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RPGs Don't Need Fixin'

Despite what gamers think, role-playing games don't need to be fixed.

ColManischewitz5044d ago

"We just need to stick to playing what we like and allow others to do the same without judgment or condemnation. Something's out there for everyone."

Gamers spend too much time attacking each other instead of listening to each other. We should spend more time celebrating what's good -- or what we like -- instead of attacking what others like.

Acquiescence5043d ago

There's no current-gen RPG to match the heights reached by FFVII. At least not for me. I'm waiting.

Nerox35043d ago

FF12 is the best so far

Count5043d ago

I hope you mean 'J'RPG.

zatrox5043d ago

But FFVII wasn't even good.
...
I, myself, am waiting for something like Illusion of Gaia, Mother 3 or something like that.
Then again, those are games that come once every 10 years.

Eamon5043d ago

Yeah, FFVII is my all-time favourate JRPG.

I just finished it for the second time today after like 10 years!

kancerkid5043d ago

FOr some reason people who play a lot of RPGs don't think new RPGs need to be "fixes" (whatever that means). It is people used to Oblivion and Fallout 3 who think there is a problem.

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WhatARump5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

Try Demon's Souls ;)
May not match up to your expectations but it's a damn good RPG
Or try borderlands, it's a different type of game but it's great too!

An amazing JRPG would need likable characters, a strong plot, really good gameplay (try not to be repetitive), voice acting and good graphics.

The trend I'm seeing is that there are annoying characters, a forgettable plot, uninspiring combat, maybe decent voice acting and mediocre graphics.

They really to address these issues one by one; I am very stingy regarding characters because they are extremely important in a JRPG seeing as the story is based around them. The characters are basically a deal breaker for me which outweigh any other aspect.

Godmars2905044d ago

And by that I mean JRPG devs need to come to terms with HD consoles. Lay off thriving for graphics if it means they have to give up gameplay or standards like, oh, I don't know - TOWNS?!

Acquiescence5043d ago

Decent voice-acting
Non-linearity

All would go down smooth like a cold beer on a summer night.

Godmars2905043d ago

JRPGs need to re-embrace turn based combat. Loose the vacant real-time combat arenas that have actually taken away strategic thought and gameplay as well as the inability to control and manage a party of characters. Forced an implementation of AI when they apparently didn't want to use it.

Nerox35043d ago

@godmars games are supposed to be fun not nerdy strategy sh*t like dota or red alert or what ever the f*ck strategy is...sure games should have something that makes u think...puzzles but not turn based sht that takes away all the action

admanb5043d ago

When did JRPGs ever have turn-based combat?

HelghastKid5043d ago

just because you are afraid to use your brain for a game doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. Turn based JRPGs are FAR superior to there real time counterparts.

x5exotic5043d ago

@helgastkid

its not about being afraid to use my brain,its about being afraid to waste ur time and money on a game that has no fun and is only about thinking....u wanna think? many games has puzzles but changing the whole gameplay to require only strategy is simply gay...where is the action...just answer me..no fun,real time are far superior but problem is old people as usual are against the new generation cuz they just dont get it,the world is changing....get over it :D

x5exotic5043d ago

besides ....having a turn to play while the enemy does nothing isnt that smart..it shows how slow ur brain is....u better think fast while sh*t happens all around u ,have a good reaction..
see ATB requires more than just strategy-a good,fast,SMART reaction and u have no cnance 2 waste time >.< but also in return it GIVES u FUN

btw....assuming for example that people who didnt like FF12 were the turn based fans "the smart guys"...the main think they hated was the gambit system cuz 'game plays itself" but they were too stupid to realize that they can turn it off....yea so much for brain...

HelghastKid5042d ago

Argh i hate replying late but oh well you need to be schooled lol. A game does not have to be fast paced in order to be fun, especially an RPG. Are you telling me that games like FF4 were easy because they were turned based? I didnt say Real time RPGs were terrible, they are fun but turn based is better. It takes more strategy in them because you need to plan out what skills you are going to use ahead of time keeping you on your feet. For ex: Chess is extremely strategic and TURN BASEED

Btw, im 17 lol if you think im old then you shouldn't even be on N4G

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Redempteur5043d ago

you want towns ? in native 1080p ?
Go play WHITE KNIGHT CHRONICLES !
It has a huge online quest system too ..

Tolkoto5044d ago

I agree with the writer. I think the death of the JRPG has been greatly exaggerated.

Optical_Matrix5044d ago

Well I'm playing Dragon Quest IX right now. And, if it's anything to go by, RPG's definitely don't need fixing.

Godmars2905043d ago

The issue is with JRPGs on current consoles. The PS3 and 360, not the DS or PSP. handhelds which are on par now to the PS2 which was the leading JRPG platform in its time.

bbretterson5043d ago

It seems to me that with the innovations we're seeing in recent RPGs -- from DeathSpank to DQ9 -- RPGs are managing to fix themselves.

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Lost Odyssey Is Still One Of The Best Xbox RPGs Ever

17 years later, it still stands out.

