Sony Japan Files Patent For New Generation Console To Previous Generation Console Adapter

Siliconera: "Most PlayStation 3s are not backwards compatible, but Sony may be investigating an external adapter to act as a bridge. Japanese message boards are buzzing about a patent filed by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan for a new generation to previous generation console adapter."

[iamnsuperman]

Interesting..... hope something like this comes out but I can bet if it does it will cost a bit

[gtamike]

Put tekken tag in 60GB PS3 and see what happens ;)

[UltraNova]

Is it me or only Sony's patent applications get leaked? Like always!?

[Matthew94]

patents arent secret... ^^^

[ThatArtGuy]

Microsoft's and Nintendo's patents are reported too. The only thing is that Nintendo's usually don't have too many and MS patents everything under the sun so most of them aren't newsworthy.

[UltraNova]

I didn't mean secret by saying leaked ^^^ They strike me as odd when they get 'revealed' as if they were secret ;)

[Wobbuffet]

Sony patents are always jumped on by the critical media.

[Prototype]

@gtamike

Tekken Tag Tournament arcade version :D

[rockleex]

I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

I used to mod my PS2 just to play different region games like the Naruto games that take YEARS to come to America.

[EvilBlackCat]

"Is it me or only Sony's patent applications get leaked? Like always!?"

NO not just Sony patents. MS and Nintendo too but here Sony patents get posted more and guess why.

[Solid_Snakeps3]

AWESOME! I can finally play some MGS 2 and 3... cant wait to see how this turns out

[superrey19]

As long as it's small, aesthetically pleasing and costs less than a current PS2 (<$100) I'm all for it.

[gameraxis]

that means they won't be sticking with blueray, and maybe moving to a faster drive... which kinda sucks... they should just make 2 lasers to read blueray or the faster spinning blueray or whatever, anything but an adapter... its because they want the money for it... sad

[Liquid_Ocelot]

A 'wtf!?' brother.. No brother, you deserve the whole 'What the fuck!?'

On topic:
I hope this little thing is inexpensive and hopefully this will let those of us who want to revive those gems that we played 'back-in-the-day'(c 9;mon, they're not that old :).)

And for those who always wonder 'why would one want to play PS2/Xbox/GameCube games on their PS3s/360s/Wiis?' Well.. simply, some of us would like to beat our Metal Gear Solids/Halos/Zeldas from the very first one(no matter if it goes way back to 'nintendo' days) 'till the very last one that came out. At least, that's how I feel.. It'd be nice if Xbox 360 got one of these aswell, to fully support their past gems too. :)

Ps: sorry for the wall-of-text and please excuse my english.

[Xwow2008]

PS2 to PS3 adapter to run ps2 games on ps3!!....that's just stupid IF its happen.
EDIT: software emulation is the way to go.

[UltimateIdiot911]

Software emulation is limited and will always be inferior to having the proper hardware. So it's not stupid at all if this happens, in fact, I can see a lot of people buying it.

I for one gave my PS2 away but still want to play some PS2 games but don't want to buy another PS2 for it. If it has upscaling and cheaper, I definitely will get it.

This also might extend PS2's life, not the PS2 itself but the game sales. Also you don't have to worry if a game works or not if it's through hardware. So I don't see how this is a bad thing.

[evrfighter]

The way I'm seeing this. You need both consoles.

Why would you need an adapter when you can hook the other one up? It's not like you need to unplug the ps3 to play the ps2 to begin with...

[fr0sty]

The adapter is likely going to be a heck of a lot smaller. a device like this could work like this... PS3 reads ps2 disc, sends it to (much smaller than a ps2 slim) device which then loads the data from the disc onto some internal memory. being that this device is specially built to play ps2 games, it doesn't necessarily have to BE a PS2 in a box. therefore it could theoretically take those games and allow you to do things like AA and higher resolutions as well. after rendering the image, it could send the frame back to the ps3 for display on your TV.

i'm no expert in the field, so i'm not sure if USB would impose latency restrictions on the idea, but it seems like you could build some really cool features into a device like this that would make it better than just owning a ps2, especially if it's a much smaller device.

[asyouburn]

on the ps3 kinda sucks. i like how it upscales and all, and its cool to be able to play some ps2 stuff on ps3, but if this device allows me to staay logged in while i play them, or give me general xmb support, then hooray! make it! ill buy it.

