Morgan Webb thinks Super Mario Galaxy 2 is too cartoony, continues to bash the game

Morgan Webb talks trash about Super Mario Galaxy 2

[tunaks1]

I couldn't help but laugh the whole time,
"a more mature mario with adult content,"
ok Morgan, ok

another thing that other girl said she was playing MG2 in 1080i???

[SinnedNogara]

What does she want in a Mario game? This:

[YourWrongIAmRight]

She sounds like a whore

[HolyOrangeCows]

Uhh....copyright claim by Comcast?

Was it supposed to be comedic, or...what? Because I didn't get to see it.

[Legosz]

It hasn't worked for about a day now and yet this article is top 5...

[kneon]

I've often criticized certain games for being too cartoony, but those are games in which the cartooniness doesn't fit with the rest of the game or the genre of game. But this is Mario, this is inherently cartoony. how could it be any other way?

[Nike]

She's right. Mario SHOULD be more mature. I mean, didn't that turn out great for the Sonic franchise, when they made Shadow the Hedgehog?

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Oh, wait...

[RedDevils]

why did you post the link twice

[Bereaver]

One is ps2, one is xbox.

[NewNameNow]

A Mario game thats too cartoony?

Your right, its not like the target audience is children or anything.

[Smacktard]

Yeah, clearly the target audience is not people who enjoy good games.

That'd be pure lunacy.

[NeoBasch]

Maybe, but some people prefer a bit of intellectual sophistication. That's why many people watch TV shows like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, or Damages versus something like The Big Bang Theory or Ghost Whisperer. Hassling people because of different tastes is just as idiotic.

[jack who]

Morgan i love u but shut up

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

This is the very first time I agreed with you.

[Dylantalon1]

ratchet and clank acit > mario galaxy 2. actually mario 3 and super mario 64 imo are the best mario games

[Sunny_D]

Dude really? I know Ratchet and Clank are awesome. But, Super Mario Galaxy 2 has been getting universal praise. I'm pretty sure you didn't even play it. But I'm pretty sure Mario is better than Ratchet and Clank.

My 2 cents

[cobraagent]

Mario better than Ratchet & Clank? Is this a joke or something? Ratchet & CLank has some actual STORY and way better GRAPHICS

[Eamon]

Super Mario has never been about story.

*SPOILER*Princess Peach gets kidnapped yet again!*SPOILER*

In terms of gameplay there is no other classic platformer better than the Super Mario series.
Yes, Ratchet and Clank is good but please don't say it's better just because of graphics or because it's a PS3 exclusive.

Super Mario gameplay is unmatched!

[Sunny_D]

Well, now that you mention it, R&C do have a much better story, and platforming sections that are unique. I guess it's just that I've been playing Mario as a kid, so it's a bit nostalgic for me.

[cobraagent]

Gameplay is unmatchable??? Its fun, i agree, but certainly not unmatchable. Mario has always been about fun, Ratchet on the other hand has always been about an experience.
"Super Mario has never been about story."
So what? Is not it a game that should be reviewed like every other game? Oh wait its Mario, its the Wii, we can't review it like other games, its an exception
Yes, you overrate the game because it was one of your first games. I understand, but lets be realistic here

[AKS]

There's nothing out there right now that is matching SMG2's level design. It's friggin' brilliant with it's creativity and humor. It is absolutely a legitimate GOTY candidate. And as far as graphics go, I have no problem appreciating the visuals even after playing through Crysis and Crysis Warhead, the most visually impressive games ever released. It's the best looking Wii game and has a fantastic art style. It also has fantastic, smooth animation, has a terrific, distinctive art style, and is incredibly polished and refined.

It's a shame these two great franchises (Mario and Ratchet) are used in console war shenanigans. I buy every one of those games and have no problem enjoying both.

[RedDevils]

ever get tired of mario, this game been milking the cow to dead. If Nintendo could create a new character and use that character instead of mario that would be much better. It like Nintendo is scare of using something new

[hatchimatchi]

ratchet and clank & mario are both great.

Nintendo fanboys will denounce R&C because it's a ps3 title and PS3 fanboys will denounce Mario games because they view them as childish.

