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Koei Tecmo Revises Forecast After Rise Of The Ronin & Other Game Sales Underperform

Koei Tecmo has revised its financial forecast for the current fiscal year after Rise of the Ronin and other games sales underperformed.

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Title is incorrect. They say Rise of Ronin underperformed but Koei doesn't list specific titles in its press release (https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/ir/docs/ir6_20240415.pdf). They could very well be talking about Wo Long Fallen Dynasty which is know to have lower than expected sales. They also listed higher then expected non operating income expenditures as a reason for the lower than expected income.
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TwoPicklesGood46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Sales projections have been dropped by 11% and operating income by 28%. Software sales are missing the intended target by the equivalent of $70 million. Ouch!

Obscure_Observer46d ago

Going exclusive with Playstation turn out to be yet another bad decision in this case.

It´s not the PS4 era anymore and the new PS Plus is clearly taking its tool on games sales on PS5 too.

Not nearly as harsh as Gamepass on Xbox mind you, but clearly strong enough to have a negative impact on gaming companies perception on exclusivity with one platform going forward. Especially regarding AAA games.

purple10146d ago

When you say “ yet another bad decision in this case”

Doesn’t that mean there’s. Whole host of other bad decisions to be able to say “yet another”

Which others are terrible I’m a ps fan, but still want to hear

shaenoide46d ago

Or maybe the game isn't as good as it should be to be released on this timeframe

CPTN MITCHELL46d ago

Another bad decision 😂the game is trash and if you think that releasing on the Xbox platform would help them you're out of your damn mind. Xbots don't buy games gameass is the welfare of gaming

Eonjay46d ago

This is incorrect. The title says its Rise of Ronin but the press release doesn't say that. They could (and seem to be) referring to multiple titles. Also, if sales were down, it wasn't because of PlayStation exclusivity but rather average scores.

Obscure_Observer46d ago

@purple101

"Which others are terrible I’m a ps fan, but still want to hear"

According to reports:

Babylon´s Fall, Forspoken, Foamstars, FF: XVI and lastly FF: Rebirth and Rise of Ronin, all of those games underperformed in some level despite the technical quality and critical acclaim.

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savedsynner46d ago

Rise of the Ronin also released the same day as the bigger profile Dragon's Dogma 2...plus, it was a solid game but not a hit.

LucasRuinedChildhood46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

"Babylon´s Fall, Forspoken, Foamstars, FF: XVI and lastly FF: Rebirth and Rise of Ronin, all of those games underperformed in some level despite the technical quality and critical acclaim."

Babylon's Fall literally has a 41 on Metacritic. lol. What are you talking about?
Forspoken: 59/64
Foamstars: 57

FF16 and FF7R still sold a lot.

SquareEnix once claimed that Tomb Raider (2013) was a financial failure despite being a massive hit.

"Underperform" is their catchphrase. Their expectations over the last few console generations have been a bit absurd. Some other examples I found: https://www.neogaf.com/thre...

The association you're trying to create doesn't actually make sense. This stuff was going in for many years before GamePass or a PS Plus catalog. They sold off all of their non-Japanese studios too.

Anyone can create a narrative when you exclude context. For example, Final Fantasy 13 sold 1 million on PS3 and X360 in its opening week while FF16 sold 3 million on PS5 in the same timeframe.

Rise Of The Tomb Raider is genuinely the only SquareEnix game where the sales completely imploded by being exclusive to one console.

X-2345d ago

Why are you comparing Gamepass with PS Plus?
The problem with AAA Games has become in most cases the Quality, which is a issue brought about by the Publishers wanting sky high profit numbers while delivering lackluster products. The entry fee for games nowadays is damn near 100 bucks and we're just not getting the respect and the polish we deserve for our money.

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Cacabunga45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Imagine if they went xbox exclusive.. they would have sold 50 copies at best.
The kind of games like Rise of Ronin sells on the long run.

InUrFoxHole45d ago

@Purple101
Since you're asking and I'm assuming you're being genuine... Now keep in mind I like the 3 main consoles Nin, Sony, Ms so I'm not delusional that I don't think they all make mistakes but I can name a few off the top of my head.
1. Move to Gaas
2. Relying on pc to support the psvr2
3. Ps5 pro when we haven't even scrapped the ps5 potential
4. Playstation portable
5. Price increase for psn
6. Lack of 1st party
7. Wasting time trying to prevent ms from getting cod

ricksears45d ago

The game is terrible and not nearly as player-friendly as Ghosts. I played 3 time and completely lost Interest. Waste of money.

TrueRican6944d ago

It was a good game plp and game reviews don't matter the plp how buy it enjoyed it so did I and who care if it not on Xbox gamepass plp who own that are only renting the game.

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TheEroica45d ago

Looking forward to playing this game on Xbox so Koei Tecmo can recoup their losses on PS5....

TheEroica45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

It's OK Microsoft gamers will get it soon. Pc too... Maybe switch! The other install bases will save Sony from their blunders...

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Sonic188146d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Rise of the Ronin hasn't even been out a month yet?

koga8846d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Ronin picked a really bad time to release. It arrived a week before Dragon's Dogma 2 and was blown out of the water in pretty much every way.

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Eonjay46d ago

They probably aren't talking about Rise of Ronin. They article makes it look like they are. But that isn't disclosed in the release.

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Eonjay46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

PSA: Don't reply to ALT troll accounts created 5 minutes ago. I say stuff all the time that people don't agree with or don't like but when I say it, you know its me. Its not that deep for you to be a coward about. The same person created two different ALT accounts to respond to me. Pathetic; weak; always hiding from the light.

