Damn juuken you lost lots of bubble in one day... let it go man... 2.4 sucks mosquito balls.... All I have to say is look at my avatar...
Did you take your medication today? you sound like if you are about to have another episode...

[Montrealien]

my 2.4 works fine, great update and they will iron out the bugs, sh*t happens.

[t-0_ot-]

Ahaha BladeStar.. you're an asshole. =O

But, what can I say? Juuken sure deserves it. Give her hell. =)

Sorry Juuken, but you're just as bad as everyone else on this site, in the Open Zone that is.

[Awesomeo3000]

it wasnt a faliure its just everyone assumes that sony can just give us everything we ask and its not like that we have free online play everything else is a bonus

[packerfan80]

idk how many people will agree with me, but how can you complain that something is a failure when it's for free! who does he think he is, the only way you can complain at something that is for free is if it hurts you or ne thing in any way, this dude is dumb@ss

[Dannagar]

I love my Xbox 360 and Xbox Live. The Playstation 3 is kind of the red headed step child in my collection of video games. However, the PSN is making progress and I'm more interested in PS3 games than ever before. However that interest is pending the implementation of trophies.

Well, I've better get back to unlocking achievements in Ninja Gaiden II and Soul Calibur.

[themyk]

so basically this guy is just a whinny little b1tch. and he's going to b1tch about anything sony GIVES us. so lets move on.

[blu3flam3]

This update is already 2,5 years behind
so WELCOME TO THE NEXT GEN :)
ENJOY UR LAME UPDATE :)

[dro]

@blu3flam3, plss dont be a bias little fan boi, welcome to the next gen!!..haha go play MGS4 then u will know what next gen gaming is all about -_-

[jacktheripper]

u my little friend are one of the dumbest xbots i have ever met. Go f*ck your xbox some more dip sh*t.

[Foolsjoker]

Wow, this guy complain much?

People asked for In-game XMB, they get it....now they complain that it doesn't have cross gaming invites. Sorry your getting what you asked for...geeze. This article should read, Sony sucks because I love my 360. Why cant PS3 be a 360, WHY?

Well, because its a PS3....sorry its not a mirror image.

[FantasyStar]

..It's full of win.

[Devilbringer]

i do not think hes a fanboy of any part.

he do have some valid points, like him i ti was disapointed when i poped in mgs4 and was looking forward to hear my own soundtrack, then i got this message. This game is not suported for your music' or something like that. a weak moment for me ye :S

but ye we always could see that message when someone post you up in the cornor.

we could have gotton in-game XMB in dvd/Blu-ray that was kinda lazy not to apply. but i dont really care about that,

I just hope that the Developers starts rleasing those patch for IN-GAME XMB AND TROPHYS.

[blackboyunltd]

i wish everybody on n4g actually read the article like you did and give real responses and not the typical flames, thank you for that

[Foolsjoker]

I did read it...but the complaints are completely invalid or overblown. Such as:
"Launch directly into another game from the one you’re currently playing. At first I thought this might be from retail game to retail game. Without having to quit the game I’m in. Then eject then start another up. I was disappointed to discover that it was only going from PSN to retail and vice versa. Nice feature but for someone like me who rarely plays PSN games it was quite useless."

How do you jump from a Bluray game to another Bluray game? Does he have PS3 diskchanger? You have to take the Bluray out of your console and put the next one in (you dont have to quit, you can just eject and be taken to XMB), leave it on AUTOPLAY and amazingly enough it works.

[NeonSkull]

I keep hearing this a lot, but not having an 360 have no idea how it works. How is it different from me just sending a msg to a friend asking them to join a game?

update:
o the joy of google. looked up this "deal breaking" feature that i keep hearing 360 owners rave about.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/s...
unless i'm missing somthing this is basically just sending a msg to a friend.

[Foolsjoker]

It is the ability to send someone an invite, which when accepted will take that person INTO the game room you are in. Unlike a message where the person has to find your room and join you. In game messaging works all the same, but is just not as user friendly. I don't think people realize how difficult this will be on the PSN's setup as there are no unified servers it would have to be something to emplace in future DEV kits for future retail games to implement into their servers.

[bcash23]

They only thing I wanted more from was the in game music feature but they said it was gonna be what it was. As far as everything else ah I don't think he was on the right track. Hey i look at the bright side and i really like Sony they took it down are doing whatever they can to make it better right away thats good customer support. I don't know the numbers but they seem proactive to me.

[Lew_Ijgee]

He just got a PS3 this week. Some of the features he is complaining about were there long ago. If any has ever fully explored XMB they would know you can change wether or not message notifications were seen in-game/movie and so on.

[cliffbo]

enjoy prodding the dragon while it sleeps.

[clintos59]

Is considered a dumba$$ and a failure themselves. Reason I say this is because for all those times people brag about achievements and in game xmb is the reason worth paying for xbox live, I just dont see why idiots would say free features are a failure? I am using the 2.4 update right now and I am enjoying the feature of just being able to message friends while playing a game. Yes sony has some things to add in but why argue about it when u aint paying jack sh!t to use any of these features? I dont see how anyone can complain about this if it is free. Only people I can see making an arguement are damn fanboys who own a 360 and are bullsh!tting as if they have a ps3 and whining about the feature. Grow up and stop whining about sh!t and be happy for whatever system u have. If u hate that the feature is free and u have to pay for yours then buy a damn ps3, or just shut up and stay with one console and cry about it to MS why xbox live isnt free.

[Exile__]

All will be forgiven

[ikkokucrisis]

The words "never satisfied" comes to mind

[dkgshiz]

Who in gods name, has enough time to just sit around a complain about updates? I guess this Donnie B guy does. I Wonder if he has ever left his house before? Seriously dude, you need to find yourself a women or a career. Your life is headed straight into 50 years of living with your parents, and eating yourself to death from so many twinkies. How did the 2.40 update fail. It works perfectly for me. It may of had some bugs but their obviously going to get fixed very soon. Also, they are obviously going to keep updating the PS3! 2.40 isn't the last update douche!

[Ex The God]

To anyone asking why I am not going back and forth with the people posting paragraphs to hate on me. I don't want to waste my time arguing with fanboys. I'm not a fanboy and this is just my opinion. I'm not gonna argue with one angry ps3 nerd just so 70 others can jump on my back.

To anyone that has question about what I meant in the article. Feel free to PM me and I will answer any and all questions. Also..just because it's free doesn't mean it can't suck. I got Vampire Rain for free and if you say that is anything but a failure. Then you are a moron

[matchgrade]

Why is it that no matter what happens, someone always feels the need to complain? What happened to the good old days when people knew how to shut up and take it?

[red_ring_of_death]

i love 2.40 so far
its the xboxfangirls doing all the talk
maybe because its $50 year for something well be getting free

[Bladestar]

ohh I get it... because is free it can suck... mmm... I wonder.. when you go to a fast food restaurant... do you stuff yourself with ketchup because it's free or you actually "pay" for food?

And I don't even know what you are referring to... Genius... don't you know that all the features PSN is falling apart for are available for free on ALL silver accounts? what does Achievements, Gamescore, private chat, ingame custom music, messaging... hell you can even use Live messenger while playing a game... all these feature are available to everyone including those that don't have Gold account... ignorance... educate yourself...

@EDit:
"He just loves some bad PS3 news! " which happens to be every day... No but seriously... I enjoy more you SOny leg humpers reaction... I can careless about PS3's bad news... that's like getting excited every time the Sun comes out... in the desert..

[juuken]

Oh, look at Bladestar! He just loves some bad PS3 news! He loves rubbing his fat ass in it!

Seriously Bladestar, shut the hell up and get a life.

No kidding Homicide. He's one of the worst 360 fanatics I have ever seen on this site.

And PP_p, you were a failure ever since your mom dropped you on your f*ckin' head.

And GiantEnemyTurd, the reason why MS fixed the consoles for free is because of the fact they wanted to sweep the RROD under the rug. How is it that people have to send in their consoles two, three, or even five times for the same damn problem?

When my 360 bricks for the second time, I will get it fixed and sell it on EBay. But for now, I'll get it for the games I want. Don't act as if the 360 is HIGH AND MIGHTY when it has several issues as well.

Douchebag.

[Homicide]

I told you, he's a microsoft leg humper. He gets a hard on with negative PS3 news. The bots need it after the epic failures of Lost Odyssey and Ninja Gaiden II. Too Human is next.

