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PSN Return Delayed, Hackers Publish Stolen Data

Sony on Friday said it would have to further delay the return of PlayStation Network following a massive security breach, just as reports stated hackers posted personal details stolen from a Sony database.

According to Reuters report out of Tokyo, Sony was able to remove those published details from a website, although the report didn't say exactly what website hosted the stolen information.

Personal details of some 2,500 people were posted, including names and "some addresses" that were in a 2001 database. The security breach has affected 77 million PSN and Qriocity accounts, and 24.6 million Sony Online Entertainment accounts.

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tehpees34761d ago

they realise this is against both the data protection act and computer misuse act

Best4761d ago

In an attempt to eliminate the hackers, I had a hotdog.

Hydrolex4761d ago

these guys are smart ! not gonna lie

imagine if they used their brains for something useful in this economy ! or if they used their brain working for NASA

ComboBreaker4761d ago

But but but... Hacking is not an act of terrorism!

Theonetheonly4761d ago

dude this is crazy!!

didnt just before PSN went down they say something like "Prepare for the biggest hack you've ever seen" or something like that?

gamingisnotacrime4761d ago

saying they are smart is a half truth
these guys are messing around with what OTHERS did in their jobs. Putting people like this in an scenario where they have to create instead of disrupting might not be their sweet spot

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HolyOrangeCows4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

Thank god the phonebooks weren't hacked! You really blew it, Sony!
/s

Kahvipannu4761d ago

"But but but... Hacking is not an act of terrorism! "

You should check what the word terrorism means, hacking really don't count on it. Not saying it's good thing, it's terrible, but not terrorism.

Jihaad_cpt4761d ago

Definition of terrorism:

1. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

2.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes

3.systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal

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So what these hackers are doing sounds exactly like terrorism, just because they are not killing Americans doesn't mean they are not performing acts of terrorism

harrisk9544760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

Cyberterrorism is a phrase used to describe the use of Internet based attacks in terrorist activities, including acts of deliberate, large-scale disruption of computer networks, especially of personal computers attached to the Internet, by the means of tools such as computer viruses.

What has happened here to Sony and its customers is terrorism through and through. It is the stated goal of Anonymous to disrupt Sony's business and this has certainly done that and has created a fear that may prevent people from doing future business with Sony.

Sony is a corporation that makes consumer electronics. They are in business to make a profit. They were protecting their proprietary product (the PS3) within the confines of the law. Agree or don't agree with the law, but Sony was within its rights. Just as Apple, MS, IBM, CocaCola or any other company is within its rights to protect their own products. These hackers are operating outside the law with terroristic methods designed to intimidate Sony based upon some misguided sense of morality.

badz1494760d ago

Are lowlife SCUM!! Please just go to prison already, better yet go straight to hell!!

RedDead4760d ago

Terrorism ain't always bad. Sometimes it's the only way to achieve freedom. Jus sayin.

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saladthieves4761d ago

Jesus Christ. When will this game end?

a_squirrel4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

Why are you asking him? Besides, if Jesus was on N4G we wouldn't have these problems. ;D

saladthieves4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

There he is, ask him whatever you want. He'd be happy to reply to you!

starcb264761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

Can I get my 2 bubbles back Jezuz?

b163o14761d ago

This is starting to piss me off, I've missed sooo much KZ3. Ok guys we get it, we know you guys can hack(Rage against the machine) point taken. Now just let us play our games online again.

Bimkoblerutso4761d ago

I'm sorry, this is a very serious article, but...this string of comments really made me lol.

ps3destroyer4761d ago

It will never end if ps3 fanboys exist.The hackers have a clear scope here destroy the ones who got their leader in jail.That's why Microsoft just banned everyone and didn't get anyone to jail.

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jke824761d ago

they def dont care but on the otherside of the coin WHOOPTY DOO they published data that included NAMES AND ADDRESSES...so they make a big story of the hackers publishing what is BASIC DATA you can get OUTTA THE PHONE BOOK...i mean its 2500 names and addresses... so basically the took the average towns yellow pages and photocopied it........what a joke...how is that to be worried about..in addition to that its from a 10 YEAR OLD DATABASE

a good percentage of it is probably outdated.

