First Ever Halo 3 reviews, one is perfect but both agree gfx look like Halo 2 in HD

Here's news of the first ever two Halo 3 reviews. The Official Xbox Magazine of Australia awarded Halo 3 a score of 10/10 despite citing that the graphics of Halo 3 look similar to Halo 2 but just in HD. Elsewhere, the official Xbox Magazine of Brazil awarded it a 9/10 again stating it looked like Halo 2 in HD but all in all it is a fantastic game.

[DreamTension]

that when I play Halo 3 on my SD TV it will look just like Halo 2?

I would like to read the entire reviews rather than 1 line, possibly taken out of context...

[JsonHenry]

So, I have played this game because a friend of mine got it early from a local retailer... and I have to say that I just can't agree with the whole "Halo 2 in HD" statement. The game looks head and shoulders above Halo 2 in HD. Especially the weapons and vehicles. Even the player models look ten times better.

The ONLY thing that I thought looked bland was the enviroment. And in this case I can see maybe comparing the two, but even the enviroment looks better than Halo 2 in HD. (although the terrain does not look a LOT better, it does look noticeably better)

[SorenK]

Totally agree with you Json Henry,

While it may not be on the top of the graphical heap, I thought that even the MP Halo3 beta looked much better than Halo2 single player campaign.

[Snukadaman]

i dont know...the halo beta graphics were nothing too write home about..maybe those were halo 2 in hd...im hearing the graphics were boosted up from the beta anyways so it all seems too be fitting into place.

[Nolando]

it looks only a bit better than halo 2, i mean its not the best looking game, but its up there.

it style definetly adds to its look.

[Shuriken 525]

Your a walking advert. Maybe you should get a life OUTSIDE the box.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

people like him and nazim, their box is their world, they are so totally afraid that if they ever take a step out of their little box, they would fall forever into an endless void.

[masterg]

I don't get how a mag can give the game 10 and say it looks like Halo 2 in the same review.

If a game like GTA4 were to look like GTA San Andreas HD it would get slaughtered.

[bluebrad1974]

The art style is the same, but I think the difference in graphics quality is obvious. Take a look for yourself....

[Dareaver1]

I guess all other countries must really like bashing the 360 and it's games outside of the U.S. I mean really, halo 3 looks like Halo 2 in HD. I'm sorry, but i just don't believe that. Maybe halo 2 for the pc looks like halo 2 in HD, but not Halo 3. The character models alone are insane to look at. Such intricate detail in the models, and then you have the environments. They look insane, i just finished watching the new Vidoc: Films and The Forge, and i was thoroughly impressed.

I guess (now this is if it's true what the mag said, because again TRANSLATION PLEASE!) everyone wants to take a pot shot at Halo3, because that is a way to get guaranteed attention from the gaming community and fanboys. Just like if a mag was to bash KZ2, it would get a lot of attention.

I think it's just a shame, perfect score with lackluster graphics, sounds a lil' fishy to me. Don't you guys think so too?

[marionz]

yeah ill make up my own mind in a few days thankyou

(via Gamespot.com members quoting the review)

(via Gametrailers.com forum member quoting the review)

this doesnt tell me sh1t

[Odion]

All the new photo's and people preview of the game, point to that not being true

[spammy_nooo]

How does a short game with outdated graphics get a perfect score? sounds like pressure on reviewers and/or fanboyism to me.

I still think this game should reasonably earn a 8.5-9.5.

[Snukadaman]

since most people will be on that instead of the single player game anyways...also with being able too film matches...forge..i think your slightly biased on the whole thing especially since you never played the halo series right?

[tehcellownu]

How can halo 3 get a perfect score when the graphics isnt there?? everyone knows halo 3 look like halo 2..the hardcore fans just refuse to admit it..

[spammy_nooo]

i've played the Halo series. Multiplayer at friends houses and stuff. I've never actually OWNED the series.

I am including the multiplayer in my score. If a game has flaws, how is it 'perfect'? All I'm saying is that there are some pretty big problems like the short single player campaign and the outdated graphics. Those two things allow for at least half of a point deducted from the final score I would think.

The perfect scores aren't because it's a perfect game, it's because its Halo 3, and that's not right.

btw since when is a 9.0 or 9.5(or even an 8.5) a BAD score?

[DeFFeR]

I'm a self admited xbox fanboy when a nerve get's twitched the wrong way, but 8.5 for Halo might as well be a 3 or 4 when the other fanboys get wind....like Sony, or Wii. Sony would eat that for lunch... It's all about perception. Our culture tells us that it's not acceptable for us to try a game for ourselves, that we have to listen to someone elses opinion because they are "experts" and they "get paid to review." Ok, what if you like things that they don't? You're going to listen to them, and possibly miss out on somthing you'd enjoy.

... 9.25 will probably be around the average for 3.

[Snukadaman]

people complained about HS with the time you get out of the game...graphics were never a issue...if hs had some sort of multiplayer options then maybe it deserved more then the 8.0 it gots on metacritic. No one said 8.5 wasnt decent...i just called you out on YOUR scores being someone who never owned the series. I myself didnt score HS considering i dont own it but i can point out that it being short sucks right?

[s8anicslayer]

this is just some reviews from some overseas mag's,this is thier thoughts of the game,we'll be the judge come tuesday at 12:30 am

[killercam19]

shlt i'll still take it

[Bigmac573]

/flamesuits on, kids!

[xaphanze]

Halo 2 graphics in HD? and they give it a 10? Graphics is an important factor in the game. Even if the game is perfect in terms of gameplay it shouldnt score a 10 if the graphics arent that great.
We all know Halo will get 10s from most reviewers just for being ''Halo''.

[Odion]

1. Its 8 hours on normal difficulty, the setting that normal gamers should never play it at, on Heroic it clocks in at around 10 to 11 hours.

2. Everything points to the game not looking like Halo 2 in HD

[DJ]

Normal isn't 'normal'? My friends and I all started Halo on either Beginner or Intermediate (i.e. Normal) difficulty, not Legendary (except for Alex, but he just flat out rocks at everything). The game is 8 hours long on Normal Difficulty, and that just pisses Odion off, which is why he's emphasizing that people should only be playing on the higher difficulty settings.

[projectile]

If it gets perfect score with outdated graphics, the gameplay must rock!

[Odion]

actually if you ever listen to Bungie, they've only ever played the game on Heroic, and they have always said, that Easy is for people who have never played a game, and Normal is for someone who has never played a FPS , Heroic is the difficulty level normal FPS players should be playing at and Legendary is really built for 4 player co-op.

I am not making this up this is whats been said.

[GrumpyOla]

I think 8-10 hours is rather short for such an epic game espcially if it's the last in the series. Maybe bungie was limited by the DVD9 space. Maybe they should have made the multiplayer on a separate disc if that's possible.

[ElementX]

Halo has it's own style of grapics. They're not supposed to be uber realistic. The game just has that sort of cartoony look and that's fine. Play the game for what it is. If the others sold how many millions, why change what sells? If they completely redid graphics it wouldn't be the same game.

Halo has not been tops in the graphics department. Gameplay is where it shines.

EDIT: I mean HAS NOT been tops in graphics

[JokesOnYou]

screenshots & short vids of gameplay & preview hands on that say different, so we'll see what mags and other sites besides these xbox mag's from australia and brazil say, especially since this is supposedly from a gamespot memeber quoting one line from the review= lets see what the majority consensus is, well they gave it a 10/10 so it must be a damm good game anyway, unless you want to have it both ways and believe their opinion of the graphics but then cry about their opinion of what score it gets, maybe it impressed them so much where it counts the most (gameplay/fun factor) that they think it truly deserves a 10=

JOY

[Jinxstar]

True. At the end where they always give the final score it always says "This is not an average" Kinda how lair got a 4.9 and such... Its what they think the game deserves overall... Sometimes its not right how its scored but thats up to them to decide. We make our own choices. I work tuesday so I wont get to play until wednesday... /cry... Damn 24 hour shifts...

[Priince-KhaliiF]

Talkin about how short HS was LOL!

[ktchong]

HS does not have multiplayer.

[DJ]

magically make the single-player experience longer.

[LoydX-mas]

I guess having a "next-gen, super capacity, space is no longer a problem" Blu-ray disc didn't make HS any longer either.

They probably shouldn't have put 10 gigs of sound on it and focused more on game length.

[Munky]

You simple minded turd. It's about replay value when the lenght of a video comes into question. So you may be right that the the campaign might be on the short side when it comes to Halo3, but the multiplayer will add endless replay value to the game. That is the main and glaring difference between Halo 3 and HS, after the 6-8 hours is done with HS, it is done. But after "finishing the fight", however long that takes, people will be (as with Halo 2) playing the multiplayer for years to come. You, as a self admitted Halo 2 junkie should know better then to doubt that this game will live up to all the hype, so stop crying and accept it. BELIEVE.

[GIJeff]

Heavenly Sword has a TRULY EPIC story/acting/sound/experience that is WORTH experiencing. I'm not saying halo doesnt, but until youve experienced HS with a nice sound system and a nice tv, you and your opinion can eat $H!T.

[DJ]

when I was talking about Heavenly Sword. Do people even read the posts they're responding to anymore? I bought Heavenly Sword today, and after about 5 hours I just finished Chapter 3 out of 5. It's definitely been an amazing experience so far; the animation and audio are spot on, and the number of enemies onscreen at times is incredible.

There's also no fat whatsoever progression-wise. The story just keeps pushing and doesn't let the pace slow down too much. It's obvious after playing more than halfway through that the developers could've added gameplay that didn't tie into the story (i.e. filler), but they decided not to, and there's a good reason as to why. Hopefully they add true platforming controls into the sequel, because it needs that kind of freedom.