[Bladestar]

"Lost Odyssey and Ninja Gaiden II" look at this MOJON! lol... you obviously have a very distorted understanding of what "Epic failure" actually means... let me guess... your parents reminds you all the time.

http://www.metacritics.com/...
78/100 - average user 8.4/10

http://www.metacritics.com/...
81/100 - average user 8/10

These games are practically B or A games...

let me show you what a Epic failure is:

http://www.metacritic.com/g...
55/100

http://www.metacritic.com/g...
53/100

HAHA! right.. kid... you have the whole "failure" vs success all screw up... tell your parents to stop abusing your emotionally or your will never be able to get a job.

And repeat after me... 80/100 game is not an EPIC failure...

50/100 is an epic failure....

[Homicide]

Wasn't Lost Odyssey supposed to be the FF killer? How much has it sold? What's the score compared to FF? Ninja Gaiden II was supposed to be the DMC killer? What happened? Its very funny how many of you bots called Motorstorm, HS and Warhawk failures when they outscored those games. Also, Haze, even if it flopped, at least helped the PS3 outsell the 360 in May :)

[Bladestar]

Once again... your intelligence show on this comment, "FF killer"... how can it be a FF killer when it came who knows how long before FF... do you have a release date for that game? This remind me of all the Kill Zone 2 vs Gears 1... how Kill Zone 2 was the Gears 1 killer and look... Gears 2 is about to be release... you speak of FF vs Lost Odyssey ... Yet a bunch of other JRPG games will be out before FF... how about Star Ocean... lol!

ohh and about "DMC killer" didn't that game come out on the xbox 360.. got better review.. and on top of it.. 0 installs... you just owned yourself... go back to the drawing board... you suck at dissing people..

"Haze, even if it flopped, at least helped the PS3 outsell the 360 in May :) " what does that tell you about the PS3... that's how hungry for good games Sony leg humper are... they would buy a flop.. at least is a game...

[Homicide]

I said FF killer, not FFXIII killer. Why haven't you compared FFXII with Lost Odyssey? FFX, FFIX, FFVIII, FFVII, FFVI? Compare sales and scores. Lost Odyssey still hasn't hit the million mark.

Both versions of DMC4 got the similar scores. I don't know why you're saying why the 360 got better scores. On PS3, you get faster load times and smoother framerate. People just prefer the PS3 :) Accept it.

[Montrealien]

I happen to love the FF series and can't wait for the coming sequels. I also happen to have been enjoying Lost odyssey, can't wait to find some time to finish it, great game.

If you are waiting for a game to kill another, you my friend need to get a life, we want more games, that is all. Lost Odyssey was a well received game that happened to sell a fair amount of copies. Just leave it at that. And I prefer my DMC4 on the 360, no, I won't accept your blatant stereotypes, you speak for no one but yourself...

[PoSTedUP]

it was a "start"- not a failure.

[MUNKYPOO]

some people will never be happy. we came a long way since the ps3 first came out. i guess they forget

[vilmer]

Definitely. It has certainly come a LONG way since launch and I've been very satisfied with the progress, especially for free.

[jvillan]

Sony sheeple, Someone please tell me why 2.4 doesn't allow me to do things that I could do on the Xbox almost 3 years ago.

Thats right November 2005

I could do the following:

1. In-game Voice chat
2. Cross-game invites
3. Access friends list while watching movies.
4. Voice messages
5. Text messages while in game.
6. Achievements(for all games)
7. Feedback on different users
8. IN-GAME SOUNDTRACKS for any game.

The list goes on...

Now,3 years later on PSN

1. No in-game Voice chat
2. No cross game invites
3. No voice messaging
4. No access to friends list while watching movies
5. Can do text messaging from in game
6. Trophies... FOR 1 GAME
7. Still no In-game soundtracks.
8. No feedback system for users.

How is this update not a failure? By the time sony has the features listed above, they will be over 3 YEARS LATE!!!

[Clinton514]

Deserves a decent answer. Go spam in the open zone kid.

[NeonSkull]

I just read your post on my ps3, pm me when you can do that on your 360.

[MUNKYPOO]

i guess you forget that microsoft makes software. so they know how to program those things and are good at it. at least sony is listening to what we want and slowly but surely adding features in for us.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

@9.2: I've been doing it on my 360 since launch. It's a nice little plug-in for MCE/Vista that allows you to actually integrate all Media Center functions into the 360.

Here is a video of it in action:

[Foolsjoker]

1. No in-game Voice chat
Hmm, odd maybe those voices i hear are in my head and not coming out of my bluetooth headset?

2. No cross game invites
This would be nice, but not lazy enough to complain about having to find a game myself.

3. No voice messaging
I have a 360 and rarely does anyone use this.

4. No access to friends list while watching movies
B/C I'm to busy staring at my a beautiful bluray movie to care whose online, or i just turn on my notifications like a smart boy.

5. Can do text messaging from in game
You mean Mail? You got me here, i could have swarn we can now send mail during games...but maybe im missing something.

6. Trophies... FOR 1 GAME
The service just started, also do you really want to talk about games when comparing the 360 vs the PS3. 360 has had the shoddiest lineup of games for 08...so man i hope you enjoy your "1 game" this year. =)

7. Still no In-game soundtracks.
Do you really need to listen to Sir Mix O'Lot when playing Metal Gear?

8. No feedback system for users.
They invented this thing called the internet a few years back, id recommend it.

[kewlkat007]

but it's not like he is lieing...bro

Nice reply but he has fact and you attempt "1 SPIN" for each...

Plenty are upset, this firmware is broken, it's somewhat half-assed, when Sony knows the most important thing to gamers.

Even the devs don't give a sh^t about patches and trophies for older games.

Plus everyone keeps saying Sony is listening, well no they are not, they come out with little half-assed firmwares to shut you up and continue the "work in Progress" PSN. Almost like a PLACEBO effect.

Sony knows what gamers want and knows wha tMS have had for a while, it's moreso they would like to give you the same thing as MS, it's not that they are listening to us giving them pointers about what MS always has.

[NeonSkull]

@12.4 so is this running totally off the 360 or do you have to have a connection to a pc in order for it to work cos i would hate to have to turn on my pc just to browse the web. Plus it took like 30 seconds to get the browser up, on ps3 I can do a google search in about 2 seconds.

[Foolsjoker]

@21.6
Actually, i use facts in a joking manner.
* There is in-game Voice Chat (Bluetooth).
* You can tell who is online while watching movies (Notifications).
* You can send messages from in-game (Mail).
* I do agree that the Trophy system is lacking at the moment, but that it just came out a few DAYS ago!
* You can give feedback, guess what we are doing now?

I do not state that he is wrong on some of the things, only that there are alternatives (joining a game yourself) or somethings are just reaching (voice message). The main one that i do agree would be In-game soundtracks, yet as MS has a patent on certain technologies it is a difficult endeavor i imagine.

[ParadoxicalAssassin]

bad article...i wish i bought a gun and knew the authors address...

[Ex The God]

South Florida.

and Jvillan. It isn't even about The xbox live experience being better than the PSN. It's about they made a big deal about this update and I was just extremly unimpressed. While some things did impress me a bit the majority of it was a failure to me

[MUNKYPOO]

ex who made a big deal about it? sony or people like you? they told us exactly what was going to be in the update. did you think there was going to be some hidden goodies in the update? to me they brought us exactly what they said they would.

[Pp p]

Hahahahahahah

[kingboy]

so was the red rings of death ..i pay 000.00$ for mine how much for yours?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

@6.1: Considering MS fixes all RROD for Free I would say about 00.00 dollars.

But for me considering I have the revised Falcon motherboard it hasn't even been an issue.

EDIT: Disagrees?

[why do droids cry]

lol @ your disagrees. serves you right for talking to this new fasinating species. you dont know how they react. well recent events show that they get in a disagreeing frenzy ad yell trumendos bull sh1t about anything that doesn't go hand in hand with their god they cal PHONY

[dro]

this update is not a faliure, how can somethin that makes ur ps3 have new features be a faliure..yes u may argue that sony should have done this when they lunched the ps3 but u can also argue late is better than never!..people always find something negative to say, i just dont know y (-_-)

[Rice]

Well since that his opinion...that 2.40 is a failure..my opinion is that 2.40 is a success...

[NickCarter08]

where is the support for trophies?? Just 1 Game?? The Update sucks until no more games support trophies.

