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CDPR Is Already Acting Like A Big Publisher

The Witcher 3 only released back in 2015, and for those that don’t remember, CD Projekt Red was surging in popularity, but they weren't necessarily a household name. In that short five years, CDPR has become one of the most well-known companies in gaming. That explosion of success and notoriety seems to have had a negative impact on them overall.

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ArchangelMike1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

Excellent article. Very well thought out and well put.

Power (money and fame) corrupts.

I honestly can't remember the last time a publisher was this underhanded. Basically, the last 8 years of Cyberpunk 2077 was a lie. CDPR knew it, and they deliberately compounded that lie to take avantage of, and make money off the very consumers that they had been courting with glossy promises for all those years. To say it's a betrayal is putting it lightly, it's corporate exploitation and treachery at it's finest.

SullysCigar1258d ago

They've tasted success and money and that's all that seems to matter now. Passion be damned.

Prove me wrong, CDPR...

oof67811257d ago

All they really had was The Witcher. They were a one-trick pony for awhile lol

TallDarknWavy1256d ago (Edited 1256d ago )

Success and money is all that matters?
Dude, they delayed this game a year, it was just too big. Witcher 3 ran terribly when it first released as well. CDPR will put any amount of money and resources into fixing glitches post launch. They don't do microtransactions. This is hardly the behaviour of putting money before everything.

The reaction to a game releasing with glitches is such a cry baby dirty diaper fest, I can hardly believe it. People are acting like their non existent girlfriend cheated on them.

SullysCigar1256d ago

^ @TallDarknWavy, Wow. Re-read your last paragraph and reflect on it..

bloop1256d ago

@TallDarknWavy: You're acting like the game is your non existent girlfriend.

TallDarknWavy1256d ago

lol I've never seen people take glitches so personally. The language people are using is so butthurt like "we were betrayed, how can we ever trust CDPR ever again, they betrayed us with glitches", like really? They're acting like crybabies who think the glitches will never be fixed. The game design is there, it just needs polish. Witcher 3 was also full of glitches and today it runs fantastically.

tombfan1256d ago

@TallDark... Your comment was going ok, till the last paragraph... One thing is just have bugs, and the other is having a game so poorly optimized for everything except PC and next gen hardware (trough backwards compatibility) that it's unplayable in it's current state.

People are acting like they should, even a movie has more frames per second than the average fps on Cyberpunk. And that's just a part of the issue, this poor optimization makes the game even more sensible to have game breaking glitches and bugs, there are tons of things that goes wrong when you don't optimize your game, not just FPS drops.

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AngelicIceDiamond1257d ago

"Power (money and fame) corrupts."

They made a game about that now they've succumb to their own creation, how ironic. It's like the game foretold what they're becoming.

RememberThe3571257d ago

Almost like the people making it knew first hand how bad their management was.

ArchangelMike1257d ago

They don't need to role-play Corpo so hard. Arasaka would be jealous.

😅

outsider16241257d ago

They should have just cancelled the PS4 version if they thought their game wasn't gonna run well.

Take The Last Guardian for example. That game was announced on PS3 until it got cancelled because the PS3 wasn't capable enough and so they released for PS4.

CDPR should have done the same.

RCslayer1256d ago

RIGHT!! the sales of the XS1 and Ps5 would easily make up for the 150 million consoles that the Ps4 and X1 has...... oh wait. Use your brain man.

Juancho511256d ago

Thats not the point RC. It's a new console, with leaps in graphics and performance. Super Nintendo games werent being released on NES for a reason, theres no justification for releasing dumbed down last gen versions other than GREED.

They couldve just released it on Next Gen consoles like they were supposed to, you get greedy you get SHIT on.

anast1256d ago

@Juan Actually it wasn't supposed to be a next gen game, it was supposed to be a current gen game. So, they needed to understand their constraints and work within the constraints they set for themselves. For 6 years of development it was a current gen game.

outsider16241256d ago

@RC
If the game you're making, isn't even running properly on old gen..would you release it? There's your reputation/trusts at stake here too.

Unless you're greedy and you want those 150 million.

