Alan Wake Runs at 720p - Confirmed via Remedy

Earlier this evening, it was reported on NeoGaf that upcoming Microsoft Xbox 360 exclusive, Alan Wake, was only running at the resolution of 547p -- which will be sub-HD levels. Well, to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

Guess they were talking to fast on that other thread haha. What is your excuse now yall??????????????????????

"Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved."

CASE CLOSED.

EDIT @ alpha-male

Well there was another thread talking bout Alan Wake was running somewhere around 546P and some fanboys were having a party on that thread celebrating some fake news haha.

[Joule]

WAR!!!!

[Smkt]

http://forum.alanwake.com/s...

yup.. check out ADM's post...

[ClownBelt]

I would seriously laugh my ass off if this is wrong and the CM of Alan wake is caught lying.

Edit. Lmao. It seems Mazingerdude is the one lying...Whoopsie daisy...

Status: Currently waiting for next installment of "The Resolution Battle"

[Serjikal_Strike]

now did it......

[THE MAX SPEED 21]

bubbles natsu.

[SnuggleBandit]

720p native or upscaled?? Not that it matters but they aren't the same thing...

[young juice]

i bet this wont get as many degrees as the first story

[soxfan2005]

I figured as much.

Never saw a thread reach over 100 comments before reaching approval/fail approval.

Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true.

[Whut]

wow ps3 fanboys got shut down fast.

[sid4gamerfreak]

ouch. lol at the ps3 fanboys, look whos talkin now...

Bu..bu alan wake is 576p confirmed!!!!!!
Im laughing my as* off!!!!

He who laughs last laughs the longest...

[-Alpha]

Wait, what did I miss? Anyone have a link to this "other thread"? PS3 fanboys, like all fanboys, are completely arrogant, but the difference is PS3 fanboyism is allowed on this site. I can't believe people take pleasure in seeing a game fail or do bad, it's just sad. The fact that anybody would mock a game or take pleasure in seeing it fail shows a really pathetic and juvenile side to gamers.

Alan Wake is looking swell. Really interested to see how it does.

It's also funny to see that people will hide behind disagrees once they appear to get owned, hence the massive onslaught of disagrees for Natsu. Hiding behind disagrees only makes you look like cowards. Can't use words then you prove you can't use your brain. If Natsu was wrong come out of hiding and prove him wrong.

EDIT: Only ONE self-proclaimed PS3 fanboy showed his face on the comment board and not one other has dared to retaliate. Everybody is hiding behind disagrees, this is disgraceful.

[littletad]

Either way, it's a great looking game. Can't wait. Don't see what the big deal is with comparing this to Uncharted 2. Kind of silly. Enjoy the games, period.

[infamousinfolite]

I say "Are you guys happy this game isn't 576p?"

[blackmagic]

whew

Edit @natsu: here's the thread, talk about ravenous bashing!

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

[cry from the sky]

the fans were bashing it, now its 720p! thats great! just because the 360 is not quite up there with ps3's graphics and some games, dosent mean the 360 cant produce something special. peace everyone, and good gaming.

[Kareshi_X]

Look at all the disagrees natsu is getting. This only proves he's right and they were wrong.

bwaah bwahh cry babies.

[DeepInterludium]

Has Digital Foundry been wrong in the past?

I remember people arguing against DF for analyzing FFXIII based on low res captures and FFXIII 360, and that turned out to be true.

[Noctis Aftermath]

It's hard to say whos right or wrong, in time the truth shall be revealed.

Also, the guy who stated this is the Community Manager and not a developer, don't take his words as gospel.

[Lionhead]

I dislike Natsu but the disagrees are funny lmao

The guy who submitted the other article got dealt with pretty fast though :D

[-Alpha]

Natsu has not once been challenged on what he said, he's just been getting disagrees by obvious raged fanboys. Just goes to show you how bad the PS3 fanboys are hurt. Once again, disagrees show cowardice and butthurt, not that what a person says is wrong.

