Mass Effect producer comes under fire on Twitter

Mass Effect series producer Mike Gamble comes under fire from disgruntled fans after tweeting that he’d had the ‘hardest day ever’ and hinting at future Mass Effect 3 plans.

[Newsman]

Mass Effect 3 was bloody good cause EA send you games to preview. Good old Beefjack, whole article out of a tweet.

[JoeyTZG]

It's crazy how many articles are created from tweets, whether it's gaming journalism or journalism as a whole. It's like, " Peyton Manning said he likes warm weather" in a tweet, headline the next day. Peyton Is A Sure Bet For Miami! haha blah blah blah.

[da_2pacalypse]

to be fair the ending of ME3 was pretty crappy. I mean, it was literally taken right out of the original Deus Ex.

[TooTall19]

How is the original deus ex ending crappy? It may not be original, but I always thought the original deus ex has some of the best endings.

[snipes101]

I'm not saying that every tweet is newsworthy, but as someone studying journalism in college we are all learning very quickly that social media is becoming a source for news. Whitney Houston's death was broken on there almost 30 minutes before the press got to it. Joe Paterno's health was also being updated on there regularly the night he died.

As for all the ME3 hate, I'm having a lot of fun with it 13 hours in, I don't see where any of this hate is coming from and no, EA didn't pay me to say that. This is really just annoying actually. The man can't even make a freakin tweet without getting flamed to ashes by his "fans." No, I don't agree with the way the "from ashes" (or whatever it was called) DLC was handled, Im quite against it. But this is just getting ridiculous. The gaming community is so fickle and childish sometimes.

[Legionaire2005]

Actually Whitney Houston'd death was know a week before it happened, yes it was original a rumor on the net. This may come off as a conspiracy, but it was also suspicious that itunes mysteriously raise up the price for Whitney Houston albums like they know she was going to die. They claim it was a error, bullsh*t!!!! Why did Clive Davis continue have his party in the same hotel where Whitney died, and never take notice? Even Bobby Brown sister is suspicious of her death. Well people I digress.

I didn't get far yet to the ending of Mass Effect 3, but no game make decisions that truly effects the universe like Mass Effect does. I feel like the Command in Chief in the Mass Effect series than Fable 3.

[STONEY4]

Most of the hate is about the endings. I haven't gotten anywhere near that far yet though, but the game is really good so far. Tuchanka scene... ohh man.

[snipes101]

@legionaire...

-_- < that is what is called a plain face. That is the reaction I had to your comment on Whitney as it had nothing to do with the fact that as an ACTUAL, confirmed news piece, it was broken via Twitter before anywhere else. A rumor is a totally different story.

If you want to provide some links though, I'd read into what you said. Making claims without proof isnt a good idea on N4G message boards.

As for Mass Effect, YES Stoney the Tuchanka scene was incredible and moving and YES legionaire I have seen many ripples from the decisions I have made as far back as the first game. Even though sometimes it feels kind of like Bioware was going down a checklist of loose ends they had to tie up, most of the story threads have had satisfying conclusions. Im excited to see the end and Im hopeful it wont suck.

[ATi_Elite]

tweets and twitter are outta control.

I follow NO ONE!

[rattletop]

"You know, the one where you charge people $10 for a proper end to your plotless game.”

haha.

[badkolo]

i read that and laughed for 10 minutes, priceless

[hay]

I agree, but for a person who love Bioware since their beginning, anticipated and loved every game of theirs, potentially plotless sequel to amazing series is a dire sight and experience.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

Yawn... getting bored of these "fans" complaining about the prothean DLC.

I have not finished ME3 yet, nor am I looking to spoil it, but people need to understand that the DLC only adds a crew mate, maybe they were talking about DLC for multiplayer or something besides DLC, maybe a patch or other stuff. Me2 did the same thing with the arrival and no one complained.

PLUS IT WAS A VAGUE TWEET "Hardest.day.ever. If people knew what we were working on the would want to keep their copy of ME3 forever"

HE COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING...but people seem to always accuse them of DLC now.

These "fans" seem to go off on the slightest things... also how the hell do people beat the main game in less than 2 days... I mean did they play non stop?

I wish I had that kind of time.

"You know, the one where you charge people $10 for a proper end to your plotless game.”