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frostypants1256d ago

Wow. The dogpile is real. The last 8 years were not a lie. They just released too early.

annoyedgamer1256d ago

EA does this daily. But its shocking that CDPR got so full of themselves so fast.

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masterfox1258d ago

I think humbleness was lost here and selfish entlitlement kicked in with CDPR, cause they thought they could do whatever they want with gamers.

mafiahajeri1258d ago

Fact is they are and they can, the games a huge sucess because of dumbass gamers who got brainwashed by hype. They should announce a shit load of upcoming DLC as free after this mess, not just patches.

Sunny_D1257d ago

I mean the issue is no one knew what the performance of the game was going to be like because they hid it from the public. Not everyone is spending their time on gaming websites to find out every little detail of a game.

RgR1257d ago

Refunds are available. Nothing wrong with hype. Don't preorder....especially digital since that stock doesn't run out.

Simply because they made a buggy mess doesn't entitle you to their free labor. That is wholly up to them.

electroblood1257d ago (Edited 1257d ago )

I was one of CDPRs biggest fans. I have been waiting for Cyberpunk to see what they could do on their own from scratch, without someone else's ready-made world to step into. It plays fine on my PC, bugs are infrequent for me, but this mess is unforgivable. No excuses to be made here. I cant even stand to play the game knowing how terribly they behaved.

CosmicTurtle1257d ago

Cyberpunk is someone else’s ready made world. It was a pen and paper RPG back in 1988. I believe the game was originally set in 2013 and a later edition was set in 2020 (which I played),

anast1256d ago

It's Mike Pondsmith's world.

isarai1258d ago

They burned me once already with the witcher 3 launching so poorly optimized and looking quite downgraded from its reveal "gameplay" trailer. So luckily i was already approaching this cautiously, i still want it, but not till it's in a stable state and the actual next gen versions launch.

BLow1257d ago

For me, I didn't buy the Witcher 3 at launch. It was easily out for a year or 2before I bought it. Igor the complete edition for $20. So you know it was awhile after launch lol.

But I did hear and read about the problems. Such a shame that this happened. You live and you learn. That's part of life no matter who you are.

ApocalypseShadow1258d ago

Hopefully in their next gen updates, there's a ray tracing light patch to their shady practice listed in the patch notes. Even though some gamers have seen the light, this will give those loyalists who still give them a free pass some illumination. They scammed gamers.

Father__Merrin1257d ago (Edited 1257d ago )

If a publisher doesn't support you or your platform you should not support them.

I would not even buy it on ps5 or series X S as your getting the base game with no improvements, the only thing you really get are back compat enhancements nothing more

RememberThe3571257d ago

I keep seeing "it runs fine on PS5," but why would I buy it on PS5 either? The console versions are empty and blurry. PS5/XsX can do so much more than this shit show.

Father__Merrin1256d ago

Exactly there's no point buying. Even on pc it will only run smoother frame rate only if you have an extremely high spec pc all other bugs glitches are the same

myfathersbastard1256d ago

Also, it doesn’t run “fine” on PS5. Frame rate and resolution is better, but still sub 1080 most of the time. But the bugs still make it practically unplayable. I put in 7 hours or so. Crashes and progression stopping bugs constantly.
The game runs like shit on all consoles. It’s just a fact.

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

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RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga3h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

Knightofelemia1d 2h ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord8h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame81824m ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks Was Working On 2 Games Before Studio Closure

Tango Gameworks, the developer behind rhythm-based action game Hi-Fi Rush, had been working on 2 games prior to studio closure.

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That's for people who said that Ninja Theory would not get closed because they are working on a new game

1Victor3h ago

Well Microsoft have to plug the holes somehow to appease their investors 🤷🏿

darthv723h ago

Tango was part of Bethesda, that was their call. Ninja is their own thing, and MS lets them do their own thing. MS may own Bethesda, but they let them make their own decisions.

porkChop3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

That is technically true. I do think Xbox can still come in and make those kinds of decisions if they want to though, but it's true that Bethesda has been running themselves. That's how we ended up with Redfall in the first place.

