There are plenty of super rare PS1 games that are worth playing, but at some of the prices quoted here? Ask your accountant.
Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."
Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?
All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.
And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.
I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.
If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)
No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.
anast,
"All these games are coming to PS5."
Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.
Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.
The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.
And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?
We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.
By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.
Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.
I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.
When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.
Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.
It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, PlayStation’s social media is already being peppered by disgruntled fans, desperate for the format holder to step up its livestream game.
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They need to buck their ideas up completely and rethink their State of Play shows in my opinion. If it's because they have nothing to show as any announcement will be years off then fair enough but then the question is why are they in that position.
Sony knew when Microsoft bought all these studios that eventually Microsoft would harvest all these games that were in development at the time of their purchase. They have had plenty time to prepare yet it just feels nothing has really come out of it so far. In the years since Microsoft bought Obsidian Entertainment, Ninja Theory and Double Fine around 2018/2019 it was clear they were ramping things up which they were as they went onto buy Zenimax in 2020 and then a couple years after Activision, two publishers with so many studios and IPs under their belt.
In that time Sony has decided to buy studios like Bungie, Haven and Firewalk Studios which are all GaaS related and haven't really put anything together to counter the new IPs Microsoft had acquired.
Everything from Sony at the minute is either third party games or this heavy PC focused most PS5 fans don't really care about.
However. If I was to be fair though and look at the other side of the coin at least they haven't announced games recently that could still be years away which is something that people seem to be giving Microsoft a pass with.
Yes the Microsoft show was great and hopefully it's given Sony a kick up the backside but most of the games shown like Fable, State of Decay 3, Avowed, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Perfect Dark and South of Midnight were games that were announced last year and before. The only brand new thing that really surprised me that's an exclusive was Gears of War.
Sony need to start going back to what made many people buy their consoles from the beginning, their first party games you couldn't get anywhere else with great single player experiences. Not every games needs to be AAA, they need to find a good balance.
I do feel Sony is holding off a lot of their big announcements for the Pro reveal. The last one was just to hold us over, the next one, especially now that MS has shown their hand, would be the strategic time to drop the big bombs once MS' showcase drops out of the headlines.
This nonsense again. No matter how successful playstation is year in and year, no matter how many good games they release year in and year out, you'll have someone somewhere whining that it's not good enough and that they need to return to some past era.
Oh for Christ sake man, this shitty attitude of yours is why companies can get arrogant because no one says anything…no one’s allowed because fanboys like yourself throw a fit with their pretentious “you’re not allowed to say this” bull crap
The same happened to Microsoft for years with their die hard fans.
Microsoft have had a good show this year and has shown we their studios are stacked, what’s wrong with speaking out and wanting Sony to get their shit together with how quiet they’ve been?
It’s people like you licking the boot of these companies why nothing changes.
So yeah I guess I am whining about this because as a fan I’d like to see change and don’t want Sony to go back to their arrogant 2006 self.
Jesus…
Weird that people list games like Perfect Dark which probably isn't close to releasing and all these games ending of this year or in 2025 as if Playstation didn't already have a ton more exclusives this year, but, conveniently forget this years releases like Gran Blue Relink, FF VII Rebirth, Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, Star Ocean 2nd R
Plus games like Zenless Zero, new Y''S, new Legend of Heroes, Silent Hill 2, Concord Death Stranding 2, Astrobot, Lego Horizon, Phantom Blade 0, Monster Hunter Stories 1 & 2, Tsukihime, Earth Defense Force 6 and many more not coming to Xbox as well.
The way I see it, the focus only GaaS has already cost us a ND game.
Foxtrot is not wrong. A good balance is the way.
So out of the 21games 13 are releasing on the PS5. Banger if a showcase though, their best in years.
Sony have released few bangers this yr rebirth helldivers rise of the ronin and stellablade ,which tbh I don't think was that good .but they have releases some good games this yr
"What are all the 1st party games that Sony's releasing this year ?"
They released MLB, will release Astrobot, remastered Until Dawn, Concord, Helldivers 2, published Rise of the Ronin and will do the same for Death Stranding 2. That's SEVEN games by Playstation this year. So you were saying? For Xbox we got what? Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Flight Simulator, Avowed, Age of Mythology?
Add in FAR more 3rd party exclusives and it's a wash.
Again there's not a single month where Xbox has more games or exclusives releasing really at any point this year.
If i was giving Xbox sh!t for the 10yrs of under delivering, you're damn straight im gonna get on PlayStations case when i see them heading the same way. And you know what? Ive been saying this for like 2yrs, and getting nothing but blind defense from people like you. NO! Something is off, i have been here for EVERY generation of PlayStation, hell every generation since the NES and Master System. This is by far the weakest generation ive seen, ESPECIALLY by Sony and i see no reason for it!
We are WAAAY past covid shut downs and recovering for those, no they are not "holding their cards close to their chest for the ms/ba deal" because thats done and over with, even if they were, why is it taking so long for so many of their studios? The only ACTUAL evidence we have to go on is the GAAS push, we've already heard from several sources that it's getting in the way of other major projects, we have OFFICIAL statements from ND themselves saying they it was taking too many resources from other projects and so they had to drop it. And right around that time Jim was announced to be leaving with no replacement ready, which does not happen unless you're pushed out.
These are decisions made, that can be unmade to get things back on track, some of it has, but i think they're making the poor decision to follow through as much as they can as not to lose the money they already dumped into all these gaas titles.
This "whining" is necessary, demand better, let them know not to do this sh!t again, damn right im gonna KEEP whining, cause this isn't the PlayStation ANY long term fan knows and loves.