Both are excellent series and masters of their respective genre.

The only thing I think is messed up is that R&C don't get the praise they deserve. The writing and gameplay in those games are as good as it gets.

A Crack in Time was my personal goty for 2009.

[PS360WII]

Personally I just can't see any reason to have to put the two on a comparison. They are 2 games that are completely opposite from each other. The only thing that makes them similar is that both the characters can jump. R&C is more weapons based while Mario is more like going through an obstacle course.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

But R&C it's a Sony exclusive franchise so it wins by default in N4G. Isn't that obvious?

[eagle21]

I actually dislike Ratchet and Clank games....sorry. Mario kills those games in one level...sorry. lol :)

[eagle21]

I stand by what I said 100%. It takes a really noob gamer to argue with me. I have been playing games since the NES. Tell me how R&C can even be mentioned in the same breath as Mario. GOTY so far...end of discussion. ;)

[hatchimatchi]

you come off as an ignorant troll, so this is what I have for you.

Ratchet and Clank did spherical platforming first. This is fact.

Does that make Mario Galaxy irrelevant? No, but since you use ignorant arguments, I'll stoop to your level and do the same.

You try to act like some elitist gamer who's seen and played everything. All you are is a fanboy, go away.

[PS360WII]

Hatchimatchi I'm pretty sure Sonic 3 and Yoshi Island 2 had spherical platforming.... not that it means anything to do something in a game first because every game would be nothing more than a copy of a copy of a copy.

[SonyNGP]

I'd rather have cartoony games rather than greyish brownish generic ones.

[Safalo]

Amen!

[hatchimatchi]

uh,

kameo, braid, ratchet and clank, folklore, final fantasy xiii, etc. all say, "HELLO!"

Not every game on the ps3 or 360 features a brown color palette.

[ceiltsei]

I sure hope every console features a brown palette.

But seriously, having blue, green, red, orange, yellow, purple, and the usual white and black on the same screen at the same time for most of a game is quite a visual experience.

[danielle007]

I personally consider Braid and Ratchet and Clank cartoony..

Anyways, though, I really don't understand the argument against what he is saying. He's just saying he would rather have cartoony, pretty games than generic games with the only colors being brown, dirt brown, grey, and black. He didn't say one thing suggesting he believes every game on the 360 and PS3 are generic or uncolorful.

So, I just don't understand. Enlighten me to your though process?

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

so she wants mario galaxy with killzone 2 graphics???

[SOAD]

That would be cool. Every time Mario shoots fireballs at a goomba you could hear the flesh sizzle and the goomba would disintegrate very viscerally. And all the enemies would talk with British accents.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

lol

[ceiltsei]

That's just bosh!

[ShiftyLookingCow]

If realism in Mario results in something like below I totally approve it.

[lzim]

seriously.. WTF I have no context for either reference but the mashup is priceless.

[dubal-e]

She's never been known for her intelligence. So why start now?

[saint_john_paul_ii]

isnt this the same morgan webb that threw a PS3 in the trash back in 2006 when it lauched, cause it had no games aparently, but then Sony Took a Big S**t on her when they we on an onslaught of exclusives?

seriously, dont listen to her...

[Rainstorm81]

Olivia Munn threw a PS3 controller on the floor after playing KZ2 or some other PS3 exclusive. For a gaming show they dont have much respect for gaming.

[Tony-A]

It's because they try way too hard to be funny.

[ceiltsei]

It's all in the name of the incredible modern wackiness. ZEE ZEE!!!

[Godmars290]

Its her opinion. Not like she's effecting G4's official review.

[SinnedNogara]

Yes, the person who wrote the review actually had a clue to what he was talking about.

[dizzleK]

i'd split her in half.

[Aphe]

So would I, with an axe.

[Ult iMate]

Something like that (too cartoonish)...

[thebudgetgamer]

fricken hiphopgamer gets his videos posted three times a week.

[ZoidsRaven]

Order a recall of that kiddy sh!t and put some tits in it to make it more "mature". 7_7

http://images2.fanpop.com/i...