I wouldn't let Xbox off the hook though because they obviously would have known that Bethesda were shutting them down and let them do it. Xbox could have just moved Tango directly under Xbox Game Studios instead.

darthv722h ago

We can only assume as much since we dont fully know the conditions of their partnership. It may be that Bethesda agreed to the merger under the conditions that they still be allowed some autonomy like making decisions for game releases and studio management. Again, that's just a guess but when i see people try and convey that Ninja Theory is in the same boat as Tango... this is what comes to mind. NT is their own entity, under direct management of MS. Tango was not.

Flewid6389m ago

Some studios working on games close. Other studios working on games stay open.

You didn't know that?

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Metal: Hellsinger dev says he is against Game Pass after seeing how it affects sales

Founder of Metal: Hellsinger studio says he wasn't against Game Pass until their game launched on Microsoft's service, which affected game sales.

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TheProfessional13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable? PS Now was before gamepass but it was streaming trash that no one had any interest in.

And honestly the way the industry releases overpriced and broken games with day one season passes and dlc who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall. If it's from an indie studio that needs the sales that's different but games published by larger companies are fine on a subscription model. Also any of these devs who complain did decide to put their games on gamepass in thr first place.

ocelot0711h ago

Ahhh yes the typical but but but Sony in a Microsoft article.

When did Sony copy Microsoft? I havent seen Sony's big day one titles such as God of war Ragnarok or GT7? Do you want to know why they are not on the service? Because people are still willing to PAY for the games. Sony has already admitted they lost millions putting Horizon Forbidden West and Ratchet & Clank on PS+ Extra.

"larger companies are fine on a subscription model" Oh really? So why is all the cod games yet to be on it? Where is elden ring? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Street Fighter 6? Boulders Gate 3? Alan Wake 2? Where are they of gamepass is great and big publishers are fine putting newer games on it?

I'll tell you where they are. They are currently still selling for their respected publisher's. You know actually making them money. That money they can use to fund the next project.

who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

I'm one of the millions who much rather pay $70 so fully support the publisher. Why do we do this? Well for starters I rather just pay for it rather than keep renting it each month. If we all just kept renting years ago blockbuster would still be around. Secondly, I rather we have AAA titles in 10 years time to enjoy. Rather than play mobile quality crap from a subscription.

Tell me how this is a good thing for gaming going forward. The last time I subbed to Gamepass was October 2023. During that one month subscription I played the newly released Starfield, Forza and a few other titles. All for the cost of about $7. Since then Microsoft have not released anything I want to try out or put anything on GP I want to try. So they last made $7 from me 8 months ago.

In the last 3 months. I have bought Sea of Thieves on PS5 (earning MS more money on that than my 1 month subscription to gamepass). Resident Evil 4 for £20 and Diablo 4 for £25 (again earning MS more buying this than buying a sub). Tell me how it's best for gaming I pay $7 and play the latest and greatest for a month. Rather than just buying what I want even if it means waiting a few months and getting it cheaper than full price yet earning the publisher more than renting said games of a monthly sub.

darthv724h ago

...but didn't this game leave GP and then join PS+?

If a sub service is so bad, why get into another one right away?

Cacabunga3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Finally devs waking up! More will follow .. reminds me of capcom during PS3,360 era almost going bankrupt they released extremely poor games because Xbox gave them paychecks not to release them on PS3 for as period. Sales were terrible and they went away from that.

Hofstaderman11h ago

Sony has never released new titles day one. They experimented with Forbidden West which was fairly new and quickly discovered that it cannabalized sales. XBOX gamepass was always an act of desperation to remain relevant and in their desperation they effectively dug their grave where today everybody is biding their time for their formerly exclusive titles. In a nutshell GamePass made XBOX not relevant.

Plague-Doctor274h ago

It wasn't desperation. Subscription Models had a very different outlook in 2017 and then with the gaming surge during COVID reaching critical mass seemed more and more possible.

Phil convinced Satya to chase a trend and it hasn't worked out

lellkay10h ago

Literally dev who put game on gamepass:
It's not good

TheProfessional: but but sony but sony

S2Killinit9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Sony didnt copy MS. MS copied Sony, then MS went on to make xbox a subscription device. Remember that part? Yeah.

MrNinosan9h ago

You're not too bright, right?