That's my opinion

edit: I'm not a fan boy, i have wii, PS3, 360 and DS (Just in Case)

[Clinton514]

But there's some straight up bogus info in that blog.

[eagle21]

2.4 rocks, and it's FREE and will improve. Trophies are better than a stupid score.

The 6 million active gold live accounts prove no one is paying for that nickle and dime, over rated garbage. :)

9.8 million users play for FREE. ;)

[GiantEnemyCrab]

LOL@Your numbers. haha how many RROD's are happening since the Falcon revisions were released last year? You argument is getting old. Just the fact you are in here spouting 360 propoganda shows this article has touched a nerve in you.

you better watch out.. =)

[eagle21]

Only 6 million are "active" as in are currently "paying and renewing their service".

No one I know is renewing that over rated service.

You guys should try and take some complaints to Microsoft about banning BIGOTS and getting some dedicated servers.

Oh wait..they will tell you to all "go kick rocks". Sony and fans are working hard and asking for features to make PSN better and FREE. You and Microsoft are working overtime to make sure gamers keep PAYING.

I wish Live gets increased to $100 a year. See what you will say then. No make it $300 per year with a Wii avatar thrown in..lol

DUMB ASS IDIOTS! :)

[tordavis]

Eagle won Fanboy Of The Week. Now you know why.

[eagle21]

Get a life.

This guy wrote me a PM that basically had everything that I ever said (it was all true) that made him feel insecure. So weak.

You are weak just like most xbots. Can't even ask for a better cheaper service. Scared of what Microsoft might do? Are you the customer? Or are they the customer?

Go kick rocks. You stay the hell away from my posts. Giantenememy crabs, lachance, POG, Tor Davis, ppp, etc. are all fanboys that accuses anyone that even says the word Sony a fanboy. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Get a life, I told you about my credentials. They don't get any better than that buddy!

[Montrealien]

Micheal Patcher? pls

And when you show both numbers, all I see is almost 20 million people with online profiles on both consoles when just 7 years ago we where wondering where online gaming would go, now we know. And your still hiding your PSN fanboy of the week? In fear of being harassed by losers like myself? lol

And get off your high horse mr eagle, fans of both consoles, and normal people like myself want both systems to be improved and have better features, we want them competing to keep bettering themselves so our industry will flourish and the consumers are the ones that will reap the benefits of this kind of competition, not have one ruling supreme console. You speak like PS3 owners are above others, you have no grasp on gaming culture, just fanboy stupidity in comments sections and forums, that my friend is not real life.

[eagle21]

What was up with your first part? I never said anything to you! Wait, are you and torrence davis the same person? Or are you la chance? Or ppp? POG? I might be on to something here.

The second part made good sense montrealien. I am glad you want improvements to both services. That was what my whole post was about. PSN fans seem to be willing to address issues. Live people act as if everything is perfect. IGN even pointed out Live's flaws and is getting more and more excited for PSN. But your little petty insults at the very end I will ignore for now. ;)

The chain-gang: Giantenemycrab, torrence davis, etc. I will never change my views for anyone of you. You both have xbot lifetime memberships on N4g! :)

[freeluv]

this bugs me and let me tell you why. Sony did not leave anything up for expectation on this update. they gave us a video walkthrough and explained which features the update would entail. they didn't leave anything up for imagination. they told us that in game music wasn't going to be available from day one, just that it was laying the groundwork for it. we can't honestly expect for just one magical update to include everything we've ever wanted from a firmware upgrade. the console has a lifespan and their trying to extend it as far as possible. i just wish someone would write an article thanking Sony for listening to us at all. they know what we want, and they're working on it. 2.40 was a huge step toward that direction. I am grateful.

[dkgshiz]

Yeah, you can download crap with the silver membership. You cant play online though you moron! So whats the F-ing point of the silver membership if theirs no online? How is PSN falling apart? Its really good. I guess you wouldn't know though. Your 360 is too precious. Thats why you ram it up the butt every night :) Plus ketchup is free douche. That would be pretty funny to pay for ketchup. Unless you live in a 3rd world country than you mite have to pay for ketchup.

[Not the Face]

yeah but his post makes sense yours does not. learn to read.

[Pp p]

Hahahahaha

[Montrealien]

you don't even try anymore....

*cry*

[BrianC6234]

These crybabies are really annoying. They beg Sony for features for a year. Then they finally get the features and buh, it could be a lot better. It could do this or that. Well, if Sony wanted to delay the update another six months maybe they could have added a lot more features. But sometimes you do the most important features and release it. Then you work on the next update and keep adding to it. We're lucky the PS3 is so easy to update.

[xg-ei8ht]

In the next 360 update, apparently users are asking for blu-ray playback, folding@home, MGS4.

Opps it's not going to happen.

[dro]

games coming out in the future will have xmb and trophyes, devs are working on other titles thats y they could not work on a patch write now.the update only came out yesterday and every one expects sony to throw them with things like that, be patient. the future is bright with this update, in one month time if nothing happens about trophye support and in game xmb then u can bash it all u want but write now it is to early to trash talk.

[digger18]

This sh*t is getting out of hand again. It reminds me of the last 2 years when the fu*king 360 fanboys wouldn't let up and now its starting again.

Fu*king grow up the lot of you. It seems like the 360 fanboys are jealous or something and they have to rip apart everything Sony. Get a fu*king life sad ass wipes.

[belal]

remember when your XBL got shut down for two weeks ?`right after New year ?. that is what i call FAIL. this update can be fixed. just like your XBL POS can be fixed

[why do droids cry]

xbox live was never shut down for 2 weeks. yes people had problems with it. i for one had problems for a week. we all got a free game from microsoft so at least they tried make up for the problem.

and just because you get an update that adds a few good features *good* features does not somehow make xbl crap. XBL IS THE MOST UNIFIED ONLINE GAMING SERVICE IN THE WORLD AND YOU DROIDS CAN NOT ADMIT THAT. the day you admit that the day most xbox fans will admit psn is not a bad service. i am gonna say it: psn is a good service. are you to scared to admit that about xbl. or are you still a chicken

[PimpHandHappy]

hey i can text cross game now! Whatever else you have to say is just plain fanboy flame

it took MS 5years to make XBL

Sony will match it in 2

and thats a fact chumps!

[PimpHandHappy]

2 see ppl like bladestar and PPp talking about something they have never used!

they dont even own a PS3 and yet here they are. Telling us why 2.40 was a failure

it would be funny if it wasnt so sad

[Says you]

In so many levels.

[n00bzRtehgey]

unlike u, other people have used a 360 before. this update is a total failure, just like your beloved console.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

what the hell? the 4th one saying that it doesnt let you know when you get a message while in-game, uh yes it does. it tells you who sent it and it comes up on the top right. must have his notifications turned off

wow some of these are BS

[Polluted]

I stopped reading at speak my *peace*. Idiot.

[Clinton514]

Too funny.

[Tempist]

Somebody call the wambulance for this gentleman.

Granted, had they never given these features (which have been requested for almost 12 months) then he would have continued to complain about the lack of these features.

[dachiefsman]

The Open Zone reminds me of reality TV. I don't know why I read/watch but on some bizarre level it entertains me.

[eagle21]

It seems Sony and it's fans are working hard and asking for features to make PSN better and FREE. Sony is doing one hell of a job. And PSN fans are not afraid to ask which is excellent. Trophies pwn numeric scores any day!

While Microsoft and their fans are making sure that gamers keep paying for a service that should be FREE. They need dedicated servers. They need to ban racist bigots. They need to make live cheaper. But just keep feeding their machine. I wish they announce that live will be $30 more at E3!

Only 6 million or so are actually active on live with gold accounts. That is a failure.

PSN has 9.8 million gamers playing for FREE in 1.5 years. Wake up.

[kewlkat007]

So xbox fans are making sure other fans are paying for live? haha, How old are you really?

Do you ever read what you actually type?

So it's a conspiracy Xbox 360 fans have against each other...that's new.

[eagle21]

Do you ever reply to anyone else but me? You are lame.

I know I am smarter than you. Graduated at the top of my class from a highly prestigious University. You are only trying to insult me because you are lame.

You know exactly what I mean. Microsoft and it's little 6 million gold accounted fans are trying to make it so that gamers have to keep paying for online. You guys sure aren't helping anything. Not even asking for improvements.