[TheBeginningOfTheEnd]

maybe the reason that halo 3's graphics arent super realistic is that it has split screen co-op.

bunige could have made it look fantastic like in the target vieo of E3 06, but for a console to do that x2 i think would be impossible.

i dont think that killzone will have splitscreen co-op beacuse it uses a helluva lot of ps3 power... but if it does then holy sh!t the ps3 is powerful.

but nice reviews, picking my copy at 12:00

[s8anicslayer]

so will I buddy,so will I!

[Jinxstar]

If you have comcast. Go to G4 on demand. They have a halo special thing there. Under I think Game invasion look at Halo Valhalla I think... Its the beta like 6 minutes worth... Not gonna give my opinion on it you decide.

[Ri0tSquad]

Im waiting for a review from gamespot nexxxxt

to be honest i have to disagree with these guys halo 3's graphics are way better then 2s

[JasonXE]

the third pic, looks like so much fun.

[Dr Pepper]

The person from OXM (US) said this:

"Only thing to say here is that the graphics? Well done. If you were disappointed in the beta, well you got nothing to worry about."

(gamesradar)

Doesn't sound like Halo 2 HD to me. Interesting that two OXM mags would have such different opinions.

[Daxx]

Atleast I think Halo 3 looks like Halo 3.

[jcgamer]

you would think this site were a bunch of supermodels...all this talk of gorgeous graphics overshadowing flawed gameplay...imagine if Halo 3 was flawed in the gameplay department? Well don't imagine for too long...finish the fight...

[OmegaKulu]

is this that surprising? its Halo, 1-3 all base on the same theme, of course they looks alike. non the less, it will be a great online game for those 360 owners.

[s8anicslayer]

give bungie a little creit,the graphic's will look alot better then halo 1 and 2

[ktchong]

This is just phucking great. I submitted this very same story hours before this one was submitted, but Sony fanboys approved this one and completely bypassed my earlier submission (which got here first) because this one has negative spin.

[ktchong]

and there are people who reported that this one is a duplicate and is a negative spin, and gave link to the earlier submission with the same story, but Sony fanboys still approved it. Wow. That's just a new low.

[ChronoTrigger87]

no offense. its kinda funny how you said it. anyways you do submit great stuff so cheer up.

[jcgamer]

I agree bro...hey, great thing you don't sell yourself short for a hot story...I know I don't...well, one...but I'll just leave that one in ancient memory..I was a trainer then...lol...you can PM me if you wanna know...and yes, some things on this site need a bit of sorting out...cheer up, you're a great contributor...

[magqcc7]

No matter what anyone says,because of the hype surrounding this game,and all the "yes men", this game will garner no less than a 9.5 or 10.(Even though the graphics are sub-par,all the ads soda,etc.)Don't waste time looking for a negative review.

[IQUITN4G]

All the shots of late are not in the least bit disapointing.Even the latest multiplayer vid on live is completely good enough for me so i don't quite know what they were expecting.

Just go straight to Bungie and check out the lovely ingame shots.

Had a friend say to me today that while he's been on holiday, he was shown the opening level and told by one of the staff how absolutley nothing comes close to how well this game plays.Apparantley replayability is much much higher this time round because the nature of what happens in levels now.A game that refuses to get boring apparantley and that's just the campaign.

Find out soon enough.

Considering a lot of us still play the first two games regularly, this it seems is very good news.

[the_round_peg]

This one got approved and the other one did not?????

This one got spin, does not use the original source, is badly edited, and got here about seven hours after the other submission with the same story - but this one still got approved!

Wow. Just wow.

This is just wrong. N4G is completely ruined by fanboys. I would encourage people to continue to report this one as a duplicate, and approve that one.

[cmrbe]

Saying that Halo 3 is just Halo 2 in HD.I already looked at screen shots and they are much better than H2 in my opinion. Anyways i guess it got ten for its story which in my opinion is what i like about the halo series having both played H1 and H2. I expect 9.5 rating or more for this game.

[ktchong]

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Imagine my surprise when I got back and found out that this one got approved but mine did not. Worst of all, this one is a huge spin, and s8anicslayer has the gall to tell me that my story sucks!?

Hello? I quoted everything directly from the source (forum posts) word-by-word without spinning anything. This N4G is getting ridiculous.

I was going to change my submission, but after I'd thought about it, now I'm not.

[Rageaholic]

I've been saying this for the longest time.

Although halo 3 is an upgrade from halo2 it does not look awesome or next gen. Yet ppl still disagreed with me, and Im pretty sure they will disagree again.

For ppl living in Canada, go to your local futureshop and they show a video of halo 3. Uninspiring graphically.

So far no other game on xbox comes close to the graphics of gears on the xbox.

edit:

Sorry I have a 100 inch projector and I've seen gears, heavenly sword, and lair on my screen... meaning I see all the imperfections even at 720p /1080i, these 3 games are graphically on the same level.

[BIadestarX]

Here let me fix that line a bit.

"So far no other game on xbox comes close to the graphics of gears on any console."...

Halo 3 was not designed for graphic whores... it was designed for the fanbase that is still playing Halo 2.. You see.. graphics get old quickly but not gameplay. You remember back when the PS1 came out... people went wow! looks real... go back and try playing with those graphics... same goes with Halo 2, some games on the PS2 were probably more graphically superior than Halo 2... where are they now? are people still playing them? They are dead... Halo 3 though it does not look like gears.. people will probably play it way longer than gears and probably longer than any game on any other console.. that's next gen. They didnt promise eye candy.. they promised something better than Halo 2... is halo 3 better than halo 2? lets see.
Let's see what you say 4 years from now about let's say Kill Zone 2... when it comes to graphics.. when the we start seing next gen consoles.

[BIadestarX]

Most Sony fanboys are graphics whores.. which is why they rather have games like lair... looks great buy suck @$$ to play. So they come here and try to flame Halo 3 for having one of the best online multiplayer experience and a great single player campaign. This game will shine online.. which was their primary focus.

Here, just to piss you a little more... Halo 3 even with last gen graphics (as you say) will rape any games that you can possible name in term of installbase and sells.. whats even worst 5 years from now people will be playing it.

uhhh that must really piss you off.

Edit:
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@Rageaholic - One thing is to attach a game which have certain type of art style. For example, how come Rachet and Clan for the PS3 look like cartoons and not like Gears of war? get it?
and another to compare the same shipped for 2 different console and one of them having to be dumb down in order to be able to port it.

[Rageaholic]

Graphics play a great roll in gaming, if graphics dont matter Ill still be playing my sprite games.

Its the natural progression of gaming. IMO you need good graphics coupled with gameplay to add to the full experience to gaming.

Its funny how you saying sony fans are graphics whores but!!!!!!
its usually the XBOX fanboys that point out the graphical differences from ports.... ie.. blades of grass found on DIRT

edit:
and oh yah one more point, yah ppl will be still be playing halo 3 3 years from now, because in all honesty IMO these ppl are deprived.

To this day I still see ppl play halo 2, and they rave on and on about how amazing the multiplayer is. I just played halo 2 last week 5 hours straight with my friends and it just feels like a GENERIC shooter. Although my friends that I was playing with are hardcore xbox fanboys and halo fans hahahah I still managed to OWN them with my standard fps tactics learned from fps gaming on the pc. Even with all the ownage you would expect I would think my immediate reaction would be this game is AWESOME. But in the end it just felt like a generic shooter.

In the end I DO not feel pissed of that ppl will be playing this game in 5 years, I just feel more sorry for ppl still playing with a generic shooter. Honestly this is my opinion and I felt the same exact feeling about when ppl were raving about golden eye on the n64.

And my opinion is based off all my years of playing shooters since wolf 3d.

Last Edit: btw although im more of a ps3 fan vs a xbox fan, I can assure you Resistance Fall of Man is not that good. It felt just as boring as when I played halo 1 and 2. But that is my opinion.

[Morph1ous]

LOL sooo funny guys. If Halo 3 was a ps3 release and graphics were just better than halo 2 we would never hear the end of it. Now graphics dont make the game blah blah blah. Gotta love the fanboy bs. LOL

[kevin1122]

rage, dont bother with blade. he is a hypocrite like most fanboys.

[SofaKingReetodded]

that anyone expecting next gen graphics was going to be dissappointed with Halo 3. A BETA by definition is the stage where FINAL GRAPHICS have been implemented. Outdated graphics won't stop Halo 3 from being a good game but it;s time xbots started talking on the level about the graphical limitations of the 360. For example I just picked up stranglehold for the 360 and it has MAJOR framerate problems in some areas where as the PS3 version is smooth as butter( although I will admit that it is the PS3 demo this is being compared to).

oh dear, not another one of these "you don't really own an xbox360" idiot comments. I would take a picture of my setup but I would spend more time finding a reason to care wether some dumb xbot believes me or not. Not to mention the fact that everytime I get paid I can buy over 20 360's if I wanted to. The sad reality is that I feel I just bought a box that only has MASS EFFECT, Halo, and eventually Gears 2 that really interest me, everything else I can play on the PS3 much smoother and better looking.

You xbots may not believe me but I really want this game to look like the "screenshots" power of mean is posting in this thread but the BETA and now these reviews might be indicating that is not the case. When I pickup Halo 3 this week and if the graphics turn out no better or slightly better than the BETA then I fear for this consoles future.

@Matt, stop being an idiot dude, Stranglehold is actually a good game.

[BIadestarX]

You just couldn't help it. eh? I was planning to leave sony fanboys alone and probably end my crusade against these B!tche$... but how could I with m@#$#@ f@#$@#$ like this one?

What are you stupid or a sony fanboy? "started talking on the level about the graphical limitations of the 360."... care to explain how Gears butt raped virually every PS3 game and made resistance fall of man resistance fall of crapstation? Let's talk about Mass Effect?