[lizard81288]

yet she plays WoW doesn't she?

sure the game has a few flaws, but really...too cartoony. not that it matters. i heard they get paid to say certain things

[TheTwelve]

...but sheesh, he's a legend and he's always been like this. Any gamer has to respect the Mario franchise. Mario shouldn't change. I'm not going to go out and buy the game not because it doesn't have great reviews, but because I'm just not into Mario. Same reason I don't buy a LOT of games that people rave about...or watch movies that everybody does...or buy books that everybody does.

But you know, when I see little kids having a good time with it, how can I knock it? Not everything must bend to my tastes...I've got enough JRPGs and SRPGs and 3rd person action games to keep me happy.

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[tunaks1]

great comment
+bubble

[kesvalk]

well said man, have a bubble

[mcmmaster]

anyone got another link to the video, its been taken down

[tunaks1]

anyone who still wants to see the video head to: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blo...

[mcmmaster]

the link doesn't work

[CaptainMarvelQ8]

it works
anyways/how could she say that?
marios's always been like that ad always will be...it' great that way add wouldn't be mario without it

[Ripyealip]

I dont agree on the scores the game gets tho, but maybe its because its not my type of game

[Ult iMate]

Most of platformer games are cartoony. If not all of them.
And I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be cartoony.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

I thought the same of her too.

[jcgamer]

lol :)

[mcmmaster]

funny, how old are you, 12?????

[SilverSlug]

She can't even express her opinion properly.

[Tony-A]

Hey Morgan!

How about you shut the fuck up and help fix the channel you work for? I feel like I'm watching Spike TV, tru TV and some random Japanese channel all rolled into one. It works in theory, but it's utter shit when executed. I mean.... wtf is the goal of the channel?

"I feel like watching Cops, but not on any of the 100 channels it's already on. Hey, G4!"

Television's Recycling Bin.

[Redempteur]

Who is this idiotic girl ?there is nothing too cartonny in galaxy 2

what's the point of a realistic mario ? i mean it's been proven throughthe ages that jumping on mushrooms is still fun.

[anonymouse111335]

I think little big planet was too cartoony lets make a article about that.

Just because she reviews shit on TV doesn't make her special, nothing to see here, just a girl with a opinion.

[fr3d0]

She's hot

[coojo]

shes probably mad the game is to hard for her lol

[NicSage]

I can not stand Morgan Webb she is just plain awful.

[EvilTwin]

Saying a Super Mario platformer is "too cartoony" is like saying "man, what's with all of these guns in COD?"

[jalen247]

Couldn't agree more. Mario could use the power of the PS3...image Mario Galaxy with LBP level graphics...texture detail... depth of field...motion blur etc...

[Subzero200x]

it's her opinion, but that wont stop the millions from buying it obviously.

"she only gave her opinion you don't have to like it but resulting in personal insults is just sad really "

lol really

[HoofHearted]

It's so nice to see some professional reviewers not give every core Mario game the benefit of every doubt. So many reviews say things like the camera isn't always perfect, the story sucks and it's a lot like the original Galaxy yet still give it perfect 10s because Mario for some reason gets a free pass. It's not fair to other games. Period.

Mario core games should be judged just as strictly as every other game and not get a free pass because of how venerable the franchise is. It should not get more lenient reviews because of how important Mario is to video game history. It should be judged on its merits and I'm sorry but Galaxy is NOT perfect. It is NOT a 10. I can understand the 9s but the amount of 10s the game has gotten is just silly.

Yes, it IS a bit of an improvement over the original Galaxy but is that enough to merit what it has achieved?

[cobraagent]

Well said my friend. Mario is an exception, it is not reviewed like any other game. Why? Because if it were reviewed like very other game it would have gotten so many low scores that would dissapoint so many Mario fans. I know you fanboys will disagree because played Mario when you were kids but you know its unfair

[soptnrs]

There are too many tens to really justify the free pass theory. If you read every review, it will become clear that they are not giving the mario game a free pass because of history, but rather because what the game intends to do, it does masterfully.

The story does not matter simply by nature of being a mario game. Unlike other mediums, a story is not a mandatory requirement for a game, but rather a modern requirement for certain "hardcore" gamers. I'm not saying a story is bad in any way, and I thoroughly enjoy many games with a story, but in the end, my true enjoyment of the game is gameplay. In many cases they coexist wonderfully, but in rare but brilliant cases, the gameplay exists in such a thoroughly complete way that it trumps whatever lacks in story.