While PSN fans are getting more features that are better (trophies). We are not afraid to ask either. All in the hope that the service will remain FREE. Go read IGN impressions of 2.4 and cry to them. :)

[kewlkat007]

Your the one that wrote it, I just quoted ya.

So you think 6 million xbox fans want MS to keep charging them and others so it can never be free? hehe

Those xbox fans you talk of, pay for the service because they happen to like it. If not they would of gotten a PS3 and go on PSN for free. But I know they would be missing plenty of simples things they have gotten accustomed to.

I actually rather Achievements, since I'm so used to them but it doesn't matter. The trophy idea to me is like old-school. My Xbox 360 been doing stuff my Ps3 still have not getting fully. It's easy for me to compare, unlike you.
MS don't force anybody to pay for their service. Plenty of competition out there...plenty of choices...buddy

[eagle21]

I shouldn't bring up education to someone who insults me and asks how old I am?

Someone sure doesn't like that topic. It's usually the ones who are a little insecure. I hope I have made myself clear to you. I will continue to bring up education if you keep trying to be a "smartass" even though your obviously NOT!.

If 360 fans don't wake up fast, PSN will be 20 million users while 360 will maybe grow to 8 million gold accounts. You should be part of the crowd that is for improving a FREE service: PSN. Cause what do people get on live? $50 taken out of their account for not much of anything more than a PSN user gets for FREE. :)

[kewlkat007]

I was quoting your words, I don't really give a hoot about your degrees and eduction and all that mess, that's a different subject. I'm a Networks Engineer, I do pretty well, I'll leave it at that.

I'm glad for you and your education, want a cookie?

Like I said you wrote it and it makes no sense so I called you out...

moving on..

[Montrealien]

Mr eagle said..

(I know I am smarter than you. Graduated at the top of my class from a highly prestigious University. You are only trying to insult me because you are lame.)

Someone with that kind of education would never stoop so low as to say something like that and would not even bother imho. And mostly people that are young and immature think that being asked how old they are is insulting. 2.4 is great, and I don't mind paying for my Live account. sh*t happens.

just my 2 cents

[eagle21]

You have some nerve. You want immature?

This was an A and B conversation, why did you C your way into it?...lol

You nor kewlkat added anything but insults. I can say whatever I want to someone who tries to insult me. This wasn't the first time kewlkat. You know it too!

@montrealien, You would be surprised at what people with my level of education or way higher will do or say to "smartasses". You want me to take you to my favorite club this weekend? LOL

@montrealien. There is no damage control that needs be done. What's your point? You didn't say anything to kewlkat about insulting me. Both of you can go get a room for what I care.

Back on topic: I still feel exactly the same about PSN and Live. :)

[Montrealien]

I put my C in because I can? Where do you think you are, this is a comments section on a news for gamers website and the minute someone adds their 2 cents you get all defensive.

And how exactly did he insult you? I read his comments twice and still can't see this insult you speak of. I like you, you seem ok, even though you are fanboy of the week with a higher education ;D You're a little to defensive though.

And as for your favorite club offer, Sure, you live in Montreal? Give me you PSN and we can figure out where we can meet up.

[kewlkat007]

but clearly, if you do not care about the other video/photo..etc updates then this firmware is broken.

Almost like Sony released it and Devs were in the grey about it. Like they had no real answers for the old games and trophies and the patches.

"We'll get to it when we do. Now stop bothering us."

[Crazywhitie]

hey thats what you get for FREE.... if anything is Good it cost.... The Only thing My PS3 has over my xbox 360, is the Built in Dust Collector.. Amazing Sony lol... yet people still follow you guy is beyond me

[cockxxx]

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[Irishrocket69]

You took the words right out of my mouth!

[SADIST]

Yeah, I gotta admit, Xbox live is far ahead of the PS network. Yeah the network is free, but live is only $50 a year. If you can't afford that then how do you buy $60 games? Every cross platform game released is played on my xbox, especially online games. I don't care what anyone states, everyone knows online games are hell of a lot better played on live than the PS network.

[cockxxx]

should had paid microsoft to help them with there online service;)

[Montrealien]

someone is paying you to have all these fake accounts whoever you are.

[Hercules]

with some good points...i wouldnt say the update is a failure, more of a still-in-process thing...i like it, yeah maybe i cant play music and earn trophies, but i at least i can send messages, change bluetooth on the fly, and many others...i say conragts to sony for AT LEAST TRYING to make its fans happy, everything isnt perfect, but at least their TRYING...so give them their props when props are due...and again great article

[Crazywhitie]

I believe This wasn't going to happen until home came out, but everybody started cry and sony just said here you go, thats why it's so off from what they said it was going to be and not many Devs are backing it, How can you put out Trophies and have no one back it lol.. thats a joke, we got the trophies icon is what we got, I'll break down and play a game on the PS3 for a trophy and they need to be able to go and see what you have done, there is Know way I'm playing Haze again, That game was straight Junk. I did beat it on hard in abe 4 hrs but it was a waste... like most ps3 game

[Lumbo]

Lets be fair and rate, step by step why the Author (while trying to get hits for his rather shallow blog) is a failure:

(beware wall of text regarding custom soundtracks)

((i added the whole text so people do not need to visit the blog and generate advertcash for the author))

########## Start of original blogpost #################
In-game XMB

Now this is not just something that everyone on PSN wanted, it is something that PSN needed. I mean to be honest I don’t see how this wasn’t included in the launch. I am glad I can use this now. But we still can’t do cross game invites which is a big letdown.

View Game-Specific Trophies
Like Xbox 360s Achievement system. A great idea. I’m a big Achievement whore and that fuels my gaming needs. It gives you a sense of accomplishment. I already accomplished a lot. But I guess Sony thinks I don’t deserve trophies for the games I’ve already completed seeing as Trophies aren’t retroactive.

Time/Date display
This is something that should have just came with the system. I honestly don’t see why this was shown off as a main feature. Although it is nice to finally have a time display on my PS3 this comes a little too late.

Send text messages to PSN users on your friends list
I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a message in game that was important and didn’t know because it doesn’t show you when you get a message in game. This (along with the In Game XMB obviously) are the biggest features for me in the update

Access accessory settings, such as Bluetooth pairing and voice changer
I did some research and found out this was helpful to very few people. I’d have to agree. Maybe the voice changer is pretty helpful but pretty much I found this to be the least useful part of the update.

View and manage downloads
I know I’m not the only one that got tired of having to wait for downloads to finish when they could be playing a game. I’m glad they added this so I can finally play Metal Gear Solid 4 and watch my Demo, add on, PSP etc downloads.

Quit game directly from an icon under the “Game” section of the XMB
So, basically the same as holding down the PS button and going to quit game. Not really that big of a deal in my honest opinion.I do not see why they advertised this as a main feature of the update.

Search the web using the Google Search option under “Network”
I liked being able to do this. So I don’t have to go to the browser, then put in Google then search. It’s a lot faster for me. May not be a big deal to some but to others (like myself) it is.

Launch directly into another game from the one you’re currently playing
At first I thought this might be from retail game to retail game. Without having to quit the game I’m in. Then eject then start another up. I was disappointed to discover that it was only going from PSN to retail and vice versa. Nice feature but for someone like me who rarely plays PSN games it was quite useless.

Play music tracks stored on the HDD (in games that support this feature)
Okay, Now I was really excited for this. Thought I could run around blasting some of my favorite songs while blasting soldiers and bosses in MGS4. Popped in MGS4 and instantly my hopes were crushed like Godzilla wreaking havoc on Japan. I guess there will be one day for when I can use this happily but for now I am disappointed.

Now I’d like to talk about something that kind of bugged me about the update. This quote game straight from PSN Director, Eric Lempel.

Will In-Game XMB come up during playback of PS2 games, Blu-Ray discs, and DVDs?
Eric said that “The XMB is an exclusive feature for PS3 game titles. Accessing the XMB during gameplay was the top request from our users” and “However, we continually engage PS3 owners for feedback and will evaluate the opportunity to offer XMB access during movie playback in the future.”

Now I honestly think they could have gone that extra mile and done at least DVD/Blu Ray XMB. PS2 I see no point but not having XMB in the movies is kind of lazy in my eyes.

Closing Statement:

All in all I was impressed but I was unimpressed by the new firmware update. The pros don’t outweigh the cons.So that’s really why I think it was a “failure”.

######### end of original blogpost ##############

* In-game XMB
Ingame XMB is NOT a "PSN" feature, Please, if you so obviously fail to know even the BASICS spare us your blabber, The PSN, as in PlaystationNetwork, is a free network to play games against other users and to buy stuff online in the store for the PS systems that use it.

