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Is "Emo Dante" The New "Douche Cole"?

VelocityGamer writes: Remember the whole Cole MacGrath debacle? Well if you are a Devil May Cry fan or are capable of reading you probably know that you and fans like you are more than a little upset at the redesign of Dante. The question is, can fans raise enough hell in time to get the changes done to save him and this reboot?

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firemassacre4653d ago ShowReplies(1)
trainsinrdr4653d ago

no I want my 3 bubbles back why n4g stop it >:(
dante and cole can 69 for all i care

-Alpha4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

Well, I think you just gave us the answer...

BeOneWithTheGun4652d ago

Here Alpha, have one of trainsinrdr's bubbles.

MaxXAttaxX4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

The main difference with Cole was simply his look. His personality and overall character remained pretty much the same, unlike the new Dante.

gaffyh4652d ago

Cole was only a douche if you made him into one though, karma choices and whatnot.

crxss4652d ago

i didn't mind the old new cole just like i don't mind the new dante. they did change the new dante a little bit if you compare the old screenshots to the new ones. probably 'cause DmC's loyal fanbase is very vocal about hating a game they haven't played yet. i love DMC3 the most in the series and i'm being optimistic about DmC.

Heartnet4652d ago

@NathanExplosion

Cause theres been so many trailers and what not about his personality? dunno what u been watching but so far only action trailers im afraid

and the new cole is not douche cole.. he looked fine and he played fine ^^ a new voice actor would only meana new look for his character.. they have to fit one another after all ^^ which some people dont get

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rabidpancakeburglar4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

Judging by some of your comments, I wouldn't really say it's a surprise you lost your bubbles.

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rabidpancakeburglar4652d ago

I know what you mean, fanboys bubble down inappropriately. I once lost a bubble because I said something about an article on some site and all of the writers from that site swooped on me. I usually only lose bubbles though when I'm on at 5 in the morning and tiredness gets the best of my common sense.

Istanbull4652d ago

Since when is the new Cole considered a douche? I tought they were talking about Cole Phelps from L.A Noire.

People really need to stop hating on PS3 exclusives in shady ways

iNFAMOUZ14652d ago

i think cole and dante look awesome.

Heartnet4652d ago

thumbs up dude (Y) they do look awesome :P just some people cant get used to change i suppose :)

Jonah_Reese4652d ago

Read your immature comment again and then ask the question.

showtimefolks4652d ago

can piss so many gamers off its not even funny.

I think SP should release the new COLE as free dlc so people can choose lol.

ans its was NT who wanted to change dante's look it was capcom. Wehn capcom came to NT they wanted a new look dante NT went back to them with some sketches where dante looked about the same as before but more polish and some new tweaks capcom rejected that and told NT to do a brand new dante look

also capcom wanted hits with new DMC don't you think they succeeded with it look at how many people and gaming critics still talk about it

if the gameplay is the same i will get it and last when they showed the gameplay it looked fine so i will keep an eye out

Takoulya4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

Capcom? Free DLC?

Tuxedo_Mask4652d ago

NT has changed more than just Dante's look, and while you're correct in the fact that it was CAPCOM who pushed the change NT is still going to get hate just because they're the ones who are making the game.

I admit I'm starting to feel a little sorry for NT because they were asked to do this to DmC and now everyone is bashing them. Their games were never anything special in my opinion, but that doesn't mean that they won't make a great game in the future.

Even if DmC turns out to be that game a lot of people won't check it out due to the fact that it has DmC on it and it's not DMC. I already started disliking CAPCOM this gen with the direction they took on RE5, SFIV, MvC3, and cancelling MML3, but a lot of people liked the games they released this gen so I doubt if they'll ever deliver something I'll be interested in again.

Kind of sad since I remember a time when if I saw CAPCOM on a game I usually bought it regardless of whether or not I knew what it was because I knew it would be a good game. Now, unless they release a new Darkstalkers game, I probably won't buy another CAPCOM game for a long time, although I did buy DMC4 used.

Long story short, this is more CAPCOM's fault than NT, and this is coming from a guy who didn't like NT before, but is now feeling bad for them because I really think they're trying really hard, even Tameem Antoniades, who began in a pretty bad way PR wise. Does that mean I'll buy the game? Probably not, but I will at least check it out and see if it changes my mind.

showtimefolks4652d ago

dude i also hate capcom just look at their long time employees who had been with the company for more than 15 years are leaving the company.

We keep on getting new edition of street fighter and MVC. Lost planet 2 was a huge mess. Megaman it seems has no future. Bionic commando IP has been tarnished.

RE series has been brought down to earth.

On disk DLC which they made people pay for and spin off dead rising titles

capcom has lost its touch with gamers like SE but atleast SE are trying with new FF13-2 game to make it work and dues ex but capcom are full on sequels and not even good ones

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Arthas4652d ago

No, they'll continue to make him an emo hipster douche. Sucks because that's probably the only thing stopping me from buying this game.

zerocrossing4652d ago (Edited 4652d ago )

Exactly who are Capcom and NT making this game for? Because it's obviously not the fans that have supported the franchise for over a decade.

Blaine4652d ago

That's obvious, isn't it? They're trying to capture a new fanbase. Because that worked so well with Enslaved, and it's worked so well for Capcom recently what with trying to westernize their franchises.

Seriously, devs who don't appreciate their loyal fanbase deserve all the misery they bring upon themselves.