"For example I just picked up stranglehold for the 360 " another stupid comments comming from this fecal matter.... I downloaded the demo no framerate here.

Death to all Sony fanboys!

[s8anicslayer]

your a blundering fool!why do you carry so much hatred in yourself about games?gears has gotta be my all time fav game,but why are you comparing gears to sony launch games?your a rabid dog and it's people like you who ruin sites like this with your phycotic comments!And oh by the way,you can't spell.Go get yourself an edumacation and stop staring at your cousins breasteses's

[SofaKingReetodded]

judging from your reaction Id say I hit a sorespot. I actually think the 360 is a decent machine (when it works), that said I got this new HDMI model I made sure I got Best Buy's two year trade it in for any reason plan. MS sure is good for the economy I'll give em that.

[Ugly American]

Rabbid... is spelled rabid. or maybe you were thinking of a rabbit. Or maybe a rabbi. DO NOT KNOCK OTHERS' SPELLING WHEN YOU CANNOT SPELL YOURSELF! I understand that most people on this website spell it rabbid, but they are wrong to. Idiot.

[MattFoley]

Sofa King you actually bought that game! Wow you must be really bored or really stupid cause the demo was the worst thing I have played since, well I couldnt tell you cause its that bad. Let me guess running up railings is cool to you and so is awkwardly sliding over tables. So I guess your comment would make sense then.

[mesh1]

u dont have an xbo 360as if u did u kno wur talking garbage i know about grapi capapbilties and if u think mgs 4 does not have the crappiest game engine for a next gen game then ur lieing to ur self plz put screens of mgs4 and halo 3 and compare grapics

[jay3]

...I got the collectors edition :cry:

[Morph1ous]

Lets compare a game that came out a year after the console was launched, to the launch titles of the Ps3. Pls both launch lineups blew so dont say omgZ Gears pwns resistance. Well i hope that a game that came out 1 year after launch would pwn a launch title. ANd you call people fanboys.. Wow.

[TJ Crucial]

"And oh by the way,you can't spell"

You shouldn't throw stones when you're living in a glass house.

It's Psychotic.

[jaja1434]

Honestly how "pretty" can you make a guy in pink armor look!
*hears in the background* Its not pink damm it, its bright red!

[Daxx]

Halo 3 does have more polygons than Halo 2 when I look at the screen shot comparisons. How I can tell is that Halo 2 is using more bit mapping to imitate a 3D object when it fact it is 2D. When you look at the armor you can notice these differences.

But I could care less about graphics (And I mean for every game) gameplay matters to me the most. The gameplay in Halo 3 is going to be grand, great, stellar, awesome, fun, replayable, and really really addictive.

On another note:
If you guys want awesome games variants send a friend request to Daxx 25 and I'll send you what I have made in the Forge. "FUBAR" will be my first project. Feel free to share FUBAR with other friends when I've given it to you.

[Bonsai1214]

i can't wait to play this game either way... to be honest with you guys, do any of you think you'll pay much attention to the graphics when your'e lanning with a bunch of your friends? i think not.. as long as it retains the fun factor in multiplayer of halo 1, i'll be fine with it.

[Like a shadow I am]

Graphic does not make a game great.

Gameplay > Graphic.

[Covenant]

I've said it a hundred times...guess I have to say it a hundred and first...

Halo is about GAMEPLAY, not GRAPHICS.

Graphics are secondary.

Much as I like visuals, I'm going to be spending too much time slaughtering Covenant and online opponents to be worried about how realistic that bush or tree or rock looks.

[Ugly American]

Is that REALLY a bad thing? With Halo's stylized graphics and Halo 2 being almost the pinnacle of what you could do on the original Xbox, is calling Halo 3: Halo 2 in HD REALLY a bad thing? I do not think so. Compare Halo 1 to Halo 2... and the jump between the two games is incredible.

Regardless, this game is going to kick ass. And I cannot wait.

[jay3]

I think the thing is Halo 2 was one of the best looking games of "Last gen", and looked good enough to be next gen. Halo 2 looked great, so if it does look like HD Halo 2...It's not bad. And it doesn't so yay!

[jazzmanb]

sofaking,do you know what your talkin bout? played gears or bioshock? because both of those games look far superior to any ps3 game..like i stated about 25 times,the 360 is a tad more powerful than the ps3..regardless halo3 well look amazing[read 1ups last preview]but it still is using an enhanced halo engine,so the looks well be improved all over the place,but not to the degree,and of a newer unreal3 engine..the 360 has not hit its ceiling,not even close,and lets remember that a game like gears couldnt have been done on the ps3 because of the advanced shaders in that game..halo3 well also have some of the best lighting and draw distance ever put to a game..enough with the false bashing,because we all realize that the graphics on the ps3 well never get better than the 360,they can only hope to comete..

[kevin1122]

you my friend are a moron. unreal tournament looks better than gears of war and guess what, it's for the ps3. It also will come out a year after the ps3 has been out just like gears did for the 360. So if we go by your fanboy logic, the ps3 actually has a graphically better looking game than the 360 did in it's first year. See, i just beat you at your own game.

[chanto23]

cause now i'm sure Kill Zone 2 will destroy Halo 3 on the graphics department...gameplay? thats another topic that its still up for grabs...but if KZ2 online its at least 75% as good as Halo it will be nasty...still im picking my Halo 3 copy at midnight launch event at my local Gamestop...=)

[jack who]

dream on dream on...

[Monty_The_Great]

said it before, but these reviews cement the fact that gameplay out weighs graphics ten fold.

[beavis4play]

no, they say that OXM mags will give biased reviews even though the game has flaws.

[Rageaholic]

Bladestar's comments in this thread has just opened my eyes about the xbox fanboy base.

Xbox fanboys tend to settle for 2nd best only.

Let put this out into the field GAMEPLAY in a game is a purely a SUBJECTIVE matter. We can go on days and days saying the gameplay is good or bad, but in the end it still comes down to opinion.

But when it comes down to graphics, it is much less subjective. Yes there is that argument about art direction of a developer but if the polygon count is low, lighting is mediocre and textures are bland it is safe to say the graphics are not that good in halo 3. Dont get me wrong Halo 3 is a great improvement over halo 2 but it does not look stellar (sorry but fanboys even hyped to graphics long before these reviews came out). A good example of awesome artwork but crappy graphics is warcraft 3.

Again the general consensus I see from xbox fanboys NOW in this thread is that they dont mind crappy graphics and they care about gameplay (which is very subjective).

This also trickles back to all the other comments vs the ps3

DVD -9 is good enough, blu-ray is not needed, everthing should be compressed on dvd-9 compression is good enough
component is good enough, hdmi is not needed
hd-dvd 30 is good enough, there is no need for 50 gb's on blu ray

It just seems that xbox fanboys are satisfied with 2nd best.

[s8anicslayer]

fanboy's in general are dumb!but xbot's are just bitter people.

[WilliamRLBaker]

yes that must be it, Because we all know every ps3 game so far has received a perfect rating right?

We all know the ps3 is in first right?

We all know the ps3 isn't geting its ass kicked in every region right?

LOL 2nd best because the 360 doesn't have more games, better rated games, lower price, more sales, higher install base then ps3 right?

I'm using the ps3 because there are no Wii fanboys.
So im assuming your a ps3 fanboy.

and yes slayer only xbots are bitter? rightttttttttttttttt you nullified your entire statement of all fanboys suck and dumb when you singled out the xbots.

[JokesOnYou]

Halo3 these screenshots show there is a huge difference between Halo2 on the Xbox and Halo3 on 360

Halo2 xbox:
http://www.xbox360degrees.c...

Halo3 360:
http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

these are some taken off screen from the campaign:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I dont know what more you want Halo3 looks fkn sweet, the only reason some may say different is because they might not like the art style as much as they like the grity, dark realistic type atmosphere, but this is Halo and Bungie has made a helluva game, just suck it up sonykids=

JOY

[jack who]

umm i play halo2 on my hdtv in 1080P and still look no where close to halo 3 beta....so am i missin something here?

[P1MPDADDY]

Give me a break all you Sony loving Microsoft hating fanboys. If you think the graphics in Halo 3 could be done on the PS2 or original Xbox you are dumber than a box of rocks. Why would Bungie make Halo 3 look like Gears of War or Killzone 2 if the first 2 Halo games had such a different, brighter, more colorful, almost cartoony look to those games??? They made the game look like this on purpose to stay within the theme of Halo. Even the beta looked way better than Halo 2's graphics. So I'm sorry it doesnt look like Heavenly Sword, Lair, or Motorstorm. But only a baffoon would say it's Halo 2.5 or Halo 2 in HD.

Do you idiots realize that just about every single game released for the PS3 or 360 is not graphically possible on the Wii let alone the Dreamcast, Xbox, PS2, or Gamecube. This is the next gerenration of videogames. Damn I remember the first time I played Perfect Dark and was blown away with how much more detail the graphics had than anything I had played on the Xbox. Do you realize how much more detail goes into these games thanks to the higher resolutions??? Do any of you guys have an HDTV??? Do you know the difference between 480i/480p and 720p/1080i??? Next generation 1080P games will be the standard, so the level of detail will be even better.

Anyone who knocks Halo 3 because of its graphics is just jealous that they cant buy it for thier Sony or Nintendo console. When I read this crap it makes me want to vomit. This is coming from someone who has been enjoying Warhawk for the past few weeks almost nonstop. Warhawks graphics arent exactly top quality either. Are we that spoiled by a game like Gears of War, or Crysis, or some Killzone 2 screenshots that any game that doesnt have graphics that match or exceed those games is crap???

I dont know about the rest of you but I played the beta for Halo 3. It was more fun thany anything I have played for either the 360 or PS3 to date. Come Tuesday morning at about 12:30am PST I am going to "Finish The Fight". Till then it's time to find a Missle Turret and continue to frag away in Warhawk!!!