I refuse to believe Bioware would pull a Square-enix on us..

sigh, I should stop coming onto the internet... and just enjoy ME3

[MaxXAttaxX]

His tweet says two key things:
1. He's working on "something" for ME3.
2. He urges fans to keep their copies of ME3(for whatever it is they're working on).
Conclusion: DLC

""I refuse to believe Bioware would pull a Square-enix on us.""
Start getting used to the idea. Look at the signs. Final Fantasy XIV and SW:TOR share one similarity. Guess what it is.
It's best to see it coming than to be shocked by it later.

[morganfell]

"I refuse to believe Bioware would pull a Square-enix on us.."

For those of us that were around, we said the same thing about SE. Now look where we are at.

[REALgamer]

I agree, how have people managed to finish the game in 2 days if they haven't been playing almost continuously?

If people hate the game so much, WHY WOULD YOU SPEND EVERY WAKING MOMENT PLAYING IT SINCE RELEASE?!

I'm guessing these are the same people who go and buy every new re-release of Star Wars, watch it each time it returns to cinemas and complain each time about George Lucas milking the franchise. Then they wait anxiously for the next one to throw their money at and complain some more.

[REALgamer]

@NathanExplosion: I'm sorry, where does it say he's working on something for ME3?

He says to keep your ME3 save file. Why couldn't that mean ME4, or bonuses in Dragon Age 3 the way ME2 and DA2 gave bonus armour and items?

[Gamer-Z]

@rattletop

Lol that one was pretty funny

[krazykombatant]

I haven't played this yet but, I'm interested in seeing what the endings will be that are causing such a ruckus... If it had anything to do with the reapers winning I don't think I'll be angry cuz it was something that occured to me... But if something different, idk it'll be interesting to play. But nice to see people bashing Bioware/Ea, this should show that gamers are not people who want to be stepped on and taken advantaged of.

Nice to see people take a stand.

[SneeringImperialist]

The ending is essentially the same no matter what you do lol.

[SageHonor]

Exactly and it invalidates alot of our previous decisions while taking away replay ability. Which is a damn shame considering the game is fun throughout. Those last 10 minutes fucked everything up lol

[Patriots_Pride]

Well is'nt this the same for almost every RPG except for Heavy Rain.

You might think that your choices matter in Fall Out, DX Human Revo, Dragon Age and the Witcher but in the end only a few choices matter.

[krazykombatant]

Right well that doesn't qualify entirely as a spoiler, but yeah from what I see everyone bitching, I got the idea that they went the DA:II route.. IF they did not... DON'T bother telling me what they did because I've not yet played the game and I won't for another 2 weeks so if you want to put spoilers put plenty of spoiler tags for those of us that haven't played or gotten far enough.

[SneeringImperialist]

You'll be so disappointed after you finish it man(dont get me wrong the whole game is sweet but then the ending pisses on you), i feel as if the past 5 years of my mass effect playthroughs have been such an epic waste of time, because in the end they didn't really matter they made no difference

Bioware has massively trolled us all. You should enjoy the game just don't expect the finale the fans deserve.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

@Patriots_Pride

You must never played The Witcher series because the choices makes a big difference and it changes the ending. ME3 ending is shit pissed me the hell off i wasted my time doing all the side missions.

[T3MPL3TON]

I'm more pissed that people actually bought this trash than I am at EA anymore. You people are the reason they keep messing up their games, it doesn't matter if they do because you'll buy it anyway. The ending was released two weeks before the game even came out and you still ran to the store to buy the game knowing full and well that it was gonna be full on retarded.

[knifefight]

Yep.
If it works, businesses will do it again in the future. Don't be surprised when things like this, day-1 DLC, and locked content on the disc become the norm. They wouldn't if we'd actually man up and let a few games BOMB now and then, but no, today's gamers buy everything -_-

[Tdmd]

I'd usually agree with you, but not on this one. Yeah, the ending might have been released before the game hits the shelves, but who would want to watch it on the internet instead of watching at your tv after getting there yourself? It's like reading the ending of a book before deciding whether or not to buy it... just doesn't make sense. I, for one, am extremely careful with spoilers on the internet.

[T3MPL3TON]

It's just being smart with your cash man, I don't hurt for money but if there are 12,000 red flags before I even play the first 2 seconds of a game I'm not going anywhere near it, I'm not gonna throw money at a company that has no qualms about screwing people over and has no qualms about utterly destroying their own game just to meet profit margins. If this was any other company in any other business people would be demanding change faster that you can say 'Go.'

[Getowned]

That really sucks about the ending it's like no matter what you do all your careful planing and making diffrent charaters to have diffrent ending was pointless because no matter what you get the same ending and it feels like every choice was for nothing.