Blaine4761d ago

Agreed. It's pure fear-mongering and misinformation. Journalists with 0 integrity bending the truth to make sensationalist news.

Just read the headline: the data published isn't even from the PSN hack. But the way they say it, makes it sound like 70 million credit card numbers were published, when that's not the truth at all.

socomnick4761d ago

:/ yea they just published that useless data to show that they truly do posses the information.

Glad to see they did not post other data such as CC info, current psn subscriber addresses, phone numbers etc.

Rainstorm814761d ago

yea socomnick

They got PSN names from a database from 2001..huh?...and PSN was available to the public in 2006.

These are some gifted hackers if they can steal 2006-2011 info from a database with info from 2001

Do any of you trolls use your brains??? **dumb question**

Media fearmongering.....i wish gaming journalists were actually all about gaming journalism.....some are but most arent

zag4761d ago

What you don't understand is that data would be from evercrack.

jke824760d ago

ok but raiin is right how did they steal info from a 10 year old database that the story says is from psn in 2001 if psn didnt start up till 2006

HOW INDEED?!?!?!

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CryofSilence4761d ago

I look forward to the perpetrators facing two 10 year imprisonment periods in federal prisons.

cannon88004761d ago

These hackers need a wake up call if you ask me. I seriously hope they realize that if any one of them get caught they're going to be in serious trouble. Messing around with millions of people's private information is not funny at all.

KidBroSweets24761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

Which is why I'm wondering why Sony is second guessing whether or not they should offer a reward for the help of identifying these hackers like the article say. I don't understand the negatives of it?

zeddy4761d ago

glad to know the hackers are on our side. release all our info! fight the power!

bozebo4760d ago

If everybody could access the data then at least people could look for their own data and see exactly what info was leaked, that could put some concerns at rest - but then other people can also use it maliciously, particularly if the original hacker group didn't have the manpower to exploit much of it :(

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n4gisatroll4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

I hope those people get put in prison for life. Who do they think they are screwing with thousands of peoples lives. They are terrorist's in the highest manner.

Edit:

Btw what's up with getting voted down a bubble? Kinda wack since I haven't said anything to deserve that.

RockmanII74761d ago

I think terrorists who kill would be worse, but I agree that these people need to get arrested sooner rather than later.

Biggest4761d ago

Terrorists aren't just those who kill. The hackers in this case are terrorists. Luckily for the world, they are the lame kind that just bother people for a little. They're the Carrot Top of terrorists.

Theonetheonly4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

That word is the boogeyman. I don't live in fear of the boogeyman.

@grzajabarkus
you just called a group of people who are annoying the t word.

they have not taken any lives and that is an insult to anyone affected by 9 11.

that is probably why you lost a bubble.

you too @biggest

rockleex4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

No one has to kill anyone in order to be a terrorist.

To terrorize = to put fear into someone. Terrorists put fear into a GROUP of people or organization.

The worsts terrorists use death to create fear. But there are MANY other ways to terrorize people.

Theonetheonly4761d ago

PSN being down makes you scared?

either way terrorists are people who scare you Using whatever fear they can incite. I have never had a terrorist so much as stub my toe. in fact the only proof of terrorists i have ever seen is that day in September 10 years ago. I got the day off of school.

the better definition for these hackers is Criminals. Not F&^$%*g terrorists.

criminals are subject to the law. Terrorists are, according to the patriot act subject to no law and are people who exist in a Muslim regime who believes that Americans need to die in order to fulfill their mission on earth.

unless you believe in that whole "home grown terror thing where terrorists are only people who believe in free speech and the right to bear arms, and or question authority."

n4gisatroll4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

Reed:

What??????? Your seriously going to talk about the patriot act saying the only thing a terrorist is, is a Muslim??? Your insane for saying that. And tell me honestly that no one is scared about the info these hackers have released. Because if 1 person is afraid, then they are by definition, terrorists. And stop bringing up 9/11 because your misinformed about that as well.

