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Apple Set to Release New Console, Will Rely Solely On Third Parties For Software Says Pachter

There's been a lot of speculation concerning Apple and what some believe will be it's inevitable entrance into the gaming industry. But still many analysts have doubts, arguing that the company already has three gaming devices: the iPhone, iPod Touch and now the iPad.

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Al Bundy5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Too late, Microsoft beat them to it. It would be interesting to see who would win a bidding war for timed exclusive DLC between Apple and Microsoft.

movements5173d ago

You could say that but remember, Sony and Microsoft were not the first two companies in the industry.

Sega, Atari and Nintendo all were there before them. Nintendo still is; so if it wasn't too late for those guys, why can't Apple make its grand entrance and be successful?

It's quite possible.

PirateThom5173d ago

You think fanboys are bad now?

Apple fanboys are the worst of the worst.

Al Bundy5173d ago

He said that they will rely on 3rd parties. At least Microsoft had Halo to fall back on. What does Apple have?

movements5173d ago

@ Al Bundy, you make a good point. It'll be rough for them depending only on third parties, but who knows, contrary to what Pachter predicts, Apple could invest in first party devs.

No gaming company should live without internal studios. It's paramount imo.

hardcore19125173d ago

Unless one of the big three (Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony) step out of the competition which will not happen any time soon imo. It will be very crowded, the industry can't accept another player.

mjolliffe5173d ago

I'm not sure if it'll do well though. It'll be very overpriced, unless it has something every other console around doesn't, which is unlikely.

-Alpha5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

Dont take Pachter seriously when he says "Apple will rely on third parties only"

The guy is full of crap and makes the vaguest predictions. He is pathetic. Jesus, anybody can tell somebody Apple is set to release a console. Look at the wording, it's very clever so that it doesn't sound wrong: of course Apple is "set" to release a console, but that doesn't mean they have one. Pachter doesn't rely on logical reasoning, he relies and spurting out claims without proof, and as long as it sounds interesting and as long as people don't take the time to question him he will continue to be heard.

And that's the problem with people in general, they never question what they hear. "Apple is not known for internal software development" Well gee, that must mean they aren't going to rely on first party! If Apple were to enter the gaming industry they would have to rely on some form of exclusives and I am sure that Apple would try. Just because they don't have an internal software team now doesn't mean they wont, why the hell would Apple even have one right now to begin with?

Maybe it's just me, but I find he utters absolute nonsense.

Saaking5173d ago

Apple making a console? So it'd be overpriced and they'd release a brand new model every six months? If that's gonna be the case, then no thank you. Still, I'd rather have Apple than MS.

R2D25173d ago

the xbox and PS3 f@nboys were crazy, wait untill you meet the apple console f@nboy.

XDF5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

What a troll you are. Some how even if we are talking about a common enemy named Apple, you managed to get your 2 cents trolling on X360. Wow, just wow.

OT: Apple already have a game system named MAC. It has little no no first, second, or third party support. I don't think it will work because without any first party, it is 3DO all over again.

But, it will be fun adding Apple fanboys to N4G. Art designers, yuppies, and tech nerds that hang out in Starbuck with their shinny white MACbook raging war against Sony and Microsoft fanboys. It will be good time. LOL

baum5173d ago

FAIL. Why would I want a console with content I can find anywhere else? Maybe I should ask 360 only owners...

blue7xx75173d ago

Except Michael Pachter never said Apple will release a new console I love how this website took it out of context to get hits. He was referring to the Iphone and how Apple wont ever get into the game business but the Iphone is a legitimately gaming console/handheld so in a way they already are but they will fully rely on third party games to support it.

Bnet3435173d ago

I don't think this is happening, but if it does, expect it to cost you an arm or a leg.

Theonik5173d ago

Quite oddly they had halo. Until MS decided to buy bungie and cancel the then Macintosh exclusive halo and make it an Xbox game.

@Topic, Patcher should just shut up. apple tried to enter the console market with the pippin and failed dramatically other than the iphone i don't thing apple will do anything in regards to gaming. patcher just makes a lot of senseless predictions in the hopes that 1 will be true.

mega BIG time5173d ago

its official i have absolutely no room left for consoles with my 360, ps3, wii, and soon to be apple

RememberThe3575173d ago (Edited 5172d ago )

lol The only time you'd see 360 fanboys and PS3 fanboys unite would be against the Apple fanboys. What war that would be lol.

