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Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Appears To Have Received A Substantial Visual Upgrade, Comparison Inside

Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 has received a substantial visual upgrade, and we've put together a comparison that shows the improvements.

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Petebloodyonion16d ago

And still no marketing for this :(

Barlos16d ago

Why market something that isn't designed to be sold?

This has GP rental written all over it.

Petebloodyonion16d ago

Why bother showing me X shows streaming on Disney before my YouTube video since it's a rental?
Why bother showing what movies are coming to a theater?
Actually, how come game companies bothered in them past with advertising games since a lot of ppl used to rent them at BlockBuster?

Here is a simple reason: making ppl Interested in this game by making them subscribe to Gamepass, or buying the game on PC/Xbox, or worse giving them a reason to buy an Xbox console.

Noskypeno15d ago

@Pete, speaking of movies, Microsoft should copy that business model and sell the games at $70 for 3 months and then let it hit Gamepass after those 3 months. It gives them time to let the game receive a big profit, so for that big game you've been waiting years for that you don't want spoiled, I don't mind paying the $70 a couple times a year. And for those small niche games that don't require a big budget and big profits to succeed, well Gamepass is perfect for that to see if you enjoy it.

Petebloodyonion15d ago

@Noskypeno
I agree, always said that there are no financial gains in putting established games that will sell on names alone (COD, GEARS, HALO, FORZA, etc), the same way Disney won't give you the next Avenger Day 1 on Disney plus +.
MS could release game some smaller games with some AA game day 1 while making money for a couple of month on big titles.

Tacoboto16d ago

They just posted a 20+ minute video about Psychosis and how the game portrays that through Senua.

Regardless of what Microsoft is doing (retweeting Ninja Theory is about as low effort as it gets, and Dashboard Dynamic Themes should've come months ago), Ninja Theory themselves are at least trying.

It's sad though. That new video was a really good behind-the-scenes too, and it just came at such a bad time.

Terry_B16d ago

who knows..they might be the next developer that gets shut down..6-12 months after Hellblade 2 is released.

Charlieboy33315d ago

"a 20+ minute video about Psychosis and how the game portrays that through Senua".....game sounds like a bundle of fun!

Tankbusta4016d ago

How much marketing do games really need these days? People that play games know when its coming out. I really think the days of the constant tv ad etc are going the way of the Dodo. What scares me more is the lack of "previews" on big video game websites, it only got a few on April 4th and then nothing since.

RNTody16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Wow Tankbusta40 how out of touch with reality can you be, mate. Do you think companies are insane to spend millions on having giant billboards for big releases and TV adverts and superbowl slots and round the clock PR and interviews? Most of the people who buy games aren't on gaming forums like these knowing the exact release dates!

This isn't being marketed because Microsoft isn't selling the product, it's a Game Pass day one and they don't throw their weight behind games like this.

Chevalier15d ago

"Here is a simple reason: making ppl Interested in this game by making them subscribe to Gamepass, or buying the game on PC/Xbox, or worse giving them a reason to buy an Xbox console."

No one is buying a Xbox for Hellblade 2. Lol. Advertising will not change that. Just considering after all this time Xbox confirmed numbers they were not good for Hellblade 1

"The last numbers we have for Hellblade 1 is that it had 6.3 million players after four years. That’s players, not sales, and that includes launching on Xbox, PlayStation, PC, Switch and it was also on Xbox Game pass starting in 2018."

https://www.forbes.com/site...

Killer2020UK15d ago

Wouldn't be surprised if one of the money men at Microsoft have already earmarked this studio for closure regardless of how well Hellblade 2 does. Hence the lack of marketing spend.

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Hugodastrevas16d ago

Wait, this game's actually still being made?

Hugodastrevas16d ago

Clearly, because there's tons of promotion about this game everywhere! /S

ThinkThink15d ago

Under a rock much? This game has been trailered to death already over the past 5 years.

Hedstrom16d ago

Ninja Theory is gonna be MS next cut!

Crows9016d ago

Most likely. Otherwise more people would know about the game....most people don't...it'll drive some in Gamepass but that's probably going to be it.

ThinkThink15d ago

Most people don't know about the first game either. I don't see this driving new members to gamepass though, it's too niche.

Terry_B16d ago

yupp..most likely just a matter of time.

more or less every studio that got bought by them was killed later.

Walalon16d ago

It's sad that Ninja Theory can update graphics, lighting, made a marvelous game but still the sword of Damocles moving up their heads... After Tango Game works every one that works on any studios under the wing of MS are probably having a Plan B looking for another place to go thanks to that stupid idea of even if you create a jewel they can axe you...

