The third episode of Gaming Today's File-N-Forget podcast broaches the question of when is too much hype a negative to a game's potential success?
Host Ron Whitaker and guest host Shawn Sines discuss the Bioshock launch. Why Halo 3 is destined to fail and how games like Psychonauts, Crysis and GTA IV figure into the hype machine that is video game marketing and news sites.
Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."
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Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.
I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing
1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.
It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!
I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.
Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.
Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.
Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:
- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2
I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.
Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.
I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.
I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.
But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.
Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.
2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.
It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5
Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.
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Not every Halo game has been a banger, but the franchise still has a raft of the greatest games of all time.
Infinite is a dumpster fire and as much as I like ODST, in no universe it ranks above Halo 2. This list is trash.
Best to worst: Halo 3, Halo 2, Halo Reach, Halo CE, Halo 4, Halo ODST, Halo Infinite, Halo 5.
ok i will listen to it
i just hope it is good
most of the games they mentioned are hype because they earned it from past versions, so they create an expectation in consumers that they will again experience the same level of enjoyment. (is that wrong?)
and why do they comparing console games to pc games?, as if pc games are the pinnacle of the gaming experience?,.. it's just plain wrong.
these critics have become so negative and jaded, I fear they will never be pleased,..may have completely lost touch with what fun actually is.
I challenge both of the speakers to do one thing that would be worthy of some hype, whether it's an excellent podcast commentary/review or an unforgetable sunday morning breakfast.
@Grampagamer: I'm sad to hear you think I've become negative or jaded. Honestly the discussion was centered about the artificial expectations that the self perpetuating hype machine creates. I don't think we implied that PCs are the penultimate gaming experience, but I respect your opinion.
I think the gist was that gaming news sites and gamers make the hype. Yes some of it is based on the prior performance of a title and its sequels but its like that one pop song they play over and over and over again on the radio. No matter how catchy or good it might have been when you first heard it, after the 2 billionth airing you are praying it'd just go away. I guess that is to some extent how I feel about rabid game hype.
Thanks for Listening.
Shawn
I can agree the developers trott out their games to media sites (magazine, web, tv, etc) out of a mutual necessity for both parties
And the news sites pump up the games so called selling points and atributes that supposedly make the games a must have, (need I mention Spiderman or the Matrix).
Even though they know from their limited but experienced perspective that the games are a steaming pile poo.
Then on review night they butcher the game like an overweight hog.
Betraying those who depend on their reports,.. who then purchase the game anyway, just to find out the bad review were spot on.
and in less than 6 weeks the game can be found in the bargin bin for less than 50% of the asking price.
so in that regard I agree with the premise of your podcast.
but a game like Halo (I mean the 6 year old original) that I can still pick up anytime and still get a unique visceral challenging experience anytime I play.
(and no,.. microsoft doesn't pay me a dimes)
...To say that the next gen iteration of a game like that,
.. That is being created on an order of magnitude that eclipes the original by at least 100 to 200%(by my reconning) doesn't evoke some desire in you to play all of it's innovative features (compared to the original),.. is ludacris and shows either an underestimation of who your listeners are or either a lack of understanding of what the game promises to deliver.
that being said,..I enjoy listening to your podcasts because for the most part I think it's packed with content, passion and usually a balance and unique perspective.
I apreciate your measured and considerate response. peace.