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Bonus Round - Analyze This, Part 2: X360 price cut, PS3 sales and more

Michael Pachter and Billy Pidgeon give us their analysis for the big three and what they need to do to end the final quarter on a high note.

- What impact of X360 price cut will have on Microsoft?
- Will Sony have a problem selling PS3 in this holiday season?
- Why is there so much demand for Nintendo's products?

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hotshot12376130d ago (Edited 6130d ago )

owned an xbox and are MOSTLY still from the xbox crowd. (most not all)
i wonder how much farther 360 will get then xbox.

im guessing alittle farther considering it has more games now. but by the time people really start to pick up the next gen consoles. ps3 price will be down so i wonder what will happen then. what do you guys think?

edit: heroman thats true. but sony has the best devs in the world. and ps3 is selling better then 360 with no games........YET and a higher price point. so eventually games will come so what are people gonna say then. at the same price point i honestly think it would be pretty much a rap for the 360

nasim6130d ago (Edited 6130d ago )

x360 sales have plummetted all over the world

BTW x360 have dropped out of the top 10 at amazon.

www.amazon.com

ps3 is at no 5 and x360 at no 14.

PS3 is outselling x360 all around thw wrold including NA

www.vgcharts.org
x360 could nt even hold on for 2 days in the top spot

in JAPAN ps3 beats x360 10:1

in EU 3:1 and in NA by 10--15k units per week

heroman7116130d ago

what you really have to consider is that when ps3 and and 360 are the same price it will all come down to games

achira6130d ago

when they are the same price, the ps3 will destroy the xbox360. it outsells it although it costs 100$ more.

power of Green 6130d ago (Edited 6130d ago )

What i think is the 360 will be in mass market range before PS3 figures out what hit it.

All that crap you post has nothing to do with the MS's/ 360's radiclly different stradigy.

I also think companies buying 360's straight from MS to sell the Home entertainment system(360) as Set-top boxes
in Europe etc will Hurt PS3 bad.

TheMART6130d ago

" 1 - 360 is only selling at the pace of the xbox. im assuming that since most people that liked halo
owned an xbox and are MOSTLY still from the xbox crowd. (most not all)
i wonder how much farther 360 will get then xbox. "

You forgot a few very important factors.

The original XBOX 1 sold @ 199 Euro/dollar after 6 months already. It started at what, 299 or so?

The 360 is selling @ 399 Euro/dollar. Double the price. And it sells about on par, or bit over par. As they say. That's huge in volume/price! Imagine what it does after the pricedrop now and the future pricedrops.

360 owners aren't mostly from XBOX crowd. I know many 360 owners, many former PS2 owners that didn't want to wait for the PS3 or don't want to pay that much with less gaming experience then the 360.

I bet many of that XBOX 1 crowd/Halo fanatics could be waiting untill Halo 3 launches, especially with a Halo 3 special 360 edition.

I foresee a massive rise in 360 sales with the AAA Bioshock this month, the former XBOX 1/Halo fanatics that are waiting for Halo 3 and/or special Halo 3 edition 360, plus Christmas with all those titles of the coming months.

@ Achira

"when they are the same price, the ps3 will destroy the xbox360. it outsells it although it costs 100$ more."

Yeah. That's why the 360 sold double the PS3 numbers in april/may/june and sold more the whole first half year of 2007. Only July 2007 was good on sales for the PS3. And now we go back to the normal business. The 360 on top:

Premium 360 for 349 dollar/euro
PS3 last pricedrop models 499 Dollar/599 EUro (superpackage)
And after they sold out, back to 600 dollar again.

Pricedifference now: 150 dollar and 250 Euro. PS3 back to 600 dollar... Well you figure that out.

Plus, the 360 will always stay ahead in the lower pricing compared to the PS3

Anego Montoya FTMFW6130d ago

back to normal business.

well NORMAL business is SONY being the household name for gaming.

so i agree, its going back to normal business, July was the beginning.

thanks for clearing that up.

Gil6130d ago

Dear God, what is wrong with you? First you misspell your screen name Anego Monotya, a clear rip off of the character "Inigo Montoya" from "The Princess Bride". Now you misspell it again. You are funny.

Gil6130d ago

Sticking up for your boyfriend? AAAWWWW, that's sweet.

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Marty83706130d ago

PS3 is out selling 360 everwhere including US,Europe,UK & Japan. 360 reliabilty problems isn't helping sales. Expect 360 sales to get worse before they get better.

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The Indie Games Scene Is Carrying The Gaming Industry At This Point

Indie games are single-handedly carrying the gaming industry right now and it's about time they get their deserved recognition.

shinoff218313h ago

Idk about numbers but it certainly seems so. I'm cool with indies so no biggie.

anast11h ago

I'm cool too, but perception is just that.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai1d 5h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander197220h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

-Foxtrot19h ago

@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander197220h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz18h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay18h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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The Digital Dragons 2024 conference event was a huge success story

"Three days filled with specialist lectures delivered by almost 200 speakers, three thematic summits, and over 2600 guests from almost every corner of the world - the capital of Małopolska became the capital of the games industry for a few days.

Organized by the Krakow Technology Park, the Digital Dragons Conference once again showed that Poland is attracting more and more attention from the world's biggest industry tycoons for a reason." - Digital Dragons.