First of all, Sony didn't copy Microsoft regarding PS+ and GamePass, which you admit to early in your comment, but with some faults. PSNow was not only streaming.
The mentality at Xbox gamers, is to NOT buy games, because they are used to get it on GamePass, preferbly day 1 like with all Xbox Studios games.

This is not a thing at PS+ and never was.
Sure there was plenty day 1 games on PS+ like, Rocket League, Stray, Sea of Stars, Tchia, Operation Tango etc, but those didn't take away from gamers that it was more like a "bonus" than a "thing".

Playstation gamers buy games, a lot of games and PS+ has been proving to be way better for business than GamePass, both by actually having more subscribers but also no eating up sales.

dveio9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall.“

How can you possibly come to this conclusion?

First, you pay for a subscription.

Then download games. But games will eventually leave the service. You will again need to buy them if you want to play them ever again. Or if you cancel your subscription. Right?

Eventhough this may NOT have an effect on every subscriber, this IS in fact the economical motiviation behind the service like GP.

If you are not already paying "double" this way, you pay at a 1.2 or maybe even at a 1.5 ratio eventually than opposed to simply buying the game in the first place.

As I said, this maybe doesn't apply to every subscriber. But this doesn't erase the fact of this business model existing. And possibly keep growing.

It's driving me nuts at times that especially the die hard Xboxers seem not to understand what they are actually cheering for foolishly.

The Wood8h ago

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders

The Wood7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders. on top of that it seems more devs on top of the devs that have shunned the service are not seeing the value of subs vs actual sales. Sell first, sub later works better than sub off the bat. MSGaming has a major sea change decision to make regarding COD. Do they release it dod and lose a high portion of up front revenue or either up the price of gp on the whole or create an even higher sub tier to cushion the blow or don't release it on gp at all and potentially damage the good will gesture reiterated not too long ago. The acquisition money wasn't free money....they'll have to pick their poison

anast6h ago

"Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable?"

They didn't copy GP. They aren't dumb enough to put their exclusives day 1.

"Who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?"

People who don't like to rent things.

outsider16244h ago

It's funny when he says who wouldn't pay for a subscription instead of paying 70$. Well no shit...if MS keeps releasing average titles who wouldnt..🤣

Cockney2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The reason is playstation didn't copy anybody and they don't release broken games, their games are still not day 1 and Ps players still buy games so ps+ is just an option for those that want a subscription service, the fact playstation doesn’t push it front and centre should tell you a lot.
On xbox gamepass IS front and centre with an option to buy games on the side, look how that is panning out for them!
Xbox fans are the only ones trumpeting this from the rooftops

shinoff21831h ago

Weren't we able to download ps3 on ps3 and ps4 on ps4 systems back then I really don't remember.

Truth is Ms still copied Sony and made a couple adjustments. One adjustment being day one games which clearly has been xboxs issue hence the ps5 releases, and they groomed the base to not buy games.

romulus231m ago

To be fair it takes it's own level of bias to not see the harm day one game pass is doing to xbox and the industry as a whole. Harm that xbox themselves have admitted to.

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Skuletor12h ago

I feel no sympathy for the guy, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting your game on gamepass would affect sales.

JEECE6h ago

Seriously, how is it that devs need one of their games to bomb in sales due to Gamepass for them to realize what so many people could easily predict? Like people joke about "armchair CEOs" on here, but at least with respect to the effect of Gamepass, we keep seeing that the armchair CEOs are actually smarter than the real heads of these indie studios.

dveio10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

The 'day-one' feature is the breaker or maker with GP, business-wise.

GP is no Netflix.

Because, from all the Marvel's Avengers to Sicarios, illustratively speaking, they all had their box office money. Before they had entered Netflix.

This concept shows you what Microsoft have actually put themselves into.

And what situation studios put themselves into if they go day-one into GP.

solideagle5h ago

GP/PS Extra day one is best suited for GAAS or free to play games

truthBombs10h ago

Why not sell your game the traditional way first? Then after about 6 months to a year put it on a sub service.

Day one on gamepass is a gamble. It works for some (Pal world) and not for others.

anast6h ago

It's the old psych. experiment. Set out some candy and tell the person they can have it all now, or if they wait, they can have double the amount. Most choose the first option, then complain when it doesn't work out for them.

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