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Square-Enix gets dissed in rap song 'Letter To SquareSoft' (PSU.com)

Richie Branson is a rapper who is also proud to call himself a gamer – and a pretty ticked off one at that. He proves his gamer cred not by rapping about popping bottles in clubs, or mackin’ babes, oh no, no; Branson drops an open letter to SqareSoft (note: not Square-Enix) about how he misses the games of yesteryear.

Titled ‘Letter To SquareSoft,’ the song praises older RPGs like Final Fantasy VII, Kingdom Hearts, and Chrono Trigger, all the while scrutinizing Square’s last few years as a studio with lyrics like “I want the old SquareSoft back, I really mean it. That’s why I never called you guys Square-Enix.”

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knifefight4454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

The message of the piece kinda reminds me of this
http://www.gamerevolution.c...
"Angry customer: Hey! I ordered my Versus XIII Steak like forever ago! Feels like I've been waitin' 6 years over here! What's a guy gotta do?
Manager: Whoa whoa, sir, we're terribly sorry, it's just taking longer than expected. Hey, would you like to sample a medium XIII-2?
Angry customer: What? No, I didn't order that.
Manager: I know. No one did, actually, I was just hoping you might buy it. Hmmm...I wonder what I can do to make someone want this.
Angry customer: ..."

NewMonday4454d ago

the sales for FF13-2 are a disaster, so the fanbase voted

Idonthatejustcreate4454d ago

Just face it guys, square doesn't have ANY talented people left.

They don't have a clue how to make a hit like chrono trigger or FF7 OR what their fans want since it's been so long since they satisfied their customers.

Ranma14454d ago

I love Squaresoft, but SE is something else

Knight_Cid4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

yeah I hate the company thats given me dragon quest joker 2, ff type zero, ff rythm over the last few months..........NOT

I also loathe the company thats brining out draogn quest X,bravely default, kingdomhearts, dq monster 1 remake and more this year

Knight_Cid4455d ago

No they dont. 13 and 13-2 were amazing games. 14 there one failure. But I can list 50 great square games this gen.

It isnt even close

fluffydelusions4454d ago

@above...amazing? No. They were decent games but poor FF games.

Disccordia4454d ago

Id like to see you list those 50 great square games this gen.

Action GO FIGURE4454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

Please list those 50 Square games this gen!

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4454d ago

" No. They were decent games but poor FF games."

This is a retarded argument. Decent is decent it doesn't matter where it's from. They were decent games yes, but that doesn't make them bad because they happen to have Final Fantasy in the name, you'd enjoy it an equal amount if it was called anything else still.

a_bro4454d ago

Knight_Cid

you must have played those games while taking shrooms...

Elemental_4454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

Actually its pretty easy

Kingdom heart BBS
Kingdom hearts 365
kingdom hearts recoded
The world ends with you
dragon quest IV enhanced port
dragon quest V enhanced port
dragon quest VI enhanced port
draogn quest IX
dragon quest rocket slime 2
dragon quest joker 1
dragon quest joker 2
front mission 1 enhanced port
front mission 2068
star ocean 4
blood of bahamut
ff type zero
ff revant wings
ff tactics advance 2
ff crystal chronicles
ff 4 warriors of light
ff crisis core
valkyrie profile covenant
final fantasy III
dissidia 1
dissidia 2
last remnant
ff 13
ff 13-2

Not sure how many that is but I enjoyed all of those.........

Outside_ofthe_Box4454d ago

@elemental

Lol aren't most of those handheld games?

Name games on the 360/PS3 that SE has made that is GREAT. 13 and 13-2 don't count as those games are type rubbish.

Redprodigy4454d ago

@elemental_ and if not handheld, "enhanced" ports of old squaresoft games?

Disccordia4454d ago

Not to mention that front mission, star ocean and infinite undiscovery were only published by square

the only games theyve developed for consoles this gen are ff13, ff13-2 and the last remnant. none of which could be called great!

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Godmars2904455d ago

The same mentality that went into FF14 was there for 13 and 13-2. At least the eyes of many.

If you see it otherwise, if you actually liked 13 and 13-2 that's your opinion. But please don't look at their sales numbers - actual facts as opposed to only your own opinion - and call them successes.

Knight_Cid4455d ago

That doesnt make it right. And please dont say many, when its really only a vocal 1 percent.

