The Stupidest Mistakes Microsoft Made with the Xbox 360

"While many gamer’s first instinct will be to either embrace or shun this as some sort of hate article about the Xbox 360, it couldn’t be further from the truth. It will only be viewed that way by those that either can’t stand to face the fact that their favorite console has faults or those who just love to gobble up anything negative about competing consoles. No matter which side of the fence you sit on, there’s no arguing that Microsoft has dropped the ball in a few instances while sculpting one of the most innovative machines to grace the home videogame console market. We all know how achievements and Xbox LIVE have furthered the gaming hobby in recent years, so we’re going to look at the “not-so-smooth” moves by gaming’s youngest console company."

[ShyGuy13]

Sure Microsoft has made some mistakes, but they definitely don't amount to the ones Sony or Nintendo has made..

[MaxXAttaxX]

Like buying a good developing company like Rare and robbing them of their identity?

Oh wait, that was Microsoft.

[Raichu50]

RARE HAS ALWAYS made cute and cuddly games they are a bit of a SIDESHOW and an embarassment to manly games like Gears

[MaxXAttaxX]

DKC, GoldenEye 007, Banjo Kazooie, Killer Instinct, etc.

Those games were great. Whatever happened to them and the original staff. Even their logo now looks like it belongs on some medicine label.

[Ultraplayerxp]

@Raichu
lolwuuuut.

NathanExplosion beat me to it but I was just about to list those games plus Perfect Dark and Battletoads.

Rare is an awesome dev, MS just isn't using them right.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Perfect Dark and Battletoads are great as well.

[gamingdroid]

The fact is a great studio is dependent on several factors, among the most important ones:

a) the staff, Rare lost most of it's original team members long ago

b) culture, once you change this and f'it up, you are better off just starting over with a new studio.

So the fact that Rare no longer is what you expected it to be is not odd, but considering Rare made games for the Nintendo such as DKC it isn't unusual for them to do games like Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata. Seems like right up their alley!

[ShinMaster]

Except, DKC and Banjo Kazooi/Tooie on Nintendo were much better games.
Now their doing Kinect mini games.

Although it doesn't matter much anymore. Rare is gone!

[Zydake]

Xbox gives milfs problems lol

[DigitalHorror81]

RARE is just a bunch of nothing now. RARE was essentially bought by Microsoft to be destroyed. That's the way it looks to me, at least.

Troll: "Why would someone buy it just to do nothing with it?"

Answer: To destroy that slice of the market share.

[Kurt Russell]

I thought the Rare that currently works for xbox consisted of almost completely different staff to that of the old. But hey ho.

Now I'm dreaming of Killer Instinct again.

[Vherostar]

Erm Riiiight... Thats why Sony have 3 of the most successful consoles ever made and MS have the flop that is Xbox? They have made huge mistakes and nobody can deny it. Sony have made mistake but only in the handheld market something they are still fairly new to. In the console market they have pretty much got everything nailed on and have done for a while everything else is just a blip. So stop being a fanboy and get over it. You really think saying Sony made more mistakes makes your console better??

[Loner]

Not really Sony lost a ton of marketshare this gen.Microsoft and nintendo gained marketshare.Sony dominated the previous 2 gens but now are in last place for over 4 years
The PS3 was supposed to wipe out the competition and it ended up getting smoked by the 360 and Wii.Sony lost the most this gen.they will never dominate like they did in the past because of the mistakes they made(600 dollar PS3 , terrible advertising , arrogance , no games for first 2 years , crap psn etc , etc

[insomnium2]

Sony will be back up there with over 100 million sold Playstations this gen too. The thing is that this gen is a LOT longer than what it used to be with previous machines. That is something you x360-people just don't get.

Sony sells over 100 million PS3s just like they did with their previous consoles. They haven't lost anything only the market has gotten bigger. The claim about "lost marketshare" is pure BS and TOTALLY irrelevant. Does a smaller market share make this gen worse for Sony if they yet again sell the same amount of Playstations to the world? This really calls for a smh big time.....

