Hideo Kojima Says He Would Have Made Metal Gear Rising Slower and More “Bushido”

Kojima-san said that if he had made Rising, the outcome of the game wouldn’t be as speedy as the game they are making now, and in fact it would be a lot more Bushido-esque.

For reference, let’s take a look at the trailer for Rising:

[Batmau5]

I'm a fan of the direction Platinum's taking with Rising. AWAITS MAD DISAGREES AND LYNCH MOBS

[Micro_Sony]

I am also a fan of fast paced games like Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta and Vanquish.

PG will do this game justice, I know MG is Kojimas baby and he does not trust anyone with it but he should relax and focus on ZOE 3. PG are awesome and have created some gems this gen.

Edit 1 @Shunass - I have to disagree. All of the MGS games have been nothing but fantastic with MGS4 being the best game that I have played this gen - the man delivers so he is not overrated.

Edit 2: One thing that is bothering me is how people are trying really hard to downplay this game with out even having enough info on it.

Sure it not your slow based, stealthy MGS game but that does not mean that the MGS franchise and universe can not branch out into different genres (See MG AC!D).

I am sick of seeing these articles about Raising not being a MGS game and its going to fail. The game is going to be made and no amount of complaing will change that. Remember that Konami owns MGS and is the boss of Kojima so you trying to downplay this game only hurts the MGS franchise.

MGS5 will come but for now people should just let fans of MG and hack n slash enjoy this game and moment with out complaining.

[MysticStrummer]

I am sick of seeing these articles about Raising not being a MGS game

It's not a MGS game, which they've acknowledged by dropping Solid from the title. Now Kojima says he would have done it differently which proves what I've been saying all along... he's barely involved in it's development. Rising is an action game that's cashing in on the popularity of Metal Gear. If that's cool with you, then have fun. Downplaying this game does nothing to hurt the MG franchise, but hyping it up potentially does.

[ryhanon]

@Mystic

Yeah, but Kojima saying he'd have done it differently makes literally no damn sense. I'm sorry, but Kojima himself established Raiden as a badass, crazy-fast, cyborg ninja in MGS4. To even suggest that a game with Raiden as the main protagonist would be a slow-paced bushido-like experience is crazy. It would have pissed off everyone that wants to play as the kickass Raiden we all saw in MGS4.

Maybe the game will suck, maybe it will be great. Who knows? We won't know for sure until we get our hands on it. But the bottom line is, if you're going to make a game focusing on Raiden after he became a super cyborg ninja badass, you had better make it fast paced and action packed.

Now, if Kojima had said: "If I made this game I wouldn't have named it 'Revengeance', I mean seriously, how stupid is that name anyway?" - I'd absolutely agree.

Edit @below

"If Raiden is a ninja, shouldn't he act like one sometimes?"

Point taken. However I'd point out that this is a pretty short trailer that isn't necessarily representative of the entire game.

And besides, the early footage was Raiden sneaking up on watermelons. It was Metal Gear: Fruit Ninja. I dunno about you, but that didn't get my blood pumping.

[MysticStrummer]

I don't know, it makes sense to me. The early footage and info implied at least some stealth elements, but now the game looks pretty different. If Raiden is a ninja, shouldn't he act like one sometimes?

[Fylus]

I don't like to think of Rising as an MGS game at all. It's just a spin off. Just like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel". People need to stop complaining.

[GoToTheOptionsMenu]

Yes, but the thing is we already have those great speedy hack and slash games (ninja gaiden takes the crown though) and it would be cool to see a ninja game at the speed of mgs4 character movements. Mgs4 had slower movement which pushed me to be more stealth and I didnt just rush past the artistic graphics.
This game should have that stealthy feeling especially for someone like raiden who can explode at any second and then calmly walk away (like my wife XD)

[kaveti6616]

"Maybe the game will suck, maybe it will be great. Who knows? We won't know for sure until we get our hands on it."

People make up their minds about the game before they played it. All the superfluous information that we've read and heard about the game, such as who is developing it and Kojima's level of involvement is political and has influenced judgment. I myself think it's crap compared to the original E3 showing, at least aesthetically. Some say that the graphics took a hit because it runs at a higher framerate. While that is true, the guys behind SW:TFU2 came up with a method of smoothing animations while keeping their game at 30frames per second. Platinum Games should have utilized this tech, because the graphical downgrade compared to MGS4 and compared to the original build of MGSR is damnable.