Do you want to really look at sales numbers?

ff 13 was the fastest to 13 million and the highest selling since 7. 13-2 was a high sellling spinoff that was one of the best selling games in japans larget retailer/

Action GO FIGURE4454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

@Knight: Where did you get those numbers? I'm keen to know more... ;)

iamtehpwn4454d ago

FFXIII was a critically failure, not a commercial one. The game was pretty lackluster, but it was fasting selling Final Fantasy game in the series, and did sell 6 million units. Conversely, was also one of the lowest rated and generally disliked by most fans.

Godmars2904454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

It also hit the bargain bin quicker than any other title - so I'm not getting where you and Cid are coming from.

I and others have also repeatedly said that it was so bad, that Sqaure have so badly presented their intentions for continuing the series, that we wont buy another title until they show some honest sign of change and improvement.

When you talk about people buying FF titles - we are the people you're talking about!

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TitanUp4454d ago

did you play final fantasy in previous generations of gaming?

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Outside_ofthe_Box4454d ago

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Hojo0003 said: "SquareEnix does good games for non-HD platforms."

^^^ I agree with that ^^^

13 and 13-2 are disappointments...

Elemental_4454d ago (Edited 4454d ago )

1) Stop acting like handheld games are some how not as good. When handhelds are the top systems worldwide this gen. That point is moot. Square every gen puts the bulk of its games on the most popular systems.

Sorry the ps3 and 360 werent. But if I have to humor you I will include 13 and 13-2 since both games were amazing. Nier was great, as was star ocean 4.

Most of those enhanced ports were new games in at least 1 region. Dragon quest V and VI for example. They are essentially brand new games

ff rhythm just came out and I imported it and its AMAZING. KH DDD is very very soon.

They should be announcing even more amazing rpgs soon

and fyi you can hate on 13-2 all you want.

It received more 7-10 scores than kingdom of A. Now that is a bad game

I know its "cool" to hate on square, but mostly real rpg fans just laugh at the trolls who dont play the games.

Oh yeah ff type zero is the best action rpg of the gen. It puts shallow crap like skyrim to absolute shame in terms of characters you really care about.

Dragon quest X is also a day 1 purchase.

@iamtehpwn

So an 84 average is a critical failure huh?

Jeez, the trolls need better arguements

Outside_ofthe_Box4454d ago

You're just a SE/JRPG fanboy.

Nobody is saying that the handheld games aren't good. People just want a full fledged squaresoft-like console experience again.

Every real FF fan knows that FF13 and 13-2 are rubbish at best.

And why do people that dislike what SE is doing makes them haters? Do people that like what SE is doing make them blind SE sheep?

You need to troll harder element.

Ravenor4454d ago

If Skyrim was an Action RPG you would have been getting somewhere.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash4454d ago

Star Ocean was developed by Tri-Ace.

Elemental_4454d ago

@Your acting like its a crime being on the psp which is considered this gen.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/sys...

I hate to break it to you but when square broke there all time profit records this gen, it was because of strong performance of dq 9, ff 13, and other titles in there rpg lineup.

@outside

Great, the surest sign of a non arguement is when someone presents you with evidence and all they can do is cal you a fanbboy

The people who want console experiences again dont understand the market. POINT BLANK. And if they did understand the market, they would be greatful for what we are getting right now.

I am a real ff fan, and ff 13 and 13-2 were amazing games. I know its hard for you to see all the 7-10 reviews on hear, cover your eyes, ears and scream and pretend its not there.

Because people who dislike square for nonsense reasons are haters....thats why

Your the one who has to troll harder.

But of course you can ignore game lists, sales, critical reception, records, and call people who do trolls.

Outside_ofthe_Box4454d ago

...as PROVEN by Call of Duty/Activision unless you're going to defend that to LOL.

Yes you are a fanboy. Everything SE does is golden to you.

***"Because people who dislike square for nonsense reasons are haters....thats why"***

By who's definition of nonsense? Yours? Just because you love SE and FF13 and 13-2 till the death doesn't mean everyone else isn't allowed to express dislike for SE/13/13-2 LOL.

And why should I care about the market? The "market" is why developers insist on copying CoD. I'm not getting a cent from Square so I could careless if SE is making a profit by making games for the market.

Troll harder son.

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Action GO FIGURE4454d ago

@Elemental: That list is funny. Most of those games are on PSP, which is already considered last gen. PSVITA?

And you also listed FF13/13-2... /smh

Sigh... nvm...