[jack who]

i dont think ppl know the meanin of that any more..

[kn]

Goodness... the anti-Halo sony force is out in force in this thread... Just a quick note... Nothing you Halo Haters can do or say at this point will stop this game from being a phenomenal commercial success. Give it a rest and find something productive to complain about.

[synetic]

already played a pirate version in the house of a friend and we finished the single player in 7 hours .. about the graphics well they are superior to halo 2 but not very much .. i think the game deserve a 8.5/10 ... but gears of wars was better at lest in single player .

[00]

think you're lieing

[mesh1]

i stop reading from when u said gears of war had a beter single player than halo3 i loved halo 1 hated halo 2 and from what ive seen wil love halo 3 gears of war is the most boring single player exp ive had so when u say that we already know u wish u had an xbox ur a sony bot

[cmrbe]

It will be a shame if these next 2 days before halo 3 launch will be fulled by constant bickering between halo fans and non halo fans on NG4. We should all be applauding a great game and especially a great developer like bungie as it looks like they will in fact deliver a great game despite the huge huge pressure that has been placed on them. Developers like them such as epic, insomniac should all be applauded for their efforts and not have their games drag through the mud just because its not on your console of choice. A great game is a great game. Can we just leave it as that.

[spammy_nooo]

It's the Halo fans that are the problem. Most(I repeat, MOST) non-halo fans that aren't sony fanboys are VERY reasonable a.k.a NORMAL. saying a game should get a 9/9.5 out of ten shouldn't warrant disagrees from anybody. Somehow Halo fanboys find a way to turn 'just' 90 or 95% into a bad thing and that is what causes problems.

Just to let you hardcore Halo fans know, there is no such thing as a AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA game.

[SofaKingReetodded]

the xbot retreat from "this game will graphically pwn anything it's path" to "well it's gameplay that matters and you sony fanboys are just graphicswhores". All I can say is WOW.

yeah that's why every 360 now carries an "oops we didn't think we would need this" HDMI port. You're officially an idiot.

[P1MPDADDY]

Nothing else currently available for retail on either the PS3 or 360 looks as good as Gears of War so far. That doesnt stop me from buying/playing other games on either console. All these games are still a noticable progression from last gen graphics. Do idiots like yourself still think the PS3 is twice as powerful as the 360? Are you still waiting beyond for those 4D graphics running at 120fps in 1080P resolution all thanks to the awesome supercomputer power of the PS3.

News Flash: This just in. Sony overhyped the PS3. It's happened before. I mean arent we still waiting for those CGI-quality graphics that the PS2 was supposed to deliver???

I own both consoles. They both have good games. They both have HD graphics that no other console before or since (Wii) can provide. What makes me laugh is that the 360 has already proved that you dont need HDMI, Blu-Ray, 1080P, or Cell for awesome HD videogames. When will you Sony Sausage Smugglers wipe that Ken Kutaragi Manchowder from your eyes and realize that the 360 can provide games just as good as the PS3 can for less money??? Sorry boys 360 isnt going anywhere, the PS3 and 360 are in for a long, hard fight. In the end I am the winner because I own both consoles therefore I dont have to choose which games not to play because I am not loyal to either brand.

Honestly I wish Halo 3 was on the PS3 so you jealous, insecure PS3 fanboys could enjoy a great game and stop spreading FUD about this game because you would rather watch Blu-Ray movies than play HD videogames. Brand Loyalty is for losers!!!

[power of Green]

The only thing Halo 3 has in common with Halo 2 graphiclly is art Design...

You got to be out of your mind if you think Halo 3 is Halo 2 in HD. I think people get confused on what looks good thinking games have to be 3 shades of brown and grey to look next gen.

Halo 3:

http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

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[spammy_nooo]

I think you are the one who is confused. It's not that people think a game has to be 3 shades of brown or grey to look good, it's that you think that any game that actually is brown and grey looks bad, even when one looks as good as Killzone 2.

People are also putting Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction, Project Gotham Racing 4, and Uncharted:Drake's Fortune on a pedestal for excellent graphics. Those right there(especially R&C) are some colorful games that just happen to look magnificent.

[akaFullMetal]

well if gameplay is way better than graphics ( which is true, but i thought nextgen was both) then I guess i wont see anymore 360 fanboys bashing a ps3 game if it doesnt have the best graphics, or looks as good as gears, as long as it's gameplay is awesome?? am i right???

[spammy_nooo]

You're wrong. Double standards are a b*tch huh?

[WilliamRLBaker]

nope because its called fanboyism you better learn it and get used to it.
And as for that Its obvious halo 3 is better looking then halo 2, every single halo fan can agree on that.

[jack who]

nuff said

[THE TERMINATOR]

Halo 2 graphics in HD and only 8 hours long DAAAAMN.

[strongbad1441]

i have no problem with the halo series, and would definitely buy halo 3 if i had a 360, but no game deserves a 10/10.

my personal favorite game is ffvii, and i think that game deserves a 9.8/10, because there is no such thing as a perfect game

[Monty_The_Great]

I have been at N4G for almost 2 months now, and have never seen a game with as much attention as H3. My question is if any game has ever been this high? And if so, what game?

[power of Green]

You're wasting your time haters the graphics are fine the game is 8 hours long with Multi player whats the PS3's excuse with Heavenly Sword Etc?.

[THE TERMINATOR]

At least Heavenly swords graphics are amazing, whats your excuse for Halo 3?

[FirstknighT]

Great scores....9/10 and 10/10 and I wouldn't expect anything less. Sony boys are trying to spin this into a negative but who cares what they say. The 360 is taking over!!!!

I can't believe you sony fools are trying to debate about the length of this game and comparing it with Heavenly Sword. After the 6-7 hours it takes to beat Heavenly Sword and you put it away. That's called a Rental. After the 8-10 hours it takes to beat Halo 3, you can play a lil 4-player coop on legendary, you can add a plethora of goodies in each mission using Forge, and of course...the best multiplayer experience on any console. That's called a AAA title!!!

Besides, us 360 owners never had a problem with gameplay averaging 8-10 hours, it's the ps3 boys that did ALL the bashing when Gears was only 8-10 hours. And they sure looked stupid after HS clocked in at only 6 hours.

It's almost time Halo fans :)

[MattFoley]

I have Gears and Halo 3 and I like the graphics on Halo better by far. thats just me though and a lot of gears isnt rendered but bit mapped or so I have heard. The game itself is a little short but if you play on legendary it should take awhile. All in all bungie delivered what they promised. Other then length there is nothing I can really complain about except that it is the last one. In my opinion it lives up to the hype I just hope they make another Halo that goes in a different direction.

[The BS Police]

It jsut shows how great the gameplay is, grqaphics do not matter as long as the game has endless playability and fun, and that is what the hal franchise excels at... fun and great gameplay that offers tons of replayability.

Also, it is not Halo 2 in HD.

[Wii60_FTW]

Halo 3:

http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

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http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

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http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

http://xbox360media.ign.com...

http://xbox360media.ign.com...

http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

KZ2:

http://www.ukresistance.co....

GETPWNED

[BIGBAER]

And what a stark comparison to the KZ2 photo. KZ2(at least that image) is not even close to being in the same league as Halo3. Wow, just wow!

[THE TERMINATOR]

Official XBOX Magazine "Halo 2 graphics in HD".
Its not me who said it but the OFFICIAL Xbox magazine.
Looks like the 360 has been maxed out graphically so much for its much vaunted GPU, what a load of crap.

[Blitzed]

This isnt the greatest looking game ever, but from the stuff I've seen it looks much better than H2 (HD or not).

The 10/10 though? I dont know. What reviewer is really going to try and take down Halo?

[Daxx]

To sum this whole argument up, everyone to their own.

Halo 3, on the 25th/26th and so on, will sell millions regardless of what you all think. Fanboys, Trolls, Members, Mods, and Admins alike will not be able to change the course of this game with their comments. N4G is just a mere whisper among the millions of shouting voices and joyful cheers from Halo fans across the globe.

All the haters can do is hate. They can't do anything and they won't do anything but post their comments on forums and on articles.

[kevin1122]

well its more like the shouts of halo fans across the united states, not the globe.

[Daxx]

Okay then you tell my German friend, Cesar, that he's not a Halo fan and see what he does to you.

[mesh1]

this article is fake i clicked the link and didnt seee the sttement why ? a viewer is the translator so its fake why wud areviews gie it 10/10 ? if it looked liek halo 2 and we have all seeen it play and ofc it not halo 2 haha so good try

[Chris_GTR1]

seriously. all the halo fanboys gotta shut up here. this is OXM were talking about here.. if the freaken Official xbox magazine says the graphics are halo 2 HD then that means the graphics are halo 2 HD. they review games for a living here. theyve passed the game multiple times and have played the multiplayer.

if you havent played the game then your opinion is void on the graphics

and you know what the funny thing is though. when i played the beta i remember thinking to myself the EXACT SAME THING. i always thought of this game as the expansion to halo 2. it uses the same engine and everything. its really dated.

[The BS Police]

Sony fanboys bashed OXM becuase of so called Biased reviews.

In my view Halo 3 is not Halo 2 in Hd becuase it looks to much ebtter than Halo 2 to be considered Halo 2 HD.

[mesh1]

any game to me look better than the current mgs game that game looks awfull and its coming out 2008 have u seen the grapics of mgs haha plz looks liek an xbox game tweaked

[jaja1434]

Graphics-someone said somewhere in this thread that graphics are not subjective when in fact they are.

First I'll use a ps2 game Katamari, in no way does that game look remotely realistic, but it was praised for its graphics.

Eternal Sonata(yea I reference this game a lot, I love it that much) it is also praised for its graphics and once again, its not realistic.

