Mafia 2: PS3 Version Graphically Inferior for Better Performance

2K gives the reason why the PS3 version is lacking minor graphical features like grass and the reason is for better performance and stable framerate.

[TheHater]

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah ha.....shit nose bleeding from all that laughing. The reason was for better performance? The PS3 version run worst than the xbox 360 version when it comes to framerate, no motion blur, etc. Who do they think they are kidding with better performance BS.

@rroded
Nope, I don't own a PS3. Why don't you check my fictional PSN ID and trophy Card
http://ps3trophycard.com/pr... http://card.mmos.com/psn/pr...

[rroded]

i guess this small detail over a gta clone thats prob gonna flop is something right...

so enjoy it thehater along with al your multiple accounts n friends in the msdf tho with all the trollin you guys do id b surprised if you had time ta play.

Just try not to think about all those AAA games that are redefining what a console can do. So go ahead enjoy your multiplat if you dont have the pc ta run it properly while the rest us play beyond XD kz2 u2 r/c WKC etc etc etc...

[TheHater]

http://forums.2kgames.com/f...
read through that thread because I am too lazy to find the post that describe that the PS3 version drop to 15-20 frames a second at times and all the other problems. Oh and it have a video showing the problems with the PS3 version over the xbox 360 version.

Edit:ahahahahahah
I have multiple accounts? This is actually the first time I been accused of having multiple accounts and be a member of MSDF.
http://n4g.com/user/comment...
Look at my post history, do I look like a troll or someone that is in MSDF?

[rroded]

tho i stand by what i said so many msdf gloating bout this its silly

guessing you were dissing teh devs n not the ps3 sorry
as for this game being subpar on the ps3 im not arguing the only version worth owning if you even want ta play it is the pc version imo.

[Conloles]

Lol meanwhile PC gets even better graphics with a higher framerate still anyways.

[GWAVE]

Well I hope for fans of the series that they can get it on a working platform, but honestly, have people played the Mafia games? It's a barely-passable GTA clone with boring driving sequences. C'mon. With games coming out this fall/winter like Halo Reach, Fable III, GT5, LBP2, CoD:Black Ops, Rock Band 3, and more, do we REALLY want to quibble over this game? Really? It'd be like arguing over who got the better version of Fracture...

[sikbeta]

@Conloles

You're not defending your x-bros this way dude, you are doing it wrong, you have to say that PC+windows is "da best" while no hurting the feeling of your little brothers....

O-T

Whatever douches, I wasn't expecting something different from them anyway....

[Two-Face]

Did you just say that Mafia is as bad as Fracture? Oh god, why don't you just leave this gaming site, because you obviously don't know shit about games or what makes a game great. MAFIA: The City Of Lost Heaven is so much better than GTA games. The soundtrack, the voice acting, the story, is all perfect. Driving in Mafia is some of the best aspects of the game, it's very fun, and the cars are awesome.

And Mafia II demo is AWESOME. You probably played the inferior PS3 version. PC is the best.

[suckerpunch]

you are jackass. he didn't even say ps3 is less capable than 360 technically, in fact he was bashing the lazy developer for not making ps3 version run and look as good as 360 one because the ps3 certainly is more than capable of that as proven by the favorite ps3 fanboys favorite trinity killzone, uncharted and god of war. and yet you are bashing him ? i guess most of you ps3 fanboys misunderstood him, he was against the lazy developer and not the ps3. and just bcos this game looks more suckass than 360 version, you call it a probable flop, come on......you know that was just your excuses......you ps3 fanboys really can't take it do you ?. the rest of you ps3 fanboys play beyond ? what does that mean ? critically and commercially succesful games (not a flop) like WKC (is it white knight chronicles, metascore 64, not even singe A)and dont call reviews and meta score bullshit if you all keep bragging about UC2 being godlike with 96 metascore. man !....the irony is unprecedented here.

regardless of which side you are on, being a fanboy is totally fine as long you give credits and respect where they due. what is all this idiotic hatred. i admit i am a 360 fanboy but i also acknowledge the greatness of the trinity and the technical superiority of the ps3.