[antz1104]

Lol, c'mon now, you can troll an xbox article all you want but to say xbox is a flop? Thats just an ignorant, DUMB thing to say.

[CoLD FiRE]

Whoa! the hypocrisy in your post is so obvious it hurts my intelligence. You say that Microsoft flopped with the Xbox yet you say Sony only made some mistakes in the handheld market because they were FAIRLY NEW to it! May I remind you that when Microsoft entered the console market it was something THEY'RE STILL FAIRLY NEW to?

[FFXI101]

"The PS3 was supposed to wipe out the competition"
Why? cause you said so?

Every company would like to see their products sell well or even be the number one on the market but Sony's said it they want to have a 10years life cycle on their system, Their aim is for LONG term.

If they didn't care about that they'd have release the PS3 long before the 360 with price of $299.(If they did that they wouldn't have much room to adjuest the price in the 10 years cycle)

Terrible advertising, I'll give you that. But saying they have no games in the first 2 years? That's just ignorant.

[Iroquois_Pliskin]

@loner

Loner, in every ps3/xbox article you boast how the ps3 is in last place when it actualy isn't. Are you on n4g just for trolling? Or are you retarded?

Love,

pliskin

[larrym]

50+ million consoles sold is a flop? And Sony went from 1st to 3rd in this console generation? You don't go from 1st to 3rd without making some f--k ups, dude. Sony has been in the handheld market for 6 years now, how are they still new at it? They need to leave the handheld market alone, that is Nintendo's area of expertise. Go put your Sony glasses back on and sip on a tall glass of Sony kool aid.

[PirosThe4th]

To be fair the only reason PS3 console sales weren't as high as 360 is because they weren't hacked until recently. And many developing countries never manage to cash in on the ps3 since games aren't "free". Now you will see south american countries and others are buying shit loads of ps2 when they were cheap. By the time ps3 gets as low as 200 bucks its going to own everything.
Everyone is emerging countries were getting 360 cuz it was cheaper and hackable and so on for HD needs.

Trust me its the sad truth.

[smashman98]

the psp was in no way a mistake its the first handheld to ever to actually be able to compete on some level with nintendo.

as sega just wasnt able 2

(btw i own both a game gear and a nomad and i love both, but no one can deny that they stood no chance against nintendo i have never in my life met another person who owned a game ggear or a nomad... ever)

[Lawliet]

How is it that a handheld which sold over 65million and over millions of software get class as a flop? The PSP has run 6years in its cycle and still running strong with numerous support. It ain't a flop! A flop system should be those that could not complete its full cycle that was planned and base highly on its potential. PSP is an old tech now, it has run its course and succeeded. It only look like a flop because it is being compare to the mammoth NDS. You need to know such strong sales doesn't generate every generation.. Even for a new handheld with new highly integrated tech get into the market, will probably never see it pass over 60million let alone over 100million!

The original Xbox has great potential, its technology is far greater than the PS2, it didn't flop because of hardware failure or because of the great differences in sales, it flop because it lack support, thus lead to cease production. Unlike this generation where developers has easy option to port their games to another console, last generation the developers would have to study different architecture of each hardware to create their games which is far difficult! Microsoft might have pick themselves up this generation, but for the past few years, I have to say they are running out of luck... The same mistake that cost the original Xbox to flop is now taking its toll on the Xbox360. If it isn't for the Multiplatform support the console would've been long gone. And now Microsoft is playing their tricky card with the Kinect. It won't be long now that a New Xbox will be announce and Xbox360 be discontinued. Kinect will be compatible with the new hardware, but expect various peripherals for the games.

[awi5951]

Yeah right i had just as many broken ps1 and ps2 than broken 360. The diffrence is sorry sony charged me to fix every one of them. My Walmart even stopped taking them back anymore from the huge flood of broken consoles. And started checking serial numbers of all consoles returned from people with broke consoles who's warranty has run out.

And xbox live mods are better than psn ive gotten suspended for something in my gamertag or something i said. IF enough people report you they will ban or suspend you.