Ingame XMB was the main thing people asked for, and not because they wanted the nice interface, but because they wanted to access THE FRIGGIN TEXTMESSAGES. And guess what .. that part works without a flaw ..
And explain how something that was NEVER said to be there can be a "letdown" by not being there?
Following your logic the PS3 not being able to drive my car or do my laundry with fw2.4 is a big letdown... huh ? It is a letdown when something that was offered is NOT there, not when you do your best to find anything that might not be included and whine about it not being there. If you want to know what a letdown is, look at your blog, thats a perfect example.

* View Game-Specific Trophies

Thats exactly right, you don't deserve anything considering your bad article, but for once use the grey gibbery stuff that somehow ended up in the hollow shell that is sitting on top of your neck: The Ps3 allows you to store and load your savegames to backup them. The Trophys are awarded as you play. What would have stopped other nerds like yourself from loading fully played savegames from the net to cheat the trophy into the account? Exactly, nothing.

* Time/Date display

Sorry? People ASKED for this and Sony told them they consider it if its no biggy to implement, and voila, they did, its also working .. What is your problem with Sony delivering on their promise to include this? Ah, i see, you couldn't find something real to whine at .. thats different, you are excused, but please spare the above 10IQ people your articles in future.

*Send text messages to PSN users on your friends list

Epic Fail here, You where able to get a "new message" pop-up in the right upper corner from day one, strange how you whine about something missing that is already THERE. Better luck with the trolling next time.

* Access accessory settings, such as Bluetooth pairing and voice changer

You did some research? Really, after your research with the new message indicator you have to excuse me for not believing that. What research did you do? Did you manage to find the fact that the voicechanger was already PRESENT since 2.2 ? Or was your research more in the line of "lemme thing what i can make up now to make a negative statement"

Fact is: it is a good thing people can now access the HEADSET settings ingame. Before that you had to leave the game to activate your bluetooth headset, something that annoyed lotsa people with headsets. Now you can do it from within the game, great i say, but your "research" was certainly more professional and founded on facts , right?

View and manage downloads

* The downloads, like the new messages (in case you also missed this feature present since a year ago) would inform you after being completed with a popup indicator in the upper right screen corner .. you know, the corner where all the informative popups show, the ones you so far managed to overlook. the ones you not only overlooked but whined at not being there ... welcome to last year. Adding the Download manager is a nice touch, but not actually critical.

* Quit game directly from an icon under the “Game” section of the XMB
Its a replacement for the old "quit game" option of the popup menu that was replaced by Ingame-XMB, its NOT a mayor feature, Its just mentioned so you don't look and search the old option.

* Launch directly into another game from the one you’re currently playing

Oh bother, seriously, do you actually stop to think before you write your trash? Naturally you can only start directly into a game that is INSERTED IN THE DRIVE or located on the HDD. The PS3 can not know what games you have sitting on your shelf. Stop mixing up the features with made up fantasy features you put in place of the list Sony released.

*Play music tracks stored on the HDD (in games that support this feature)
There is your main whine. And unlike the rest of your garbage i can at least somewhat understand your frustration. But there is absolutely NO WAY Sony could have done this different. I'll elaborate:

Myth 1) Microsoft does NOT hold a PATENT on the ingame music as regularly falsely stated by people with close to zero knowledge of the patent system. Microsoft has filed an APPLICATION for a patent for it. The Patent though has NEVER been granted. Thats why the patent file does not hold an Patent issue number nor a date when the patent has been issued. Therefor there is NO patent granted = no patent.

Myth 2) But but but the Xbox360 OS enabled that without any games needing patches. WRONG, that feature was a LAUNCH feature of the Xbox360 OS. And imho a very good feature, shame that the PS3 only gets it now. But as it was there from the beginning you naturally need no patches, as all games are FORCED to support it. Same with the Achievements. You can not release a game on the 360 without supporting this feature, hence no one needs a patch. But if the xbox360 would NOT have had this feature from start, the titles released BEFORE the feature would also need patching to support it.

Why is that so?

Thats actually quite easy to understand: Ask yourself this: How would Sony be able to decide what part of the audio stream send from the game to the audio chip is music? The games so far only send a MIX of sfx and music to the io-chip. therefor you can NOT magically mute only the music part of it and keep the sfx part to play another music instead. It is not possible without a fixed api in place to handle the music to sfx mix. As of FW2.4 Sony has introduced a new API that handles the mix of music to sfx in the games. By that they will be able to mute the music on FUTURE games that use the provided api and insert other music there (i.e. the music YOU select from the HDD)

Don't believe it? just RECORD the output of a game on a PC, music and sfx mixed. Then try to remove only the music parts in the resulting audio file ... its impossible as the two are merged to ONE sound. You would also tamper with the sfx. Or maybe something you can try in your kitchen: take 2 cans, one with water, one with orange juice and one empty. Now pour juice and water into the empty can... the result is a) gross, and b) impossible to separate into just the water or just the orange juice. But if you add a main handler BEFORE you mix the stuff, like making it possible to switch the orange juice with lets say cherry juice you can now select what to drink, watered down orange juice or your own custom cherry juice.

Thats exactly what Sony added in the 2.4 firmware. A common library to handle ingame music for games. If devs use that library instead of their own developed ones you will be able to play your own music aka custom soundtrack.

So the firmware delivered exactly as stated before and still it is a "failure" when the most asked for features all got included(the ones that are possible at least)

The only thing thats missing now is cross-game invites via messages and ingame voicechat to friends. And the latter was already mentioned by Sony as being looked at.

Sadly N4G is seemingly flooded by people with low journalistic skills who only submit their flamebait blogposts to generate traffic for their sites. And sadly the flamebait not-news get approved by the usual people who yearn to approve anything negative for systems they don't own.

Like most users who have 2.4 i am more than happy that it has the features that where told to be included. Cause the features include the ones most people wanted to get. Ingame textmessages, "trophys" and the possibility for standard custom soundtracks in future games.

[jlytle1234]

right on. they added more features and did it for free and there are more to come.

[Real gamer 4 life]

For me is the samething, As long as i get to play with my friends online i am good. in game xmb was a success to me cause now i can message a friend and tell him to join my room. So i am good.

[n00bzRtehgey]

-PS3 in a nutshell.

"But we still can’t do cross game invites which is a big letdown."

--lmfao.

"But I guess Sony thinks I don’t deserve trophies for the games I’ve already completed seeing as Trophies aren’t retroactive."

--lmfao.

"Although it is nice to finally have a time display on my PS3 this comes a little too late."

---HAhaahHAHAhah WTF? a FW update to show a CLOCK? LMFAO! TEH CELL!!!!!!!

"I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a message in game that was important and didn’t know because it doesn’t show you when you get a message in game."

--LMAO. Got some geniuses over there at sony. "derrrr, let's make an overhyped movie player, then make it so you can't check your messages without exiting your games. then maybe we'll fix that in an update. derrrr"

"So, basically the same as holding down the PS button and going to quit game. Not really that big of a deal in my honest opinion.I do not see why they advertised this as a main feature of the update."

--lmao. TEH CELL!!!!!!!!!

"Thought I could run around blasting some of my favorite songs while blasting soldiers and bosses in MGS4. Popped in MGS4 and instantly my hopes were crushed like Godzilla wreaking havoc on Japan. I guess there will be one day for when I can use this happily but for now I am disappointed."

---So much for in-game music streaming.

"Now I honestly think they could have gone that extra mile and done at least DVD/Blu Ray XMB. PS2 I see no point but not having XMB in the movies is kind of lazy in my eyes."

---HAHAHahAHAhahah FOR REAL, SONY? HAHAHAHAHAH. WOW, YOU GUYS SUCK.

-final proof 360 had all this and more from launch 3 years ago. no wonder why I still don't want a PS3. maybe when the next FW update comes around? :)

[Kami]

how does cum taste like?
because i know that you guys have been sucking M$ d1ck!

