Epic Games Says New iPad Will Have More Memory, Higher Resolution Than Xbox 360 And PS3

"This new device has more memory and higher screen resolution than an Xbox 360 or PS3," Capps said.

[NYC_Gamer]

As it should since the 360/PS3 = like 6 years old

[fluffydelusions]

Yes...plus iPad still using archaic 4:3 resolution

[mabreu]

iPad also has one major gaming flaw>>> No physical controls.

I'm glad Sony and Nintendo went ahead and made portable gaming systems. The world will suck if every portable game is only controlled by touching a screen or physically move the machine.

[ZippyZapper]

^^^ accept for a USB port

[F7U12]

@mabreu

there goes that theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So HD gaming has come to the iPad first before consoles....oh the shame! lol

[mabreu]

@F7U12

Here is the biggest flaw of your argument and what I thought was obvious when you read my comment.

https://docs.google.com/spr...

207 compatible games out of 100,000+ games that are available work on this device.

[kikizoo]

"So HD gaming has come to the iPad first before consoles....oh the shame! lol"

ridiculous, consoles and pc are doing hd gaming 720 and more since X years.

and don't dream, ipad 3 has a good screen, but it's not capable of doing 3D games running at 2000X...720P uggliest game on ps3/xbox/pc will put to shame best ipad game.

[rezzah]

@F7U12

So your ideal world of touchscreen only gaming consists of analog only mechanics?

Must be a fun world of gaming in your head.

Even if they apply the other 8 buttons above the "analogs", where will the shoulder buttons go? And how accessible will they be during gameplay?

[badz149]

wow that looks super comfortable! /s

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Apple has just invented a new technology that out does six year old tech!

[admiralthrawn87]

and Sony and Nintendo didn't! 0.o

[Raf1k1]

Doesn't make much sense considering the consoles don't have a screen of their own like the iPad. Mike is saying the iPad's native resolution is higher than what the consoles usually pump out.

Comparing the resolution of a screen that's part of a device to a device that has no built in screen as though it's something to be happy about makes no sense to me.

edit: I'd like to see how well the iPad can run a home console style game like Gears or Uncharted at it's native resolution. Infinity Blade is a great looking game but only becuase it's camera views are very limited so that the iPad can put all it's resources into rendering only what get's shown.

[grailly]

I'm just not sure any company would develop a high budget game that would control like shit and would sell for 5$ max

[F7U12]

No? Not even if you have 150 million dedicated customers all w/credit cards, all itching to buy the next new app/game?

And I think Gabe/Steam have proven that when you lower the price for your wares you make a bunch more money than you would at the regular price point.

[BitbyDeath]

@F7U12, that's customers not gamers.
If anyone was to game on an iPad, it'd be casuals so it wouldn't matter what the game looks like just so long as it's simple and fun.

Hence why games like Angry Birds is popular.

[Frankfurt]

Uh... GTA, Square's massive iOS only RPG, Infinity Blade and dozens of more games released far above $5 bucks. Square Eniz' game was 19.99 and was still number one in sales for the first month at least.

[kneon]

@F7U12

Actually no, Gabe has said that pricing is perfectly elastic. If you cut the price in half you sell twice as much, but you still make the same amount of money.

[grailly]

that's not what perfectly elastic means...

[kneon]

Sorry grailly, I just used the term I remember Gabe using without even thinking about it. Yes it's the wrong term to use from an economics perspective, but he was saying it doesn't matter what they charge they always make the same amount of money.

[F7U12]

@kneon

What? Where did I say that it didn't matter the price point? No what I did say is when they reduced....reduced the price point.

"In fact, it dramatically increased sales. Illustrating his point, Newell showed the results of a Left 4 Dead promotion Valve ran last weekend, which cut the price of the game in half to $25. The discount (and promise of new content for the game) rocketed sales of the game on Steam by 3,000 percent.

"We sold more in revenue this last weekend than we did when we launched the product.

Still skeptical? Newell said that a weekend sale of one third-party title drove that game's sales up by 18,000 percent and units-sold increased 36,000 percent. It energized the user base, says Newell. When the sale ended, baseline sales were double what they were prior to the weekend discount.