[sixaxis]

Its very right to be mad and bash 2k devs, theres really NO excuse for ps3 version being even worse than 360s. We all know when developed with inspire and passion ps3 games look superb and kick 360s ass thanks to many titles marked with "best looking console game"!!
mafia2 case here is just lazy development!! anyway, this really made me stay away from mafia2, i will get PC version instead.

[TheHater]

"Who do they think they are kidding with better performance BS."
In other words, their excuses is lacking just like the PS3 "port." <<See what I did there :)

[SaberEdge]

This really is the weirdest generation ever. The console that has the best looking exclusives is not the same console that has the better looking multi-platform games. That has never happened before that I can remember. In the past it was always the case that the most powerful console had the better looking exclusives AND multi-platform games.

It's just weird because games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Killzone 2 and GT5 prove that the PS3 is a very capable machine. The problem I guess is that it is also very tricky to program for. You kind of need to program for it from the ground up, taking full advantage of the SPUs. Unfortunately it doesn't seem that some developers have the time or budgets to do that properly.

At least the situation has improved a lot. Multi-platform games have gotten better on the PS3, even though we still get some stinkers like this one.

[Rainstorm81]

First GTA4 then RDR now Mafia 2......... is Take two the new Valve??

Sad thing is i played the demo on X360 and found the game to be lackluster, i didnt even bother with the PS3 demo

[kwicksandz]

how was it better?
the lower res?
the worse framerate?
the longer loads?

[Motorola]

@ kwicksansz There were no longer loads, I have played both versions however you are right about the other things.

[rroded]

game was smoother on the ps3 less frames droped n screen tearing n popups on the ps3 but the 360 version looked a bit better n both were def playable.

[ZombieAutopsy]

Kinda sad, good thing the demo showed me there is no reason to buy this game no matter what platform.

[XactGamer]

Win some lose some

[sikbeta]

They lose, if they can't deliver the exact same crap in both consoles something is wrong and if they don't want to fix it, they're screwing themselves...

[ndibu]

But I'm over my trolling ways. Instead I will ask the ps3 fans to use this as an opportunity to learn some humility.
Lol by the way at this excuse. Gta Iv had great game play and did not look half as bad as this does

[cyber_crysis]

I'm gonna pass. The demo was mediocre. Tons of screen tearing which ruins the experience imo.

Either way if they fix it along the way i might buy...the PC version.

[SaberEdge]

I hate screen tearing. I am so sick of the amount of screen tearing in many of today's multi-platform games. (I need to get a gaming PC).

Having no screen tearing, a stable frame rate, and decent anti-aliasing should be a developers first priority. Make everything work within the boundaries of whatever that leaves you. I don't know why some developers don't understand this. I can always appreciate a game for whatever it is so long as it feels stable and performs well. Screen tearing and lots of slow down make a game feel broken or unfinished.

That's why I don't like the 360 version either. It has too much screen tearing.

When will developers learn? Build within the limits of the hardware and your engine. Don't try to push a level of graphics that your engine can't handle which will only end up making the game feel like an unfinished piece of crap.

[FuckinUsername]

Shite game. Idc

[dorron]

To Mafia II developers, just one word...Uncharted!

[newhumanbreed]

Saddens me that I like the style of the game, but greatly dislike the controls. The controls feel so weird. Gonna have to pass on this one because most likely I won't be having fun with the set of controls you have to use.

[realplayer82]

RDR says hi the best openworld game this year and not on pc and in the running for GOTY. Mafia2 wont even be in the top 5 for GOTY awards.

[GigaGaia]

There is no reason the PS3 version is inferior. By their logic, if it would have been optimized for each consoles, the PS3 version should be the better one, seeing the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. This is the cause of lazy development, like Bayonetta.

By the way, no matter platform you have, don't buy this game. It is nothing but an attempt to copy GTA and it fails at that. Unlike GTA, this game is story oriented and there is never a lot to explore.

In fact, it looks so much like GTA, rockstar should actually sue them for copying them.