@Foxtrot, feel free to live in the past if you want to, time only moves forward. Nobody is stoping you from mindlessly complaining about a hobby. I've likely been gaming longer than you, there has never been more great games to play and more ways to play them than now. Yet all we see from gaming media and on boards like n4g is negativity and complaining.
The problem is there is no competition. We can be mad at the showcase but they are still making tons of money and outselling the competition hand over fist so from their perspective why take the risks. We need someone to bring real competition otherwise they can sit on their laurels reading all the complaints while sipping on their chai tea.
This was actually a great showcase from Microsoft. Incredible games after another got to be honest.
With the exeption of fortnight looking Dragon Age. My pain was immeasurable.
How did it come from this..
https://youtu.be/rGbgcmNxFh...
Well I mean, xbox showcase was mostly multiplats. So if by a better show they mean Sony should spend some money to have multiplats revealed in a Somy conference to create a better show, Im not sure I agree with that. But I do think that Sony should reveal what they are working on.
This 100 percent execs need to stop thinking about the potential of a gaas game and instead work on what the fans who made them the market leader want
This Fanboy culture that's gripped NRG is turning me away from the community it's always been around but it's never been more toxic we can't criticise we most always love Sony it's garbage
Playstation owners get to play the majority of games shown during the showcase, which invalidates whatever point the tool, who wrote the article was trying to make.
I don't know, buddy.
I don't disagree with you on principle. But from my perception.
Sony's been putting up a very decent software line-up for PS5 so far, even for the 'lackluster' 2024 period.
But why can't we just appreciate what we collectively already know?
Sony's major first party titles over the last 15 years were always perfectly polished and very, VERY well received.
Whatever the 'Big Four/Five' are working on:
Give them time!
PS5 is a new hardware. And you can bet that the major first party studios want nothing less but to put out the same results they've done with the likes such as God of War, Spiderman, Astro's, Returnal, Horizon, etc.
This doesn't come within 3¾ years after PS5's launch. It just doesn't.
I would really appreciate it if we'd only accept this. Sony hasn't changed their commitment on story driven single player games. Hulst confirmed this on two separate occassions now.
The next Playstation Showcase will happen.
I think Jim Ryan is at the heart of it all. What he wanted, what he pushed , etc. What were seeing now is Jim Ryan's fruits. These two guys haven't even had enough time in for their big plans. I think Sony seen this and told Jim to step
Xbox definitely had better third-party showings, but I really just want Sony to start showing us first-party titles. There's got to be something new they can show us, right? And it can't just be one or two games, it has to be at least half a dozen.
I mean, at least we know Bungie isn't sitting idly by and Insomniac is doing Wolverine. But ND just cancelled their MP TLoU plans, what are they working on now let alone the second studio they have that's been quiet for 4 years now? Sucker Punch? Bend?
Did all the big studios have ideas that were canned and start working on new things? Was Jim Ryan that bad of a CEO that they veered that far off the path and are working their way back to it?
"I mean, at least we know Bungie isn't sitting idly by and Insomniac is doing Wolverine. But ND just cancelled their MP TLoU plans, what are they working on now let alone the second studio they have that's been quiet for 4 years now? Sucker Punch? Bend? "
If they hypothetically announce something like Ghost of Tsushima 2 and give us a release date within 6-8 months of it's announcement, something like what Bethesda did with Fallout 4s reveal at E3 then I would TOTALLY get their plans and why they've been so quiet. However if they end up announcing their titles and the release dates are still so far off despite being so quiet for years then I'm at a complete loss with it.
Having a change in strategy and only wanting to announce games when they know they are 100% going to release the same year is the only thing that will make sense and something I can totally get behind.
"Was Jim Ryan that bad of a CEO that they veered that far off the path and are working their way back to it?"
I'm still convinced his GaaS plans are why he took early retirement, after seeing issues with NaughtyDog being put on something they weren't comfortable with I think higher ups knew putting all their existing studios on these games was a bad move. Obviously they've had to see some of them out until the end but I think he's why some of these studios are so quiet because they've wasted time on live service stuff that just wasn't working.
That's exactly my problem, is even if they announce something, it's likely not coming out for about another year, the only time a PlayStation 1st party has taken longer than 3-4yrs between releases is it were in development hell. Seems like half their studios are in development hell.
Honestly it annoys me to see this about face defending this garbage when PlayStation fans have always been the more outspoken, more demanding fanbase out of the 3. Now all of a sudden we're defending studios going completely awol for 5+yrs?
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I understand wanting to know and being frustrated with not knowing. But what do we know? We know that they don't have any major releases for this year. That means no reveals till next year. Most of the games Microsoft showed are either not announcements or aren't coming this year.
Everyone has their own preferences and mine is to not wait. I want the announcement and I want the launch to be imminent lol.
For example I HATE the fact that Wolverine was announced so far ahead in advance. No more than a 6 month notice please!!!
People want to sit back and fight over showcases like it matters. Xbox showcase is a Playstation showcase now anyway so I don't care.
Also stop freaking out about Sony first party. I pray they don't fold to the mania and I hope the withhold info until the damn game is ready.
The time for silence is over. At least, I’m over it. Open the first party floodgates, while I’m still alive lol!
I've never heard of this rumor at all after Sony's SOP. In fact last year it wasn't even a real rumor. Colin Moriarty tried spreading his speculation off as a rumor. When Colin knew nothing at all.
The only thing they're gonna have is a pro SOP. Unless that's what you meant.
I'll keep an ear out for SOP rumor but so far I haven't heard nothing.
Sony's state of play's are NOT showcases. That state of play was primarily to show first party titles due this year and some indie titles due this year and early next year. They will clearly have a showcase to push the ps5 pro later this year likely in September.
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