[morkendo23]

The Stupidest Mistakes Microsoft Made with the Xbox 360

was to enter it into gaming world
ENOUGH SAID

[Kurt Russell]

Boooooooooooooring.

[krazykombatant]

LOL FAIL!

[Moentjers]

Sony learns from their mistakes, MS ? they don't give a damn shit about mistakes and their cusotmers.
Or... they would have recalled the 360 after the rrod.

[awi5951]

Why should they recall sony never did for the broken ps1 or 2 microsoft learned from sony. But they did offer to fix them for free. I bet sony maid lots of money fixing the broken consoles since they charged you 90 bucks to fix your console back then when they were faulty to start with. The first run of ps2 where broken. The disc read errors they were sued for later on. All the ps1 consoles that people told you to turn them upside to get them to play. That worked for awhile untill it dies completely.

[Moentjers]

@awi5951

'only' 6% of the PS2 had the DRE problem, that's within the limits of electronic devices.

how much 360's had the rrod ?
(you can round down to the nearest 10%)

[Bull5hifT]

Yeah like making Very Faulty Hardware.. 33% failure rate that amounts to nothing. Just a slap on the wrist.. People put up with that bullcrap' i personally would be very effing Pissed if i had just spent $60 on a game or $150 on a kinect then got ready to play it when the piece of crap dies, and they force you to pay for Multiplayer... If that developers should have hidden those options to not eff with your mind thinking you can play online, thats BS ...

[the_best_player]

not beta test it

[Emilio_Estevez]

Good article, makes a good argument there. Theres always 2 sides to a coin though, they did a lot right too.

[BattersUp]

Am I the only one eyeballing the mom's rack? toss a pillow case over her face and I'm in on that.

[Raichu50]

She ain't a milf

[Dart89]

Or you can always put a bag over her head like so.

Enjoy xDDD.

[DigitalHorror81]

Classic. I miss that movie.

[PooEgg]

What a bunch of hard up immature children. GTFU - I am sure that women wouldn't touch your childish asses with a ten foot poll, even if you all put bags over your own pimply faces.

You guys are pathetic.

[theonlylolking]

M$ I think was great for 4.5 years of this gen(around 2009) they forced sony to make better games, better online, etc... Which has resulted in the best gaming console for your money.

[Kain81]

Is that Peggy Bundy on that Pic?
LOL

[antz1104]

....and a dark haired Thurman Murman from Bad Santa :D

[tigertron]

Apart from rushing the hardware, which I believe is ok now the slim is out, the lack of exclusives (excluding Kinect titles) the past couple of years has been a big mistake, because quite frankly, the PS3 has so much more to offer in terms of games right now.

Microsoft should have really focused on creating first party studios, because Microsoft is a huge corporation and I'm sure they have alot of skill and expertise in video games. First party games>timed exclusives and DLC. If next-gen, they make sure that every year there are enough first party exclusives year on year, then I'll be more than happy to buy the next Xbox.

[Pillville]

Xbox needs:

- No Live Gold required for Netflix
(Seriously, nearly every DVD/Blue-ray Player, Console, Streaming device does Netflix and Xbox is the only one that requires a separate fee to access it) I have an extra xbox in my basement, I would like to use it to stream Netflix, but I'd have to buy ANOTHER Live Gold account (but still only 1 Netflix account)

- Better UPnP
PS3 supports more video formats than Xbox. I don't use Windows Media Center, I use UPnP server software.

- Non-proprietary hard drives
this is pure greed. The thumb-drive update was a step in the right directions, but why limit to 16GB?

PS3 needs

- Cross game chat / Part system
(bring on the sh1t storm)

- Ability to change PSN id
PSN Japan has it, Live has it, and works just fine. There is no reason not to have this. If they charged $10 like MS, I bet they could easily make one million dollars in the first week.

- Integrate the avatars from Home.
Why do I have to choose a crappy piece of clip art for my PSN avatar, when I've spent the time to make an life like avatar of myself in Home?

- Purchase/gift PSN games from the PSN website.