[tplarkin7]

Xbox 360 plays original Xbox games at 720p. NeoRage had options to tweak the look of sprite based games.

Of course, some arcades had physical hardware, like Q'Berts "thunk" sound made with a pinball coil, where software emulation can't replicate.

[Theonik]

That is very true but Software emulation has its advantages in exchange for that accuracy and performance. One of them is that it can do things that the original hardware was not capable of doing. Hopefully this dongle increases the native res of the game although i doubt given Sony's policy of selling PS2 games with increased native Res for the PS3.
I really hope that they add a memory card reader on it too.

[ChickeyCantor]

"Software emulation is limited"

Actually it can offer more since you can enhance the initial "hardware" capabilities.
Unless you mean the power to run emulation i could say you have a point, but if they make good use of the Cell, why not?

I mean looking at lots of Emulators they offer AA for example, I do not remember the PS1 or N64 have such feature.

[ChronoJoe]

Then why can I play Windwaker on my laptop, in HD, at 120FPS. Ya, it's so 'inferior'.

Of course it'll use more system resources to emulate, than run the games off of appropriate hardware, but if you have the resources software based emulation definitely has the potential to run the game at greater quality than was ever originally intended.

[ChickeyCantor]

LOL at disagrees.

[nsnsmj]

It says it has a dvd encoder/emulator (not drive), a sound processor, graphic processor/ and its own processor. So I assume you would put the disc in the ps3 and it decodes it or whatever to work with the adapter. I also assume it will upscale it and have better audio for ps2 games because of the built in processors.

I don't need it since I have a BC 80gb ps3, but if I didn't, I would definitely consider buying it. Yes, I still play ps2 games every once in a while.

[jack_burt0n]

If it upscales well and offers 100%, for people with massive ps2 disc libraries its a great way to end the ps2 lifecycle.

ps2 emulation is tough whatever way you look at it.

[Ocelot525]

upscale? no we want native resolution improvement of PS2 games, like what the PSX2 emulator offers

and also AA and AF

[PirosThe4th]

forget about that...
then there is no point in doing most of the HD remakes...
Hell FinalFantasyX on pcsx2 looks incredibly great on fullhd. I just couldn't believe that the game it self looks that good.
If sony goes ahead with what u want... then there is no point of most of the remakes cash-ins.

I will take the remakes anytime though with true widescreen support, better textures and trophies XD

[UltimateIdiot911]

This is something I might buy to play some of the older games with upscale but only if it's cheaper than a PS2.

[NateNater]

I'm pretty sure this would sell a lot if released. Backwards compatibility is one of the most wanted PS3 features. I'm just glad I adopted early and got a nice 60 gig thats loaded with everything :)

[princejb134]

i dont think is really one of the most wanted features like that
i bought a ps3 for ps3 games, even though their are alot of great ps2 games to replay
is just a feature people like to complain about cause the first models had the emulation and now they dont

i prefer hd collections in my opinion

[testerg35]

Watch it be $99. Now that would suck.

[callahan09]

It would be completely pointless to release an adaptor as expensive as the console its emulating. It wouldn't make any sense, there's no way they'd do it. Not to mention that the 80GB PS3's from 2007 already did a good job of emulating half the hardware in the PS2. They would probably just stick the other chip in this adapter and let the PS3 still emulate the same parts that are emulated in software on the 80GB units. That way you save on the cost of one chip, you save on controller ports, you save on the disc drive. You cut your costs down a ton from the cost of manufacturing the whole console. This thing will be 50 bucks or less.

[MachinaMaw]

If that's true I'm buying this for sure. I got a huge PS2 collection that I wanna play again.

[N2G]

i already have a slim Ps2 in fact i have 2 so i dont think this thing is for me. :(

[Gue1]

I don't know if you know but most 60GB PS3 have basically a built-in PS2... Another thing is that the PS2 slims with the latest bios has lots of problems playing early PS2 and even more problems emulating PS1 games. On top of that most third party components like controllers or memory cards doesn't even work cus Sony blocked them to make you buy only original peripherals.

[a08andan]

Sweet. Any gamer should be happy with backwards-compatibility. This is very interesting. I think that this might be a part of the ps4 and Sony offering backwards compatibility with the entire Playstation library. Sounds sweet! Hopefully something like this will be available for Xbox's and Nintendo consoles too so we can all enjoy the classics we love over and over again :)

[Zinc]

Didn't they already have a chip in their PS3's to do this at one time? Oh, right... profit.