Sure, the game may not be for everybody and that is completely fair. After all, there are so many genres and and art styles that there is something in our medium for everybody. But to try and disprove what a multitude of reviewers believe is an injustice to both the effort that Nintendo made on the game and the effort the reviewers made in dissecting the experience. You may dislike the console, dislike the game, or even dislike the company, but in the end, all of the tens indicate that Nintendo created not a perfect game (perfection will never be achieved in its truest sense), but a game that is a masterpiece for the medium. Appreciate it for what it is: a brilliant game that is as close as perfect for its genre.

[Invader_Quirk]

People only think Mario gets a free pass because they've bought into the idea that story=fun. Mario is being judged as a platformer. In a platformer, you want to play, not be stopped all the time. I think Galaxy 2 has too much story. A story will in no way affect how I run and jump through a level, so screw it. Mario games (not including party or sports titles, which don't always fare well) get high scores because they're a blast to play.

Many reviewers don't believe in perfect games. Your nines are their tens. If you're fine with nine, then I don't see why ten is so far over the line.

[N4g_null]

See now mature would be a Mario from the future sent back to cuase great pain to all who opposes the cartoony Mario. He extracts this reveng because in the future he was forced to carry an automatic shot gun and join the fight against child hood.

Mario is now haunt by the deeds he has done.

Coming in 2012 marionator
stomp on foes till their brains ooz out their nose
1080 player maps with so much death a destruction we had to give you 10 minutes of god mode for you to survive.

Oh yeah watch the mini sex game where Mario must find and do Mario stuff to man jaw like women.

Yoshi is a raptor now that spits acid!

Saw people In half and expose realistic anatomy that even a surgin would apluad!

See that why gaming sucks these days. Way too many people that think they matter. If you don't like it then move on.
Ok Morgan is that the game you want?

[DaBadGuy]

Dude that's the game I want that sounds awesome, are you kidding me? I know you were trying to school Webb there but you single handedly brought the hardcore back to Nintendo. I loved Super Mario Galaxy 2, but if I could play a game where I can ride Raptor Yoshi while double wielding Tec-Nines, my life will have been fulfilled. Maybe that can be the Waluigi game because he's a take-no-shit badass.

[N4g_null]

@dabadguy

that's what I get paid to do but this time it's a joke.

I may just zbrush up a model for this lol or get some one else to do it.

Tech9s are old and they jam too much. The new automatic shot gun is way better even has a Tommy gun ammo resivour. Check you tube out!

Better yet if rage let's you mod stuff I'll do a mod of this maybe, maybe not. I'm warning it would suck but you asked for it!

[midgard227]

i know people like it but it is to cartoony for me. its to....too happy. what ever happened to nice silent yet fun mario in the days of nes and Snes?

he barley talks but when he does omg i want him to stfu.

its made for kids mostly and harcore mario fans but obviously not everyone is gonna like every game so calm down people just cuz we dont like it

[DaBadGuy]

whatever, I still love the game, and she's just plain adorable. The first game I ever played was Super Mario World for the SNES, so I've got a soft spot in my heart for Mario.....and I've got a hard part in my pants for Morgan Webb......I want to apologize for the previous childish remarks, there was nothing anyone could have done.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I don't know what "too cartoony" means for Super Mario. You should know beforehand whether you're interested or not, and I have not been interested in Mario since Super Mario World.

[zanzibarlegend]

SMG2 NEEDZ MOAR POST APOCALYPTIC CULORZ... in other words black brown and gray.
and while nintendo is at it add some swearing and occasional carjacking and hooker beatdowns.
an please give mario a mac-10 that he carries in his plumber boxers, with his jeans sagging off
his ass.

[DaBadGuy]

Heck even Sessler liked the game and he's an angry old man.

[zanzibarlegend]

yeah he's energetic, but dude he's super smart and knows his shit.