- A IR option added to the bluetooth remote. You can keep the PS controls bluetooth, but have an IR sender on it for controlling other devices.

- Auto-sync trophies
enough said

I'm sure there's a ton more for both systems. And I can't even begin to comment on the Wii.

[ButterBomb]

I would also like to see the PS3 have a gamer profile like the 360. For example, I like to have my Y-Axis inverted and on the 360 there is a universal setting for that option so every game I play it sets it like that. While on the PS3 I have to set it every time for every new game I play(only once).

Good list.

[Da_Evil_Monkey]

Agree with every point you made, apart from integrating the home avatars. I hate the Home avatars, Mii's and Xbox avatars. They are just annoying, if I wanted to dress boring computerised people, I'd buy the Sims. Stick with the image avatars, or better yet, let us select our own avatars from our own pictures, steam manages it; so I don't see why PSN couldn't.

[Pillville]

I know the home/live/wii avatars are cheesy, but it makes it personal.

When I see my friends list on xbox, I see cartoon versions of them. It's like our own little cartoon show.

When I see my friends list on PS3, I see pac-man, 3 nathan drakes, sack boy and an 8 ball. dumb.

[Agent_S]

@pillville Awesome list man. Bubbles.

[Kingdom Come]

So Microsoft are to blame for some stupid obese afro-hair child spending £1000 on his mum's Credit Card? No, thats down to bad parenting and immaturity.

[KrystofKage1]

She was a troll. Anyone that contacted her for interviews had to pay a fee to hear her speak. Guessing they need the money for haircuts.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Nothing in this article that hasn't been bitched to death before. Get over it or at least stimulate the argument with something new. The horse is dead already. But keep whacking away when you get bored every other month.

[KillerPwned]

They should of worked on the console more then released it a year later then it did. That would of solved a lot of things.

I enjoy the 360 time to time but MS was really greedy this gen last xbox was great.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

There is 100% no way to confirm or deny these mistakes would have been avoided if Microsoft waited a year. The Xbox 360 was on the drawing board one week after the first Xbox launched. You get to a point in development of anything where you need to release the item and make money. Everything runs on a schedule. The next consoles will come out based on their release schedule which is dictated by their development progress, the demands of developers, and the available technology at low price the average consumer demographic can afford. Look at blu ray players. They are cheap as hell, but 5 years ago they absolutely weren't. Should Sony have waited? Price was the big issue with the ps3 when it launched and why sells staggered after the deticated Sony fans purchased their systems.

[DigitalRaptor]

"Price was the big issue with the ps3 when it launched and why sells staggered after the deticated Sony fans purchased their systems."

Nope. Price was only a factor for the ignorant and the short-sighted among us. You either bought it, you earned the money to get it or you waited. It still sold faster and more units than the Xbox 360 did in its first year and every subsequent year. More people other than dedicated Sony fans bought it too. Sales didn't stagger!

That $599 was blown WAY out of proportion too.. Sony was called greedy, yet they were bleeding money on each unit and still managed to reduce the consumer cost to $599.

[Barajas_201]

having to buy lots of shit on top of buying the damn console. i had to buy a HDD, rechargeable batteries, wifi adapter, and xbox live. now the stupid shit reads discs when ever it feels like, i never had to buy any of the shit above on my ps3.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Lol, you didn't 'have' to do a damn thing. YOU wanted to do those things. Nobody made you do what you didn't want too.

[sam2236]

@ASSASSYN: You're a terrible troll.

[Barajas_201]

oh really? then i guess i had to buy AA batteries forever, be happy with the 251 internal memory, and not connect online? you sir are a troll, people need to buy this shit to have the same result as to buying a PS3

[Arnon]

The only thing you had to buy was a harddrive. You're just a lazy bastard when you're complaining about replacing batteries and not running an ethernet cable through your house.

[DigitalRaptor]

It was still stupid and a consumer afterthought. Microsoft didn't do it to offer a cheaper console to benefit their consumer in the long term. They did it to sell more units because their console was cheaper as a direct result.