[trancefreak]

hats off too u man :)

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

I think their upset Bill Gate$ has gone!!! ;-D

[jlytle1234]

it makes perfect sense for trophys not to be restroactive. so you cant go on gamefaqs and download a bunch of save files and get a tone of trophys without doing anything. that makes sense. It also adds some replay value to your older games.
Its easy to be some guy writing some article and complain that everything wasnt exactly how you wanted it. But when you have to actually design how it works and understand its limitations then you can talk about it. How can you cry about not having ingame music supported immediatley when you dont understand how custom ingame music is incorportated into games.
Why is everyone so quick to criticize? They said this is the first phase of their planned additions. That means more to come.
Stop taking 2.4 and comparing it to xbl. Its going to take more than one update to get all the features sony has planned to work properly.
And never forget this is all free.

[trancefreak]

I got what I expected from 2.40 which is a huge successful upgrade and i know i will get more features in the future. Why?? Because the ps3 can do this.

To the noob author of this story got get yourself a cookie you winey punk.

[titntin]

Its a sucess, in that its introduced some much needed features that people have been asking for.
Theres nothing been taken away, and we have extra features, many of them cool, how could anyone class that as failure?
No one promised it would bring world peace or halt global warming - it just added a bit more fuctionality to an already cool OS, so there no point in moaning 'yeah but it doesn't make my coffee for me'. LAME

If you need to point a finger and level some critism, its fair to give it some flak because some people have problems installing it. When I choose to install a OS update, I do so fully expecting that the company has a rock solid QA testing department, and that I'm not going to destroy my console. Given how long people have waited for these features anyway, a more thourough test before releasing it in the wild would be better!!

But the functionality is great - I enjoyed what I had, and they made it better. Whats not to like? Looking foward to some more games getting trophies - I've got three on SSD HD, but its rock hard that game, and I doubt I'll get more!

[gnothe1]

im glad this update is rubbish an then again im not!! im glad, because now you sony only fanboys can shut up about once update 2.4 comes out XBL will be history an the PSN will be ON PAR or BETTER than XBL all while being FREE. but then im not because MY PS3 still cant do all the things I take for granted on my 360!! this guy makes some good point but you guys wanna dismiss anybody that calls sony out on its missteps. I understand MS is a software company an sony is a hardware company an it SHOWS. 360 has sucky hardware(RROD) an the PS3 has sucky software(PS3 OS, PSN) but their both getting better!!

I can be watching a movie an if a friend wants to private chat or send a voice or text chat I dont have to leave my movie to check it, the same with games. I can be playing bioshock an if a friends wants to video chat, i just accept the chat it pauses my game an goes into video chat, when im done it takes me back into my game where i left off.

if im playing Gears of war an get an invite to play COD4 all i have to do is accept the invite an put the COD4 disc an the 360 handles the rest, why cant i do these thing on my PS3 2 years later!!

I can start up to 6 downloads on my 360 an put the system on standby an it will finish downloading then shut off, if I start a download on my PS3 an go to bed when i wake up the next morning it will still be on an if I dont turn off the controller it will be dead. theres no auto off on the PS3 controller, but there is on the 360 controller.

EDIT: just curious, why the disagrees. I didnt LIE an I didnt try an portray the PS3 in a negative light, I just stated thing that I can an cant do on the systems!!

[athlon770]

This is deffinatly an improvement over many of your other posts. And the dissagrees are probably people that know your writting style and just ignore what you say and hit the dissagree out of habbit. :)

But you are right with everything you posted there, and I liked this statement the most...

"I understand MS is a software company an sony is a hardware company an it SHOWS. 360 has sucky hardware(RROD) an the PS3 has sucky software(PS3 OS, PSN) but their both getting better!!"

...This statement is something that I myself have written and despite the fact that you and I are normally on opposite sides of the fence it is nice to see someone else saying it other than me.

However, I dissagree with you including this statement in your example...

" can start up to 6 downloads on my 360 an put the system on standby an it will finish downloading then shut off, if I start a download on my PS3 an go to bed when i wake up the next morning it will still be on"

...The reason is because this was a feature that MS added two updates ago and was not included with the original system. Since we are focusing our discussion to the latest firmware update to the Sony system to bring it up to snuff with what we enjoy with our 360's from day one, its my opinion that we stick with the basics.

The ending of that same paragraph however, that I like...

"an if I dont turn off the controller it will be dead. theres no auto off on the PS3 controller, but there is on the 360 controller."

...I couldn't agree more, even watching a movie or two, if I forget to turn the controler off = grrrrrrr!

Anyway, I agreed with your post for the most part and as such I gave you an agree.

[ParadoxicalAssassin]

Don't mean to sound like a 1970's peace making, hippie, on crack, but there is too many people arguing on these posts. The author like many others, clearly wants to get everyone's attention to read his article, These authors(unlike the decent ones) IMO are "fanning the flames".

"A discussion is an exchange a intelligence, An argument is an exchange of ignorance."-said by someone i can't remember.

I made myself look like enough of a loser today eh.

w/e i liked the update.

[Solid_Snake666]

butt a B**CH ask him how many times he had to return his xbox 360 to M$ ...about 8

[PSWe60]

than the BOTS?

2.40 works for me, no problems, I already have a few tropihes. I'm happy.

Of course the Bots are going to comment about this, they wrote the book on FAILURE. the 3rd60 fails, they fail and they're always going to try to prove otherwise.

[Solid_Snake666]

said XMB it here now what more do u want in game voice chat ...u ask for too much when we get all that you will probably be asking for something ridiculous like going i the TV and playing

[Pp p]

Failure Failure Failure Failure Failure Hahahahahaha

[slave2Dcontroller]

2.40 JUST came out and its already a Fail? Puhleeze. It hasnt even taken full form yet. Imsomniac and other devs should stop work on Resistance to and COD5 to add Trophies right? Tsssk. Future games will be making good use of In Game XMB in due time. And as far as the complications go... a patch is on the way.

We asked for it and they(Sony) gave it to us. They cant make devs do sh%t and with E3 coming up I'm sure alot of devs hands are tied eith getting their product ready for viewing and playing at the big show which is probably why they said no, otherwise I dont think they would have mind. But expect great things in the near future.

Sony has a very close knit relationship with its community. Really the best I've seen. Just go to your respective region playstation3 board and you will see that they actually hear and respond to what we say and gives us alot of things we ask for.

That is all.

[Darkfiber]

The opinions of a raving fanboy isn't news. It's the developers' fault for not adding trophies, not sony.

I am disappointed by the in-game music feature that doesn't actually work, everything else is a step in the right direction

[aiphanes]

There was just too many impatient people out there that forced sony to deploy it too early. At least 2.40 is a good base for the future upgrades from here.

[Old Snake]

The problem with this article was that he was one of the morons hyped for it. It is a firmware update what did you expect. Retard, getting hype is stupid for an update. Seriously what was he expecting to do pop in a game and then use the in-game xmb for nothing other than the purpose that it is possible to do. They said it would be a while for trophies. This is ridiculous, people were wining and complaining for it, then when you got it you complain some more. STFU!

[jif86]

2.40 = the start of a revolution. Key word mofo's - START

XBOX LIVE HAS BEEN OUT FIVE YEARS YOU DUMB INBRED CUNTS

SONY WILL PISS ON YOU AND YOUR FAILURE OF A CONSOLE FROM A GREAT HEIGHT WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE, SO GO AND HAVE SEX WITH YOUR OWN SISTERS YOU MINDLESS TWATS, WHILST YOU'RE WAITING TO HAVE YOUR RROD FIXED, I'LL BE PLAYING MY PS3.

P.S. PSN IS FREE, I AM $50 RICHER THAN YOU, AND I DONT GET CALLED A NIGGER F4GGOT C0CKSUKING ASS BISCUIT EVERY TIME I GO ONLINE ON PSN.

[Irishrocket69]

Maybe not yet, but wait until all of the hate you spew finally spills out online!

[Marojado]

over opinionated bellends giving their two cents in blog-like posts shouldn't be posted as news. The fact most of his arguments are "it's coming too late" or "it should have been a feature from the start" kind of defeats the point of the update... Likewise, people who read this and decided to retort with "Buh buh, RROD" need to grow up. It's childish, and microsoft have pretty much sorted this out. Everyone i know with a 360 have had no trouble. Likewise, as a PS3 owner and one of a fair few amongst my friends, we've had no trouble with this update. I welcomed it with open arms. Me and my housemates purchased one of the big 3 each and have had nothing but enjoyment from day 1. I guess we're either just really lucky or fanboy bias blows small issues out of proportion. Phew, glad i got that out of my system. *Dons flame shield* :)

P.S. i'm aware of the irony that i myself am being an over opinionated bellend by posting this :P

[Ri0tSquad]

Sony gave us, you, and many what we wanted (in-game XMB) and yet it's a failure? I'm surprised they gave us more then messaging. Everyone is surprised the entire XMB is still up there. Quit cryinggg.