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CrimsonWing6945d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Game sales are strongest at launch week. They taper down after that. It’s like movies. Opening night/week is the strongest for sales.

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Lexreborn246d ago

I fully plan to get rise of the ronin, but not until after I finish FF7R. I’m also not getting Stellar blade right away either, I’m just not rushing to buy games and/or finish them fast.

I have been enjoying taking my time lately in games versus rushing to say I played the latest release.

LoveSpuds46d ago

I am in a similar spot squire, I picked up Dragons Dogma 2 and want to put that to bed before picking up Ronin.

Can't help but think that this is another example of reviewers being out of touch with gamers, as every person I know who' have played it loved it.

Lexreborn246d ago

Reviewers are always looking for the next HYPE game trend because it generates revenue for their sites. The problem is not every game has ever been that, so they tend to use negative articles to catch people attention and pick up steam.

It’s like tabloid news and the aliens that abducted farmer jack and fused him with his wife. Gaming news is more then not, trash

LoveSpuds45d ago

What bothers me about much of the games media is that they are all personal friends or there is almost cross pollination between companies, so they all talk to each other and I feel like thar invites an opportunity to influence each other.

Ironmike45d ago

I love ronin it stop me playing rebirth well that and chadley lol

Lexreborn245d ago

What’s wrong with chadley? Bro gives me good boss hunt content lol

Demetrius45d ago

I agree I been finishing up my backlog it's been fun af lol, even started back on my playthrough of hulk ultimate destruction on ps2

GoodGuy0946d ago

The game should've came out multiplatform. And it came out in the middle of many other games like rebirth, granblue, persona 3, and the upcoming stellar blade. Not to mention reviews were also a bit underwhelming. There was just way too many games for the first few months of this year which is good but also bad for everyones wallet and time lol.

Asterphoenix45d ago

Yeah it was a bad time to release it and they could of waited until at least May and there's just so many games that are coming out. If anything I'm struggling to keep up with finishing Rebirth, P3 Reload and Granblue let alone all the others I want to play.

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anast45d ago

The 4 extra people on Xbox won't matter. Maybe a PC release in the future, though.

bRuud8346d ago

It looks like people are not buying games anymore. Just too many releases in a short time.

CantThinkOfAUsername46d ago

Inflation, cost of living, work-life time, layoffs, backlog, $70/£70/€80/CA$100/AU$120 , is it really surprising?

ChasterMies45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

At an individual game level, too many releases at the same time will hurt a game’s sales.

At the level of all games sales, spending has gone down since the pandemic. However, this isn’t the normal cycle of spending going up and down. The U.S. is the biggest game market and its economy is growing at twice the rate of other G7 economies. So it’s not the economy. (And when the economy is bad, people spend more on games and less on more expensive forms of entertainment.) What’s new this cycle is that gamers have subscription options that divert sales and they spend more time with free-to-play games that divert sales.

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Rise of the Ronin Releases Big New Update

The latest update for Rise of the Ronin brings huge changes to the game by introducing new content, adjusting the gameplay, and fixing bugs.

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ZeekQuattro10d ago

Gotta get back to this. I took a break for a while.

H98d ago

I started this yesterday, it's like Ghost of Tsushima but with a actually fun combat, I don't like the Assassin's Creed world design in both tbh

EnViiDisnuCCa8d ago

Ain't nothing like ghost of tsushima rise of the ronin is way different from ghost

H98d ago

Same open world design which is the biggest chunk of the game, the biggest difference are the combats which is great and the souls style interconnected dungeons

Elda8d ago

I just beat the game & it does remind me of Ghost Of Tsushima. It has some Ghost Of Tsushima influences, though Rise OF The Ronin is its own game.

notachance8d ago

I had a blast with it, AC style open-world with Nioh gameplay, and the combat was way easier than their past title so you can actually chill while playing it and not raging all over the open world.

Demetrius8d ago

I tried getting into this but it felt way too much like a souls game, it felt like fromsoftware made it, it would be nice if most devs knew they don't have to copy souls game for success, cause most of every game that copies them I rarely hear about those titles again and people I've talked to rarely know about em, but they know of darksouls, elden ring, can't beat the originals, not saying ronin a bad game I'm just not into souls like games I like for devs to be creative and copy less, it's so many ideas games could use nowadays

Einhander19728d ago (Edited 8d ago )

"I tried getting into this but it felt way too much like a souls game."

You can change the difficulty and make it more like a hack and slash. It doesn't need to be a stressful playthrough.

Psychonaut858d ago

Good to see them continuing to support it, good game but definitely needed some love.

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Team Ninja: How Ninja Gaiden and Nioh connect to Rise of the Ronin

Many of you who have already played Rise of the Ronin may have noticed some elements of our previous works such as Ninja Gaiden and Nioh from Team Ninja. Today we’re excited to share some of the behind-the-scenes development stories for the first time. Plus we share details on an upcoming game update.

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purple10110d ago

not a good title FPS RUSSIA. should have gone with: "new content added'. ... or something like that

try : 'New and expanded content 5 new Ally Missions added. + Addition of dojo training partners"

FPSRUSSIA10d ago

Lol thats the title of the article by playstation blog what are you talking about ?

FPSRUSSIA10d ago

Read the article it has nothing to do with what you said

purple10110d ago

I literally copied and pasted that from the bottom of the article

DEEBO9d ago

The new update is so good...

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Rise of the Ronin—A History of Music With Composer Inon Zur

CGMagazine had the opportunity to speak about the soundtrack of Rise of the Ronin, Starfield and more with composer Inon Zur.

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