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Godmars2904455d ago

This whole thing feels like a catch-22: Sqaure needs to do something right to fix themselves, only they seem incapable of doing anything right. Anything that they do comes off as a horrible imitation of the Western approach to current consoles, and those have been utter crap.

Redprodigy4454d ago

Sad to say, but the best thing Square-Enix has done lately is re-release old Squaresoft games. Their new stuff just isn't as great. Instead of trying to innovate while also catering to its existing fan-base, Square-Enix is completely ignoring the fans that grew up playing their games. I want them to make new original stuff, but they need to innovate in the same way they did back in the day. These days, it seems like their "innovation" is just a soul-less attempt at making a profit.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4454d ago

Here's an idea. Instead of bitching how they don't make games how they used to then buying their games, why not just not buy them? Money means a lot more to companies than your personal opinion.

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Square Enix Is Going Multiplatform; The Layoffs & Its Past Don't Inspire Confidence

After its latest games didn't meet sales targets, Square Enix is going multiplatform but the company's track record isn't convincing.

Scissorman11h ago

Square Enix been multiplatform for decades, a few exclusively-deals doesn't make them any less multiplatform.

fr0sty11h ago

Nor is selling their games on a console with only 25 million install base going to bring their sales to where they hope they will be... Unless they somehow manage to dumb down FF7 trilogy to work on switch, they aren't going to have much luck. They already released it on PC, after all.

SegaSaturn66911h ago

It kind of does, giving preference to a certain platform by timed exclusivity. Console ports generally feel superior. Legend of mana PC port extremely broken

neutralgamer199210h ago

Sega

It doesn’t when square themselves didn’t want to fund the development of remake. It’s only after the success of the 1st they realized their mistake but now contract is signed. If it wasn’t for Sony there would be no FF7 remakes. Same goes for silent hill 2 with Konami. They don’t want to fund AAA budget. Companies like PlayStation and Nintendo get blamed when in reality they are saving some of these franchises

Remember sega didn’t want to fund bayonetta and epic games didn’t want to fund another gears of war. It’s easy to blame console makers but they are the ones taking the risk and paying huge upfront costs without seeing the final product. FF7 remake trilogy won’t be coming to Xbox now or in the future. PlayStation and PC is what square signed up for. Sony paid them more than they would make from Xbox sales.

ravens5210h ago

I just wonder when everyone is going to demand that the Square Enix exclusives with Nintendo come to PS and Xbox. Or it's just the PS exclusives that matter lol

phoenixwing10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I'd love for the nintendo exclusives to come to pc or ps5. They'd actually be playable then.

neutralgamer199210h ago

Raven

Exactly and that’s where square enix does more exclusive than any other platform. Gaming is square has always been very unrealistic with their sales expectations. Remember when tomb raider reboot sold 7.5 million and square said it wasn’t enough. They need to spend less on development and have more realistic expectations from sales.

And those thinking games being not on Xbox makes a difference don’t understand we have a decade plus of data showing square enix games having less than 20% of their multiplatform sales on Xbox (final fantasy series) and Nintendo consoles aren’t strong enough to run any current games. Nintendo switch should be as strong as Xbox one x atleast but we all know that’s most likely won’t happen

RoadRacer9h ago

@raven

thing is, as neutral said in their comm, the switch isn't strong enough to run flagship SE games
i think what SE does is, it makes unique games for switch only so that it has something for that console too. Thats where all the "underlined sans" rpgs go to mostly

maybe things will change when Swtich 2 drops cuz that's gonna be as strong as ps4 afaik from the rumors flying around

TheGamingHounds10h ago

@Scissorman

Your point is valid enough but when the icon of this company is limited to one console in timed-exclusivity, it means the company has crossed the line. By some degree at least

All things aside, Square itself stated "aggressive multiplatform strategies" so we all know what it's talking about

Scissorman7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Then the headline should read "Square To Drop Exclusively Deals in Pursuit of A Sweeping Multiplatform Strategy". I don't recall this argument when Square Enix released Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy on one platform. And even if FF is the icon, not all of its titles have gone to one platform. We're talking about three games, one of which is already on PC. Did Square suddenly go 'multiplatform' after it released subsequent Tomb Raider sequels on more than just the Xbox? It's just a silly way of putting it.

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TheGamingHounds10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

SE needs to go all in optimization. Broken PC ports won't help its case, especially with big releases like mainline Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix10h ago

It's actually simple. What doesn't inspire confidence is Square allocating their budgets on the wrong projects such as Forspoken, Avengers, Babylons Fall and Foamstars.