[mariusmal]

he's in his right to say this. everyone of us uses the dashboards in diferent ways and prefer some features to anothers. in this guy case, he just felt that his favorite features were lacking.
i was hyped with the custom music. i'm one of thoses who love to play forza2 with custom soundtrack

[Xlll]

I don't see any problems with 2.40. Frankly i'm happy with it. More extras i ain't paying for and isn't riddled with ads. How does it feel to have to pay for things like this bots and be smacked in the face with ads? No cross game invites? Booo hooo? type a msg saying join me in CoD4 or MGS4 online. Is that really hard? Are you that lazy? This is a start. Unlike 3fixme we get more then one update a year. Maybe you all should be worrying about that 10 hr rgp that was 10 years in the making lol. Or waiting for your Mii's. I love how bots need to nit pick something like a bug in a update when MS is known to release everything loaded with bugs and issues. Windows and RRoD are a fine example of this. Go back to your NG2 20 fps and buy that addon tutu.

@juuken Relax this is only a start and a good one at that. You can relax knowing we don't pay month of Ad and lag riddled service and cheap pages. +bubbles for you.

[bizzyb0t]

This Donnie B. Darko is a f*cking retard.

Even if he feels the features that came with the 2.40 update were useless, it doesn't mean they weren't requested. This guy is seriously out of touch with the reality of it all. He's acting like the 2.40 firmware is the last f*cking firmware we'll get out of Sony.

I honestly think he doesn't even own a PS3, he's just a trash talking 360 owner who hates that fact that Sony is catching up to the 360 in features. PS3 is a revolutionary platform-- the 360 is not. So of course the PS3 is going to need to catch up (firmware-wise) to it's beefy PC-based counterpart. When it does though it'll be pretty sweet.

Even though Sony pulled the 2.40 firmware temporarily, I'm certain it'll be fixed and re-released. I updated my firmware to 2.40 and I haven't had any problems. The biggest feature I wanted was in-game XMB access and I got it. They could release a firmware that automatically does my taxes and I wouldn't care. As for the other features the new firmware has that I most likely won't use-- I'm sure there's other people out there that will be using it. I know Sony isn't going to waste R&D monies on features that will go completely or even widely unused.

Oh, and the jab he made about the clock. I'm happy they included that tiny feature. In case the room is dark and I can't see my wall clock in the wee hours of morning, it'll come in handy. Updating the time via the time servers on the internet was a nice touch.

When I sold my 360 out of frustration and bought a PS3, my initial thoughts were that I had made a not-so-good choice. However, seeing Sony's dedication to their customers and listening to them for ideas and new features, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy because I know things will get better than they already are. I've loved my PS3 not for it's faults but for the things it shines with.

Besides, apart from gaming it's an awesome Blu-ray player. Movies never looked so good on my HDTV.

[treereet]

This was an update, not a complete overhaul of the OS. In a couple months they'll do another update and add a couple more features people ask for, and so on.

Maybe people were delusional with their wants. They added a bunch of features this update ant they are still complaining. Complaining about the in game clock thing coming too late cracked me up. So he doesn't want it? Has time ended? lol

[tojfs7931]

if people realize this but there is only so much room the developers have to work with. Thats why they release these firmware updates a little at a time.

[tojfs7931]

is pretty much based on everyone's opinion.

[Expy]

The article author is a complete idiot. All the features of 2.4 were known before it was released, and he's saying that it fails because it doesn't deliver what it wasn't supposed to? Please, go cry in your mommy's arms you sad excuse for a gaming journalist.

[Lelouch V Brit]

Come on People! it wasn't a failure, the first FW 2.40 Update was a (Cough, Cough, Cough) BETA Firmware, Please Download The 2.40 new Firmware Version.

P.S: This Article Sucks.

[rbrtchng]

"At first I thought this might be from retail game to retail game. Without having to quit the game I’m in. Then eject then start another up." That is by far the funniest hate I've read. He thinks that the firmware update is gonna magically sprout a bd changer inside the PS3.

He claims that 2.4 was very hyped for him, but in almost every feature that he talks about he says that it's not important and shouldn't be hyped anyways.

"But I guess Sony thinks I don’t deserve trophies for the games I’ve already completed" He needs to learn a little something called game save sharing.

"I know I’m not the only one that got tired of having to wait for downloads to finish when they could be playing a game" I think he is the only one, because people can already play games while the something download in the background.

This is such a funny fanboy hate. I do hope he reads it over and laugh at himself.

[thehitman]

Why I think Im an Asshole.

Most of his points are not even reasons why the update was bad... He says that the pros out weigh the cons but in HIS OWN ARTICLE he states more pros then cons. I dont get it I mean your opinion is your opinion but dont go spreading it if your not at least going to do it in a smart way. He could have just switch the title to why I think it still needs work but why 2.4 was a failure is just a big ignorant statement.

[t-0_ot-]

Let me guess.... This person is a xBox Fanboy, isn't he?
ahahaha it's hilarious.

2.4 isn't really that good of an update. Yes, it has some nice features.. but like he said the pros don't outweigh the cons..

[REDZEV]

I just cant stop laughing at these articles that have been posted in the last couple days I mean its just to much Hahahahaha!!! Sonys a joke. you fanboys need to just deal with it and live with it. Sonys going down the same path as Sega did when they were in the hardware business. And you Emo Sony fanboys at the end of the day the jokes on you for supporting them. anyways happy 4th everybody except for the canandian guy. Im outta here

[BURLY]

Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate Sony’s efforts and wish them to continue but to criticize like the author does in this article indicates that they had some sort of expectations to begin with and although gamers expect more now than ever before from an online gaming experience – this is Sony and the PS3 we are talking about here! The real question isn’t what was or was not in the update per se but rather does these updates indicate a real change in direction for Sony, or just more lip service. I mean sometimes you have to do things in life that you don’t want to do and for Sony it was finally confronting the elephant in the room that was Xbox Live – gotta love competition! I own all three systems and I take these FW updates far less seriously than some because my expectations are lower from the standpoint that I highly doubt that Sony will ever match the experience of Xbox Live this generation regardless of how many firmware updates are released simply because of what I consider to be some very serious handicaps in the user interface hardware that Sony decided to go with during the initial development and packaging of the PS3. I mean come on folks; if one is going to criticize Sony’s efforts with respect to updating the PSN from the starting point of Xbox Live then maybe one should just take a good long look at the fundamentals. You see Microsoft (being a software company) developed their own wireless proprietary technology for the 360 that is far superior to Bluetooth with respect to battery life, reaction time, and signal stability. I mean there are no standard, over-the-counter batteries on the planet that are powerful enough to facilitate Bluetooth for any extended period of time and as such most (if not all) Bluetooth devices have their own built-in batteries. Furthermore, the wireless transfer of voice communication has always been a very battery intensive application for Bluetooth devices and this reality would have certainly played into the cost-benefit analysis and decision to not go with a wired headset that plugged into the bottom of the PS3 controller in a similar fashion to the Xbox 360 headset that ships with every single Xbox system. So besides the many ways that Sony’s decision to go with Bluetooth adversely affects my gaming experience with the PS3 controller in its singular form – it is amplified tenfold when one considers the fact that it has all but eradicated the social networking infrastructure of the PSN from the get go by forcing people to communicate with a headset that: 1) needs to be bought separately (in most instances); 2) needs to be plugged-in, maintained, and recharged; and 3) has an extremely poor battery life with which to play online games for extended periods of time. This folks is a HUGE deal and before you call me lazy for not always remembering to plug-in my PS3 headsets in order to recharge them like as though it should be part of my nightly bedtime routine (ala brushing my teeth, etc) consider the fact that as far as I can tell there are a lot of other people that don’t bother either because most times playing an online PSN game feels more like you are playing against computer bots and not real humans. I swear that I can often hear a cricket chirping in most online PSN matches where there is a much higher rate of people without headsets than in Xbox Live matches where the atmosphere is usually alive with the sound of people communicating and interacting with each other. The experience is night and day and the bottom line here people is that these online infrastructures cost both Sony and Microsoft an enormous amount of money to develop and maintain but where as Microsoft has structured their entire strategy towards facilitating the Xbox Live experience through both software AND hardware – Sony is in reaction mode and this much was obvious from the design stage of the PS3. People are willing to pay Microsoft to be part of the Xbox Live community and it has changed the face of gaming forever such that the competitive environment (as illustrated by the frustration this author feels in this article) is forcing Sony to swallow the costs because relatively speaking far fewer people would be willing to pay extra for the current feature set of the PSN service. I just hope that people are able to put their criticisms against Sony into perspective with respect to knowing what you are paying for when you choose a certain console and understand in no uncertain terms that there is not going to be an instant Firm Ware fix to the discrepancies between the different experiences of Xbox Live and the PSN during this generation of consoles. It’s simple fundamentals people!