The biggest thing I liked about ME was that it had a intresting plot and all the choices you made changed the game but to have a ending like that nothing matters at all.

In theeee enddd it doesn't even matterrrrr

[Ethereal]

I don't give a rats ass about these useless fans. Name another series that has achieved so much? Yes I have played them all and have loved every minute. At the end of the day, the gaming industry is still a business. They must make money to continue making games. I would like them to come out and state the cost of production, and advertising for this game. I bet many would be surprised. I am very impressed what the team has done and am eagerly waiting to see what comes next in the Mass Effect franchise. We brought day one DLC and online passes on ourselves in my opinion.

[OhMyGandhi]

"Name another series that has achieved so much?"

what do you mean?

[Tdmd]

"Name another series that has achieved so much?"

Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted, God of War, Hitman, Oddworld, Max Payne, Resident Evil ('till forth, at least), Zelda, Castlevania, Warcraft... none of those where lesser franchises in any way.

[Ethereal]

In regards to my question, I am referring the scope of the franchise. Running three direct sequels with import functionality in which decisions made in past games directly affect the overall story arch. Also, if you have cared to dive into the world of Mass Effect there is a ton of substance to the world they have created. This is not to say that God of War or Uncharted or Metal Gear Solid were lesser games, in fact they are just as good or better in some instances. I am purely referring to continence of the series and the personal aspect each player has with their decisions of the story.

[k4rma]

I'm trying my best to stay out of it all, but its like every other article is about ME3 just lately. I guess there isnt anything else interesting to talk about this month.

Anyway in my opinion its hard to be sympathetic toward EA and BioWare.

I think if EA would quit with the day 1 DLC and other money grubbing promotions then I don't think this fan backlash would ever have happened. I think much of this hate is carried over from ME2's release as well. I think many gamers expected EA to drop the milking, but instead it just got worse, so now all the rage is spilling out.

[honkyjesus]

I was completely expecting them to offer the day one DLC as free after the uproar. You can kind of see all the problems it caused the launch. Metacritic had to take down hundreds of user reviews that weren't positive, and still BioWare is acting like a hurt puppy.

[honkyjesus]

I finished this last night and it is shame they had such a beautiful ending followed by some baiting after the credits for DLC. And now two days after release they are already only thinking about DLC.

The game had a lot of promise and some great stories to tell. Too bad it was marred by some really crazy early dialogue, poor "squad" choices and a virtual litany of tech issues which made Skyrim seem like it didn't need a patch. Again, just a shame that BioWare is taking this game as a means to DLC instead of just creating the best game they could.

[Megaton]

It's a good game. I just finished it last night, and I would have scored it 9/10. There are definitely some issues, though. Moments where I just scratch my head and go WHHHHYYYYYYYYY?! (most of them happen at the end)

[Zephol]

Mass Effect 3 hace so many finals. Is the problems. >Is not direct game.

[Tr10wn]

Gamers Tears, hmm a good videogame name, take that one EA thats on the house.

[Mithan]

Mass effect three kicks ass. Fuck the losers.

[Canary]

I'd pay $10 for ending DLC. Honestly, if you care one whit about Mass Effect, or roleplaying games in general, you cannot be happy with the endings.

[portugamer]

ok, let's see how many games give you:

- 40+ hours of happiness : rare
- your decisions can influence the future:rare
- you feel you're actually the captain: none
- previous saved data can be imported and is used on sequel:none
- incredible story, maybe the first and last game you will ever play, this EPIC : none
- games where you can flirt with many women, based on your decisions and tastes :none
- incredible graphics, incredible different textures : few
- 10+ partners to choose from, each one with the power we want him to have : none
- helpful partners, who make you feel you're not alone on your giant quest : none
- hundreds of hours of conversation, many many npcs will say something : none
- incredible different weapons that you can upgrade, each with a different "touch" and great sound : few
- characters upgrades are really well done: few
- partners are really sensitive, and you really feel when you have accomplished something great - rare
- great sound and sound effects : few
- cutscenes, where you see your partners, your weapons, your clothes, everything in real time : rare
- huge universe to explore : none
- planets, people, weapons, cities, everything has at least one full page for description : none
- a game this big, with 0 torn frames : rare
- inexpensive dlcs with really great armors and weapons : rare
- games that you can't stop playing, and wish each game of the series could last 200 hours: none
- the most epic adventure about the universe and species in the future: none
- you can play as a woman or man, and can make them look like you, i did a face about 70-80% like mine: rare
- a series that would be an excellent reason to buy a ps3 or x360: rare
- so many different people and races, all spoken by a different voice, even a small and useless npc can say on or two phrases:none
- cities with so many stuff going on, so many npcs, so many actors, shops, sellers, dancers, news on tv, etc etc, i sometimes just stop playing, and look around, and admire all that incredible stuff,so freaking alive, that looks more like a blade runner movie : none
- incredible cheap for the content (i paid mass effect 2 like 15$ new, in europe, where games like black ops are still sold like 50$, with 0 reduction): rare
- incredible effects, like fire, absolutely awesome.on Illium, on samara mission, there are stuff burning, inside the building, i simply never saw a fire that incredible, even in uncharted, and God knows how i love uncharted series, the fire isn't that great. this samara level, on me2, the fire is so well done, with layers and patterns, and smoke, never repeating, you have to stop and see it): rare
- you can feel the difference in weapons, its powers, and not just the bing, bang, beeeeeng. powers are really different:few
- i could go on during 2 hours, trying to explain how great it, but i started my ps3, gonna play 2 or 3 hours on mass effect 2..........................