DarXyde16d ago

I mean, we'll have to see.

What I find problematic was Bond really saying that each case for success metrics with different studios is different. However, the studios recently closed seemed surprised when it happened so... Is Microsoft not telling the studios what their expectations are?

It's entirely feasible, but I suspect Starfield didn't really move the needle and Bethesda is safe... But Tango, who made a game that was very well received with a smaller budget gets closed?

We really don't understand what they want. It doesn't help that they shadow dropped HFR with no marketing and I would say outperformed any expectations for it. But somehow, that wasn't enough?

In truth, we don't really know what the criteria for closure is. Specific engagement metrics? Mean play time? Some internally developed index to assess some engagement-to-budget ratio?

We don't know. I think the concern for Ninja Theory is valid, but sink or swim at MGS seems to be a moving target.

MrBaskerville16d ago

The most concerning thing about Senua is that it's a farily niche title that MS for some reason spent a fortune on. Makes you think about what their expectations are. If they are hoping for God Of War money I would expect another closure.

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Nacho_Z16d ago

The new pics look more orange but that's about it.

glenn197916d ago (Edited 16d ago )

aha just like death stranding

Skuletor16d ago

It's been over 4 years since that game released. I wonder if Ninja Theory will even be around 4 years from now, maybe not even 4 months, lol.

Flewid63816h ago

Less game than Death Stranding. Better graphics tho

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Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II Review: A Technical Masterpiece Weighed Down by Mediocrity | CBR

Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II continues Senua’s struggles against her own reality, but undermines its nuances for an Xbox epic that’s lesser in design.

Jin_Sakai16h ago

Hellblade 2 looks incredible but the gameplay is a linear slog from the looks of it.

gold_drake5h ago

yea, you are essentially walking around in a straight sort of line or corridior for the most part and just ... look at stuff.

Sonyslave314h ago

It funny seeing some of these sites that praise the 1st one but not the sequel.🤔

piroh12h ago

Both games have the exact same metascore 81

MrBaskerville5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Maybe because it's different?
Personally I liked the puzzles and combat more in the first one and the story was better.

Bathyj3h ago

From what I've seen this game is worse in every way except graphics

andy855h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I'm confused how it's locked 30 on Series X tbh. Admittedly my laptop is a touch more powerful than a Series X but I'm getting 90-100 fps with low settings. Which is still absolutely stunning btw, even at low settings its the best looking game I've played (i play on high though, which I'm getting 60 with DLSS quality mode). I guess it's a CPU thing but surely it was possible

Skuletor2h ago

I noticed the same thing with Gotham Knights, when I was getting over a hundred fps and wondering how the consoles were stuck at 30.

Elda4h ago

The game is mostly walking around while hearing voices, then puzzles then battle sequences then a talking sequence then repeat.

Doomeduk3h ago

I have some stick drift on my controller,I started the game and an Amazon parcel came after a short but enjoyable chat with the driver I returned to see the end credits rolling

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Senua's Saga: Hellblade II Review by Video Chums

“If you sincerely appreciate masterful visuals, pitch-perfect audio, and visceral story-telling then Senua's Saga: Hellblade II is about as perfect of a game as you can get. However, those looking for substance gameplay-wise will wish there was much more to it.” - A.J. Maciejewski from Video Chums.

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badkolo10h ago

The game is ass, linear, less of everything but the graphics are amazing but its also a walking simulator with mostly rocks as your backround. But I am surprised at one thing, the silence amongst gamers when its comes to the series S, everyone was crapping on it and how its under powered and wont be able to handle upcoming games with crazy visuals, yet hellblade 2 on series s look stunning for a 200 dollar box. nothing but silence

Elda4h ago

Hellblade 2 output resolution on the Series S is no higher than 643p which is lower than 720p. The clarity must be blurry, for a game that's mostly walking the resolution should be much higher including the fps especially on the Series X.

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Senua's Saga: Hellblade II Review | Xbox Series X | NoobFeed

NoobFeed editor Azfar Rayan writes - The target audience for Senua's Saga: Hellblade II is certain to be narrow. This game is purely designed for fans of narrative-heavy games where the gameplay takes a back seat, as well as those who want to play the sequel to the original. Some portions are spot on, and other parts fail badly at maintaining the mood while attempting to stay true to the concept.

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piroh1d 15h ago

Similar to Heavy rain, Detroit become human etc. not my cup of tea. MS better port Forza Horizon/Motorsport to PS5 thx

Sonic18811d 14h ago

The only difference is the games you mention didn't take 7 years to develop and they were longer than 5 hours unlike Hellblade 2

jznrpg1d 13h ago

Heavy Rain had a great story too

anast1d ago

Become human had a good too. I'm not sure how long it took to develop.