Discounting games does not only increase unit sales--it increases actual revenues. During the 16-day sale window over the holidays, third-parties were given a choice as to how severely they would discount their games. Those that discounted their games by 10 percent saw a 35% uptick in sales--that's dollars, not units. A 25 percent discount meant a 245 percent increase in sales. Dropping the price by 50 percent meant a sales increase of 320 percent. And a 75 percent decrease in the price point generated a 1,470 percent increase in sales."

http://www.edge-online.com/...

[Intentions]

Yeah, it's still crazy tho, that an ipad will have better or equal graphics/res/memory than x360/ps3.

xD

[dedicatedtogamers]

As it should since the iPad3 will cost you at least $500 for a measly 16GB storage space.

[mabreu]

Would be nice to have Skyrim on the iPad but that will never work.

[Paradicia]

True.

Won't work without a physical controller :L

[LightofDarkness]

There's really nothing to stop anyone from making one, or hooking one up. If they could make a DS3 driver for Windows, they can do one for iOS.

[mabreu]

@LightofDarkness

Your right but I doubt Bethesda would put effort into making a game that only makes money off people who bought and iPad with X device that lets you connect an external controller which renders the iPad main selling point useless because it's no longer portable.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You can plug a Dualshock 3 straight into the Asus Transformer and it works with the games. Seriously. The same goes for the Sony S1 tablet.

Most tablets accept the DS3 via root because of the bluetooth link.

[Knight_Cid]

and yet with no controls and caps on shovelware you really cant do anything on it

[KillerPwned]

Physical controls buddy....physical controls

The specs are amazing but A lot of us just cant get the use of playing a major game using only touch screen.

Example go play GTA 3 on any touch only device amazing game looks great but the controls are the weak point.

[Sobari]

GTA 3 is a poor example, since it's a port of a game that was designed from the ground up for a physical controller.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

It seems to do just fine on my Xperia Play. :)

[sourav93]

It's possible for the the new iPad to actually "beat" current home consoles in graphics and gameplay. Hear me out.

What I wrote above would only be possible if a particular game is being rendered in real time on a server (like Onlive) and being stream to the iPad at it's NATIVE RESOLUTION. Then, just a ipad compatible wireless controller needs to be invented (like the onlive universal controller), then the iPad would certainly "win" against PS3/X360 as it is displaying the game at a much higher resolution. An issue is that streaming of the game at that resolution will require VERY HIGH bandwidth and broadband speeds, which isn't readily available to the majority.

Ergo, home consoles/PC ftw!

[LightofDarkness]

Cool, but it won't have a faster/more robust GPU or CPU, so big whoop.

Plus, lack of a standard controller for these devices severely limits options for gamers. No developer is going to make a proper game that requires a pad to play because they'd risk fracturing/limiting their potential user base.

Apple needs to release a gaming attachment for these things if they REALLY want them to be taken seriously as gaming devices.

[Toman85]

But does the Ipad get great games like God Of War 3, Uncharted series, Killzone 3, Gears Of War 3, Halo Reach, Forza 4, GT5, Metal Gear Solid IV, Mass Effect series, and so much more, ehh no

Just games that is fun for 5 min then bam I jump to my consoles and my PC!

[StanSmith]

It does have Metal Gear Solid and Mass Effect though. Dead space too. Granted, they aren't a patch on their console counterparts, but it does have those franchises. Dead Space and Mass Effect are full third person shooters too and not some top down mini game.

[Parapraxis]

Apple could EASILY:
- Enable HDMI out
- Enable Flash support
- add a controller peripheral (usb port for DS3 etc)

But they won't.
- They want to sell Apple TV
- They don't want competition from free flash games online
- They don't want core games on their machine, it doesn't generate the same sort of revenue.

[StanSmith]

I use Hdmi out on my ipad. I had to buy an add-on but you can do it. It's useless for games though as you still have to look at the screen to see what your pressing. That's why a controller is needed.

They do have core games already on iOS so you are mistaken there. Resident Evil 4, Dead space, Mass Effect, etc are all there.

[cheetorb]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Gears of War 3 or God of War 3 on my big screen w/ surround vs a pretty looking Angry Birds on a 10" screen....really no comparison in my book. Oh! And I can buy a PS3 and a 360 for the same price!

It's like Apple is paying all these people to try and compare the ipad to consoles.

Nothing against the device but it's not in the same category.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

What about Dead Space? Or any of the games on OnLive? You know...Batman: Arkham City? Yeah...you can play those on tablets/phones.