[Kurylo3d]

people call it a spinoff to try to justify how bad it is, but lets face it. It has one of the main characters from the metal gear solid series (The main character from metal gear solid 2).. and it is butchering his plot and story which was supposed to be finished in mgs4.

Plus its making him do things that are just impossible.. i dont care how strong you are!!! you cannot pick up a metal gear ray and throw it... you have not enough mass in your own body to pivot that kind of motion or stick to the ground. lol

All you people who like this sort of thing need to go back to playing a game as corny as bayonetta... metal gear is supposed to be real life mixed with technology. Not a sword that can cut through giant mechanical monsters.

[SilentNegotiator]

"I am also a fan of fast paced games like Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta and Vanquish.

PG will do this game justice"

That was more or less a direct contradiction. Bayonetta's "Make a million pattern-less combos" hack n slash style doesn't match with Metal Gear. Vanquish's broken energy system that discourages getting close while having a boring cover system (that is usually broken by bosses anyway) and extreme shortness doesn't match up with Metal Gear. Easily the most overrated developer of this generation, if you ask me. Oh, and the much more competent (non-P.G.) Ninja Gaiden and DMC are nothing like MG.

So why will they do it justice?

"To even suggest that a game with Raiden as the main protagonist would be a slow-paced bushido-like experience is crazy"
-
It's coming from the man himself, so.....are you suggesting you know Metal Gear better than its creator?

[showtimefolks]

Micro_Sony

actually Kojima himself chose PG to do MGR. AS a long time MGS fan i can tell you i am interested in MGR but i also have my doubts on what it will and will not deliver. PG are not known for doing great stories so a MG games need a strong story.

If and when i play MGR i will go into it knowing well that Its not made by Kojima so my expections will be low but hopefully OG game can deliver a total package great combat,great story and a well polished finished product.

[DW74]

GoToTheOptionsMenu,

We had that. It was called Tenchu. No one bought it. And that sucks. Was really hoping Z would be great.

[STONEY4]

Guys. Watch the long interview on the official Rising site. Kojima actually PERSONALLY picked Platinum games. Before, in late 2010, Kojima was ready to CANCEL the game. It wasn't coming along, and he basically told the team that they were taking too long and they had no sense of direction and weren't working together. He said the team was too scared to do anything without him.

So he contacted Platinum Games, gave them what was done with the project. 3 months later, PG shows them an alpha of the improvements they made to the game and gameplay and... just watch the interview. It's about 20-30 minutes of what happened to the old Rising, and how it got rebooted.

Their whole goal from the beginning was to be able to make a scene like the Raiden Gecko fight playable by a person. Kojima actually thinks that PGs style was exactly what they were looking for.

[snipes101]

No shit Kojima would have given the game a more deliberate pace. When has he ever made a fast paced game besides Zone of the Enders? It's in his blood to make Tactical Espionage games.

How about we just wait for the game to come out instead of bashing it based off of one (admittedly) hyperbolic trailer? Oh wait, its teh internetz. Common sense doesn't apply here!

[Christopher]

I'm not sure of the direction of the game, I just think the trailer was mediocre, at best. All those RE-SOMETHING, the same boring slicing, and then all that time for us to put together what they mean by REVENGEANCE!

It looked like one of the Robot Chicken 'trailers' they do to make fun of movies.

[CrzyFooL]

After Bayonetta I trust P* to make another awesome game, even if this isn't the "Metal Gear" fans have been waiting for.

[kaveti6616]

It will be an awesome game for fans of the genre, of which Platinum Games are experts.

Brand recognition will lure in MGS fans and of course, they may be disappointed if they had expectations of a stealth-type game.

[ryhanon]

I agree. I think what Kojima is trying to say is "If I had made Rising it wouldn't look nearly as badass as it does right now. In addition to being boring and slow, it'd take control away from you every 20 minutes to play a 45 minute long cutscene to showcase my cinematic directorial genius! I AM KOJIMA BOW BEFORE ME!!!!"

*ahem*

Excuse me. Anyhow, yeah. I agree.

@below

As I recall, E3 2010 gave us a pre-rendered cutscene that did little more than announce the game. Oh yeah, then we got to see some watermelons get cut into tiny pieces - basically it was Metal Gear: Fruit Ninja. Only the most die-hard MGS fans cared.