[i_am_interested]

except people cared more about price than bc which proved true when the new ps3 debuted last august

its just a select few that feel theyre entitled to bc even at a lower price unlike some of us who had to pay for it

[lightningsax]

This! Is! For-Profit Business!!! (kicks a copy of Daikatana in a pit)

It doesn't matter who cares about what. The price went down because the tech was cheaper and easier to manufacture. That's what happens.

Now, as for what's going on in this patent and where it's going to go from here, who knows? We saw a software emulation patent that obviously didn't work out about a year ago. Maybe it's all just R&D and we need to be patient until actual products are (being leaked)announced.

[Simco876]

Maybe this is an adapter to the PS3 --> PS4

Sounds better than just a PS2 adapter, why would they build one of these anyways?
They want your money when they start throwing PS2 games on the PSN!

[Newtype]

Cool, they are preventing the BC problem they had with the PS2.

[maxcer]

lol there was never a problem with BC itself they just decided to take it out to cut costs on the PS3 and be able to sell more ps2slims

[Myst]

Own my PS2 still yet it sits in my closet if this device does indeed come about I may very well get this.

[NabikiTendo]

i really want to start playing some old ps2 games like ffx and x-2(yeah i loved that game so what lol). also dq8 my god i was in love with that rpg also.please sony bring this to life and you will sell even more hardware and software.

[sayonara89]

"Most PlayStation 3s are not backwards compatible"

With PS2, every PS3 can play PSX games, people are constantly forgetting about this.

PS3 can't emulate PS2 by software, so there is no hope for PS2 emulator in FW update.

[tiamat5]

Yes Zinc, it had nothing to do with the consistent whining of ungrateful gamers claiming PS3 should be cheaper. Nope. Sony's fault as per usual.They should put that as a new slogan. 'It's all our fault'.

[Zinc]

It seems to me that the cost of the chip from hardware that is really a decade+ old should not be much of a factor in the overall scheme of things. They were perfectly willing to lose 100's of dollars per unit in the beginning, so I don't see the issue.

I'm not really blaming Sony. I'm simply pointing something out. I don't agree with those kind of business practices. Just like I don't agree with Microsoft charging people 50 and now 60 dollars for online access.

They removed the backwards compatibility from their units to make more money, not save the consumer money. They have been selling the PS2 still up to this point and the PS2 is much more profitable than the PS3, at this point.

Some people need to get it through their heads that a company is a company, not some guy you think is fun to hang out with, who will help you out of a tough spot... it's a company that doesn't care about you. The only thing they care about like most companies that are that large, is how can they make you, the consumer think they care about you, to engender brand loyalty. Which, if these and many other comment sections are any indication, they have done their job and then some.

People need to look at the bigger picture or else they just let the current bring them to the waterfall with a smile on their face the whole time.

[jack_burt0n]

@zinc
when it comes to profit on hardware sony buck the trend big time.

MS and Nintendos mark up is insane apart from kinect.

ur stealth troll is worthless.

[Zinc]

I fail to see how anything I said is a 'steath troll'. I personally don't troll. Look at my history. If you think I troll, than your definition of trolling is unreasonable.

I will say again Sony is like any other company and no better or worse. You can piss all over what I said with you 'stealth troll' comment, but it doesn't change anything.

I stand by what I said.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Your idea of how business works is 101% CORRECT!

[UltimateIdiot911]

They removed the PS2 for 2 reasons. Learn to look from it at more than one angle and perspective. Nothing is black and white.

Yes, they profit more if PS2 is removed but they also want to make the PS3 at a more affordable price point for consumers. So many gamers were complaining about the price point and what is Sony suppose to do?

They've only recently began making profit per console sold so up until recently, it's been guess what, A LOST. Sony started off selling the PS3 at over $400 lost because almost no one would have wanted a $1000 PS3.

No one is treating Sony as a friend who will be there from thick to thin. Maybe fanboys but that works on both side. But, it doesn't mean it always has to be consumer vs. corporation which is equally bad as fanboys bending over to all the company's want. I didn't need BC but would like it, but I rather Sony dropped the price so I can afford the PS3 as soon as I can. That happen, I choose the non BC 40 GB over the 80 BC model because it was cheaper. Now I have enough money to buy BC and the choice to get it. It's more beneficial to me than had they kept BC and kept the PS3 at a higher price point.