Maybe next time engaging the online PSN community will be part and parcel with Sony’s hardware and packaging strategy, given that their primary focus should be less format driven and more about delivering what gamers now demand from a VIDEO GAME system! Heck maybe this increased competition will someday put downward pressure on the pricing of Xbox Live and then everyone wins but until then I will be playing online where the conversation is and continue to be thankful for any update that I get on any system.

[Product]

Hell i wil admit there are like 3 great features on there that any sony fan should love but just like a new operating system for your computer the rest our add-ons.The article is not sony bashing just the guy uses his ps3 differently where some of the features for him are not needed.the trophies a big plus and sony is starting to get closer to what xbox live has(which is the gold standard).If i were a sony fan i would be happy to get this update because it was well needed and a great stepping stone to what you expect in the future for sony but if anyone doesnt use these features how is their opinion wrong?an opinion is never wrong.Give the writer of the article a break. everyone on here was hyped and in arguments would state"wait for firmware 2.4.....) when talking trash to xbox fans.Now it comes out and everyone is like well its an update not an overhaul what did you expect.This update is great and good to build on.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Maybe Sony should hire geek squad to come in and fix it.

[REDZEV]

hahahahaah!!! thats funny jason!!! how about they just hire geek squad to run Sony they probally could do a better job of that!!! hahahaha!!! I mean that would make sense I mean all the executives and even the president has jumped shipped.

[Raptors]

lol America's National Security should consult with N4G for strategies cause the there are none better than the defence force on this site...wow.

[AuToFiRE]

this is what gets me really annoyed, instant fanboyism over a problem that isnt really considered bricking and only affects less that a percent, and where you can actually recover the console, it must be 360 fanboys trying to make themselves feel better

[Product]

True,remember everything sony is good

[JasonX43]

This article reminds me of my newborn nephew!

[IPlayGames]

Patches for MGS4 and Bad Company

PSN titles

Tekken

High Stakes Poker

Im just listing the games that i got but for real MGS4 ive stoped my second play through just to wait for the patch.

[realdeal]

i tried not even to comment on this. but this sh*theads like these get me aggrivated. post something that has proof to back up your reasons not just sh*t coming out your mouth

[gumgum99]

Its only phase 1. In time, you will not be disappointent.

[pwnsause]

ROFL at bots and their flame articles. 2.4 just opened a Huge hole for the PSN to Burst Thru and to grow rapidly into an organized system, and bots start going crazy because of a small problem thats going to be fixed within days. Just Remember what sony said bots, this is Phase 1 for the PSN to grow. Phase 2 is coming

[Mr_Luke]

Well... i installed it, all works fine, started collecting my SSHD trophies and XMB in-game is ok. I wouldn't call it "failure", i'd call it "not yet complete" maybe. But i'm happy with it tbh.
Pll tend to exagerate, over all when it's a Sony product, lately i see so many stupid articles about Ps3... ;P

[whoelse]

You cant win. If you demand sony to rush out these firmwares, you get less features and bugs. And when that happens, you complain and wish Sony took longer. I love this Update. It has In-Game XMB! Welcome to Phase 1!

[shysun]

Damn this guy complains about EVRYTHING! Is he sure he bought the right console ? I disagree with most of what he said,

[LinuxGuru]

Dear god, this is the worst bullsh*t article I've ever read.

Absolutely astonishing.

[StrboyM]

your mother was a failure

thats why they named you Donnie B...lmao

[LFC1EE]

Too many sonyfanboys to give your opinion on here, but i thouhgt the update was shocking, i was so looking forward to this update to go par with the xbox 360's live to be on the same level, but it was a complete failure, xbox live is still the way forward i think, it's so complete compaired to the ps3 live.

[C_Dub]

This guy is just looking for attention.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Sony may get it right with the PS4, if there is one.

[GameDev]

THE ONLY FAILURE HERE IS THIS ARTICLE AND THE WEAK ASS BOTS THAT JUMP ALL OVER ANY PIECE OF GARBAGE FUD THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS ON NO MATTER HOW RIDICULOUS THE PREMISE.

2.4 works flawlessly for me since day one. I played for a few hours last night and messaged back and forth several times with different friends while in game. LIVE = PWNED in less than two years time.

[shikwan]

You guys are ballz over chin cause you can get XMB in-game & check your messages? Wow what a bone Sony threw you...after 2 years!

This means that you have to randomly & constantly check your XMB as you're playing because the KEY feature here is NOTIFICATIONS. There are no audio/visual NOTIFICATION to ALERT you that you have a msg. And you still can't do cross-game invites, so what good is this really?

And the other major part; custom soundtracks. Nothing to do with PSN but MS has been doing custom soundtracks [on the hdd] since launch 2001 (7 years ago!) Welcome to LAST gen. Now how long will you have to wait to do STREAMING of custom soundtracks from a PC or Mp3 player? But I guess you guys will say it's more convienent for you to burn your ENTIRE music collection onto your PS3 than stream it from where it is : \ Too bad you can't use this feature on past & CURRENT major games...not to mention PS2 games.

[Ohohoho]

You CLEARLY don't have, or have ever seen a PS3 in action. You ALWAYS get notifications. It gets annoying, especially in a game like MGS4 when you're watching yoru radar for enemies and then you get "_______ is now online" or "You have received a message from ______" right at the top right corner of the screen. What we should have got was the option to turn them off in-game.

Don't talk about things you know nothing about.

[shikwan]

I'm big enough to say I was wrong...about the notifications. The 2.4 videos I've seen didn't include that.

But even still, without cross-game invites after 2 years on the market & PS3 in development since before 2005...it's still a scrappy crumb they threw you and not even a bone!

[Product]

Eternal champions damn thats old school.

[C_Dub]

You DO get notifications, it's been that way since the beginning.

[Ohohoho]

The link to the actual site has the following in the URL.

"Why I think FW 2.4 was a failure."

It's just a random OPINION piece by some small time blog site trying to get hits.

I DL'ed 2.4, had no problems, and look forward to its future. That's an opinion right there that doesn't try to convince anyone of anything. That's how journalism is SUPPOSED to be done.

[Product]

Journalists do pros and cons.Then you make an opinion off that.

[SirFenwick]

How many useless blog's need to be linked to this site? Nothing but a bunch of cry babies anymore. Can't be happy about anything.

[DFresh]

Sony delivered on the XMB but gave us 10X more to do than we expected.
Trophy support is up.
PSN got a big update so I'm not disappointed but like with anything things can be improved.
At least it's better than MS when it comes to updates.
MS promises a new update in the Spring Time now it Summer where's that new update MS promised they would deliver.

[zodiac909]

i dont really see anything wrong with 2.40... 0_0

[alphabet]

This article.

[picoso36]

More is always better in vid games! I play PSN games (among all the usual stuff) and already love popping out of one to drop into the next without blinking twice. I have to admit, I didn't know this update would include that - so imagine my surprise with this convenience.

Who cares that trophies arent retro? You can do it now, which beats the "nothing like that" we had just last week...

[Robulos]

Will someone explain to me who the author of this article is and if he has enough creditability to make his opinion(s) worth reading? Humm...smell that? That's sarcasm!

[b777conehead]

Microsoft has you idiot 360 fans so succored in. they sell a crappy product rrod. then instead of fixing and recalling and replacing all the 360s they add 3 years to the warranty . so you send your 360 back and wait a month for the return 360 which rrods again. to top that off they charge 50 a year to play on line. 360 fans are the only ones that have to pay to play on line . ps3 is free pc games on line are free. Microsoft really succored you 360 droids in. the 2.4 update worked great for me Sony did a nice job. it is a work in progress that will keep making me love my ps3 more and more every day. the idiot who wrote the blog that was his opinion and only his my opinion is keep the fw updates coming Sony your doing a great job