My point is that games do not have to look realistic to have good graphics. Hell I poked fun of this somewhere in this thread when I said you can only make pink armor look so good, but thats just the point. Halo is meant to be as nasium would say "toony" and no matter how advanced things get, toony will always look toony. So for the love of good stop comparing it to KZ2 or MGS$ as those games try to look realistic.

Hell look at R@C I'm sure most PS3 people will say it has great graphics but would then forget Halo, more or less, has the same style.

And finally that same guy who said graphics are subjective also said the x-box people settle for I think "good enough" He bought up dvd9 because for some reason everything boils down to dvd9... But you know what, it is "good enough". Now if you compare dvd9 to blu-ray or HD DVD hell yea dvd9 is worse, but who gives a flying *&#@. DVD9 works just great this generation. Thats like saying you need a Viper GTS to get to work and back, sure it nice but it sure as hell isn't needed.

Lastly HD-DVD(30 gig) vs blu-ray(50gig) Well HD is going to be 51(gig) soon enough but for the sake of argument. There is no reason, none whats so ever, that you should need even 20gigs of space right now unless of course you don't compress everything. Now is the extra space nice, sure its great, but it wont make a better game/movie and for this generation at least, it just isn't needed. And please if you respond doth bring up any RPG as historically they are almost always multi disc and and if you a problem changing a disc every 20 or so hours, you have more problems than a limited intelligence.

[BlazinEurasian]

halo models look much better than previous halo's while the environment doesn't look that great next gen. However halo's gameplay is in the top echelon of video games.

[Imalwaysright]

10/10 with those graphs??? I thougth that the final score was an average between graphs sound, gameplay, ...

[TheExodus]

"It's Halo 2 in HD," but isn't that the point hence the name Halo 3? I'd imagine there would be a horde of pi$$ed off 360 owners come the 25th if they booted up Halo 3 & found Cooking Mama & Master Chief Bake-Off. For the love of!

[Funky Town_TX]

any I think H3's gfx look okay. Now there is a balance with GFX and gameplay that must be hit. There is a time frame that can be spent on each element of a game. Story, gameplay, and features. Great GFX are good but only if the whole game is good. For some reason my fravorite games of all time are not the best in GFX. If halo 3 is a fraction of what Halo2 was then it will be a great game. I have spent about 500 hours playing Halo2. I wonder how many games that I have had that I can say that about.

[JokesOnYou]

ha ha the beta was already described as Halo2 in HD, and everyone who has seen the latest build of Halo3 have said it looks alot better than the Beta,

Halo3 these screenshots show there is a huge difference between Halo2 on the Xbox.

Halo2 xbox:
http://www.xbox360degrees.c...

Halo3 360:
http://www.1up.com/do/slide...

these are some taken off screen from the campaign:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I dont know what more you want Halo3 looks fkn sweet, the only reason some may say different is because they might not like the art style as much as they like the grity, dark realistic type atmosphere, but this is Halo and Bungie has made a helluva game, just suck it up sonykids=

JOY

[SJL480]

I prefer sony over MS but even I can see that this is a case of artistic style vs realism/graphics. I'm not huge on halo but it is a real good game rock on x dudes props were it's due.

@kazzik there's a reason why lair was attacked for sucky controls and heavenly sword for short gameplay and even the folklore DEMO proves that it's at least as good graphics. Being a sony fan I know all about technical experts giving opinions that don't really prove anything until you see it for yourself so just because google can find you an article on it doesn't prove it to be true. It also finds porn when I search for something unrelated.

[Kazzik]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i have no problem with that but i am sick of people lying about things that are public knowledge and able to be looked up on numerous website's and can be easily googled. The Xbox 360 has the SUPERIOR GPU!!!!! the PS3 has the SUPERIOR CPU!!!!! Sheesh go look it up instead of constantly spouting your crap.

Does the PS3 have the advantage when it comes to physic's yes ..yes it does does the PS3 have a faster processor that can make calculation';s faster why yes ..yes it does does the PS3 have a better graphic card than the 360 NO IT DOES NOT!!Anyone can find this info out!! This is why some ps3 games will have fatser load time's better physic's smoother frame rates(barely)but it is not capable of making games that look way better than 360 game's so please stop lying people.

There i just had to get that off my chest.Both machine have a ton of life left in them saying the 360 has seen 90% of its power is ridiculous people have not even used more than one core even though it has 3 it is true that people are using more power of the 360 than they are of the PS3 becuase the PS3 is newer but both machines will go up alot over the next couple years so fanboys on both sides need to give it up!!

[beavis4play]

360 is also limited by DVD9. by fall of '08, disc space will be big limitation for ms.

[Bolts]

Its Master Chief and he wear green armor. There's only so much you can improve graphics wise. Regardless its a Halo game so the fanboys will worthship it no matter what and the haters will hate. There is no room for a rational middleground.

[mesh1]

spammo moo if that so why does ratchet and clank/uncharted to meee look like pile of crap ? plz uncharted looks like a xbox game and ratchet or well looks like the same engine the used on the ps2 if u think im lieing go check the in game vid they suck uncharted/ratchet dont have good graphics don't even compare to halo graphics uncharted has no detail to anything character model i verypoor

[beavis4play]

your posts make you sound like an idiot. if you want to be a 360 fanboy-that's ok, just try to be informed on SOMETHING before posting.

and work on your spelling, typing, and english. your posts read like jibberish.

[GRAMPAGAMER]

Bungie their will be relatively few players who can finish the fight on that difficulty level. (sort of like getting the Master Ninja title on Ninja Gaiden Black)

As for the graphics, I'm extremely pleased and very well satisfied.

seeing a Brute Chopper get blown apart by a plasma grenade and come tumbling down as basic component parts like metallic rain was more than enough for me.

but the clincher is the fact that increasing the difficulty just doesn't make enemies harder to kill (such as using an entire clip to kill one Elite in Halo 1&2)it makes them fight and deploy equipment more intelligently.

this is like battlefied Chess.

where you can use your brains as well as your brawn.

[SDS Overfiend]

Halo's art design is a Futuristic world in a fantasy setting with vibrant colors. Intergalatic scenes with out of the world designs.

Gears is "Destroyed Beauty" which is Citys in Ruin and destroyed towns ETC.

Basically Halo art design was never dark and gritty gears was intended to be the way on some Saving private Ryan type sh1t.

I mean Gears biggest downfall is that the Level of detail is so large that the online Packets have to much info to relay back and forth through server especailly with bad coding techniques.

[JokesOnYou]

I think its obvious Halo3 is already going to be a commercial success, even without the advertising its popularity from the 1st 2 games alone have ensured Halo3 of huge sales, therefore the reviews in Halo3's case are simply going to be a indicator of where Halo3 ranks among the greats, of course gamers will ultimately decide its true place in history as time goes on,(public opinion is powerful) but like it or not the official score's will always be there, because of all the "hype" if Halo3 avg's anything less than a 9 I think "publicly" it will be a dissapointment, from what I've seen I think Halo3 will score high, either way I WON'T DO LIKE SONYKIDS and blame the reviewers and accuse them of biased, say they worked for sony 10 yrs ago, makeup conspiracy theories etc. because Im sure myself and millions of others will love it and play it for quite awhile and thats what really counts.=

JOY

[P1MPDADDY]

All Sony fanboys will be asleep "Waiting Beyond" for thier 4D games. While the rest of us 360 owners will be busy playing Halo 3. We will gladly enjoy our Cartoony unrealistic looking graphics. It sucks to be us having to play Halo 2 in high definition. With 4 player co-op and 11 multiplayer maps that are each customizable. With downloadable content to look forward to in the future. Ya it sure is hard to be an Xbox 360 owner.

Meanwhile I just got disconnected form PSN again in the middle of a Warhawk game. Another network error. Voice Chat is spotty in the game, you either get games that have voice, or no voice. Kind of hard to play capture the Flag or Zones without a means to communicate. Oh and PSN told me I had a friend online. Too bad there was no way to talk to him while I was in my game.

I keep asking myself why I got a PS3 again. Oh thats right its because any new PS3 models wont have full backwards compatability, and from what I have been told by a few trusted insiders, Sony is going to release a 40GB model PS3 similar to the discontinued 20GB SKU. Without Wifi, card media ports, or any backwards compatability hardware. People complain about the original 360's not having HDMI. But at least Microsoft didnt remove hardware when they made new SKU's. In fact they added HDMI to all models that are available now.

So glad I waited 9 months so when Sony ass-raped my wife at least it was for $500.00 instead of $600.00 We got 5 Blu-Ray movies with it too. You guys brag about your "AAA" PS3 first part titles. Heavenly Sword and Lair may have nice graphics, but there is no multiplayer, and no reason to ever play the game again after beating it the first time. No co-op. No replay value. Sounds like 2 rentals for me. How can anyone justify a 6-8 hour game that has no replay value for $60.00??? Heavenly Sword was so damn repetitive my 7 year old son was able to beat it the first time he played it just by button mashing. Instead of asking if he could play it again, he asked me if he could play Ninja Gaiden Sigma instead. Isnt it funny how the best game for the PS3 so far is a recycled Xbox game with HD graphics. I rented Lair, and proceeded to almost turn my 6-axis controller into a spear and launch it at my brand new HDTV Spartan style. Warhawk is the only decent game for my PS3 and the only reason I bought it was to get the Bluetooth headset and to show off my PS3 to my friends. That backfired too. My brother came over to see the new HDTV and PS3. After I showed him everything the PS3 could do, he wants to get a PS3 because of Super-Rub-A-Dub. A f*cking tech demo was the best game my brother tried on the PS3. Warhawk is fun, dont get me wrong, but PSN's lack of features, network issues, and poor voice chat support make it hard for me to play more than an 1-2 hours at a time before I become frustrated.