Right now, you're no better than most troll because you are being arrogant even if you have a small (one sided) point. When you fail to see things more objectively, it's harder for others to respect your opinion.

[Zinc]

ULTIMATE_REVENGE - I'm not being arrogant, I'm stating an obvious point. I'm saying Sony is no better or worse than any other company. How is that being arrogant? What, because I have a viewpoint that is different than someone else's? It's like you can say anything now and be labeled a troll, as long as whomever is reading or hearing it doesn't agree.

It's not a myopic view. But, it is a black and white issue. It's about making money. Even if it leads to them being able to lower the price of their hardware, it also allows for a wider market share. It's strategic thinking.

They removed a chip that cost $27.00 per unit (in 2007). They then removed the graphic synthesizer from later models, as well. That made emulation impossible to do in a manner that would fit their QA standards. (That seems suspect to me)

I will go so far as to say this can benefit certain customers who don't really care about BC. They are thinking about offering an option to people using this device, which is fine. But, it will end up making them more money in the long run, which is their ultimate goal and there is nothing wrong with that. (though the repercussions to the end consumer can be negative and positive at the same time)

Really, I'm mainly put off by blind faith reactions to what people post on forums and comments.

It's interesting that now more than ever people are disgusted with corporate greed and profits, but some of these same people will defend any move a company makes, because it's 'their company of choice'.

I'm not saying this is you by-the-way.

I just like to look at things from a eyes-wide-open stance.

I'm at a loss for how you can say I'm being no better than most trolls. I've been on the web for a long time and have seen a lot of crap. If what I'm saying makes me a troll, than everybody is a troll. Which is exactly why that kind of thinking is out of control.

[Spydr07]

@Zinc
+Bubbs

I agree. No company in the world will do something (outside of charity donations--tho one could argue they stand to benefit from that, as well) that doesn't benefit them and, ultimately, make them more money.

Sony, MS, Nintendo...they're all the same, in the end. They want your money. Hell, I'm not a business but I want your money, too! :P

[pork_chop_express]

@Zinc

You made a comment claiming the motives of a company you dont know anything about, you didn't even do it as speculation.

UNDERSTAND?

was that patronising enough? :)

[Seferoth75]

Poor Pork Chop. On the defensive over nothing but the truth. You do not need to know everything about a specific company to understand even the most basic business practices.

All companies want your money and your loyalty. I'd say the one that knows nothing about Sony is you.

[iamnsuperman]

you guys should read a blog i did on this website that highlights the term troll and how it has been so overused that people are just accusing everyone who they disagree with as a troll

[DaTruth]

PS3, It's only faulted with everything!

[ReBurn]

PS2 BC wasn't cut because people wanted a cheaper device. That's a very naive point of view, in my opinion. That may have been part of it, but the main reason BC was cut to prolong the life of the PS2, since that was the only platform making money for Sony at the time.

Look where we are today. PS2 sales are plummeting as PS3 adoption grows. It's no longer the cash cow it was a couple of years ago. So creating this adapter is a way to continue to generate profit from the PS2 hardware in the face of the natural end of life of the console.

[yewles1]

It looks small in comparison to the supposed PS3 in the patent. It might be affordable (hopefully).

[i_am_interested]

what youre seeing connected to the ps3 is basically a slim ps2 except half the size because they can take out the dvd drive, all the power connectors, usb slots, controller slots, memory card slots, and whatever else that can already be provided by the ps3

[xDaRkModEx]

I don't see me buying a new console and a adapter to play old games. :/. Might as well buy the old system. Is it really that hard to emulate the ps2?

On that note,I wonder if the ps4 would be able to play ps3 games.

[jack_burt0n]

it gets rid of the pain of not having hdmi for ur old console and having to have 2 things hooked up at once.

and yes it is that hard to emulate, it was the onchip ram that had such massive bandwidth capabilities which is hard to emulate even now.

[maxcer]

lol good luck trying to get ps3 games to run on a ps4. they fucked themselves again just like the BC ps2 fiasco. the ps4 will probably be so vastly different in architecture that hardware might be required to bridge the gap just like the ps2/3 problem we have today. lol, just thank sony for making alien tech that won't integrate with future releases.