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shinoff218394d ago

I liked blue dragon more. Lost odyssey is the shit though.

jznrpg94d ago

Two of the few games I still own for Xbox360 . I have Magna Carta 2 , Last Remnant but also have the PS4 version so I may have got rid of it and I have the DS version of Blue Dragon. I think and a few others but I forget what they are since I don’t dust them off. that’s about it.

shinoff218394d ago (Edited 94d ago )

Another one I still havent got to try is infinite undiscovery. I read it was pretty linear but I usually fk with tri ace(star oceans are great).

Really my only issue with lost odyssey was the level cap they hit you with throughout the game. I enjoy just relaxing and doing some grinding every once in awhile. Could've atleast given the option. Other then that. Excellent game.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 360 imo had atleast half or more that Gen of being the better jrpg system. I bought one earlier then I normally would have for some, and Alan wake. Japanese devs really got in their feelings that Gen and dropped the ball(thanks Phil phish, cocky ass ign, etc)

darthv7293d ago

You'd be better off playing Lost Odyssey on an XBO or Series X as no disc swapping and it looks and plays much better. Same with Blue Dragon. I still keep my 360 hooked up for games not on the bc list. for everything else, I use the series x now. Just last night I installed arkham origins as there is no 8th gen version like asylum/city.

I love having bc on xbox one/series hardware.

shinoff218393d ago

Darth

When I bought the the Xbox one off a couple worker. That was the first thing indid. Bought blue dragon and lost odyssey. Been waiting to catch infinite undiscovery on sale but I forget to check.

I used to own the 360 versions but I bought these digital. I'd like to track down the 360 ones again but no huge deal. I was actually playing through lost odyssey waiting for starfield to drop.

RaidenBlack93d ago

Is Lost Odyssey coming to PS, too?

cthulhucultist94d ago

The game was indeed amazing. Great characters, gameplay and story!

But the dream sequences penned by Shigematsu were sublime.

I still remember many of these stories and I have integrated in the past in my D&D campaign many years ago.

RpgSama94d ago

I'm not going to lie, I cried on more than on a couple of them

Dabigsiebowski94d ago

Microsoft should have just kept pumping money into these guys. Same with a lot of the other studios... the blundered hard.

Lost Odysee deserved a franchise even though development wasn't smooth

Michiel198994d ago

Am I the only one who doesn't wanna see every good game get sequel after sequel? It was a great game, but sometimes it's better to just make a one off and then create a new universe. Sadly that costs a lot more money and publishers don't wanna risk it, but I would definitely prefer it

shinoff218394d ago

I'm fine with sequels in jrpgs, even in the vain of ff sequels, all new stories and characters. It does get old in other genres though sometimes. For the most part I just game by game basis it all.

FinalFantasyFanatic93d ago

They could have done it like Final Fantasy, kept the title name and just start with a new world/characters, it's not like the creator isn't familar with that.

Concertoine94d ago

Idk, Japan never bit for Xbox despite their best efforts around this era. Mistwalker never exploded either, despite future partnerships with Nintendo whichhad a much better chance at success

BrainSyphoned94d ago

It's not like it has had any competition since 2007. Would really like to own the short stories from it in book form.

PapaBop93d ago

360 had some amazing JRPGs in it's early days, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia off the top of my head were all amazing games.

jznrpg94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

The problem with most MS games on 360 was they didn’t make the games they paid for them and that makes you less money in the long run and isn’t something you can continue to do especially with declining sales of consoles. MS should have been starting and growing studios from the beginning but they went for paid games and it leaves them without the knowledge and culture of making games.

shinoff218394d ago

Good points. Never thought of that like that back then.

Sgt_Slaughter93d ago

Not to mention killing the Japanese market that had all sorts of crazy and fun releases up until 2009-2010. They could have gained momentum on Nintendo and kept that going into the Xbox One era, but decided to "unify" efforts and that all but ended their presents in the country. Now, PS4's outsell the Xbox Series S three years into the new system's life cycle, and the 2/3DS at one point was doing the same.

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Fifteen years on, Lost Odyssey is a perfect swansong for the formula Hironobu Sakaguchi perfected

It’s quite hard to believe, but Lost Odyssey turns fifteen years old today. A curious product of the time, it has arguably only got better with age - and not just because of what it is, but also what it represents.

andy85529d ago

Jeez doesn't seem 15 years. Very fond memories of this

FortWaba528d ago

The short stories that Kaim collects/remembers are truly emotional. I remember one in particular made my eyes water.

If you've never played this, try to hunt down an original copy, or emulate it. This game was a gem.

GoodGuy09528d ago

I wish there was a remaster. This and Last Story. Sad these games were released on the...wrong platforms...

kingnick528d ago

Considering all the early tech issues Unreal Engine 3 had combined with Japanese developers working with a foreign language engine Lost Odyssey on the PS3 would have been a tech disaster if it had used UE3.

Lost Odyssey's long load times and framerate drops are evidence of just how hard it was working with early builds of UE3, it's a miracle Lost Odyssey turned out as well as it did.

In a perfect world Lost Odyssey would have launched on the PS3 but I doubt Sony or anyone else would have funded the project if Microsoft didn't.

shinoff2183527d ago

It wouldve sold better thats for sure and maybe dude wouldnt be doing mobile games now

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Top 10 Best Nintendo DS RPGs

Alex DS. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "The little handheld that could was a dream for role-playing game fans, with both major blockbusters and cult-classics making the DS a handheld you always wanted to have in your backpack. "

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