WAR_MACHINE774761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

@reedbananaboat Really, dude? Really? I guess you get the most racist comment of the day award! Muslim =/= terrorist. FYI... yes, these hackers are very much cyber terrorists.

Theonetheonly4760d ago

Nah people make misinformed statements on here all day.

:)

I just have an issue with that word being thrown around so lightly, given the fact that you can be jailed without due process of law indefinitely for being viewed as one.

Definitely not racist. :)

I actually study this, just thought it would be too much to digest if I were to actually try to type something too lengthy and get chastised for trying to back it up with too many big words. :)

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dark-hollow4761d ago

"Btw what's up with getting voted down a bubble? Kinda wack since I haven't said anything to deserve that"

maybe some terrorist fanboy disagreed with you :D

n4gisatroll4761d ago

When you die your done, but being alive and having your identity stolen you suffer for many years. That's why I said that. Maybe I took my comment a bit too far.

Parapraxis4761d ago

Good & honest reflection, and yes you are probably right in both regards.

metsgaming4761d ago

when you tell the truth on this site you seem to get a bubble down. Your right they are terrorists and should go to prison. Any one doing this to any company and its customers should go to jail for a very long time.

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n4gisatroll4761d ago

Ya, a lot of disagrees are coming out of this topic when they speak bad about these hackers. I didn't know this was news 4 hackers.

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rabidpancakeburglar4761d ago

Hasn't sony already taken down the published stolen data?

ReBurn4760d ago

Nothing is every truly gone from the internet.

dark-hollow4761d ago

all that fuzz in the beginning for not being able to run linux on the ps3????
i understand that removing one of the features of the console you own sucks but going this far for this?

kinda pathetic.

TKCMuzzer4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

These hackers are just using that as a reason now, they are just doing it to annoy Sony and everyone else.
They have no decent agenda because they are hiding behind "Anonymous" which is saying "we are anonymous and we believe in what's right, just not enough to let people know who we really are because we know deep down we are breaking the law"
One thing about people who think they are clever when it comes to avoiding the law is they will always slip up. At some point one of them won't be able to keep it to him/herself and will let it slip. I mean what's the point of proving you are good at something if no one knows it's you.
Also, lets face it, when they get caught they are going to have everything thrown at them, then we will see if they thought it was such a good cause.

a_squirrel4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

I agree with above. They use excuses.
I disagreee with you though...

It's really pathetic.... and redundant.

chriski3334761d ago

Holy crap man this insane when the hell is ssony gonna get there crap in order I've been sitting and waiting like there one else we need answers now and why the hell r ppl hacking the network! !!!

fluffydelusions4761d ago (Edited 4761d ago )

The data was already stolen weeks ago. Nothing they could do about it at this point.

orange-skittle4761d ago

Go to XBL instead. What do you expect if you pay nothing? Sony doesnt owe any of you anything. they can stay offline for 3 weeks and dont owe you shit. So STOP complaining.

arjman4760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

Pretty sure they owe us the cost of the PS3?
Or is that suddenly forgotten in your argument.

orange-skittle4760d ago (Edited 4760d ago )

Owe you what? Dummy please, Sony doesn't owe you a thing. You didn't pay for the servers they provided, so what should you get for free...nothing? did you pay for maintenance, did you pay for apps, did you pay for updates, did you pay for add-ons...no...not a dime, so why should they reward you with perks that you never gave back to the company? the only people that should be reimbursed is the PSN+ subscribers. You get nothing you freeloader. You bought a gaming console, the wifi modem was included as promised, but no one said that internet access was part of the deal. It doesnt state that anywhere. They just did that for you because its always been free, but then they noticed that it was expensive to maintain, so they developed PSN+ to recoup some money. Guess how much this breach is costing them....who's gonna pay now?

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers24d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken24d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g24d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing24d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H924d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola24d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66924d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle24d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg25d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos25d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola25d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies45d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken45d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga45d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken45d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6445d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long45d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197245d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12545d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91345d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer45d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91344d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit44d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher45d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6944d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit44d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher45d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken45d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197245d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2345d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218345d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder45d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts45d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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