Is this the "Only True High Definition Videogame Experience" that Sony promised? Because if it is I would like to recommend to anyone who didnt blindly buy into Sonys PS3 Marketing yet to save your $600.00 and either get a 360 if you dont have one or at least "Wait Beyond" till the PS3 is available for $400.00, has more games, and the controller has forcefeedback. PSN and 6-Axis are a joke. But I know you PS3 fanboys will say "Wait" for Home. Ok why??? So I can play Suzi Home Maker on my PS3. I dont know if I will have time, I mean I have to cure cancer, surf the internet, run Linux, watch Blu-Ray movies, view pictures, stream audio and video, remote play with my PSP I dont own yet, etc... Oh and maybe by then there will be an "Exclusive" PS3 game worth owning instead of renting...

I know this much. In 2 days for the small price of $60.00 I will Finish The Fight with a game on my 360 that will last me years not hours. I think the graphics are beautiful. Maybe not on par with Gears of War, Bioshock, COD 4, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Motorstorm, etc... But definetly better than anything last gen. Sounds like a "AAA" must have 360 exclusive game to me. At least one of the 2 consoles I own is used for videogames. I guess my next purchase for the PS3 will be Spiderman 3 on Blu-Ray. Thanks Sony for using the PS3 as a trojan horse for Blu-Ray. You gave me a reason to buy your overrated Blu-Ray player er.. um I mean overhyped videogame console.

Can a PimpDaddy get some Bubbles???

@Fanboi: How's this?

Who's Your Daddy Sony??? errrrrr um HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. :p

On and at the f*cking p*ssy a$$ b!tch who hits disagree on every comment I make and keeps taking my bubbles. Suck it!!! I'll bet it's that Sony Viral Marketer Nasim or one of his aliases. This site needs to make changes. I speak the an honest opinion as an owner of both HD videogame consoles. And this is how I am rewarded???

[FirstknighT]

Give this man some bubbles! He only speaks the truth!

[BLACKJACK VII]

LMAO.........

4 plyr co-op in.......

★★★★ 2 DAYS ★★★★

[Bolts]

Damn that was long and boring. Add some HAHAHAHA to it or something...

[beavis4play]

your rape comments were ridiculous. you have no place being on a game site. you should be thrown out for comments like that.

AND YOU ARE IGNORED.

[kevin1122]

what i dont understand is why you keep pretending you own a ps3.

[solidt12]

I have the PS3 and the Xbox 360 so there is no way I will be bored. I Play alot of Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, and when I play my 360 I play Bioshock. I might get Halo 3 but not that excited about it. How I see it if you are crazy about the Halo story then you will love this game. I could never get into it and I have Halo 2. Now Gears of War an Bioshock is a different story. On day one I will be buying the Sequels.

[BlazinEurasian]

your pic makes anything you say lame. Who takes pics of themselves flexing for a forum pic?.. oh wait.. haters - like you.

[Blitzed]

Does Warhawk scares Xbots? All I ever hear is about Warhawks network issues. I have nevr been disconnecte from warhawk, never experiences any lag what so ever. I just havent had any issues at all, so it seems like FUD to me.

[chanto23]

Everybody is questioning the graphics cause this game is coming out almost 1 year after Gears and you expect Halo 3 to raise the bar even higher and what is disappointing is that you expect them to do that cause Halo is already at the top of online gaming gameplay-wise so the only place they can improve is on the graphics department cause the online stuff is already perfect..for some people this game will feel like a recycled title...even most of the guns are the same...but like someone already said...if it ain't broken why fix it right?

[SuperSaiyan4]

Look like HALO 2 in HD biggest pile of rubbish ever, I have seen the game being played and the graphics are very good. Also looking from the screenshots its FAR superior.

Also put in your HALO 2 disc into the 360 and its upscaled to HD its just a resolution for bettery clarity it does NOT upgrade the polygon count and lighting and textures!!

Now looking at HALO 3 all the characters are far superior, water effects, lighting, textures. Also multi layered sky!

I think these 2 reviewers are just being ignorant morons.

[jazzmanb]

great read pimp daddy..its funny how most non biased gamers all feel the same..hype and talk is nothing,its about the games...i cant wait for mass effect as well as halo3 and orange box..

[ALMIGHTYPS3]

how many mindless low iq idibots live on this website lol.

<gimphaddy,blackcrack,last knight,jizznab>

halo3 review:2.5 >lmfao

25th:master chief be callin u ho hos
26th:u ho hos be callin m$ warranty services inc. lol

Sony gaming console> SIMPLY THE BEST

[Gamer13]

Multiplayer of this game will keep me going for years, im sorry for those gamers who havent got a 360.

[Cartesian3D]

to XboX fanboys who said" HALO will blow everythin away in graphics just look at the screens(they werent ingame) "

and to PS fanboys who said " lol HALO 3 is just HALO 2 in hagher res!! rofl "

both STFU ..

HALO must have steady framerates because its a FPS with big outdoor views and so on...

and Bungie cant make Gears of war quality game with low frame rate.. 360 isn able to run sth like that..

60FPS needed for this game because they didnt want to make a Cinematic game (KILLZONE) , they just want to make 10/10 Multiplayer exprience..

and in my opinion environments and Weapons SUX ..but character models and lighting and colours is awesome..

and sorry for XBOX fans for those FAKE screens that werent from IN GAME.. just look at real screens and compare it.. I will attach FAKE and REAL screens if u want.. FAKE Means non-ingame not non-realtime..

[Martini]

So somebody took these pictures http://www.neogaf.com/forum... off of their TV playing the campaign. Are you telling me these are not in real time ? These shots look amazing IMO.
BTW it's Halo 3 you get it 3 it's a sequel a continue of a previous story - the characters are supposed to look more or less the same/similar as before or else it would not make sense if MC looked like Marcus from gears all of a sudden :)

[felidae]

If this would be on ps3, everybody would say: Meh, last-gen graphics.

Halo 3 will get high scores .. no matter what problems it has.

This game should be the graphical showpiece for the 360 and it should look better than Gears

as a 360/halo fanboy i would be pi$$ed.

[moolox]

How much does a 10 cost nowadays. I presume they get OXM free as they are already paid up members.

How can a halo2 hd get 10, if this is the case its a big insult to gears of war on other who have 9 and 10's. bioshock?

Should it not be a $40 marketplace download.

[SpenserTracy]

I will never believe in reviewers again. If they give Halo 3 a 10 they must have been bribed. Don't they see that they are destroying development of better games with better graphics, gameplay True HD and more.
Microsoft should by this time scrap the 360 and stop the bribing. I really feel sorry for those people who bought a 360 for the main reason to play Halo3, only to discover that the game is not what it should be.

[eLiNeS]

HALO 2 was like HALO 1 wasn't it? The story was continued from HALO 1 just as HALO 3 will be continued from HALO 2. What I have seen so far, it looks amazing and it is the biggest game launch in some time maybe history so just enjoy it and have fun. If it's not your cup a tea, go fly a kite on the freeway.

[moolox]

Was stepford wifes and body snatches filmed in seattle????

[SpenserTracy]

I loved Halo 1, OK. But im not falling for this crap. This game is not all that OK. It's a hyped crap bungie game. Microsoft should get their money back OK.

[Jones Miller]

I´m amazed how PS3 fanboys try to destroy the momentum of the juggernaut Halo 3. It´s useless, resistance is futile and deep down inside all you PS3 FANBOYS ACHE to play Halo 3. No negative posts are gonna change the minds of million of people around the world. Get that thru your thick single-minded skulls.

[felidae]

Dude, trust me ... Resistance is just as good as Halo. Personally i even think that Resistance's controls are a little bit more responsive than Halo 2's, plus i like the setting much more in R:FOM

But what do i say .. it's a PS3 game so of course it's bad ;-)

[kevin1122]

trust me, if you have been playing shooters on pc's you dont want to play halo. Now halo is fun when you have a friend at your house playing tho.

[solidt12]

I bought my Xbox when Halo 2 came out and could never really get into it. I bought my PS3 when Resistance came out and I love it. Everything about it is better its just that HALO came out first and it is on a American owned Console(which I do take Pride in) but I can't put it above every other game. There were times when I enjoyed Halo 2 but I COULDN"T FINISH THE FIGHT. It couldn't hold my interest long enough. Its something about the level design that wasn't working out for me.

[gunnerforlife]

so let me see if this is rite it has the same graphics as halo 2 in HD but still gets a 10 now thats what you call fanboyism.

Edit: lol trust its the other way around u have the wet dreams uve been having them since u heard the exact date it was coming out. counting the days dont ur wife get fed up of changing ur bed covers.

[Jones Miller]

No it´s just that you´re a hater and you´re having wet dreams about Master Chief!

[Meus Renaissance]

No way in hell can get this game be awarded a 10. We all know its no Gears, so if it got a perfect score, then what would you give the game if was a visual masterpiece, 20 out of 10?

Regardless of what the game gets, its reputation will stain that so people will argue "it got rated so highly because its just Halo meh" sadly. And this review of 10/10 will only fuel that mentality.

1up will give it a 100 out of 10, lets wait for IGN and Edge's reviews.

[Daz]

SO if it had awesome visuals and crap gameplay is should get 10/10 lol

SO if it had good visuals with awesome gameplay is should not get 10/10

So if ign and edge give it in the 9s will you say that bs as well?

Im confused lol

i think no games deserves 10/10 but you cant be picky these days.

[Meus Renaissance]

A 10/10 means the game is practically perfect. Controls, gameplay, sound, replayability, value, grahics etc = perfect

From the sounds of it, Halo ticks most of those boxes except the visuals. Lets be honest here, we're all gonna get it but we'd have wanted better visuals or those on the level of Gears as this is the flagship game of the console. So why should it get a perfect score?