[Tdmd]

"ok, let's see how many games give you:

- incredible story, maybe the first and last game you will ever play, this EPIC : none

- helpful partners, who make you feel you're not alone on your giant quest : none

- huge universe to explore : none

- games that you can't stop playing, and wish each game of the series could last 200 hours: none

- so many different people and races, all spoken by a different voice, even a small and useless npc can say on or two phrases: none"

OMG, are you for real?! That was the most laughable argument I have ever seen at this site!
So, just to clear things up: you know, for a fact, that no other game before mass effect gave you an huge universe to explore, as well as (this is rich!) no other game before it have ever made you wish it would last 200 hours?

You must be new to videogaming. Seriously... I'm speechless right now. Fanboyism at it's best! lol

[ilovemyps3]

Lol, you must be one of those guys that couldn't sleep after the me3 dlc story.

You must be another 'call of gears: halo forzad wake' great gamer, who never played mass effect, don't give a crap about me3, but would still reactivate some gas chambers, for bioware staff.

The guy above wrote a big wall of words, and certainly spent 1 hour writing it. It's his opinion, people may disagree,like you, and people may agree, if they accept the fact most things he wrote are true, and that's how it really happens in real life.

There are smart people, who can accept a fact, and have a good and peaceful life, and there are all the others, who will complain about the smallest thing, and for whom complaining is some kind of pleasure, and are greedy and selfish: the guy will start a war if we ask him 1ct, for building, for example, an hospital, but no problem for drinking 6 beers in a row, or cigarettes.

Anyway, mass effec are great games, all the bad reviews on metacritics won't stop the game from selling, and the game will sell more than 10 million units, in a couple of months.
All you bullshit and hate will be useless, while mass effect 3 will stay in our minds forever.that's a fact.

[portugamer]

PLEASE, guys, haters, kids??..... the dlc story, you didn't like it, right? ok. you may be right. ok. but think how many times, in life, you are forced to do things and pay for things, many useless, but you still do and pay. microsoft forces you to pay 65$ every year, to be able to play online, when it should be free, but you still pay, right ? people couldn't play skyrim on ps3, during months, because it lagged, bethesda KNEW it was going to lag. but they released the game the same way. you couldn't play, but you paid, right ? black ops on ps3, connection issues, disconnections, many shitty problems on the sony version, but you still paid for it, right ? how many times you get that bigmac menu xxxL extra huge version, for a few more bucks, but after a few fries and little of soda and 1 or 2 small pieces of your bigmac, you don't feel like eating more, and you just throw away a lot of food, and the extra $ you paid for it, they go to the toilet as well. BUT you STILL pay for it, right ? activision is giving you a few new maps for the same game, and you pay 60$ every year. but you still pay, right ? that fuc-ing company has earned billions, with the call of duty games. that fu-king company could say "well, let's take 100 million $, from our 1-5 billions cash we have, and lets hire 200 developers, during 3 months, and lets build a freaking new graphic engine, to our beloved customers, they really deserve a new call of duty game with some great new tech, new textures, new boxes, new everything. 100 millions it's a lot of money, but hey, we made several billions with call of duty games, 100 millions is the least we can take, for a new graphic engine, to show our customers we care about them, and we want to say thank you". But NO, NO, NO, that company only grab the billions, make a few new maps, and totally crap all over your faces, you call of duty players.did you realize that ? but you STILL pay, pay, pay, and don't mind, right ?