[chanto23]

usb disk drive, and it upscales and improves performance then i'll get it right away

[Tron_Rocks]

One of the selling points when the PS3 was first announced was the backwards compatibility. Then they took that away, as they have taken away many other features with the firmware updates. I don't own a PS2 nor should I have to buy one. They can make a software emulator viable, emulation has been perfect for a dozen years on other systems, don't try to tell me Sony the CREATORS of the PS2 can't make a great PS2 emulator for the all powerful PS3.

At least with my XBOX they have added features and have been true to there word about compatibility.

PS3 - It Only does everything except play PS2 games MEH!

[iamnsuperman]

The emulation of PS2 games cost money and was removed so that the PS3 could become profitable per unit (business is business)..... Your xbox might have kept there word about that but broke it with shoddy hardware with major failure problems. This is just for people who want to play there old PS2 games we do not have to buy it but its just an idea...I for one sold my PS2 and old games so I could afford the PS3 and I am happy with my decisions. Sony and Microsoft are in the gaming market to make money and Sony had to get rid of the PS2 function so that they could make a profit...You can hardly talk about Sony being the only ones breaking promises...look at Microsoft with there recent business decisions

[vhero]

Cannot see this happening purely because downloadable PS2 titles would make sony and 3rd partys more money as they could charge £15-£20 for old titles and make a lot of money off previous titles. There is really no money to be made from the initial investment. Plus the fact new PS2 games are hardly being made anymore so you would have to rely on the 2nd hand market and we ALL know how Sony feels about that. So Sony would be in theory with this device helping the 2nd hand market something I cannot see happening.

[jack_burt0n]

it ensures that ps2 gamers are more likely to upgrade to a ps3 imo, its a little cynical but that means they can end ps2 production and switch it to this adapter without forcing ppl to be without any ps2 hardware options.

[dredgewalker]

I still have my ps2 and I barely touch it. I hooked it up once to my hdtv and it looked god-awful. I'll stick to hd remakes and PS3 games, cause I didn't buy a PS3 to play my old games and make my eyes bleed. Ps2's are so cheap and everyone I know still has one for reminiscing old favorites.

[travelguy2k]

I think this is so anyone that gets a PS4 will be able to conect their PS3 and keep the blueray and cell and RSX. The PS3 can really just be an add-on. You can Cluster cell Processors, in this way they can just add cell Processors but not have to include an optical drive or HDD, or any audio/video output, just raw processing Power. Its a sweet deal, and could really extend the lifespane of the PS3.

Plus the architechture would be the exact same, just more spu's and and spe's

[maxcer]

im guessing the ps4 won't be using the cell processor at all. why would they when faster alternatives are available? you wouldn't use the same graphics chip or the same type/ammount of ram would you?

[Dark_king]

It will not use this cell for sure,but it will be a chip built on the
Cell BE design.I would not expect to see it use a chip thats to much faster.
I excpect it to stay around the same speed but increase its bandwith.

[SuperStrokey1123]

wait, so the homebrew guys with limited hack access could get ps2 games to work via emulation but sony has to get a new piece of hardware? Im confused...

[UltimateIdiot911]

So far I have seen no proof of that. So as of that, that's all smokes and mirrors.

The current PS3 lack the hardware to properly emulate PS2. PC has yet to properly emulate PS2. Heck even the 80gb has yet to fully emulate PS2 with half the hardware.

[nevin1]

Isnt it cheaper than designing/building a adaptar? Anyway, thank god i have atleast software bc because i already hate the dongles for Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

But if this is the only way to ensure PS4 BC, i quess i can't complain.

[ReBurn]

It's probably cheaper and faster to produce the adapter. Emulating the CPU and GPU of the PS2 is probably much more difficult than people expect, and with the sheer number of titles available the emulation would probably be limited at best. But using the actual hardware there is no need to emulate, likely guaranteeing maximum compatibility.

[travelguy2k]

but they will charge for the adaptor

[FAGOL]

Bit silly though. Why not buy a ps2 it's extremely cheap now. Unless this adaptor has extra features I can't see why any1 would buy it. The whole point of backwards compatibility is that either software emulation or hardware is inside the ps3.

[TheLastGuardian]

I hope the PS4 is backwards compatible with PS3 games. That would be amazing if it could play all playstation games including PS1,PS2,PSP and PS3.