If someone gave it a perfect score, then what would they have given a Halo 3 with the visuals that we expected 8 months ago? 20 out of 10? These visuals are good enough but they're not amazing at all. But people will rate this game, not because of the content, but because it says "Halo". No way can it get perfect scores.

If it did, people would call BS and they'd be right.

[Daz]

They might gave a perfect is score because of the gameplay and the endless hours of replay value and not being to picky? kind revier?

i know where you coming from you are your right but no games devers 10/10 but again you cant be picky theses days.

I never relie on a revier anyway like most people because thats there opinion not mine.

NIce and constructive m8 your derserve a bubble :)

[Meus Renaissance]

I think 10/10 scores are very very rare, or they should be because of exactly what they imply; a masterpiece of a game for that genre.

Halo 3 could be perfect in every way but its visuals are not going to impress the industry, so if everything else is a 9 or 10, and the graphics not, you cant really say "lets not be picky" and just give a 10 just because..

A 9.5 itself could fit it well, so the question is, if we aren't being picky, then why would some suggest a 10 instead of 9.5 or a 9? One of the reasons why is because there is a mentality that if a flagship game is great, it should be rated 10 regardless. Ok, fair enough but this means - by ratings - the vast majority may not be compare to this game. In other words, Halo 3 could be called the greatest game of this generation simply because of this rating and its popularity, whereas you and I know that it doesn't really deserve a 10. It may undeservedly be placed at a greater level than another game that is better. So its not fair in that way and that's why I dont think it should get a 10 but I dont really mind to be honest

So its a case of reviewing games without bias and more importantly, honestly.

+bubbles for you too

[Saint Sony]

This only shows that graphics won't make a good game. It's the game itself.

PS3 is still crap, good GFX won't change a thing.

[Meus Renaissance]

I agree, but lack of graphics makes a perfect game? That's what we're debating here. Can a game, that is fun to play etc, but that does not have great visuals like we'd expect, justify a perfect score this gen?

I think with Bioshock getting 10/10, people are giving out these scores way too easily IMO. Not many games this entire generation have been worth a 9, only a handful but 10?! A few people would say yes, but what counts is what the majority thinks.

If PS3 owners and 360 owners could agree, together, that one of their exclusives was a 10/10 game then you KNOW that game is worth that score.

[Ahmadinejad]

I do own a copy of the game and i shoudl say this claim is absolute bullsh*t, im on "the road" level and soem intresting crap is happenin but the lighting in this game is absoultely amazing, i would go as far as saying the best lighting system ever made ina game. this claim is so fanboyish and out of context.

in this one, its not even the gfx, its the sheer amount of action happening on the screen without any framrate hiccups. the engine is absolutely amazing.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

does it natively run at 1080p as posted on xbox.com?

[edit] thats sounds good, thanks, bubble for taking the time. my pre-order is almost home.

[Ahmadinejad]

Im running at 1376 x 768 and that sthe higesht my monitor can handle but whover made taht statement must of either not played halo 2 or forgot how sh*tty it looks now. i was not truly mazed at first level and second level didnt look too ecent although kept the huge numebr of bodeis on screen but when u get to the third level in the savannah, the lightin is breathtaking. same as the levels that persue, im on the fifth one nw so gotta see how it will end. this game is all i wanted it to be. More action than all rambo films rapped into one

[snoopgg]

Although I would love Halo 3 to be graphics candy superstar, sorry but this isn't happenning in Halo 3. Maybe Halo 4 will step the graphics up. I'm sure the game will be just as fun though.

[snoopgg]

a flame. Enough said you sad little flameboy.............

[Saint Sony]

Thank you for your opinion. Appreciated.

[Meus Renaissance]

Give it a 9 out of 10

[Smoove808]

To me Halo must keep an art form, a style and feel in order to stay true to what we have all loved from the beginning. I see where people are coming from when the H2 and H3 comparison is used, but I think they are missing the point. Think of your comic book heros. The art improves but always stays true to its form...... From what I have seen the graphics are tremendous. Bigger, polished, crisp, clean, vibrant, colorful and smooth. I know that Gears was spectacular graphically, but come on, its Halo. Halo really is a uniqueness on its own. Maybe not above and beyond to many skeptics, but it is certainly "something" great of our time(I didn't say the greatest). Nobody can take that away. StarWars ain't for everyone tho!

[Daz]

good post :)

[R M Spender]

10 just means its better than any ps3 game out. i feel really bad for anyone that bought a ps3 so far. i might get one in the future but i can wait.

[rowdy 1]

It has a little bit better graphics, and the gameplay is the same meaning it's good. Other than that it's just Halo. YOu'll see. it's 8.5/10

[Daz]

i could say that alot with others games as well.

[Ahmadinejad]

Im playing it right no, its defintily over 9/10. dont believe all this crap abotu gfx being bad, play it then ull see. it ahs its ups and down but when is on the high its the best xbox has produced so far. i can safely say that there has been no game before this that has so much crap happening on the screen at the same time and remains solid framerate. all i can say is dont believe the hype and wait for release. its a masterpiece to say the least. its f*ckign ahrd though, really really hard.

[Ahmadinejad]

Another great out of contects post on this website, bravo, bravo. all i can say is go and play the god damn game before hating on it. its bad that this world is filled with so many haters that will blindly dismiss something this amazing.

[reaperxciv]

not a problem, it's still going to be a AAA title as promised

[TheXgamerLive]

The first has been removed and listed as invalid and the second is on a fanboys gamer blog, not valid at all.

This was posted based on stupidity as we've already seen how incredible Halo3 looks and plays, and it's nothing like Halo2 in comparison so as I already said the made up reviews from earlier as just twisted sony fanboys, nothing more.

Dusty, please remove this post and will someone PLEASE start reviewing the validity of the post.

I'm clicking on "report" of this post at the top of the page.

[arcadegoal]

ill make up my own mind about the graphics when ive played it but i have to say from screen shots ive seen i thought it would look beter than it douse.but if the game is fun to play then who cares . grate graphics dont always make a grate game.

[secur1ty911]

How about something more vibrant, more interesting, more once again like (HS) movie like experience, more art, more thinking, more realistic like scenarios, more down to earth AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MORE MATURE-- what I'm talking about is.......

UNCHARTED
DRAKE'S FORTUNE

ONLY FOR THE PLAYSTATION 3
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH 2007

[Smoove808]

Wow!....hahah......you are bold sir! Good 'ole Drakey huh? Have fun;)

[solidt12]

Very Bias review. No scrutiny at all for Halo 3 but if this was a PS3 game I know it would of turned out different. Still waiting on the first REAL review without bias. How can you say its a 10, but graphics looks just like Halo 3? I bet the game is great but are you trying to say in your review that original Xbox graphics are acceptable on the Xbox 360. There should be some points taking off for graphics and if no reviewers do that then they are full of Sh!t.

[moolox]

My biggest worry is why all the blanket bans on reviews until after it is too late to cancel a preorder.?? (play ect shipped friday)

Is it good or have a wasted my money, if it is that good why like most other games is it not out for review before release or do we have another LAIR!!!. Imagine if factor 5 had done this and you had read those review while it was in the post.

[solidt12]

The one thing I do have to give Bungie props on is the 4 player co-op mode. I don't remember ever seeing that in a game, But the graphics is just more Halo. Well at least the Cut Scenes look alot better.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

personally i think people are scared to give HALO bad(less than amazing)reviews.

why?

cause MOST HALO FANS are borderline INSANE.

[sak500]

Even with Halo2 in HD graphics its score will beat all the super hyped up BDray utilizing 10GB sounds, 20gb Graphics, 10gb AI games of ps3. I think they deliberately kept the level of gfx at this level to maintain good multiplayer gaming.

[moolox]

I could have just bought Halo 2 then for £10 and put it through a upscaler.

Are you suggesting the graphics are down to gameplay as the 360 could not handle it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Hmm suspect, I'm not going to make a big comment because when all this come back as not being said, I'm not going to be standing there with my foot in my mouth. But you "droids" go right ahead and talk because this is just going to be ammo to be used against you in future post.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Does anyone honestly think this will look last gen? Go to http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g... and look at the detail in Master Chief and look at the water in the background. This game is going to look awesome!

If I have to be a critic, the texture in the up close rock that Master Chief is standing on could be improved, but then again games are at not at the point where everything looks totally real yet. We're close, but not there yet. All in all, expect a great AAA Halo 3 experience! And if Halo isn't your thing, no problem, there's plenty of other great titles coming out in the next 2 months and beyond.

[zonetrooper5]

Most of the reviews for Halo 3 should start coming out at around 8pm GMT time I think, thats from Teamxbox, IGN, gamespot etc.

[Daz]

When tonight?

[Mr Blings]

And the graphics are slick as sh*t. from the menu to the loading screen its great... not able to play online accept for co op at this point, but all i can say is I've only played a mission and it is awsome

[ShiftyLookingCow]

its good that the 200th comment is an informative one

[ShiftyLookingCow]

this month's hottest post are a bunch of premature reviews.

[dale1]

no multi player on this then is that right

[Mr Blings]

there is a huge multi player aspect, but accept for co op can't use it until it is officially released

[solidt12]

Bioshock, Oblivion, and Gears of War are the Only three games I have played on the 360 that deserve a 10/10. Halo 3 was given a 10/10 and was not deserved.

[Mattey]

the game doesnt come out till tuesday, and you dont think it deserves a 10/10, you should play a game before you review it, that goes for anyone eles who says,"it should be 8.5/10". MGS4 is 8/10 at best...

[Cornstalker]

Talk about a let down in the graphics dept. This is not even in same league as Gears or Bioshock, or HS or LAIR. I'm sure the gameplay is there, but the graphics are not next gen. They almost got it right. Halo 2 in HD is true

[zonetrooper5]

Yeh, the reviews are coming around 12 noon PST time which is something like 8pm GMT time I heard and yes it should be today.

