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'There simply aren't enough new IPs these days'

On last week's mailbox Steve Wood e-mailed in to say he's not completely done with the PlayStation 3 and doesn't want Sony to release the PlayStation 4 yet.

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Nate-Dog4479d ago

Well yeah, especially with unknown devs they have to often put in incredible amounts of money into titles and still end up failing a lot of the time. Look at Kaos Studios, they went with an FPS since that is one of the most popular genres this gen and so they weren't even really sticking their neck out their like some companies do with different and innovative games. It sells 2 million and they still didn't make enough and end up shutting down. It says a lot for the current market (not to mention the current economic market around the world).

Blaine4478d ago (Edited 4478d ago )

I didn't agree or disagree with your comment because I'm split. On the one hand, I agree that the market on the whole isn't easy on new IPs, but on the other hand, I don't think your example is a very good one. 2 problems I have with your example:

1. The FPS genre is crowded as it is. If a studio wants to make a new IP, that's a very competitive genre to break into.

2. 2 million sales is a very respectable number for a new IP. If that wasn't enough sales, then they set their sights way too high, and should have been more reasonable.

Most of the games I bought this gen were new IPs, and a few were sequels of those. And it's not because I feel a particular urge to help out new IPs, I just like their originality. And I don't mind if they're more reasonable in their approach because of the risk involved, I still choose the original game over the 15th game in a franchise that hasn't changed its formula since the second iteration. Example: Demon's Souls. It's easy to tell how huge an improvement Dark Souls is over its predecessor, but when you take into account the risks involved with making and releasing Demon's, then you forgive its cruder appearance! Same goes for the majority of the games I bought this gen.

Nate-Dog4478d ago

Well in terms of your point two that is my point, it was a brand new IP in a competitive genre but the most popular genre (arguably) this gen, yet 2 million sales and the revenue from it wasn't enough to keep the studio going. If a company can go into a genre with many many fans and sell so much and STILL not make enough money from it what's that to say about small companies that go into less popular genres and new and innovative IPs which not many people will play? The majority of people this gen don't seem to want to step out of their confined, set boundaries, they just want to play the same things as before because they know what to expect, be it recycled FPSs or HD remakes.

bumnut4478d ago

Im glad Kaos failed, they should have noticed that they make crap fps games after frontlines.

CrimsonEngage4479d ago

Not sure if serious. There are plenty of new IP's. The problem is people want to keep buying the same games *cough*cod*cough* and not try anything new.

soundslike4479d ago

Even with that element, the amount of new IP's today compared to 10-15 years ago is downright laughable.

LX-General-Kaos4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

There are plenty of new IPs. If you really think about it, most of the games are new IPs

LX-General-Kaos4479d ago

completely agree! There is a huge difference between having new IPs, and new IPs that people buy. The top selling game on all consoles all the time are sequels. This generation there were loads of new IPs. Unfortunately we have spoken against them with our wallets.

fluffydelusions4479d ago

There were not loads of new IPs compared to to other generations.

LX-General-Kaos4479d ago

Bioshock? Mass effect? Uncharted? Assasins Creed? Dragon Age? Infamous? Gears of WAR? Left 4 Dead? Dead Space? Lost Planet? Demon Souls? Alan Wake? Binary Domain? Project Rainfall Games? heavy Rain? The Last Guardian? Motorstorm?

I can seriously go all night with this! Those were just some of the more popular ones. There have been plenty of new IPs. We gamers have just become a greedy bunch and always ALWAYS want more. Nothing wrong with that but there are enough new IPs for a generation or two.

maniacmayhem4479d ago

Agree with the general, there were loads of new IP's people just remember two weeks of their past and never see the new games and then this nostalgia of yester year that makes them think there was a brand new game released every other day.

Catherine? El Shaddai? Lost Odyssey? Little Big Planet? MadWorld? Crackdown? Kameo? Dead Island? The Last of Us? Skylanders? Just Dance? Homefront? Frontlines? Shadows of the Damned? The Club?

Yes I could go on for a while. People need to join gamefly so they can experience all these different games and then they would know that there are plenty of new IP's out there.

Dasteru4479d ago

Just read another article like 3 days ago that said Nintendo released something like 75 new IP's just in 2011 alone.

Think i have to agree, the problem isn't lack of new IP's its lack of people knowing about them. most people only pay attention to the same old ones they have been playing for the past 10 years. COD/Halo/Gears/FF/GTA etc.

Unless it something major that has been heavily advertised on gaming sites and/or hyped up. All the less than triple-A titles just slip through the cracks.

Drummerdude414479d ago

I feel like a good way to overcome price/bland issues is if bigger studios hired smaller ones who have good visions and new ideas and aided them by providing professional teams to develop their IP.

Elemental_4479d ago

luminous arc, inazuma eleven, tweny, last story are just a slice of the new ips Ive loved

Play2Win4479d ago

Great and new IPs is what defines a generation. Not every year a improved sequel of a game that once was amazing.

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How EA & Xbox Are Defining Gaming's Bleak Future

Xbox and EA have recently made baffling moves that define how bleak the future of the gaming industry is with major companies at the helm. Ryan Bates from "Last Word on Gaming" posits in this op-ed that maybe it's not ineptitude, but intention.

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Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Name someone that isn't trying to look us these days maybe cdpr.

Take two, ubi and yes even PlayStation are pushing us to own nothing and be happy with our live service ad injected games on a sub so they can raise prices at will and take access away when they see fit.

If it keeps up I'll be a full time retro gamer and this industry will be crashing hard

As rediculas as it sounds we need government reforms to defend consumer rights

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XCOM's Jake Solomon Q&A - Building a Narrative-Driven Life Sim Game at Midsummer Studios

XCOM and Marvel's Midnight Suns director Jake Solomon has founded a new studio to make a life sim game. Here's a new interview with him.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz2d ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate2d ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts1d 22h ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16241d 22h ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg1d 18h ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC1d 17h ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

PSPSA1d 9h ago

I'm not convinced, why then announce that they're actually working on the next-generation Xbox with “the largest technical leap”, and also looking into handhelds now?

Rols1d 8h ago

Not like MS don’t drop things a hot potato if it is not performing. Look at MS history to see products or platforms discontinued. Xbox is not a charity for MS, it needs to make money and the ABK was the last roll of the dice for Xbox.

purple1011d 6h ago

Xbox hardware team members have been incorporated into surface team

This perhaps shows they are not expecting big things from Xbox as a separate entity

Abear211d 4h ago

Seems like they are planning to win next gen. All the acquisitions were this generation and nobody except Xbox fans expect games from the acquisitions any time soon.

I’m sure Microsoft can afford to lose money on the short term, pretty sure they do risk assessment when acquiring many companies and spending billions, they’ll be fine lol.

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gold_drake2d ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit2d ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS1d 23h ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies1d 21h ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT2d ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor2d ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21832d ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot2d ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit2d ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal2d ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS1d 23h ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box1d 23h ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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