People assume only games like Angry Birds are on phones/tablets. LOOK HARDER!

[grailly]

tablet/controller just doesn't seem like a comfortable combo to me...

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Ok. So, now you're complaining that it's not "comfortable"? That doesn't detract from the fact that it HAS hardcore games.

Set the iPad on a stand. Play the game with a controller. Are you stupid?!?

[StanSmith]

@Myswordisheavenly

Dude didn't you get the memo?

It's cool to hate apple and any other forms of gaming on a touchscreen since they became popular./s

[sourav93]

@MySwordIsHeavenly I get your point. It does seem plausible to put the iPad on a stand and play with a controller. But, if I had to do that, why would I bother with the iPad in the first place. I would instead buy a games console for a cheaper price, which has a higher quality library of games, or if I HAD to use onlive, I would buy the microconsole to hook it up to my TV.

I think what these guys are trying to say is that for harcore gaming to exist on the ipad, or any other portable device out there, there needs to be physical buttons & joysticks so that it can be played while on the move e.g. PS Vita, 3DS, etc.
However, since that option is currently not available, the iPad will not be the "go-to" device for hardcore gamers, even though it might have hardcore games in its games library.

Putting the iPad on a stand and playing with a controller at the back seat of a car for 4 hours doesn't seem "comfortable".

[mttrackmaster38]

Or we could run Onlive on a cheaper, more capable laptop. Ipads are useless and over-priced.

[BattleTorn]

I think Apple braggin about this is great. I definitely puts pressure on Sony/MS to get going with next-gen.

It's hard not to imagine console-graphics on a portible tablet being somewhat embarrassing for console companies. (regardless of their tech's age)

[GamingTruth]

you know its this kind of talk that lets me into the knowledge that sony and microsoft are about fed up with crap people have talked about their platforms, and are going to release something that people arent expecting all i know is when sony and microsoft feel that they dont care about what the consumer is willing to pay for, you can hang it up for both pc and any other device as sony and microsoft easily could blow away anything and put a renderfarm basically in a gaming machine if they wanted to

[tiffac008]

Regardless of tech age?...

Your not actually disregarding the difference between the tech 6yrs ago from what we have (or will be getting) at present time?

Edit: Unless I misread what you meant, feel free to explain.

MySwordIsHeavenly (below)

Then you'll have to place your iPad on a stand (or position it somewhere) and use it as a screen to be able to play with a DS3. Which makes no sense when you can play on a bigger display with a gaming PC or a console.

[BattleTorn]

My point was that having publicity about how a tablet (a primarily non-gaming device) being able to outpower a current console (primarily for gaming purposes) can only reflect upon the primarily-gaming providers in varrying degrees of negativity.

Pretty much, I think it's good that Apple (non-gaming focused) is making the current (primarily-gaming) hardware look inferior. Regardless of the length of the gaming-hardware's lifespan.

[tiffac008]

So what your saying is, its Apple that is actually disregarding the age of the current consoles and is spreading propaganda that boast how powerful their new iPad is compared to the 6yr old consoles.

I can see how a lot of people who doesn't follow the industry could be caught by that but they won't fool the people in the know (which is probably in the minority compared to the vast market that is the casual consumer)

[dkp23]

I hope Halo 4 comes out on the ipad, i would just have to get used to the finger smudges on my scream, but it'll be alright.

[teedogg80]

Still don't mean sh!t if it doesn't have real buttons/analog sticks. "Yawn"

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

It DOES because you can connect a DualShock 3 to it via bluetooth.

What is everyone not getting about that?!?

[teedogg80]

I guess that would be ok. I'd still rather stick to my Vita though. Less bulky and easier to carry around.

[dedicatedtogamers]

iPad comes bundled with a DualShock 3 with native compatability for all games?

Huh, didn't know that.

:\

[DeadIIIRed]

Holding an iPad in place while gripping a controller with both hands doesn't seen very comfortable to me.

[RevXM]

Even if you can how many games are made from ground up to be played with a controller on the IOS platform? Or else it would be like playing angry birds on the ps3... the controller doesnt add anything to that game IMO, or infinity blade with DS3? uh well same thing I guess.

How many have both a DS3 and an Ipad?
How many of them are interested in buying IOS games that more closely resembles full console games on a system that more or less becomes stationary because of already being kind of big and then have to put it away and sit with a controller?