It actually looks like a game now.

Also, regarding Kojima saying he'd have made it a slower experience... wtf? After everything Raiden did in MGS4 it wouldn't make sense for a game with him as a protagonist to be a slow "bushido-like" experience.

[firelogic]

Clearly you haven't seen the E32010 gameplay footage. MGR is a generic hack and slash now.

And what's up with the absolutely shitty animations for Raiden?

[yesmynameissumo]

I kinda like the Kojima game you described more than the "Bayonetta with a dick 2012" trailer we saw Saturday.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I don't understand how you can make a 'generic' hank n' slash game. There are barely any around...
Besides that this game looks like an action game, not Dynsasty Warriors-like hack n' slash. There's a huge difference.

[MoveTheGlow]

Bushido Blade Solid! Make it so, KojimaSquareEnixBandaiValveetc ...

[stevenhiggster]

It just looks like Vanquish but with a sword, especially the bit in the trailer where he slices the guy into a million bits.

So yeah if you liked Vanquish that's good. Personally it just went from a must buy to not interested.

[gaden_malak]

I love how people think this game is now crap and generic based on a clearly deliberately over-the-top made trailer.

[HacSawJimThugin]

I concur...PG has proven to be one of the best this gen and after seeing what they are doing with Rising, I'm even more excited. Who cares there is no stealth, this ninja doesn't need it. I'm so glad the muzzle is off and he will be allowed to go H.A.M on the world.

#YourDisagreesDontMeanShitToM e...Chuuch!!!

[NeloAnjelo]

I don't mind the gameplay elements and mechanics that Platinum games have in Risisng. The fast gameplay will be fun I'm sure as they are great at this.

My condern is the story. It was meant to take place between MGS2 and 4, and we were supposed to know how Raiden became this way in his quest to take on the Patriots... Also, at the end of MGS 4 Raiden was at peace with Rose, with him no longer being a Cyborg.
However, this takes place after MGS 4 which throws that idea out completely and doesn't fit in with that ending.

I will still pick this up though. I'd like to know why MG Ray is in the game and is it a new model... if so, who made it? The guy fighting raiden looks too much like Vamp (but can't be given the lack of his heat shot scar)

Give me the gameplay... but also a good Story.

[ruiner4482]

The thing I don't understand is the stupid name. Revengence??!? Are you serious? That is the dumbest made up word, EVER. It's worse than Infinite Undiscovery.

[Andreas-Sword]

I think Metal Gear Rising is better than the other Metal Gear games!

[Shaunass]

Kojima is overrated :P

[NegativeCreep427]

Even if you had all his money and resources. So what would that make you? Non-rated?

[Inception]

look's like shaunass need some medication -_-

[Shaunass]

It looks like you need some basic grammar lessons.

[blaze22-qwerty]

Kojima is NOT overratd

[NeloAnjelo]

Go point and shoot something.

[Lord_Sloth]

So...Are you TRYING to lose your bubbles or something?

[jaredhart]

Any MGS game has my immediate attention, but this game doesn't look like a MGS game and so far I'm not impressed. Hope things change and I am proven wrong.

[FunAndGun]

to be fair, it is not a MGS game, it is a MG game.

[WitWolfy]

I think he means he hope it has the same quality story line a typical MGS game would have. No use having a the Metal Gear Universe ruined by a spin of like Rising.

[Vagrant]

Interesting.

[WetN00dle69]

Agreed!

[Godmars290]

Kojima-san, I respect you and all, but don't you dare come in from the sidelines of this project now, especially when others have been working on from the actual beginning, to say how you would have done it.

Not that I wouldn't love to see a cyber-samurai game as apposed to the standard - if massively bloody - slasher this game now promises to be.

[Kurylo3d]

Why cant he... he needs to distance himself from this project as much as possible. It may have kojima productions brand on it, but he wants to let people know he is not responsible for this peice of trash. I would do the same thing.

[Kurylo3d]

Why cant he...? he needs to distance himself from this project as much as possible. It may have kojima productions brand on it, but he wants to let people know he is not responsible for this peice of trash. I would do the same thing.

[Nacho8706]

I'm actually impressed with how many fans of the MGS series have taken a liking to this. The only MGS game I played was MGS 4 when I was young but didn't really enjoy the gameplay.

[ryhanon]

"The only MGS game I played was MGS 4 when I was young"

...

"when I was young"

... it only came out three years ago.

Man I feel old.

[Ascalon94]

wow what are you 13?

[wenaldy]

Im going to slap you with my MGS4 copy but i refuse since you're just a kid.

[Ryo-Hazuki]

I would have liked a more "bushido" style like Onimusha (since Capcom can't bring the series back) but its platinum games so its in great hands. I love Vanquish and Bayonetta

[terrorofdeath]

Why can't they bring Onimusha back????

[Whitefox789]

Can't trust Capcom with its IP's anymore.

[Deadpool616]

Because Capcom has lost their minds.

[Pikajew]

People have to remember you are not playing ad Snake in the game

[Megaman_nerd]

and people need to remember that is not Bayonetta. Oh wait... What is this?

[SmokeyMcBear]

Rising looks retarded.

[Ascalon94]

off topic but, how do you have so many damn bubbles?!

[Reborn]

He's a mod.

[Takoulya]

You actually post outside the forums? TIL...

[Kurylo3d]

It doesnt look retarded. It is retarded.

[kuro2010]

Metal Gear : Rising ? cut and paste of Ninja Gaiden ? lazy dev run out of idea ?

[Lord_Sloth]

This isn't about Miyamoto bleeding Mario dry. Stay on subject!

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Plat games didn't make ninja gaiden...

[gypsygib]

I was hoping the sword would 'cut' everything like before.

[Deadpool616]

Cutting through everything created gameplay issues. If you're able to cut through anything, what can pose itself as a challege? Nothing really.

[gypsygib]

Getting shot before you cut a guys hand off.

[Mrmagnumman357]

Rising looked great at e3 2010, now its just another game i wont play.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

I kinda thought it looked alil too fast pace for a metal gear game...but let's see the outcome....looks good so far

[Theyellowflash30]

In MGS. 4 when raiden fights the combat isn't slow and Bushido..... its fast and action packed. Making a slow paced game with raiden would directly contradict the cut scenes in MGS 4 with raiden in it

[ryhanon]

Exactly. If it was a slow bushido-like experience people would have complained it was nothing like Raiden in MGS 4 or the "Lightning Bolt Action" that was promised originally.

I think this looks pretty good. Definitely on my radar.

[P_Bomb]

Actually, most of the time Raiden was pretty evenly matched with Vamp and wasn't doing anything speedy enough to make Wally West and Barry Allen proud. Vamp even "stapled" Raiden's arms to his own back. Very intricate CQC, no 15-swipes-a-second decaps. Watch the final splitscreen Raiden VS Vamp battle http://www.youtube.com/watc... . He wasn't Neo-Raiden. The Frogs had him beat & backed into an armless corner before Snake hit the killswitch to end the game too.

[Megaman_nerd]

I've been saying this exact same thing on almost every article but for some reason people seem to believe that the Raiden of MGS4 was capable of beating Metal Gear Rex with his bare hands just like he did with Ray on Rising's trailer.

I mean, Raiden shouldn't be able to beat a Metal Gear with his bare hands that easily because then what would be the point of the games being called Metal Gear if they are so weak in the first place?

[TVippy]

Nope, that's not what he meant. Did you see the 2010 trailers of the game???? That's what he meant, and it's not THAT slow.

[zerocrossing]

I would have rathered the Bushido-esque Rising game Kojima described, but I'll give this over the top action game a chance.

[TheBlackMask]

But I wanted to cut everything to pieces....not slice a guy like five times before he dies. Even cutting wooden beam to make stalls/roofs fall looked fun

[Kakihara]

I thought I was the only one at the time but I was really looking forward to this from the first trailer which made it seem like a Metal gear solid game but based around samurai rather than ninja. It seems from these comments I'm not alone, I also have to agree that it looks pretty awful now they seem to have turned it into another arcadey hack n slash.

[TVippy]

You weren't the only one. I thought the announcement of this game was the biggest thing of the 3 previous E3s.

[Kahvipannu]

I wish he would had made MGS4 slower, more like sneaking, instead adding gazillion guns in it.

Late on the train again I see. Tought I would love to see new Bushido styled game.

[YourFlyness]

Kojima produce Bushido Blade confimed???

[Killman]

I noticed that the gameplay AND the graphics seemed quite downgraded from the e3 2010 trailer. :|

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Probably due to it being 60FPS now as opposed to the original 30FPS.

[gigreen]

From what I saw in the trailer, I agree with Kojima.

But I guess you just have to enjoy it as another quality Platinum Games action title instead of something that has anything to do with Metal Gear.

[banner]

At first I was like, yea.... I know how slow Kojima likes his games to be... I'm ready for Something new!

But after the video I agree. It just looked too fast pace for it's own good, a metal gear game being compared to ninja gaiden, bayoneta, devil may cry etc.? The controls better be deep if they want to compete in that genre.

I must of missed something, I know it's not a metal gear solid game but I would of never thought the franchise would take the hack n slash rout.

[n4gisatroll]

Ya...that's why its a spin off now.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

'the controls better be deep' well the guys who made bayonetta and devil may cry 1 are on board, so I don't see them making a shitty action game.

again action games = hack n' slash.
That's like comparing Dynasty Warriors to God of war or ninja gaiden. They are nothing alike.

[banner]

It doesn't really matter what you want to call it Hack n slash, action. the games mentioned are mostly about swords or some type of sword with a screen full of guys to slash through.

You can compare dynasty with gow if you want but we both know along with everyone else that gow is the better game in all aspects. So IMO they are alike when it comes to fighting it's just that dynasty isn't on the same level as ninja gaiden or gow.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Right now its looking like "press xxx and yyy, you will be sucked"

[n4gisatroll]

The colors are soooooo off imo. It's not a Hideo Kojima game, and you can see that. It's wayyyy to colorful and I don't care much for it anyway. I dunno, I was gonna give it a chance but this isn't even metal gear anymore.

[danielle007]

.. Really? The colors? That's what it boils down to?

... Why wouldn't you see what the game actually is when it gets closer to release and judge it then, instead of just being like OHEMGEE THERE'S TOO MANY COLORS. MY EYYYYESSSS..

[n4gisatroll]

...It's my opinion. I don't like the scheme they are going for, to me it doesn't look like Metal Gear. I still think its not that cool of a game, and I'm glad it's not cannon.

[Kluv]

oh my gosh, a series does not have to stick to one genre. Let them make a fast-paced action game in the metal gear universe, it's not going to change the games that already exist. A series is allowed to split off into different genres. Hell, Mario has even split into every genre that exists. We all expected MGS4 to be the last, so just be happy that this at least was able to be developed. Anyways, the action-game fan in me wants something with a story, and metal gear can deliver that.

[BlackjackCF]

Either way, I look forward to the next Metal Gear. It'll be a different type of game, but I have hope that it'll be good.

[Noticeably_FAT]

He would have slowed things down, made the story lack common sense and direction. Then he would have put in 19 hours of cut scenes that explained nothing.....

[ryhanon]

Are you on the design team of the next MGS game? With a vision like that you should be sitting right beside Kojima.

[-Gespenst-]

Yeah I wasn't really interested in dicing people. I just wanted to cut everything else to bits.

Much preferred how the original looked. It seems you can't have a hack and slash that isn't completely batsh!t insane these days. Which is why a new Onimusha game would be nice.

[kevnb]

How else could they make a game based on raiden not suck? it has to be over the top craziness, which storyline wise fits in.

[mooper50]

its called mgs2

[DOOMZ]

SLOWER?!? Nah, looks good as is!

[Colonel_Dante]

Hideo. Your direction is better.

[Nunchez]

I still don't get it why he doesn't intervene. If he isn't too happy with it can't he give Platinum some ideas to improve it or something? Or maybe he's too busy on MGS5!

[s45gr32]

Well in the E3 trailer raiden was capable of slashing columns, enemies one slash kills. Now is just another xxxx generic slash game. What is worse is not about raiden rescuing sunny.

[RespectedDesperado]

Originally it was set to take place before MGS4. So in a way Raiden would be slower since he's learning about his cyborg body.

[droc1123]

First off all the people telling others to stop complaining need to stop their complaining.. If I choose to I will Complain about this game all the way till its release, then buy the game and absolutely love it and then ComPlain that I didn't love it enough and all of u will have to deal with it so please stop ur complaining about others Complaints . Thank you

PS. Metal gear rising looks dissapointing to me!!

[TopDudeMan]

I think it would've been nice as a stealth-action game if it got the mix just right. Hack and slash just isn't really my thing, though.

[Ninjamonkey82]

When someone steps away from a game and puts his trust in another dev team his opinion should be left at the door. I see no sense in destroying the games appeal before its even out the door. makes no buisness sense.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

In my opinion, this is a very unprofessional, not to mention unnecessary, comment from Kojima. If he's happy to put his faith in another dev team to uphold the MG franchise, then he should do just that and leave it be, no remarks like this.

[Tdmd]

In other words, if Kojima was making this game it would probably look cooler.

[mamotte]

You know what they say. If you want things to go your way... do it yourself. But, now that you dropped the ball, dont complain about it.

[Roper316]

he is to bust twatting on twatter to actually make a game these days.

[Enigma_2099]

Question... if you people prefer Platinum Games' approach to this game as opposed to Kojima's preferred method here, why the hell did you want him involved in the first place?

If that's the case, make your own d*** Metal Gear Rising game and let Kojima do something else! It's clear that his opinion of the game doesn't matter to a lot of you...

[danielle007]

I'm confused.

Are you telling anyone that likes the Platinum Games approach of the game more than Kojima's idea- which isn't even being made or an option at this point - should make their own Metal Gear Rising? Because .. Platinum Games is clearly already making it, so they don't have to.

[Enigma_2099]

Stay confused.

Or better yet,

http://n4g.com/news/903716/...

Just read through some of those comments. Maybe then you'll understand.

[TVippy]

Oh, God, people... do you feel it? I certainly feel that it was destined and it should've been "Slower and More “Bushido”". That would be a unique game for sure, at least. The game we were shown several days ago is... I hate to say it... generic, compared to what it could've been, if they kept their strategy.

[Game3s]

Bushido brown lol

[danielle007]

The thing is Kojima says he likes it, and he says he's proud of what they've accomplished.

With Platinum Games, you know the combat will be suuper tight. I'm excited to see what the game will be.

A bushido game is something that could be a possibility for the future, but I don't think Raiden is really the slow paced type. He seemed very speedy in MGS4. Maybe he meant a slower paced game in general or not quite AS fast combat as portrayed in the Rising trailer .. Who knows, he didn't really elaborate. The combat in Rising is definitely quite a bit more speedy than what was shown of Raiden in MGS4.

[Slyfamous]

Well these guys made Bayonetta, firstly didnt like the game, secondly the story made no sense what-so-ever, thirdly "Revengeance" has got to be the worst sub-title of any Metal Gear title, just for comparisons sake: MGS:Guns of the Patriots(Brilliant) as apposed to: MGRising:Revengeance(Sucks). I am along time MGS fan, MGRising might have MGS characters but it is not a Metal Gear game and the fact that Kojima was not involved this game will prove one thing, the genius of Hideo Kojima.....or should I say lack there of.

[bunfighterii]

Personally I think this direction is wrong for the franchise. To me it looks just like Vanquish with an MGS skin. I'll reserve judgement until I actually play it but early signs don't impress me.

[coaidant]

Slower like Metal Gear Solid 4's 15 minute cutscenes

[J86blum]

It makes no sense if he wanted Raiden to Bushido, I feel this is a put on the spot thing again with him, because why would he slow him down since in MGS4 he already portrayed him as fast, gravity defying, ship stopping cyber-human.
I only say this because it seemes some people are tight around the collar about him not doing this title, but remember folks he gave the ok on the team change, and personaly in my heart I hope it means he can look to MGS5 as his new project.

[nan0]

Any respect raiden earned in MGS4 is now lost. This did look cool. The old vid with the move examPle. It had depth. Now it's span one button bob stop. ._.

[D3mons0ul]

How in the hell do you know what controls you use in the game? How would you even come to the conclusion that you just spam one button? Making shit up? Trolling? What? Why?

Why do you have so many bubbles?

You don't even know if the old build had "depth" because nobody knew those controls either.

What, do you work at Konami? Get the fuck out of here with that.

Bash the game based on what you've seen, don't draw stupid conclusions out of your ass and pretend you're some kind of trololol.

"It had depth"

[byrnezy]

5 Hours of hack n slash... no thanks

[adamant715]

Why is Kojima treated like he is a god or something? O_o I just dont get it