Should have kept their words soft and sweet because now they have to eat them. This is why you shouldn't be a hateful fanboy, plain and simple. Learn to appreciate this business instead of trying to burn it to the ground with hate.

[Bigpappy]

PS3 fanboy have sobered up and the music is now all violins (No more load guitar and heavy drums). What's the lesson for the day boy and girls. Looks like you might have to wait and see it Natal fails to start partying again. You guys just love to hate on 360 do yah. I promise you will get another chance.

[Gue1]

oh man what a party pooper...

[Natsu X FairyTail]

Thanks for all the support guys. Bubbles to every True gamer here who stood up for me.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Especially in the comments from the fanboys, Incoming:

[Silly gameAr]

@sid4gamergeek

Are you bi polar?

"lol, alan wake runs in 576p? Really? That was a suprise...

/sarcastic

Oh, and u ps3 guys shouldnt be laughing its not like u ppl play in true hd either. Still though, better than the 360 gamers atleast..

The one and true hd platform is the PC..."

Your words. You were in on it too.

[-Alpha]

We'll have to wait and see. But the point is, why do PS3 fanboys WANT Alan Wake to look bad? It's pathetic. People shouldn't be hoping for games to fail.

"Kinda like turn10 said forza3 is the definitive racer, kinda like square enix said both ff games are completely identicle, kinda like ms said they fixed rrod. It's called a loop hole"

how is that anything like this where people took pride in a 360 game not being in HD? Do you mean when 360 fanboys tried to act as if those games were better when the competition hasn't come out? Because you are right: Calling Forza better than GT was just like this situation. 360 fanboys ate up the arrogance of T10.

Also, please don't try to pin the "war" on Xbox gamers. I remember fondly how the Xbox was laughed at for even entering the console industry much like how Sony was laughed at for entering against Nintendo. It's not as if fanboys popped up first on the Xbox console. The Xbox, like the Playstation earned its fans by attracting players. Many Xbox fans came from either the Playstation or Nintendo, so don't try blaming them for "Starting" anything when fanboyism has always existed.

All it takes is one person on any side to dislike the competition for childish reasons to get people started. You act as if there is an official "First Fanboy comment comes from Xbox gamer" page somewhere on the internet.

PS3 fans were being hateful here, and there was no need for it.

[Slimshadyn]

Graphics still look good though so I don't really mind. Graphics wont make the game be good or bad.

Hm... didn't you just post this not too long ago... Weird you posting in an article solely based on a games graphics.

[mikeslemonade]

We still don't know for sure. Is the game going to be native 720p when it releases? Is it actually 547p and than upscaled to 720p?

Most games aren't 720p native exactly so that sounds kind of fishy. The game still looks average as we see more gameplay footage. It's going to be another "splinter cell". You zealots always make a big deal just because you have an exclusive.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

Dude. Dont come at me with Wack Responses like you just did. If you want to discuss bring some good stuff to the table.

1st-You have to put QUOTE marks to what I wrote in that last Article.

2nd- Is gaming only about graphics? No it's not. And how you gonna dare come at me talking that obviously BS crap when you had 100 PS3fanboys in that other article bashing the xbox360 and saying stupid stuff and now that there's proof that completely destroying the dumb stuff they were saying you still try to point your finger at me? As if I'm the bad guy in this thread? Cowards.

get real dude all you ps3 fanboys were wrong. Get off my Case now.

[Slimshadyn]

I'm a PS3 fanboy how? Did I mention anything about the PS3 or 360 in this article or the other? I just find it funny when people are complete hypocrites. Sorry if I called you out for being the hypocrite you are. Oh, and they aren't QUOTE marks, they're quotation marks.