Plus, I can't really see this being successful. Apple i known for over priced hardware, and in the gaming market the hardware in known for being under priced to move software. If Apple does come out with a console they would have to go down the path that the Wii went down and I don't think Apple could hang with Nintendo.

@below: You actually said that... You do realize that you have one bubble because your a huge fanboy yourself, right?

EDIT: You calling me a moron is actually funny. You fanboys have this allusion that there is a conspiracy against 360 fans on this site. You talk as though your a gamer but all you do is talk sh*t about the PS3. That is why you don't have bubbles. If you would have logical criticisms of the PS3 you wouldn't lose your bubbles, but you fail to add anything constructive or insightful to any conversation your apart of.

I'm not loyal to anything other than God and my family, I just use my PS3 more and prefer it to my 360 mainly because my 360 is a launch model and has a ton of problems. I enjoy both consoles and tend to use my PS3 more because I want to stretch out how long I can use it before it craps out on me. Am I a fanboy when I talk about how good Mass Effect 2 is or how I enjoyed Bungies new approach the game design with ODST and Reach? Or when I talk about how I loved the first Gears of War and Prey and Crackdown? Or how I can't wait to get my hands on Metro 2033 or Conviction?

Frankly Thom was a making joke and your blind bias shows that you can't see that. Fanboys in general are annoying and narrow minded, fanboys like yourself. The fact that you thin one group is worse then the other shows how blind you really are.

EvilBlackCat5173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

"You think fanboys are bad now?

Apple fanboys are the worst of the worst"

-NO OOOHHH NO

-PS3 loyalist are way worst than them

if apple jump in this sh1t... bye bye Sony PS

sorry disagree all you want but its like that

the 1st to die because of them >> PSP <<

@ the moron above

NO i only have one bubble because i dont gives a fnck about PS3 loyalist like you

but i really dont gives a fnck about Apple, MS, Sony and Nintendo because in this sh1t i follow the games i like and not the consoles.

jamesgtaiv5173d ago

Looks like a mix between a 360 and a trash can. I hope they keep that design.

nveenio5173d ago

THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT PACHTER SAID!!! The author of this article blatantly left our the word "IF". This was purely hypothetical speculation. Apple is not releasing a console that is intended to compete with the 360/PS3...just like the iPod/iPhone was not released or intended to compete with the PSP/DS.

I reported this. This is the stupidest and most unprofessional article I've read in a long time...and that includes flame baiters.

BuZzz Killington5172d ago

someones aliitle to c%cky cause they wont the portable music player war.... game console division is going to eat apple alive they have the worst track record for decently affordable products......not to much theyre conputers cant even play games lol...like the ps3 and the 360 dont get viruses so apple cant play that card...so i really dont see how theyre going to succeed....

Oner5172d ago (Edited 5172d ago )

I see XDF and EvilBlackCat have a bad case of selective memory (seems a bit of a common occurance with "certain gamer types") and for some reason can't seem to remember how bad it was on N4G a few years ago with MS supporters...

Sorry if you can't handle the truth nor want to admit it to yourselves. But the fact is truth is the truth and it's all here in B&W for all to see if they want to go searching for the proof for verification.

@ Al Bundy ~ Priceless comment. Agree + Bubble...you deserve it ;)

fear885172d ago

They pride themselves on not getting viruses and having top of the line computer technology but my dell mini still manages to run OSX Snow Leopard and cost 30% of what those idiots would pay. And to make matters worse, If I were to put a "certain" cd in their mac, they would be on their knees crying.

Sheikh Yerbouti5172d ago

Real Mac Fanatics are that way because they are rich and like a boutique computer for a little conspicuous consumption. Or they are creatives who don't want to even pretend they're tech savvy geeks. I don't think either will translate into gaming.

And when Microsoft and its 3rd party demonstrated Windows 7 for our IT group here Indiana, they ran it on parallel on a MacBook. Mac's been running Windows for a while now...at times better than a PC. Goes both ways.

silverbeld5172d ago

'Apple Set to Release New Console, Will Rely Solely On Third Parties For Software Says Pachter'

If this is true, then they don't stand a chance. They will not survive the console war.