[CimmerianDrake]

That this is for the PS4. Kaz Hirai said he wants developers to work with Sony in designing the PS4, so you can pretty much guarantee that it will have almost an entirely different architecture than the PS3. Such an adapter would likely be like the PS3 hardware scaled down so that PS3 games can be played on a PS4. This seems the most likely thing to occur given the age of the PS2, how late it would be in the PS3's life cycle to add BC, and Sony's focus being on the future.

[MonopolyRSV]

Would be even better if the PS3 could somehow add additional processing power for the PS4 when both are connected.

[writersblock]

Everytime a patent goes up people seem to think that its DEFEINITLY coming out or they are heavily considering it

Ynow how much stuff companies patent daily? Even if its the dumbest fucking idea, they'll patent it just so the competition cant

Hell, MS will even patent their competitions product so after their research they got the legal rights

[Shoko]

Everyone should have a PS2 by now. I don't see why BC is such a big deal for PS3 owners when most have PS2's to begin with. OR, if they cared that much, then they would've bought an 80 gig Phat with BC.....

That's just my view on it.

[Kemicalbeliefs]

Well I have a few Buzz PS2 games that I still enjoyed playing on my 60gb PS3 but it has broken again. I got the red light, stripped and heat gunned the bugger, as you do and it worked for a month then the same again. I couldnt be bothered fixing so bought a new slim 250gb one.

Now I'm Buzzless and the children are gutted.

[roguewarrior]

ive used BC twice over 3 1/2 years. Played Vice City, and finished GOW2. i cant keep up with PS3 games, plus the grafix look horrible by today's standards. Cool feature to have on the checklist though.

[zero_gamer]

Not every gamer plays games for graphics.

[roguewarrior]

I'm grafix whore( Physics,Animation,ect.)Also if Sony put out a slim with all the features of the 60GB, plus wireless N( even though i use Ethernet) for say $400, id get another PS3.

[jhani]

i have always predicted that Sony would release such kind of a adopter that would allow ps2 emulation on ps3. And for Sonys part its damn good business to;)

[zero_gamer]

Interesting technology. My 20GB plays PS2 games just like the 60GB but this would be nice to have when upgrading to a Slim. This would also eliminate all future complaints about people not playing PS2 games on their PS3.

[JasonX43]

Not sure if I'd buy it or be the first one yelling Boycott it!

[stragomccloud]

This would actually be a day one buy for me. provided it is under $50.

[AliTheBrit19]

Wow

Sony make me sick.

The one and only reason they removed the backwards compatibility in the first place was to force you to buy more PS3 games.

So, Sony remove a feature from the PS3, only to add it back later and charge you for it?........................ Great ethics.

Microsoft and Nintendo are no better, but how the hell can anyone have love for this company?

[DJMarty]

Idiot, Sony removed the backwards compatibility to reduce production costs, which were needed to compete with Wii & 360.

Also if you were after BC, launch consoles were the way to go. I still have my Original Fat 60Gigger(upgraded to 640Gb), it still going strong. Best purchase I've made in years.

[neogeo]

maybe its like sega 32x! lol I'm a sucker for add on adapters. I don't know why but I love them.

[Paradise Lost]

It all depends on the size for me.

[Lazy_Gamer]

You guys should watch the IGN daily fix for today about Reach and this. Shows truly how 360 bias they are like most of the gaming media which is a joke.

Back on topic: If its cheaper than a PS2 and runs all PS2 games smoothly, its worth a purchase.

[MadMan00]

I hope they do this on 360...oh wait.

[Z777]

thats actually a pretty neat idea. If ps4 has no b/c for ps3 games then this type of device can be released along side seperately from the ps4 thus allowing sony to make ps4 even cheaper than if it had b/c and the device will likely be cheap. I would buy it.

[americanGTA]

and i JUST bought a ps2!

[DJMarty]

Sony removed BC in launch PS3's to get cost down. That worked, which is why we have the Slim now.

Awesome idea providing it could retail at about £40-50.

Re-releasing PS2 classics at PSN downloads woul be a great revenue stream.

[bunfighterii]

PS2 train has well and truly left the station. I think only the most hardcore would go back and play PS2 games now.

I mean honestly, with the library of PS3 games available now, who's gonna go back and play last gen games? Not many if any I say.

[Shnazzyone]

Take a feature out out of a device only to reintroduce it at a premium.