[XactGamer]

I think what she means is the big heads and clown feet. It's a Mario game and it's been the same great fun everyone grew up on. A rated T/M Mario game will never be made outside a mod. LOL could you imagine Assassins Creed Bro's, Battlefield Bad Mario, or Resident Mario?

[spartan_dx]

< Drives down the country makes a turn to fanboyland USA.

>Makes U-turn and speeds away wondering if chick voice from gps was making a fool of him.

[madpuppy]

I am not too partial to games like Mario myself, I am not knocking the game, I just prefer other genre's over cartoon platformers.

[tiamat5]

This why games like Mario barely ever change. There will always be some @$$ making the same excuse every year 'it's not that bad', 'story doesn't matter', 'graphics don't matter', thanks for making the exact same game with a shorter campaign and 2 extra guns'. 'What's that?' ' Bend over for you? "sure, i love the giant screw you use on me ". These companies must laugh their @$$es off when they hear these people desperately defending and rationalizing everything they do.

[Invader_Quirk]

"It's not that bad"

Nobody is saying this. They are saying "10/10".

[Invader_Quirk]

Why is this woman's opinion news?

[CDbiggen]

yawn, more opinion based crap. Who cares?

[HumanStark]

If only Super Mario was a cover-based shooter with regenerating health and said bad words. That's what the kids today want.

[TwistedMetal]

Look at early super Mario games like super Mario bros 3 etc and not even they had stuff as kiddish as baby story book galaxy stuff. You have to admit that the kiddish/ babyish stuff is more aparent in mario games this generation then past generations. If you had to choose which Mario game was for younger people and would appeal to baby's you would pick mario galaxy series with the child book story and cuteness art style.

Back in the day mario used to be bad arsness. The mario games today dont have that bad arness like super mario 64, super mario 3, super mario bros. one reason is because now there are games that are more mature.

The mario games of the past were all neutral appeal and neutral graphics design for the time.

ratchet and clank is cartoony but not kiddish, sly coover is cartoony but not kiddish, jak and dexter are cartoony but not kiddish, sonic is cartoony but not kiddish. The stuff in those games dont make me be like what the heck Im not 3 years old.

I actually find Morgan Webb pretty attractive and I would hit that in a second lol. she gots that strong jaw but its perfect to give a facial if you know what I mean.

[Kisama]

Until she gets into the porn industry, I don't care about anything Morgan Webb related.

[chiwoo]

i hear the game is pretty challenging too but who cares what she says this game will sell millions and i will be picking up my copy later this month.

[unknownhero1123]

it's mario for frak sakes! it's aimed for younger gamers but still enjoyable for mature gamers as well(for most people anyways). the day mario succumbs to realism is the day that hell freezes over.

[DigitalAnalog]

Does she expect graphics like THESE?

-End statement

[XactGamer]

That image was kinda creepy.

[BannedForNineYears]

I don't see why people care about what she says.
Adam and Morgan don't write the review you know?

[Crazybone126]

G4 really needs to just cancel X-Play, fire Morgan Webb, and give Adam Sessler his own TV Show. They should just make a television oriented Sessler's Soapbox. Adam actually knows what he's talking about when it comes to video games. This proves what i've always thought. Morgan Webb was only hired to be on G4 to be a "figure head." She's retarded. And NOT actually a gamer. Adam on the other hand ALWAYS has a totally different and actual opinion. When on X-Play, he just agrees with everything Morgan says and goes according to script. When on the Soapbox, he tells it like it is.

[unworthyBOZO]

Everybody has been saying that forever its the same on AOTS Olivia Munn is the same she was just hired for her looks and doesn't know jack shit about tech.

[Miacosa]

Its a childish game but people can play it just because not everyone holds the same opinion as you does not make them wrong.

[ChickeyCantor]

Ok sure...and how will this make me stop enjoying the game?

[JJFNIGHTS80]

I watch Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler all the time on G4. And the ratings they keep giving certain games even like Mario low score please Morgan. Just beacuse you say it's too cartoony? WTF is she talking bout? She probably just doesn't like Mario that's why she says it. MARIO is a legend sells more units then some franchise "in my opinion don't know the sales though". She needs to stop bashing some games. I think I'm going to stop watching her show and continue watch ATOS.