Have you never heard of upselling? That's what Microsoft did, still does and it's hardly ever good for the consumer.

[moparful99]

@arnon.. Why are you defending microsoft on this matter.. Its like you go out and buy ford focus for 10,000 but it has no stereo, no air conditioning, manual windows, and the smallest engine available for that model.. Hey no big deal because ford charges me 500 bucks for an upgraded stereo system, 200 for power windows, and 1000 bucks for the best engine.. Well lets say I go out and buy a chevy cobalt for 10,000 bucks but mine comes with power windows, ice cold ac, and a beefy engine as well as extra features like keyless entry, a sunroof, and touch screen navigation... Wouldn't you be pissed? Why not get more car for the money? OR is brand loyalty that important to you??? Makes no sense the argument you are making....

[Arnon]

Or maybe it's because I bought a 360, and never needed to buy any of that additional crap to get what I wanted out of it?

Or does logic not occur to you? By the way, that was a bad analogy. Quit using cars as a comparison.

[sam2236]

Paying to play online should be on that list.

The PC, excluding MMOs, has free online play. The PS3, PSP, DS and Wii have free online play. Hell, the PS2, Dreamcast and original Xbox had free online play, FFS!

[TBONEJF]

Here is a few things M$ did was wrong. FIRST THEY RUSH OUT THEIR PRODUCT WITHOUT FIXING THEIR OWN BUGS WHICH CAUSE THE RROD next their accessory pricing was TOO HIGH that includes their own hard drive which was 149 dollars if i remember the price tag.

[Clarence]

You can take RROD that list. That was the best thing to happen to M$, because it tacked on more sales.

[ColecoVision]

Releasing a HD DVD add on, and not backing the format. This is Micro$oft we are talking about here. If they wanted to have gotten behind it they would have.

Looking back to Jan. 2008, Warner. Bros. announce they will swith from being HD DVD/Blu-ray to Blu-ray only come summer time. This made no sense to announce this so early while still supporting HD DVD. I Suspect Sony cut a deal with them because of what exclusive 2008 summer films would be coming to HD DVD in the fall of 2008. Films that would have been HD DVD exclusives. (regardless of what you thought of these films):

Iron Man
Indiana Jones 4
Kung Fu Panda
The Incredible Hulk
Wanted
Tropic Thunder
The Mummy 3
Hellboy 2

The Warner switch was the end of HD DVD and Micro$oft did nothing!

[GodGinrai]

I think HD DVD was gonna fail regardless...But it would have been good for disc based 360 games.

[hazelamy]

if ms had fully supported hddvd by putting a hddvd drive in every xbox hddvd would likely have been the dominant hd video standard and old blurays would be going for a couple of quid, but they didn't and now it's old hddvds that are going for a couple of quid and bluray dominates.

if every 360 owner was also a potential hddvd buyer that could have swung the balance in hddvds favour.

[earbus]

Ylod is more widespread than reported so much for console stability i hardly used mine then bang death gone no more back to pc ,360.

[WesMcLaren]

...no

[earbus]

Well i guess me and five other people i know must have imagined that they died funny i expected more from the console than a nice yellow light

[GodGinrai]

aside from the RROD fiasco caused by rushing the hardware out the door Microsoft` other mistake (as far as im concerned) was not including 120GB hdd as standard and not embracing large disc formats. I can understand why they didnt go with bluray...helping sony would be counter productive to there 360 plans...however they could have been the "other" BR equipped console which would have stole even more of the ps3`s thunder..or they could have just went with HD-DVD. yeah ,it lost out to BR but it still would have made for a good large capacity alternative which at this point intime could have been a device used soley by the 360. They could have literally owned that format!

They should have definetly aquired more studios or atleast set up some new ones...that said they did a good job of "claiming" COD. most folk associate that game with the 360 (as they do FPS`s in general). MS know how to play this game..a little too well if you ask me..

just my two scents..the 360 is a good console but its not got much left in it...even with that said i think MS did a pretty good job this time round..they brought Online gaming to the forefront, and that for me is the single reason why this gen has gone on longer than its supposed to have ...im ready for new consoles tbh. some of you may dissagree...but why should i have to wait for new consoles cuz of yo` broke asses?