Square has always been multiplatform since PS3/360 days which 80 % of their games are. People kick up a fuss over PS exclusivity but not Nintendo which has more exclusive projects console exclusive from Square.

FF16 has done ok but not enough to fix the blunders that the past mistakes Square has made with some of their projects. FF7 Rebirth is unclear we'll see a PC release for sure so it's hard to say so far not as good as they would of liked.

Then again unrealistic expectations. If it weren't for Sony these games would at least had another 2 years development time. So some people need to be realistic in that regard.

Scissorman7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's the blunders that set those expectations so high. If you remove those from the equation, I bet the sales numbers would be more than stellar. Square believes it's okay to release a pile of risky, middling, garbage because the big boys will ultimately subsidize the cost. Don't worry if Forspoken sells poorly, FF16 will surely sell 10 million copies to balance that right out. Oh wait, it only sold like 4 million. Well that's a disaster. Meanwhile games that sell 2 million units with comparable budgets are deemed successful.

thorstein2h ago

I would also add that FFXVI, which I loved has a hint to one of their biggest problems: the number 16.

It's a great franchise, but that's all they've become known for. Dragon Quest is my favorite all time series but it's like they don't know what to do outside of those two IPs.

Valve never makes trilogies. The idea is that they don't want to become stagnant. Gabe Newell hates the number 3.

I can't imagine their talent wouldn't want to try a new RPG.

RoadRacer9h ago

Square Enix just really need to revise its expectations. Maybe consider a change in strategy on dev end as well. Multiplat will help for sure but only good games that are marketed well will sell

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box3d ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

Outside_ofthe_Box2d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic

That's exactly my point...

gleepot3d ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

nommers2d ago

Marketing for SE has been poor lately so these layoffs make sense if true.

Profchaos3d ago

Yup videogame crash 2024 edition

_Decadent_Descent2d ago

Hope so. Industry needs a good crash to shake it up again.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername4d ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake4d ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica3d ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos4d ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername3d ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_3d ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces3d ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning773d ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde3d ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher3d ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson3d ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan3d ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan3d ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

MajorLazer3d ago

PS5 is nearly at 60 million only half-way through its life-cycle, but sure, the install base is not enough.

EternalTitan2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Good exclusives always sell despite install base. Look at Nintendo's recent Zelda.
Its just 16 was awful.

itsmebryan1d 13h ago

@major
It is not enough if it was Sony's operating income wouldn't be down 26% and the company would not have lost $10 billion of value after they missed their sales target .

Christopher1d 13h ago

Looks to me more like they need multiplatform because they've been failing completely everywhere else. Honestly, Square needs to rethink it's non-FF games. They've been failing hard over there in that regard.

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CrashMania4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz4d ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff21833d ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman4d ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware7304d ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde3d ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19893d ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal3d ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware7303d ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_3d ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk774d ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake3d ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19893d ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

gold_drake3d ago

14 is definitely brings in the a consistant cashflow

Charal4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast4d ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware7303d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast3d ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast3d ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto3d ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19893d ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

Charal3d ago

Anast I wasn’t expecting more from you and I haven’t be disappointed.

Don’t believe any number if you want, but things cannot be more evident that most of games companies are pushing to get the most they can from PC market.

Hell, we have both MS and Sony that are releasing their biggest franchise on PC with no or less and less delay vs console release, that is never seen before in the industry.

What is surprising me is that PC is not cheap in term of hardware cost, a rig close to PS5/XBX perfs may be close to double the price I guess, and close to 4x for a good gaming PC.
Plus, PC gaming does not have physical release anymore.

So a lot of supposed advantages from console market are not there but PC market is successful anyway, it would be very interesting to understand it.
Maybe one big argument is that we are more likely to need a PC at home, were we can work with, browse, and game, than a dedicated gaming machine. That why handled console market have been crushed by smartphones, we could see a repeating pattern here.

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Babadook73d ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

anast1d ago

PC has the potential to be a bigger player, but the market is smaller in terms of revenue nonetheless. People conflate sign up numbers with money spent on a product.

anast3d ago

You probably need to worry about yourself and your own expectations.

You still haven't even complete the simplest task in telling me the name of the website. Let that sink in. I asked for the name of the website so I can look at it and you couldn't even complete that task.

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