Hell VITA is the option there. Games of all sorts, most noticeble FULL console ones and its really a portable on the fly gaming device.
At home people will be playing PC/Ps3/360, some waiting for next gen consoles, but dedicated gamers with an Ipad will prolly only use it to play regular IOS games if they bring their Ipad with them somewhere.

True "console" games on the IPAD 3 wont happen overnight because developers prolly do see that DS3 + IPAD gamers is a TRUE and tiny little niche market. and IPAD 3 OR later only games.. yaya not going to sell like crazy.

[spirited]

higher memory and resolution just to watch movies...

[mttrackmaster38]

...with letterboxes because of the crappy 4:3 resolution.

[Convas]

Ehhh, I'll stick to consoles.

[CynicalVision]

Shocking, considering how they release a new iPad every year.

[the worst]

ipad has sh!tty games just like epic sh!tty games

[Seventh_Blood_Reborn]

Mmmk, thanks Epic ... come again ... see you ... yawn.

[DigitalAnalog]

**taps foot...

[NotSoSilentBob]

And with Apples launch prices it will cost 2x what the PS3 did at launch.

[CanadianTurtle]

They forgot to mention the part where it still has really garbage controls, so no good games will come out for it. Move on guys

[Ramses3]

With a 30 minute battery for game time....

[Ulf]

Anyone who thinks that iPad games will render at the native rez of the screen is *insane*.

It's GPU is likely, at best, 35% of power of the 360's GPU (unless they have somehow trumped the Tegra 3). Filling anything more than about 720x540 will cause the visuals to become severely shortchanged by a lack of shader cycles.

In short, does the 360 get more powerful if you hook it up to a 2560x1440 screen?

[M83_]

It's hard to believe but the iPad 2's gpu was more powerful than the tegra 3 so the A5X has really gone above and beyond it now. Say what you will but they're making good advances in mobile graphics.
That said though, nowhere near as close to consoles as they preach! Killzone quality on iPad 6? Maybe?

[josephayal]

And Crappy Games

[Venjense]

I think Apple's biggest gaming announcement would be some form of controller, until then I'm not that interested in it as a gaming device.

[TheDivine]

Touch games can be great also, people here praise escape plan and gravity rush so why are ONLY sonys touch games decent? You can also plug in a controller for gaming on vacation exc. If more games support this and more dev's support the ipad with full games it could be awesome. Also dont forget about onlive, stream full games to it and play with a controller. All things people bi*** about can be remedied. Im not saying its a console replacement or a handheld but if you like gaming it can be an awesome piece of hardware. I play good games on whatever platform theyre available on, if killer ipad games drop id prob buy one.

[mttrackmaster38]

What are you talking about? Escape Plan got shitted on in reviews and Gravity Rush barely uses the touchscreen. Plus, why would someone prop their pad up on a stand when they could just buy a cheaper, more reliable, and more capable laptop to run Onlive?

[blackburn10]

Just go and make Ipaad games and STFU.

[M83_]

Does anyone notice that most mobile games have good AA but they lack depth if you know what I mean. It's hard to describe but I mean graphical detail and ambiance.
Take Killzone for example, the world seems deeper and more fleshed out and then compare that with iOS/Android games like the new fighter jet combat game for the new iPad. I don't know I still think the console version of ace combat looks better in most aspects.

[coryok]

if it had less than 512 mb memory it would get laughed out of the market, of course its going to have more memory. and higher resolution? maybe a higher resolution proportional to screen size, but cmon, thats not real resolution.

sensationalist statement, probably trying to sell his horrible ipad game

[M83_]

I was really hoping for 1GB Ram and a quad core CPU but I'll see if they clock it higher before I scold them. I wouldn't call this a terrible game at all, it's one of the best iOS games on offer and considering good and original games on mobile platforms are very very few between I'll actually praise them.
I have an iPhone 4 but I don't game on it. Mobile games just don't cut it for me.

[coryok]

using touchpads exclusively for controls is pretty much going to guarantee a bad game

[OMEGAZONE]

The ammount of people using ipad as their primary gaming system is like 000000.1% so why should we care and why do these articles get + votes

[Titanz]

If so - developers will support the device, because it sells so well.

"We" (experienced gamers) might not like it, but it's good news for everyone else.