[Skynetone]

christmas 2013/2014, youll have your ps4, the industry has to ready some games to go along with your ps4

no point in having a ps4 if you dont have any games to play on it, and the longer you wait the better tech spec what goes into it

if you want highend graphics its called a pc

my needs are a little bit simpler, i just want savage moon 2, and a chess game on the ps3

[omi25p]

im going to guess we wont being seeing the ten stupidest mistakes sony made with the ps3.

So because i doubt we will see one i made one myself.

10.Not understanding the importance of advertisement.

9.Expecting to sell the ps3 from the popularity of the ps2 alone

8.Losing exclusivity of final fantasy and other games.

7.A very poor online experience at launch

6.Having a mandatory installation for the majority of ps3 games but launching the console with a small Hardrive

5.Announcing exclusive games and the either cancelling them or having no further information for year's to come (agent)

4.Ridiculous launch prices.

3.Releasing an the slim that was intended to be the upgrade of the ps3 but then removing features (backward compatability)

2.Releasing no hugely popular games for the first 18months of the ps3s excistance

1. private root key leaked.

Just to avoid any comments calling me a fanboy here are the ten things sony have done right

10.Having one of the largest excluive games lines ups ever.

9.Reducing the price of the ps3 drastically.

8.Improving the online service to industry standards.

7.Free online gaming.

6.Released much larger harddrives for the console.

5.Constantly launching new features and applications for the online service.

4.Pushing developers to create some of the highest rate exclusive games. (uncharted,killzone)

3.Constantly buying and opening new 1st party studios.

2.Listening to feedback from consumers.

1.Using their lawyers to pound geohotz into the ground

[WesMcLaren]

Backwards compatibility was lost before the slim came out...

[omi25p]

i was not aware of that, but they still removed a key feature. Thats like releasing a mobile phone with online features and then after a month you lose those online features.

[moparful99]

Im sorry but I just can't get behind your list.. There are some items that were baffling on sony's part but sony is everchanging their hardware to fit trends and to satisfy customers.. Microsoft? Not so much.. The only thing microsoft did to change their game plan was to fix the RROD but only becaus they were forced to and to redesign the system a result of the rrod fiasco... Other then that they have not done a thing to change their strategy.. Sony will try something and if it works they run with it if it doesn't they go a new direction.. This is why sony is so successful in the gaming market...

[omi25p]

i didnt mention microsoft at all, i simply stated that the slim was surposed to be the upgraded version of the fat ps3 and removing a key feature from it to me seemed as if its was a downgrade.

I also said that sony is changing everything improving everything about the ps3. Thats why i said psn is now up to the industry standard and constantly lauching FREE applications and features to give back to their consumers.

[moparful99]

You look at it as a downgrade but the few people(you included) that felt that way were far outnumbered by the people screaming about how the ps3 was too expensive.. So sony reduced the cost by removing features that were expensive and not key... Sony made a bold, and smart move by releasing the slim the way they did...

[Agent_S]

Good read I thoroughly agree with this article. I hope Microsoft is aware of all of our concerns and issues, so they can get it right next gen.

[AnxietyAttack]

LOL! Fakeboy troll!

[Agent_S]

Huh? I have no idea what your words are implying. Troll? Hardly. All I own is a 360, and I would'nt have had any other console this gen in its place. This article simply states the major things that have annoyed me this gen by microsoft. I will buy their next console so long as its a progressive technical leap with alot of love for the core gamer thrown in(core exclusives). They have made great strides and I hope they continue. Im also glad that there is so much competition this gen, gamers only benefit from it. I guess you just needed some attention and im sorry your an ADD suffering kid(if your not a kid, im embarrassed for you), I know maturity is hard for people like you but dont give up buddy.

[Ch1d0r1]

Best thing the 360 did for gamers is to help lower the cost of the PS3 and keep a competitive market for next gen consoles.

