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Anonymous to newz.dk: We did not steal any user information from PSN

In what appears to be an email, sent to Danish news site Newz.dk, from a messenger within Anonymous or at least somebody claiming to be, it states that Anonymous has not been stealing any information from PSN.

A selection from the letter sent to Newz.dk:
"First and foremost, we will ensure all users of the PSN, we are not and never will collect credit information from end users of PSN. In fact, the end users has never been our goal. This is a poor excuse from Sony, which has enabled them to obtain information about anonymous members. Which has led to the arrests of 40 anonymous members now considered to be in the FBI's custody..."

Read the whole article and letter from Anonymous after the jump!

In general: Remember to take everything you read in the case between Sony and Anonymous with a grain of salt and be careful not to jump to too many conclusions, since much of it is still rumor and speculation, despite the fact that Sony has officially been out and tell a part at this time.

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Hagaf224782d ago

So they say they didn't steal user data, well that sounds like they are admitting they had something to do with the attacks then. If they were going to hold the stance they didn't do this they wouldn't need to say they didn't steal our info. Way to go anonymous, you openly admitted to causing this. Now, I'm off to buy portal 2 since I have completed MK's story and Socom's single player. Thanks for the offline game time. Douches.

Dante1124782d ago (Edited 4782d ago )

Like most of the people said in that site's comment section, I kinda think this is another fake as well. The 40 warrants and arrest on Anonymous happened back in January ( Source: http://www.computerworld.co... ) and how would Sony get information about Anonymous members and get folks arrested if they had nothing to do with the attack and are innocent? Then during the statement, it's like he goes back on what he said above with this comment where he says "But escalated when Sony got the users information through youtube which should not be legal, and simply shows that our methods matches Sony's". Huh?

LOGICWINS4781d ago (Edited 4781d ago )

"If they were going to hold the stance they didn't do this they wouldn't need to say they didn't steal our info."

...or maybe they're defending themselves because people on the Internet(like yourself) will constantly accuse them of something everytime PSN gets hacked regardless if it was them or not.

Anonymous wants as many people on their side as possible in order to forward their cause..do you think they'll just sit back while they get accused of stealing from the SAME consumers they are trying to reach out to?

It amuses me how people on N4G pretend they know all..when in reality all they know is what they are told. Everything else they "think" they know comes from childlike reasoning that emhasize emotions over common logic.

"Bu bu bu buh Jimmy took my sandwich last week, so Jimmy HAD to be the one who stole Ralph's toy car yesterday."

Soldierone4781d ago

You ever watch the Disney shows as a kid? Where there was one trouble maker in the show constantly getting in trouble? And then the one time he DIDNT do something, he still got accused for it and in trouble for the most part?

Its because you bring it on yourself. If your a theif that has gone to prison three times, and happen to be in a mall when it gets robbed....I gurentee you won't walk away without being questioned. You dont want people blaming you? then dont do stupid things.

Anon brought it upon themselves, and now all they have to do and should do is STFU and let Sony deal with the issues. If it wasn't them they have nothing to worry about. If it was...well that explains why they constantly say it wasnt.

ComboBreaker4782d ago (Edited 4782d ago )

Anony: "We will not attack PSN."
Anony went ahead and attack the PSN.

Anony: "We will not bring down the PSN."
Anony went ahead and bought down the PSN.

Anony: "We did not steal your credit card number."
Anony went ahead and take $500 from everyone's credit card and donate it to GeoHot.

Can we really trust what Anony said anymore? Could we even trust them to begin with?

Will the Anony defenders finally wake up? Or will they keep letting Anony lie to them and take advantage of them?

FishCake9T44781d ago

Im pretty sure Anony didnt do any of those things? I thought it was brought down by Turks.

cogniveritas4781d ago

Anonymous isn't an organized group because are all supposed to be anonymous. If one Anonymous guy participates in stealing data, then of course the millions of other Anonymous who didnt do it can deny it. That's their goal and what makes them a hard target.

lee_ten4781d ago

their goal/intention was to embarrass sony. based on the reports/misleading information/trolling/ FUD, they pretty much succeeded.

yewles14782d ago

ANOTHER confession. Congratz, kids.

Octo14782d ago

I'd believe you if you were not an "organization" with no real chain of command.Just because some in the group says one does not mean it speaks for Anonymous as a whole.

Dante1124782d ago

Was you comment directed at me or the guy in the article, because you can check all of my comments on Anonymous if you think I'm a member lol.

Octo14782d ago

wasn't directed at anyone.It was to Anon if you want a "who was it directed to"

TheMrMadzen4782d ago

Do you think us in Denmark will fucking believe your shit??

Downtown boogey4781d ago

YEAH!
The people of Denmark will not buy into that BS!

Ingram4781d ago (Edited 4781d ago )

that's hilarious!

Ddouble4782d ago

40 members arrested!
I thought these guys couldn't be found. Not so anonymous

metsgaming4782d ago

i would wait for conformation of something like that but i hope it happens

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

--Onilink--1h ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC55m ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

Abnor_Mal3h ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto1h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda1h ago(Edited 59m ago)

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman50m ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

Marvellepus33m ago

lol Tacoboto is right, this dude still talking about Orchard.

Dude hasn’t been on N4G for over a year and is still living in your head rent free

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repsahj2h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

sagapo1h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai6d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19725d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

-Foxtrot5d ago

@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19725d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel6d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz5d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay5d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers34d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken34d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g34d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing34d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H934d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola34d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66934d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle34d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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