Lich1204652d ago

I can't say that I really care for the new Dante. But the old Dante always kidna bugged me too. But thats largely because the whole Anime artist approach to video game characters doesn't sit so well with me. There are notable exceptions but on a whole I've always felt that art style does a very poor job of reflecting any actual characteristics of a person.

Just an opinion so don't eat me alive on this. While the new Dante does look emo, he seems more believable to me than the old Dante. Even if the reality he portrays is one I don't agree with.

ChipChipperson4652d ago

I definitely agree with you on that Lich120. The whole anime design for characters just doesn't particularly interest me with these kind of games. Take Onimusha for example. The character design for the first 3 games were excellent. Very authentic and appropriate for the time setting in feudal Japan, but Onimusha Dawn of Dreams really took the whole anime approach to design which kinda killed the liking for some of the characters with the whole blond/white hair and over-complex futuristic design in samurai armor. It just looks ridiculous. That doesn't mean I hated the game though I love all the Onimusha games. I have nothing against anime or anything, but developers need to use it where the game can benefit from that design choice like most rpg games.
Regarding Dante's new look.....it's not that I hate it, but I'm disappointed with the direction that they chose to take it. After 4 games in the series he still retained that same look of the red colored attire and white hair. Now it's just confusing and they think they can explain how he changes in appearance through whatever convoluted story they can come up with. I'm not wishing the game fails or anything, but it is bothersome that Capcom and the developers think they can take such a liberty and mess with something fans of the series have come to recognize.

Lich1204652d ago

Yeah I think what you said is the biggest issue with the redesign. Why after all these years would they take an established persona and then completely scrap it. I can understand a redesign (an overhaul of the artist approach to his look) but the new Dante literally retains zero likeness to the original. It is kinda baffling and definitely serves to alienate those fans who did appreciate his look from the originals.

Tanir4652d ago

yes, anime designs totally dont go well, but bald space marines for every single character do right? come on man. atleast animish characters like dante, ryu, cloud, link, chris redfield, etc look memorable, cant say the same for nathan from resistance, cole, dude from red faction, default shepard, isaac, star wars force unleashed, gta4, etc, they are all the same character, with the exception of cole being cool personality wise

ChipChipperson4652d ago

Tanir, where did I mention anything about bald space marines? And how is Chris Redfield anime in design? I simply just said that the overall design is not the way to go for some of these games. It has to be used in the appropriate situations. And you're a complete liar saying that the characters you mentioned are not memorable. Game characters are memorable for qualities and personalities the designers put into them and not the just the looks. You completely jumped the gun with my statement when I said nothing about putting space marines in every game when I was talking about Onimusha a game set in feudal Japan? You seem to mistake authenticity with stupid BS.

Lich1204652d ago

Tanir, Im not condoning cookie cutter space marines either. But thats not what this discussion was about. As well, I should have been more specific in that 2D games are being excluded from what I was saying. Its more that I feel that more often than not the translation from 2D to 3D anime styling doesn't work that well. Now, Ryu and that whole cast would be an exception because they were 2D to start so naturally the transition of them into 3D for SF4 they would have to have the same style. Also, Capcom did an amazing job with the graphics in that game in general. Im definitely not poo pooing SF4 (it would be one of my exceptions). Also, like chip said, I wouldn't count Chris as Anime styled. Plus I do think Niko (GTA4) was a memorable character. Just because hes bald doesn't mean he doesn't have a memorable appearance.

cyguration4652d ago

Believable? No way.

Skinny dude flying in the air with a giant sword? He looks too thin and too under nurished.

They could have gone a more "realistic" route with approaching the character design but it didn't have to be so drastic. He literally looks like a lesbian crackwhore and I'm not even joking.

Lich1204652d ago

I was referring to believable in the sense of his characteristic look. That look may be as you say, a cracked out lesbian, but I think he looks a little less typical. Now, like you say, in terms of gameplay that illusion is bound to be broken so I think your point is valid. Because that dude swinging around a sword or doing anything athletic seems pretty far fetched.

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clockworkrazor4652d ago

Agree

The new Dante looks like yet another whiney 20s something emo sissy boy.

I will NOT play the new Devil May Cry.

The original Dante is so much kooler.

Heartnet4652d ago

Dude if thats the thing stopping u from buying this game then you obviously arnt a big dmc fan imo... the old dante is gothic and emo as this one is ^^

just this one is more a modernised emo which ur so against as you see the world through stereotypical eyes... compare em both and ull c the differences arnt major except hair and the onyl reason u say this is cuz every else is ^^ Adapt or gtfo ^^

Abriael4652d ago

old dante -> Looks strong, muscular, well trained to fight, plain badass

new dante -> Looks like a sissy, scrawny, anorexic kid that can't lift a weapon, let alone survive a fight.

I'd say the difference is there, and it's rather sizable.

Pass.

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Neko_Mega4652d ago

-_- I can't stand the new Dante, while that game comes out. I'm going to go back and play all the old ones from the start.

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC27d ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC27d ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Exvalos27d ago

What a weird name, it's essentially devil may cry, devil may cry lol

Cacabunga27d ago

Best to good for me: 3, reboot, 1, 5

2 and 4 are trash, didnt like any of them.
5 has very good gameplay variety but i hated the foes.. it is just insects the whole time. Reboot has the best foes for me

Friendlygamer27d ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey60227d ago (Edited 27d ago )

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya27d ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde27d ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

SeTTriP27d ago

This right here is my order as I thought DMC 5 was amazing and obviously 3 comes after 4 was great and 1 for the nastilgic value it holds 2 was so terrible that my local GameStop gave full refunds to people who returned it.

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