[Daxx]

A game's graphics are only as good as a critic's opinion.

[Mars Attacker]

Yeah Lair is a much better game because it uses motion control, has great PS3 graphics and is so big it needs a Blu-ray to fit. Get a life PS3 fanboys. The Halo 3 has AWESOME graphics, but the gameplay and story are what makes it so special.

This is the biggest entertainment release in history. The kind of event that can single handedly swing the war. A year ago Sony was pimping Lair and HS like they were going to be the next coming of Halo. HS is pretty good and Lair is a joke.

Truth hurts doesn't it. Halo 3 is a great game, despite what the folks who never plan to buy or play it say. This Christmas was supposed to be owned by the PS3, but it seems that the PS3 is the one that is pwned now.

There's always next Christmas - right? Pwned!!

[Morph1ous]

Are you kidding me story...halo 2's story was a effing joke. Multiplayer was good but wtf happend with the storyline. I think bungie is still trying to figure that one out. Its known for its multiplayer not the story.

[Infernus]

Mars I prefer variety in the gaming industry. If a console has to rely on one type of game (Shooters) and in particular one game (Halo 3), then I'm sorry but that console is a one trick pony in my book.

At least Heavenly Sword and Lair have offered something new for the gamers. The 360 is living in the FPS and 3rdPS world and it's a world I'd rather not get stuck into. I've played enough shooters thanks, I want variety and the PS3 is the only console that offers gamers that. Nintendo are stuck pushing their familiar characters that they've been using for years, Microsoft are trying to win the 'war' with one type of game, Sony have always offered variety and that's what they're doing once again with the PS3.

Little Big Planet, the PSN games, HS, Uncharted, R&C (just to name a few) are all games that offer something different, are from different genres, and therefore provide the console owner with a more varied selection of games.

Halo 3 is set to be a great game, and congratulations Bungie on your success with the series, but seriously the 360 hasn't won the console war, the Wii and the PS3 haven't even been out for a year, the war has only just begun...

[Mars Attacker]

Funny Infernus. I like a variety of games too. PGR4, Bioshock, Ace Combat 6 (oh that has to hurt), Halo 3 and Sega Rally to name a few.

These console wars don't generally drag on very long. Once one console emerges as a clear leader, third party developers jump on the bandwagon. This fall the 360 has emerged as the clear leader. The 360 is outselling the PS3 2-to-1 and it will be 3-to-1 when the next totals come out. The gap is only getting bigger.

Better games = better hardware and software sales,
better sales = better developer support,
better developer support = Even better games!

Poor games = poor sales
poor sales = hind teet from developers
poor developers = even more poor games

The Wii is a piece of cr4p, so it doesn't count.

[misterssippi]

Bungie has a nondisclosure agreement with all media outlets, stating that reviews shan't be released until later today. I doubt that OXM, owned by Microsoft, would break the agreement. Also, I went to the so called links provided, and kept getting error messages. Seems rather fishy to me.

[moolox]

Why is there an agreement and why are the gaming press sticking to it. Sony have proved the press can easily turn on you.

I am sure Nicole Kidman has just made a movie based on this.

[misterssippi]

They are sticking to it becuz its gonna sell magazines like gangbusters when the reviews go out. The only review they let leak was Famitsu, but thats becuz its the week of the Tokyo Game Show, and they gave the game a great review and said the graphics were amazing. It created huge buzz in Japan, and kept the Halo booth full on the show floor.

[testerg35]

Halo's graphics look great in the outdoor scenes and just ok in the indoor scenes, but then again they kept with the art style of the first two. If they would have changed it, it wouldn't be Halo. It would be like if they designed Gears II all brightly colored... it wouldn't be Gears.

BTW... the AI is really good in this game.

[NextGen24Gamer]

1 of them has a standard tv and he said the graphics are notibly better than Halo 2. He said there is a lot going on and its smoother and more detailed. He said he would give it a 9.5. He said that he beat it on normal mode in 11 hours but hasn't played multiplayer yet.

The other two have hd tvs and said that Halo 3 is much much better looking than Halo 2 and rated it perfect 10's. One beat it in 12 hours and the other said he beat it in 10 hours.

The one thing I get from chatting with those three is that Halo 3 is clearly the best version of Halo yet. Every aspect of the game is improved upon. And all this is soley talking about the single player. No one has had a chance to play multiplayer yet. They love the save game feature. The fact that not only can you save the game. But you can zoom out of the action while its playing and look anywhere you want to on the map. You can send it to friends and you can take pictures and save the pictures. Think about that. You can pause, zoom out, move the camera around, then take pictures or figure out strategies.

Halo 3 is Combat Evolved to a level never seen on any first person shooters. WOW

[Infernus]

Here we go again guys, Halo's name preceeds it and as much as I want it to be congratulated for it's in-game merits rather than because it's 'supposed to be the best game ever' I seriouly doubt I'll read or hear anything new about this game's features other than "It looks kinda good, sounds fantastic and the MP is a thing of greatness", that'll be the overused line for the coming few weeks.

10/10 yet they say it looks like a HD version of Halo 2... If it doesn't look perfect then don't give it a perfect score you idiots! If Halo 3 has an awesome MP which it's set to, then 10/10 is welcomed for the MP, but giving the whole experience a 10 even though they just said it's not as good looking as other games surely leaves the review with zero credibility?

I apologise if I sound a little heated but the review system as a whole needs to be looked into. We need standards as marking points, like 5.1 or 7.1 as sound markers and a game not being given more than an 8 if it lacks 7.1 surround sound seems to make sense. If it has directional sound effects, 7.1 and a great soundtrack it could thenget a 9 or 10. Graphically we could have the same thing.

Before anyone replies with 'You're a complete fanboy!', I can assure you I'm not. Just take a look at Bioshock against Heavenly Sword. Both look and sound fantastic, both are short games, yet Bioshock gets the 10's and HS gets the 9's. Both are great games, yet in my opinion both games should get 9/10. They have the same things wrong with them, they're both short and the replayability is questionable (Bioshock lacks MP; Heavenly Sword is a linear-based story game) so Bioshock should never have been given 10's because of what it lacks.

Bioshock's set of reviews just ruined the rest of this year's reviews because everyone can say 'It got a 9/10? It's not better than Bioshock' when in actuality it could be.

Take Halo 3 for example, is it better than Bioshock? If so, it should get an 11/10 surely. But that's impossible isn't it... See what I mean. The review system has been ballsed up big time for this year.

[BlazinEurasian]

they should review single player and multiplayer seperately, so that a game can't be reviewed more critically for missing one or the other.

Multiplayer games always get substantially higher scores.

[Testo]

"31 - These scores are testaments that
Graphic does not make a game great.

Gameplay > Graphic. "

I agree but it should NOT have gotten a 10/10 if the they didn't like the graphics.

10/10 implies.... Perfect!

[NextGen24Gamer]

Heavenly Swords reveiw scores have been in the 8's on average. And I have played both games and Bio Shock is a clear AAA title...while Heavonly Sword is a Solid Good Game. Heavonly sword is much shoter of an experience than Bio Shock. You can't beat Bio Shock in 6 hours. No way possible. And the graphics and sound is better on Bio Shock than Heavonly sword.

Bio Shock is clerly one of the best experiences you can play on any patform....alone with Gears of War. Which is why both games average in the mid 9's....OH, and Oblivion too....Heavonly Sword is not on the level of those 3 titles. Which is why its average review scores of 8 is right.

[skynidas]

halo 3 sucks

[Daxx]

I see that you put a lot thought into that comment.

/major sarcasm

[Mattey]

i cant stand reading peoples comments anymore, this is retarded. some comments get repeated so many times, and there all so g@y. the graphics ARE next gen. there is absolutly no way in hell this could have been done on xbox or ps2 only on a 360 and ps3 or high end pc. halo is going to be a great game, even if a majority of reviewers give a 8/10 that still means it is great game. all you halo haters have to go to a mass effect fan site for the next few days until all the hype is over for halo 3, because all your going to see on the xbox page for n4g.com are halo related news articles, thats just the way its going to be.

[Daxx]

^TR00F!^

[Relientk77]

first of all wow alot of comments

"the graphics of Halo 3 look similar to Halo 2 but just in HD"

Heh more of that Halo 2.5 stuff

even if it is "HALO 2.5" its still gonna sell a FVKIN SH!TLOAD so it really doesnt matter

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Having played a good amount of the Campaign last night and this morning... i disagree with the Halo 2 in HD... IMO the cut scenes rival that of Gears of War (though they're not better) Halo 3 looks great... and the HDR lighting in this game is some of the best I've ever seen on a console game to date

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

keep trying "droids", jealousy should be a crime.

[PS360PCROCKS]

??ok?? great post jackass...way to take a review and make it completely biased for your pleasure.

[Says you]

This game isn't even a big deal people are practically getting excited about a game that has the same things in the 2nd game like wow! either people are so blind sighted that this game is actually Halo 3.2 and they just don't want to admit that it is considering the animation and the blood are still the same and the play are still the same as well?.

[Says you]

This game isn't even a big deal people are practically getting excited about a game that has the same things in the 2nd game like wow! either people are so blind sighted that this game is actually Halo 3.2 and they just don't want to admit that it is considering the animation and the blood are still the same and the play are still the same as well?.

[u got owned]

My little brother bought it last night. Personally i think the game its great but not 10/10 more like a 9.2/10. I don't see anything wrong with the game, its fun, great multiplayer, great Campaign, the only complain i have and this is why i don't think it deserves a 10/10 its the graphics.

I saw a lots and lots of jaggies in the campaign not that many in the multiplayer and at times it did look like Halo 2 in HD.