[No Way]

The first few sentences of the article .. were correct, indeed. Sony Fanboys..
Anyway, all consoles make mistakes, but the pros outweigh the cons.

[MeNoRasta]

LOL its funny that i got marked as trolling when i stated facts.
The ps3 fanboys thinks the ps3 is 100% perfect when its not.

[WesMcLaren]

you didn't state facts buddy

[Treyb3yond]

Nothing is perfect, but as a gamer I'd like most of the games that are on the other console AND loads of my own exclusives.

That's just common sense. Pure and simple.

[KrystofKage1]

That's every console, not just PS3. Pretty clear what side of the fence you're on...

[Dice01]

(way off topic)I blame Microsofts dvd9 disk format as to why there is no free mode in Dynasty warriors 7. Games get bigger and better as time moves on. MS is still using old dvd9 format while Sony is using blu-ray.And some how, people don't even think about, or question why something in a franchise they have played before with a mode that has been there in every single game until now is missing. Same thing with most mutli plats this gen and charging people for dlc when it could all fit on a blu ray disk.

Screw MS man, screw the rrod fiasco, and screw all the retards that bought more than 2 360s after rrods. Screw all of you

Oh and screw the people who pay for xbox live, and screw the people that supported the random ass 10$ increase on the xbox live fees. You guys are fucking retarded. I'm off topic but screw any 360 fanboy reading these comments lol.

Screw you all

[Jason2]

Hmm I wonder if I'm a ps3 fanboy, I see the words ps3 fanboy thrown around so much, I hardly comment because I see a lot of sony haters and pro sony ppl on this site so I usually just sit back and read comments. What exactly is most of you guys definition of a ps3 fanboy? Just curious.

For the most part from what i've seen over the years, it kinda looks like most 360 fans or people who like the 360 kind of get mad at ps3 fans when they talk trash about the 360 and its faults, and usually retaliate with stupid ps3 fanboy or something along the lines of drones zombies idk I see a lot of people trash ps3 fans man. Its kinda lame because as a person who hardly ever does or says anything I grew up on ps1-3 I've always liked them as a company and for the most part no gaming company I've ever supported has done anything along the lines of what MS did this gen with the rrod situation. So what exactly is a ps3 fanboy?

[earbus]

More than happy with mine such joy over the years.

[Ima9er4Life]

LoL, look at your average Micronerds xbox360 user! I got both systems, I prefer my ps3. Alot less haters, psn fellaz give you credit when you get a good game. The 360, just a bunch of haters and white boys thinkin they hard. True story, i dont think ps3 is perfect, but not every fuckn game they got are shooters. Holla at ya boy!!!

[Neko_Mega]

This is why I like the first Xbox (not 360), because it was build better and didn't have alot of mistakes like the 360.

The hard drive part isn't to much of a big deal but it is nice having a hard drive over buying a cheaper model that at some point you need a hard drive.

[shammgod]

the kid in that picture may be one of the ugliest humans i have ever seen

[mendicant]

I think it's fair to say that all three of the big three have had their share of mistakes and triumphs this generation. That's why (at least for me) having all the platforms is the best route to take. You get the good and the bad.

At least none of them are in 3DO or Jaguar territory. Although I had several games for both of those systems that were good, fun games. And that is what it boils down to. Having fun. Many times it seems (at least on N4G) that is ignored. We're gamers because we love games, not because we love a particular company.

The biggest problem this generation is the amount of "power" fanboys have and the hatred for this console over another. I long for the 80's when it was about games and not names. At least it was for me, and it still is. Preferences are one thing, hatred is another. I love my PS3 and my Wii but I prefer my 360. To each his own I suppose.

[WetN00dle69]

Boy do fan***** love making these articles and whats more they love submitting and approving them.

[Kamikaze8]

Yay flamebait! /sarcasm.
Beat to death once again.

[larrym]

Everyone seems to forget the PS2 launched a YEAR before the Xbox or Gamecube. Come on guys, find a new excuse. Remember the embarrassing 2006 E3? Riiiidddge Racer!! Or how about crazy ass Ken talking about people wanting to work 2 jobs to buy a PS3, I wish I had what he was smoking back then.