come on, guys, for the last fu..ing time, please, stop all your hate, stop spiting and shitting on bioware. they gave you maybe 3 of your top 10 games of your entire gaming life, so please, shut up, stop crying about your fu--ing 10$ dlc, and go out,buy and enjoy that magnificent game bioware did FOR YOU. damn, is it that hard for you to understand ?

just try to imagine, in 2 years, bioware just does another game like mass effect, the same universe, new more stories, plot twists, everything they did on the mass effect world, but with 10 times more content, like "Mass distortion 1 - the beginning", with a 250 hours story, with maybe 5-8 times more quality, thanks to the ps4 and x720. can you just imagine it, for a few seconds ??can you ? great.

so please guys, i beg you, stop your hate against bioware, stop whining, stop posting useless crap, and publishing 1/10 reviews on metashitit.

and like me, start praying, praying, for GOD to make Bioware want to make a new game like mass effect, for the ps4 and x720. it would be truly amazing.

please guys, really. please. play mass effect 3, thank God for giving you the health, the eyes and hands, a comfortable couch, a nice and big tv and a nice console, a house, and the chance to have a job, so you can take 60$ and live your passion, during 40+ hours, on mass effect 3.

sorry for the long post, go on with the disagrees, i don't care.

Thank you my Lord, thank you Sony, thank you Bioware.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

tl;dr

[madcow60]

Ok,np.a,wdgafay.
Ypofs,sydhtfr,gtfoh, ancba.

Gth :)

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

tl;dr = too long didn't read. numbnuts.

[Pen15]

Um..speak for yourself. Your fanboyism is showing.

[susanto1228]

I'm glad I didn't buy this stupid game. 60 bucks in my pocket.
So what he's saying is "hold on to your copy forever so we can keep on selling you DLC so we can make EA rich?" Is this what gaming has turned into????? Seriously this is SOOO PATHETIC I'm NEVER EVER buying an EA ORIGIN game....EVER this has just tarnished the Mass Effect franchise it was much better when it was under the wings and helm of Microsoft this has turned into a SHITSTORM once again Bioware...It's who your in bed with....and ur fucked

[madcow60]

Saved 60 bucks.. great. But you have to give them to Microsoft,so they are kind enough to let you play online with other people.

Honestly, you're kidding, when you say it a bad game.

There are almost no games that let you make decisions, give advices, totally change the plot, and have many many many different ends.

For example, you can finish it with a male Shepard, choose a class, select the 'good' options, and see one ending.
Later, you can select a woman she-shepard, pick a different class, choose the 'bad ' options, during dialog, let some partners die, mix their powers,date someone else... Finish the games, and have a different ending.

You can have skipped some missions, with a saved game, and do those missions, with a different Sheppard and parters.

Endless great replay value, its what we have here. Endless.

Saying its shit means you, and the thousands people out there, can't enjoy a game that hasn't 'duty' on the title :)

[Simon_Brezhnev]

I disagree. All that damn hard work you do pleasing your teammates and doing all side missions just to get that piece of shit ending. It literally ruined the whole series i dont care how you put it. It has no replay value like bioware wants you to believe. Only characters i liked was Tali, Garrus, Javik, Joker, Anderson, Hackett, and Edi.

Both the endings are basically the same with very little changes if you did everything.

Oh and i never played a COD title only FPS im playing this generation is probably the new counter strike.

[baldulf]

Pay extra for a proper ending.

And people complained about Prince of Persia 2008 epiloge back then. "Didn't see EA coming!" -read it in Garrus voice-

[susanto1228]

I can almost guarantee you that if Bioware was still in charge there is no way in the hell they would of let this happen but they are in board rooms saying "yes sir" "yes sir" "right away sir" "more DLC, why yes sir right away" they are screwed and are just PUPPETS to their masters EA and EA is ruing a once proud and relished Developer who is being dragged through the MUD...BIoware used to be about pleasing the gamer and making great games but now they are just about pleasing EA and that's bad for us...."I am missing a great game??" Fuck that...I can dig back into my PS2 stash and enjoy a game much better than Mass effect 3 or dig into my Xbox games and bring out SWTOR II and enjoy the experience much better than this HORRID experience that is tagged to hundreds of dollars of DLC...Bioware is dead too me

[susanto1228]

Wow a 3.4 user rating on metacritic......thank GOD I didn't buy
this monstrosity they are ripping it up overthere

[catfrog]

if you bought the game knowing the problems that it had you only have yourself to blame