[Raider69]

Speak the truth!?The 360 version is more easy to port due to specs that match the PC hardware!And 2K and other dev teams dont have 2 to 4 years to build an engine from scratch like Guerrilha and Sony Santa Monica had for making does beautiful exclusives like Killzone2 and GOW 3!Time is money!In fact this is bond to happen more times now that a new generation of consoles will soon appear!It is state that some dev' teams are already working on games for the next generation PS4 and the new Xbox being so they have too capitalise more faster on the hardware that is on market right now ( 360 and PS3 ) theres less time for full specs optimization especially on the PS3 that haves a totally different way of code and programme!

[thief]

The graphics pecking order goes like this:
PS3 exclusive (KZ2/UC2, tramples every other game in the dust) >> 360 verson of multiplatform (GTA4, Mafia 2, Bayonetta) > PS3 version of multiplatform >> 360 exclusive (halo 3, Splinter Cell, L4D, cant even manage 720p most of the time)

[SaberEdge]

You think random multi-platform games on 360 and PS3 look better than 360 exclusives in general? You are just talking nonsense.

[Pillville]

Here is one example of multiplat looking better:
Assassin's Creed looks better than Halo and Fable II.

But there are obviously many more multiplats that look worse than Gears/Halo/Fable/AlanWake/Etc. ..

[Motorola]

L4D not exclusive Im playing it on PC right now :D

[Corrwin]

Very poor show.

I was a little disappointed when playing the demo, and realising the game looks only marginally better than the original on PC, several years ago.

Even Pandemic made The Saboteur look and play slightly better on PS3 using an experimental for of AA, whilst maintaining a high-standard on 360.

[raztad]

I liked the demo gameplay. I'll be picking the full game, when two conditions are met: bargain bin price and have a capable PC.

2K performance on consoles development is indeed poor, being the PS3 port the worst offender. As you said even the already shatdown Pandemic did better.

[NYC_Gamer]

well about that time ps3 owners start skippin over these half ass ports...

[SaberEdge]

In a way that is a double edged sword. On one hand it might make them wake up and realize they need to do whatever it takes to make the PS3 versions equal to the 360 versions. On the other hand it might just make 3rd party publishers start to ignore the PS3 since it isn't making them as much money.

[raztad]

@Saber

NOBODY is going to ignore the PS3. That may have been true back in the days when the userbase wasnt there but aint true anymore.

Half assed ports like Bayonetta were badly received by PS3 owners and critics, and now Platinum made the PS3 the leading platform for Vanquish.

True is the PS3 is harder to develop for, but if devels want our money they need to put the time and effort. First party devels deserve our money because they are always pushing the bar, mediocrity shouldn't be encouraged.

[beavis4play]

this just went from a day1 purchase to not buying until i find a used copy for $10.

[MGRogue2017]

... That's kinda wierd.

PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox 360.. And yet stuff needs to be removed from the PS3 version in order for it to be on par with the Xbox 360 version.

That doesn't make any sense, Does it? :S

Fucking lazy developers!

[syrion]

bye bye 2k !!!
it's so sad just because your new game have no grass and less blood and lack of other feature
you will be loss many fanbase especially from ps3 user

[noregrets726]

they took 8 years to make this game, on 2ks forum this is what was said;

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[Originally Posted by Sicilian]
then why does the 360 version have it, thax for a crappy port
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Nothing was ported. Each version was built on its own system - be it PS3, 360, or PC. That's actually one of the reasons for the slight variations - there is no port here.

[Raider69]

Do you really believe what they are saying lol!?2K Czech is mainly a small dev team on the 2K'games or Take-Two interactive company theres no way different development teams for the different hardwares on it,what you could have is different development cycles related to optimization,but the team working on the PC is most likely the same that work on the PS3 and 360!The main focus was PC and them they shift to consoles along the way .

[il-mouzer]

all those who said that the Mafia series is just a boring GTA-clone have seriously never played the first game, it was like watching the Sopranos or Goodfellas set in the 1930s, yes it was that good.

[xino]

the ps3 version not only suffers from trash graphics but from POOR framerate drops!

I'm not buying this trash!

Had enough of developers always taking a piss at the ps3's version!

[btk]

Well this sucks.
Luckily there is enough games to make me not miss a bad port. Will focus a bit on Move enabled games.