It's fun to see anyone who is arrogant enough like that to have a big ass piece of humble pie, with a tall cool glass of STFU. Trust me, Microsoft has pissed me the f--k off too, but Sony needed to be humbled badly. It's like they were walking around with a big chip on their shoulders.

And guys, it's ok to own both consoles like I do, if you buy an Xbox 360, I won't tell Daddy Sony if you don't.

[mendicant]

Agreed, well stated.

[ForROME]

I think all these were pretty fair other than the Kinect one.

I think no internal wifi and DVD9 were bigger mistakes than kinect with no controller.

Look at the sales, Kinect has no issues.

[Codeman420]

The dumbest thing about htis article is the title "Stupidest" isnt a word. its "Most Stupid"

[Aquateenkid]

Stupidest isn't proper grammar.

[lh_swe]

Yeah, I was thinking the same, expecting one of the first comments to pick up on it...game journalism, huh? ;)

[Unknown_SNAKE]

i have a PS3 and i love it ... it was my choice back on 2007 beacuse i was bieleve in it's power and features.

But as a gamer i have to say for any angry fanboy
> accept the fact that 360 is still no. 2 world wide console on sales and it is a good console even if it has a lesser features or anything they mention.

it also have good ones :)
and there is not a place for one console winner anymore

you will have fun if you own the 3 consoles :)

next generation will be a lot better for gamers because it will be a harder competition for (SONY,Microsoft,Nintendo ...............)

[Treyb3yond]

Let's face facts: the original xbox was dropped like an ugly child because ms wanted to rush to market and literally muscle out the market leader (which was Sony at the time).

This backfired for a few reasons.

They didn't leave time to properly test their hardware.

They didn't anticipate the wii.

They underestimated Sonys first party studio strategy.

Now they're left in a situation where they have no plan going forward. It's like "oh crap, Sony has how many exclusives?? Let's buy some timed exclusive dlc and final fantasy 13 and hope nobody notices!" now it's "oh check out how well the wii is doing! Let's go in that direction because we can't convince our shareholders in this economic downturn, to invest in any studios!"

Next it'll be "well we made a decent dent in the market with 360, let's dump that and start again!"

Mark my words.

[Mondayding]

Didn't take long for this one to turn into a fanboy yawnathon did it.

[rapidturtle]

The PS3 is not perfect, but the lack of a hard drive in the arcade models by MS was unforgivable in my opinion. Especially after every original Xbox had one, and they marketed what a huge benefit it was over the PS2.

[DuneBuggy]

I dont see launching Kinect without a Kinect "controller" as a mistake.They hinted about somthing down the pipeline concerning that when it was still Natal. Good business decision IMO.
You introduce it as not requiring any controller then offer some sort of optional navigation/fire button that other games can take advantage of.
Releasing such a device at launch would have caused confusion (different "starter kits" etc) and "I already have a Wii" type attitudes.

[PooEgg]

I have things that I love and things that I hate about all of my gaming systems. Which do I like best, well probably whichever one I am playing the most that week.

I get a little tired of seeing these types of articles on N4G, no matter if they are bashing MS, Sony, or Nintendo it is all just nonsense more often then not written by some no-account fanboy. N4G could be a great multi-system news site, if only they could rise above all the fanboy drivel and focus on the real news. In fact just reworking the titles of a lot of articles might actually make them more newsworthy, but when you post something, and call it The Stupidest Mistakes Microsoft Made... it really does not matter what you say in your article, you have just lowered it to bias drivel and it becomes nonsense for fanboys to argue over, aka flamebait trash.

What would be great if N4G would create a place for these types of articles, separate from the place that real news belongs. That way the fanboys can still have their fun ranting at each other, and the rest of us won't have to scroll through tons of nonsense in order to get to the real gaming news.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

You never know. Rare could making a new Killer Instict. It's been a cameo in a lot of Rare games. Although I'm aware Microsoft has told Rare to focus on Kinect titles :/