Abear2123h ago

Detroit had tons of environmental interactions and branching paths. I replayed 3 times for different endings

mudakoshaka23h ago

No way! The games you mentioned are actual games with quicktime moments. A lot of interactivity too.

ChasterMies22h ago

“Detroit Become Human” is amazing. You should go back and finish it.

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Deathdeliverer1d 9h ago

Man…. I posted on another story about my initial experience… I guess this is the follow up. The game never ceases to impress graphically. The ONLY game I’ve gone into photo mode more with is Ghost of Tsushima. My screenshots from that game are actually my phone backgrounds. To the point, game looks great. However…. It’s boring as HELL. I’m talking play after work, like you do any other game, and you’re passing tf out because of the LACK of gameplay. To be real, the supermassive games are the only “games” with less gameplay than this. In fact, I think they’d be the best games to compare this to. It makes perfect sense why they’d look so good. There’s literally nothing else going on and it’s on rails. This game has gotten me back into the gym because given the choice between the two, the gym wins so I thank Microsoft for that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as is value. For me, this game thus far, is absolute bull and if I’d have bought it on Steam I’d be getting a refund and YouTubing the story. Since it’s a gamespass PC game I’m just dragging my ass through it. I seriously hope it gets better. I’m no conspiracy theorist and I have never (look through my history post police) blamed any company or website of being paid off. This game getting a 10 from anyone should be tremendously scrutinized. To be real anything over an 8 should raise an eyebrow. Personally I’m feeling 5~6 all through my soul but I’m not done yet. Guess we will see. I know gamespass may not be best for the industry, but thank god for it today. This game is a beautiful fully loaded plane crash.

Noskypeno15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

I blame it on trying to get Martin Scorceses approval, because anything trying to be fun and not serious is not "cinema". I kinda miss the time when Samuel L Jackson and Nathan Fillion were the only celebrities that were in games.

rpvenom15h ago

I literally feel the same way. I had very high hopes for this game. I tried it on gamepass on PC and super excited cause I did enjoy for the 1st one. But not sure if the gameplay mechanics aged over time or what but man.. LITERAL walking simulator at times.. and yes, really gorgeous game and graphics, especially if you mod it to have the widescreen bars removed and film grain removed. But outside of that.. its all walking, focusing your camera, then mashing attack and dodge with the same moves over and over again. Feels good, and looks great.. but it's so boring. Everytime I'm back to walking.. I felt like I was forcing myself to play at that point.

Jingsing1d 6h ago

Another mediocre score not reflected on Metacritic, surprise.

Abear2123h ago

M$ will control gaming media the last of this gen and next. Soon hopefully new gaming media sites will pop up, so many people in the comments here, a few of us could probably make it happen

__SteakDeck__22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

@Jingsing Don’t worry Edge’s review score will. Lol

XBManiac1d 2h ago

It is still 81 on Metacritic. It is a good game by the early reviews... well... as people finish the game and publish opinions, it is not 100/100 anymore. But many players seem to like it.

dveio1d ago (Edited 23h ago)

You can probably apply this for Sony or Nintendo titles, too, but:

If you look closer at the scores above 90 on MC and some of the outlets names, it at least raises a little red flag about some of the mags impartiality.

If they score HB2 with above 95, where will they go from there if HB3 improves on all the negatives?

It's a solid game, with benchmark graphics. But everything above an 80 (which is still a high-end rating for a 5 hours game with hardly any gameplay) seems like a stretch.

__SteakDeck__22h ago

@XBManiac Lol Yeah because those sites with Xbox to their name helped inflate the score. They did the same for Starfield. Look the game looks amazing. I would say the best looking ever on console. But, this is an interactive medium. If the gameplay is lacking, then a game should not score high. No matter how pretty it is. It’s sad that The Order and Ryse got far more criticized for having the same deficiencies as this game.

Jingsing20h ago

The Order 1886 got hammered harder because of the inherent bias in the US reviewer and preference toward Microsoft. Sony has to work much harder to give reviewers state side less reasons to attack them. Now with IGN buying out a large cross section of games media that job only becomes even harder for Sony and easier for Microsoft to get results. This is also evident on Youtube were there are for more active and prominent Youtubers who share this bias, Spawn Wave, ReviewTechUSA, YongYea, etc the list goes on.

Christopher18h ago

The Order 1886 got hammered because it wasn't a good game. The setting nor the writing could save it.

Rhythmattic1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Maybe "Ryse: Son of Rome" again? Ive not played Hellblade II ...so cant comment the game itself, just only on the fact the graphics look awesome.

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