[unworthyBOZO]

G4 is such a joke I don't know why people watch them.

[YoungKingDoran]

shes just trying to sound cool, but to ME, its coming off as pathetic. i dont like seeing mario bashing, i (and most other gamers) spent alot of our childhood playing and loving mario games, its something we've all got in common.

[chiwoo]

what was we playing before playstation came out? yes SNES and sega genises mario dosent need to change at all i still love mario to this day plus mario 64 is one of the greatest mario games ever. so she says to cartoony all mario games are.

[Michael-Jackson]

Does she like Ratchet and Clank more? well it has guns.

[N4BmpS]

That's what she was talking about really, I guess she's played so many other games with more action. At least that's what I got from the discussion.

[Areeb11]

Even me being a complete Sony fanboy am inherently attracted to Mario.. why?
cuz when Im done bashing the living hell out of olympian gods or playing mw2.. I want something that is light, yet enjoyable in the true sense of the word!
Sure mario is generic, but lets face it, a lot of GREAT games are; MW2 for example..

[silvacrest]

isn't this how mario has always been?

does she suddenly expect it to be more mature all of a sudden?

[Shendow]

It is to cartoony, but most Wii games are like that an that is what makes it sell well. I mean most games on the Wii are so family base that any kids mom or dad would buy them a game for their Wii.

Now is it a bad thing for Mario games to be to cartoony, well if it sells well then why stop? COD sells because it is really the only war base game (Base off of more real weapons and real wars on some of them) and Halo sells good because of great story an never ending gameplay.

[theonlylolking]

GO MORGAN WEB! Although Super mario glaxy 1 should not have been bashed but galaxy 2 should have.

[AJBACK2FRAG]

At least G4 is giving Olivia Munn's mom some work...

[Vgameman]

She pretty much wants the game to be like this...

http://www.newgrounds.com/p...

[Mamajuana]

Mario has been cartoony for the past almost 30 years and is an icon in the video game world and beyond. Even people who don't play video games know who Mario is. Why should he change now?

[earthbounding]

People tend to misinterpret the term "family game", somehow relating to "casual" gamers playing it only, and not gamers of any type, as the term suggests. There's a reason why SMG2 is, I dare say, the most critically acclaimed game this generation. I have a PS3 too, so I can get a good idea of what to compare it to, and it's a top-notch title in the middle of all that shovelware Nintendo created. It deserves its score. Having a PS3 and a Wii is the best deal.

[NumeroUno]

Lame...

[ATi_Elite]

Mario Galaxy 2 is too cartoony just like Battlefield Bad Company 2 is too violent.

Crypt Keeper oops I mean Morgan Webb just STFU already.

[Speed-Racer]

She's hot when she isnt talking.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I have to agree with her. I just can't be bothered playing yet ANOTHER Mario game where the only difference is that you're on spheres. Whatever happened to innovation or progression?

[NumeroUno]

Then...don't play it? Mario has ALWAYS been the same thing. Why fix what isn't broken?

[Dayngls]

i have no interest in this game, i just wanna say that morgan webb is a dumbass. her and the whole g4 network suck. that is all

[N4BmpS]

Really? Really? Well there is no accounting for taste or opinion but I would have to say your opinion sucks. I would have to say are some of the the best journalist I know of. But that's just my opinion.

[Dayngls]

no way! they are terrible..if its not on xbox 360 then they dont bother with it. they are so bias toward the 360 its ridiculous.

[N4BmpS]

Was this so horribly interesting interesting that it had to be placed on N4G? My God are gaming journalist celebrities now? Are we getting paid to post things from various websites and creating a bit of controversy (aka flamewars)? Do you know the muffin man? Not the point, this article didn't even have to be here is my point.

Pretty bad when gamers on the net want to express their opinion, bitch, whine, moan and complain about games they have or don't have or don't like then all of a sudden a journalist comes and say she understands why it's popular but it's too cartoony to her some people have a problem.

EDIT oh and I have to add this I love how the video was scaled down to 3:03, so you don't get the entire discussion. Lmao.

[Djinn]

I agree with Webb. Mario games suck, especially Galaxy. Extremely overrated. A stupid game for little kids.