We all know developers are lazy. Porting games are crap. Exclusive games will make developers too get too the max for the console they working on. It will always looking better then port games.

And what makes you want too buy a console that only got multiplats. You will miss Gears off war, God of war, Garnturismo, zelda etc.

I hope Apple will make they're own exclusives. More consoles on the market better for the consumers.

Monkey5215172d ago

Since when do people take Patcher seriously? This guy makes the most ridiculous claims ever that are almost always wrong.

madpuppy5172d ago

from gaming. that is all we need, hipster douche bags talking up the shiny, low powered, OVERPRICED hunk of crap loaded with enough DRM to choke a sperm whale.

tplarkin75172d ago

Patcher is right, except that hardware is a money loser. Apple would have to go the route of the Wii to make profit from hardware. Then Patcher says that Apple can't compete with Nintendo. So, I don't see the motive for Apple to get into the home console market.

Arnon5172d ago

Great... just what we need. Apple fanboys.

Is it going to cost $3000?

mal_tez925172d ago

More useless than the iPad.

Will probably cost 2 grand as well

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PITTBULL835172d ago

and it will cost a 1000 dollars for an 8 gig,1200 16 gig and 1500 for a 32 gig lol.

Millah5172d ago

This is entirely just baseless speculation without even any kind of rumor to back it up.

Knowing the way Apple and Steve Jobs operates, its really unlikely Apple will release a true gaming system in the way of PS3 or 360. The way Apple sees things, is they already have the iPhone OS platform to fuel games development, so they wouldn't see a reason to step into the industry 100 percent with a dedicated console.

However, its a lot more likely that we'll see Apple put the iPhone OS platform on the Apple TV and an SDK alongside it to create applications for it in the app store. Thats probably the closest we'll see to Apple releasing a home gaming console.

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movements5173d ago

@ Pirate Thom lol, you might have a point there lol. It would be interesting to see a three-way war amongst Sony, Microsoft and Apple fans.

Although I still strongly believe the fanboy drizzle is just that: drizzle, nonsense, childish. It'd still be interesting though. ; )

Software_Lover5173d ago

Some of those guys really take that stuff to heart. When they curse and type they are really pissed. And when they are hurt they probably shed tears for real. Just sad really.

mastiffchild5172d ago

What's REALLY damn sad about it is they're blind to the damage they do in ensuring a divided gaming community where it's all too easy for lazy and untalented devs to pull scam after scam on us all. They even hurt themselves by playing their hilarious point scoring Reindeer games and don't realise it!

How on earth can holding a faceless corporation higher in their hearts and minds do anything other than serve the whims of a greedy, money leeching industry? Backing one of the major players at the expense of your fellow gamer, and ultimately themselves, is a road to nowhere to me but it still goes on regardless of sense and regardless of what their chosen companies inflict upon us all. It needs to stop and is way more harmful to us than most would like admitting, imho.

AngryTypingGuy5172d ago

Yeah, I don't think it'll succeed if it relies only on third party software...unless of course there's something really unique about it that customers HAVE to have.

Is this the mystery platform that Sonic 4 will be on? I was hoping it would be the Dreamcast 2.

I'm surprised Google hasn't entered the console market by now. It'll probably be only a matter of time before they do.

user8586215173d ago (Edited 5173d ago )

This might be a little far fetched, but imagine the apple tv was the console and the ipod/iphone were the controllers o_0!!!!

Its possible, but will it happen? o_0

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7 Iconic Games That Put The PS1 On The Map

The first PlayStation is home to an array of iconic video games that went on to define the sheer significance of this console.

SimpleSlave10h ago

I think from a historical perspective I would change Spyro for Grand Turismo. It's the franchise that made the PS1 look like an absolute unit. Other than that, I can't argue with the rest when it comes to games that defined the PS1.

And to be honest, there should be space for Tekken 3, Wipepout and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater in order to round out the PS1 identity as the machine to own at the time.

With Tomb Raider 2, Silent Hill, Symphony of the Night, Tenchu, and Soul Reaver as backup contenders.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 17h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 12h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 18h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus232d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 23h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 12h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 4h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 23h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 23h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein2d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno2d ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k42d ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson2d ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu2d ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson2d ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -