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PS3: Sony's (New?) Trojan Horse for Digital Distribution

In light of the PS3 video service and a major movie studio announcement, this editorial explores how Sony's PS3 is a more successful Trojan horse than Microsoft's console.

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Yi-Long5849d ago

... which is basically that now you kinda 'lose' your online-bought content, when your console breaks down and gets replaced.

Also, as long as buying something online isnt cheaper than buying the 'real' version in the store, why would we bother!?

DLC is only a plus when it's cheaper, and when it STAYS yours, even when your console breaks down, or when in a few years time you move on to the next-gen consoles...

JasonPC360PS3Wii5849d ago

Microsoft knows it, Sony knows it and, so do investors. Know why? because more content is added "daily" with a huge ammount of studio and network support. Example 1: Guitar Hero, 3+ million songs sold. Example 2: 1 million COD4 map pack downloads in one day. The marketplace is sailing not sinking, if were sinking then they would be jumping off, not jumping in.

:)

Utalkin2me5849d ago (Edited 5849d ago )

What do you mean by kinda? What you meant to say was you do not loose your online content you just have to redownload it. But on the other hand on stuff you have to redownload on a different machine it makes acrcade games trial unless you are signed into to live with your orginal account. So you do not loose your online content on XBL. Man you people really need to do your research before posting. If you dont own the console then why are you posting about false stuff about it.

PopEmUp5849d ago (Edited 5849d ago )

that what called business, company these day care about making money, because the digital distribution such as games contents you've mention is pure gold to the company when it come gaining profit with less expense from the company so yeah I would say this would be a great choice for business/inverter to make

The Killer5849d ago

just a few hours ago u had 2 bubbles and come u have 5 bubbles now?

JasonPC360PS3Wii5849d ago

Thats some other person, some nut crackpot. He has like 5 accounts mocking me. Whats realy sad is it's the same guy, and he's been running around giving people + and - on bubbles, using those 5 accounts.

There is only one Jason 360 and I don't use multi accounts. I think that guy is off his medication, or someone accidentally let him out of his cage. You know I fear that if I piss the guy off to bad, he might climb a clocktower, go postal, and start sniping people.

He goes by
Jason 180
Jayson 360
J4son 360
Jason 36O

sonarus5849d ago

hahaha i just love fanboy imposters makes me laugh everytime.

This guy makes it sound easy. Considering SCEA and the other studios have had a lot of trouble coordinating into something profitable for a long time i can definitely see them having friction at first. Howard Stringer will have to step in to set the whole thing up but yea sony does have the advantage. They will also be creating key relationships with studios due to them owning blu ray and all but it still won't be that easy but it can definitely be done

Yi-Long5849d ago

I said 'KINDA', cause you do 'kinda' lose your bought DLC. You'll have to be logged into XBL, in order to access your bought games etc.

Ofcourse, for many its no problem being 'logged in' non-stop, but still... there are those who dont want to be constantly online, and TBH why should you HAVE to be logged in, in order to play your own bought DLC!?

Sayai jin5849d ago

@ Yi-Long - Yup, MS needs to fix the DRM issue, but you ask why would someone bother. The same comparison for CD's and MP3's.

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JasonPC360PS3Wii5849d ago

You better start building it 3yrs ago Sony.

fenderputty5849d ago (Edited 5849d ago )

is just another format. It's not going to excel enough right away to stop physical media. I know it's something that will happen but, it's got some years before it takes off. The MP3 hasn't even killed the CD yet. People aren't using DLC for dvd's enough to impact a much smaller form of media as well. What makes you think DLC will take down an expanding BD market?

Like I said ... it's going to happen. It's just not happening now. If Sony's doing this to get, "their toes wet," they're doing it at the right time.

PirateThom5849d ago

Sony = major studio support without doing anything.

Other studios they're close to follow suit.

They have the backing of all the studios on Marketplace including themselves.

Microsoft can't compete with Sony on the movies front, because Sony will never support their download service over their own which they control.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5849d ago

All they need are the studios they have already secured, Sony is one studio and not even the biggest, majority rules. Thats how they beat HD DVD :)

PirateThom5849d ago

I think a lot of studios would sign up to a Sony service through the PS3 as well because of the Blu-ray/download option. It has both potential audiences covered.

I'm basing this entirely on stipulation. I don't really care about digital distribution bar making sure it's offered as nothing more than an option and not a replacement for physical media.

ChrisGTR15849d ago

i doubt that. why would they digitally distribute movies when they have a blueray player already built in. thatll completely defeat the purpose and make blueray player usless. not to mention they already make tons of cash from blue ray movies.

Killjoy30005849d ago

I don't think digital distribution would deem blu ray useless at all. All it would do is expand the the horizons of choices which the consumers could make. It wouldn't be confusing either seeing as there's only two decisions to make. All it would really be doing is catering to the consumers preference. when it comes to movies, I prefer a physical copy so I, myself, will not be buying much in terms of video content on the store but many others will.

SUP3R5849d ago (Edited 5849d ago )

I can see this happening in the future, but not while they're still trying to gain market awareness and adoption of BR.
I still have a thing for physical media which I can't move away from right now or in the near future.

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia1d 4h ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia1d 2h ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator1d 1h ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

Father__Merrin21h ago

Used to own all these quirky JRPG on ps3 good times. Wish I would have kept them all

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 18h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 15h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 15h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 10h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 18h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 4h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199223h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 17h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 16h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 12h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 4h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 10h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 10h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier23h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan14h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 20h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 20h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 10h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 19h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 19h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 17h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 10h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein2d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno2d ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k42d ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson2d ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu2d ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson2d ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -