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Gamespot Editor Fired Over Kane & Lynch Review?

Kotaku.com heard an unsettling rumor today from an anonymous tipster that longtime game reviewer Jeff Gerstmann from Gamespot has been let go. That wouldn't necessarily be newsworthy, but the conditions under which he was allegedly dismissed were. According to the source, Gerstmann was fired "on the spot" due to advertiser pressure for his review of Eidos' Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. A visit to Gamespot shows that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game has taken over the site very prominently, with backgrounds and multiple banner ads all pitching Kane & Lynch. Allegedly, publisher Eidos "took issue with the review and threatened to pull its ad campaign."

Jeff's review was certainly less than glowing. He assigned the game a 6.0, otherwise known as "Fair" on the Gamespot scale. The game is currently enjoying a Metacritic score in the 65 to 69 range, which the site describes as "mixed or average reviews." According to our tipster, it wasn't necessarily the score that was reason for Gerstmann's rumored axing, but the "tone" of the review.

Gerstmann has been no stranger to controversial reviews, as his scores of 10 for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and 8.8 for The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess had sensitive internet users up in arms. It's now possible that many bitter fanboys may have had their wishes for his firing granted.

Relcom6022d ago

They ruin all reviews for all consoles. By blowing one thing that bugs them out of porportion. Remember, "to much gameplay is bad" quote from them. WTF???

BrianC62346022d ago

Isn't Jeffy the editor in charge of reviews on Gamespot? He'd be the one who assigned idiot Aaron Thomas to review Ratchet & Clank Future and gave it a 7.5. I'd rather think Jeffy was fired over that fiasco than over the Kane & Lynch review.

TheIneffableBob6022d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the boss of GameSpot (not Jeff) assigns reviews to the reviewers.

Anyway, props to Jeff for not giving into advertisers, even if that meant he lost his job for doing so. I have a lot of respect for him now.

Gamespot-equals-EGM6022d ago

I never really liked Jeff Gerstmann but, if this is true and he did get canned for this reason, I feel pretty bad for him.

Couldn't the executives at Gamespot or CNET kind of had a talk with Jeff and the other editors behind closed doors and just said 'Hey cool it with the negative reviews. Some of these companies are giving us a lot of ad revenue.'?

If this is true, it sucks Jeff was made an example of. To me, its not really about GS the website, its how the situation was handled managerially.

But we don't know the whole story. Maybe the exec's at CNET DID ask Jeff to edit his review and he just said 'Fvck you' and they said 'Bye, you're fired.'

AddisonW6022d ago

Thank god that loser Gerstmann got his ass fired.

Talentless little punks with big mouths like Gerstmann are what has ruined game reviews and turned them into the total joke they are to gamers this generation.

Sayonara Gerstmann you turd on the shoe of the gaming world. The gaming world is slightly better place without you.

Itachi6022d ago

how about

He was the skid mark on the underpants of society

Ben stiller Dodge ball

Gamespot-equals-EGM6022d ago (Edited 6022d ago )

The video review is still up, man Gershmann is ultra-harsh in his video review. Enjoy n4g users!

On Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

marinelife96022d ago

That does give you a little bit more of a glimpse into how review scores are determined.

BrianC62346022d ago

Bob - Regarding Jeff Gerstman, back when Aaron Thomas did his hrrible review of Ratchet & Clank Future I searched gamespot.com's site for titles. I don't remember Gerstman's actual title but it was something that would have him in charge of all the reviewers. I believe he was in charge of all reviews.

SlappyMcTaint6021d ago

I say, fire them all and start over with new, fresh people who have signed a contract that binds them to criminal charges for taking money or bribes of any kind taht sways a review-bias from game companies and console makers.

When "same old gameplay" is rewarded on one console and "too many things to do" is dinged for another, there is something way the fcuk wrong!!!

I'm sure M$ will hire them since they suck on the M$ shlong anyway...

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toughNAME6022d ago

no more salary...no more Microsoft pay cheques

toughNAME6022d ago

haha nono im kidding

I still have my common sense

unlimited6022d ago

i hope somebody in 1up get fired for review because they seem to riding on microsoft double balls..

Mr_Kuwabara6022d ago

Oh so this was the bastard that gave Zelda: Twilight Princess a 8.8.....

Karma is a b!tch eh Jeffy?!

ktchong6022d ago (Edited 6022d ago )

Boycott Eidos, Kane & Lynch, and all their future games.

Seriously, Jeff Gerstmann is one harsh reviewer. He gave BioShock like a 9.

ThichQuangDuck6022d ago

I would join you in that boycott if eidos didnt make hitman or freedom fighters 2 otherwise have fun with that

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dragunrising6022d ago

Mass Effect is the best game I have ever played. The story, game play and graphics are all top notch. The immersion makes you feel like your Commander Sheppard from beginning to end. The frame rate you speak of is not perfect but doesn't hinder game play in any way. There is more dialog in game than in many novels; I don't understand your comment about lack of options in conversation. Play through the game as "good" and "bad"...then you can talk. If you are going to judge the game on graphics and "limited" dialog choices alone, I'm not sure you play games for the same reason as other people do.

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nobizlikesnowbiz6022d ago

Has there ever been a 'perfect' game?

To me a 10 isn't a perfect game, but a must-own game.

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pizzavideogames6022d ago

If this is true, I'll be staying away from Gamespot and Cnet from now on.

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Anyone else not blown away with graphics these days? Me neither

Talal writes: "I'm talking about having that rush of excitement - that feeling you get when you know you've just made a memory for a lifetime."

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OptimusDK1d 14h ago

There are different games. Some have gamplay at it highest priority, some have the story, some have the replay value and choices... There are a lot of different game experiences.

It is laughable that just now graphics does not have anything to do with that experiene. We have had many games of that type over time. This is just the one that have come closest to feel like playing an actual movie. Just look the the Digital foundry walkthrough it is a masterpiece in that perspective and hence wrth trying. But yes do not do it for the gameplay - but that was never the goal of this experience.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!

Lightning771d 6h ago

Pretty much my thoughts. They were technical marvel's on PS and still are. The moment Xbox puts out a graphically intense game is doesn't matter suddenly.

4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. Glad to finally see it in its glory.

fr0sty1d 5h ago

FFS, gaming journalism has really gone downhill. At least hire people with a basic grasp of grammar... "Me neither" means the exact opposite of what the "author" is trying to say. That's like saying "I could care less"... lol.

S2Killinit1d 5h ago

Maybe because the gameplay being dull allowed it to have the amazing graphics and people are not as impressed by graphics alone anymore? I mean there is a lot of sites saying the story and the gameplay are lackluster. So what are we supposed to enjoy then? Cgi graphics are beautiful but since they arent interactive, they dont impress me as much as they used to. Thats an extreme example, but you get my drift.

Terry_B1d ago

When Playstation (Sony) does it..its usually a great game and not a cinematic experience..or at least something new at the time..like Until Dawn back in 2015.

1Victor22h ago

@gamer:” It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!”

The game looks as good as any other PlayStation game in my eyes why can’t you and the other hardcore Xbox be happy about it and drag PlayStation into every conversation and force PlayStation hardcore to look into the game and find flaw that most games have in one way or another.
@light: “ 4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. ”
Yes at that time it was only possible on PlayStation SSD how ignorant of you to think that after 4 years the technology wouldn’t evolved and move to a industry standard 🤦🏿I wish your mentality wasn’t so naive and narrow to post stuff like that 😩 in a year or 2 a new game will come out that might look better, it’s the nature of the industry.

Now that the distraction is gone I feel that is a good thing that the graphics in games are starting to hit the rooftop and hopefully the developers will put more thoughts into story and gameplay mechanics than just the next shiny oily skin of old.

Reaper22_22h ago

So true. Not surprised by all the negativity. It's a really good game and looks better than any game I've ever seen. GOTY nominee for sure. Like I said before, sony screwed up big time by not purchasing Ninja Theory.

Asplundh16h ago

Pretty much. It's like how the Switch and Steam controller using haptic feedback in their controllers wasn't a big deal but then Sony did it and it was then a "game changer".

fr0sty16h ago

The game runs at as low as 21fps... That isn't much to brag about no matter how good it looks.

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MajorLazer21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

We've had graphical gamechangers before, such as Crysis but those games still had gameplay to compliment it. Hellblade pretty much has none, and only achieved such graphics through being incredibly linear and having very small, closed off environments where very little is happening.

Vx_17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

GFX does not mean anything if the game is boring. It is simple like that and these major companies need to understand this simple concept.

Games are like your lady, she may be beautiful to look at for a while but then it gets boring if her character isn't interesting and fun to be with.

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Kneetos1d 13h ago

Mario kart 8 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sonic18811d 13h ago

Horizon forbidden West has great graphics and great gameplay

GamerRN1d 6h ago

Yeah but graphics don't matter, remember?

anast15h ago

@RN

I've been pretty consistent in saying that we need both.

VincentVanBro1d 8h ago

I agree and I actually think Forbidden West looks better than Hellblade 2. I easily prefer looking at it at least.

Sonic188117h ago

It does look better in my opinion as well. I don't know why it looks better but there's something about the Decima engine or that guerrilla games is using tricks that we don't know of

Abear2113h ago

Can you fly a mount under water in Hellblade 2? I think not! One of the best moments this Gen

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill10d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow19d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill9d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb9d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

HvNzSoul1d 2h ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnessacery Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games.

HvNzSoul1d 1h ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnecessary Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games, they just weren't 100% focused on stealth with Conviction and they remedied that in Blacklist. The only thing they have released recently that I was disappointed with was Watch Dogs Legion, and Skull & Bones. Everyone seems to be salty about the misleading trailer for the original Watch Dogs and The Division. Which are also, both good games, and actually Watch Dogs seems like it was ahead of its time even with all the trailer drama (having gone back and played recently, can say the game didnt deserve all the flak). Yeah the misleading E3 trailer that had better graphics than release is understandable to a very small degree, when most Teaser Trailers, or Game Demo's only have that portion of the game developed so they use the highest quality assets of w/e they have being showed, or what they are showing was made purely for the showing, allowing for extra polish . As to the gripes about minor game design changes, or cut features upon a games release just goes to show how unknowledgeable most gamers are in terms of how game development works or to even understand what what the hell a WIP, let alone titles still in early development.

Good games from Ubi since 2014 (Year that SC Blacklist Released) include:

Watch Dogs 1 & 2
The Division 1 & 2 (Although I had a hard time getting into The Division 2 at first)
R6 Siege
Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint
Immortals Fenyx Rising
AC Origins, Odyssey, MIrage (Haven't finished Valhalla games too damn long)
Far Cry Primal, and 5 (6 also has a length issue)
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
Prince Of Persia The Lost Crown

Haven't played a couple of titles those being For Honor (played at launch but didn't honestly give it an actual go), The Crew, R6 Extraction and at the time of writing this xDefiant.

Even if you absolutely hated any of the above titles, they aren't inherently bad games, they're just good, but not always top quality either.

I say give Ubi credit where credit is due, they at least fix games post launch if they start out rough, Breakpoint is an excellent example this and is such an enjoyable experience now compared to it's launch.

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A Matter Of Trust: What The Game Industry Should Do To Win Gamers Back

Skewed and Reviewed have written an Opinion Piece covering issues in the gaming industry, how current issues were issues years ago, and what can be done to help restore consumer trust.

anast15d ago

Nothing. It's up to the gamers to stop consuming content from companies that they don't agree with.

Garethvk14d ago

How do you know if you agree with it or not unless you play it? Which without conventions forces gamers to rely on trailers. Perhaps Demos should be made more frequently. But companies need to do better as well.

anast14d ago

Wait until release. Watch Gameplay. Exercise patience.

Garethvk14d ago

But is that not what they have now? Tons of gameplay or are you talking about watching actual gamers play it versus the trailers and streams? The big issue is that some companies pay streamers and influencers and they create content but for me; that is hardly a fair, unbiased, and factual look at a game.

1nsomniac15d ago

Get rid of the suits in the industry and job done!!

Garethvk14d ago

They usually are attached to the money sadly. It would be nice to have gamers in charge but you have so much money invested that business people are needed. Hence the issue; you need people who know business but are also gamers who know have an eye to the community. It sounds simple in theory that if you give gamers quality games that they want to play; money will be made. But that is not always so.