[Redrum059]

You make a valid statement but I will say that I don't remember fanboys in the gens before, I had all three consoles and believe it or not, the gamecube was my fav but I had no hate towards the other two.I actualy don't hate the xbox360 but I despise the xbox fanboys. The reason why ps3 fanboys wanna see it fail is because the xbox fanboys try to use it to dumb down a ps3 exclusives. I started to notice fanboyism wen all ps3 is dead articles were in every single website. Yes I have a 360 and I did enjoy it but not as much now, why, because after my second rrod, I decided to go for the ps3 and seek the 360 again after the rrod was solved. Then all of a sodden all the hate and attacks came out. "your stupid for paying 600 for that sh*t" and "stupid a** now u can't play real games" so much of that force me to see the flaws of the 360, now I can't help but notice the short games, subhd graphics, the loudness, the scratching disks. I'll tell you one thing, I was visiting n4g long since last gen and I don't recall anyone talking about sells, you know that time wen games were good and weren't dumbed down.

[-Alpha]

First of all, I respect the fact that you take your time to make sensible responses. bubbles to you. We don't have to agree with each other but people on here never debate or care to have good conversations. It's all smoke and mirrors with bubbles and disagrees.

Second, fanboyism last gen was toned down but that's because the PS2 was clearly superior in what it had. Also, the internet was just growing for gaming groups. It's nothing like today where the Xbox has managed to establish themselves and where the Playstation brand has fallen from its old glory days as King. It's sent Sony fans in serious denial and MS fans in serious offensive overdrive with the "Sony is dead" nonsense.

"The reason why ps3 fanboys wanna see it fail is because the xbox fanboys try to use it to dumb down a ps3 exclusives"

Well the same can be said for 360 fanboys wanting to see Sony fail. But it shouldn't have to be like that. I think it's shameful that users I know on this site were involved in making fun of Alan Wake. People should know better than to hate on games because they hate fanboys. There is no reason for people to BE fanboys anyway. Just because 360 fans make fun of PS3 doesn't mean PS3 fans should do the same. Fighting fire with fire is what keeps this circle going.

"I started to notice fanboyism wen all ps3 is dead articles were in every single website."

I think those claims had a lot of propaganda and scare in them, but not all of it was by 360 fanboys: sure, they probably WANTED it to fail and laughed at the idea but PS3 fans themselves were concerned. Sony was reporting terrible losses with the PS3 and Sony as a whole were suffering. There was ever bit of rational reasoning to worry about Sony no matter who you were.

I don't see much difference between the consoles. PS3 graphics may be better but the 360 still has great graphics. I find that Single Player games are better on PS3 while the Multiplayer games are better on 360. It was like that last gen too. I've been a long time PS3 owner and recently got a 360 3 weeks ago. I worry about the shoddy hardware and dread paying for LIVE but it's a good console overall and I enjoy the exclusives because I enjoy games.

"you know that time wen games were good and weren't dumbed down."

I blame three things: 1) Fixation on graphics, 2) Casual gamers, 3) Greedy publishers/developers like Activision

PS3 is to blame for the first one, Nintendo for the second, and MS for the third.

[Redrum059]

Ok, you've got me, there is nothing I can say that will debate with your comment. But I will say one thing, you got me cornered with a nonfanboyish comment and it's the few ppl like yourself that make me see how biasd my comments are. Comments like yours make me wanna be opened minded in gaming like I used to be, but don't flatter yourself, your wise comments will very soon be over shadowed and forgotten by the thousand fanboy comments that have yet to arive. And I still hate xbox fanboys. Lol

+bubbles

[Traveler]

What is this absurd obsession with game resolutions?

Resolution has probably the smallest impact on the visual quality of the games we play. MGS4 was sub-HD, as was Halo 3, and neither of them suffered because of it. I have compared them to other full 720p games and I don't think the resolution makes any significant difference. Neither of them look appreciably "soft", "fuzzy" or lacking in definition.

I'm not saying that resolution doesn't matter, but the fact is, it has among the smallest impact on game graphics. Textures, lighting, geometry, art, post processing effects and many other graphical elements have a far, far bigger impact on a game's visual quality. Many times you can't even tell when a game is sub-720p, so why does it even matter?

It's just one more stupid talking point for pathetic, lost fanboys to argue over.

[green]

I really don't understand this resolution obsession all of a sudden this gen. If there was no beyond3d or digital foundry to tell you that a game runs at 720p, 576p or 1080p native, will you know? And if you found out that your most anticipated game runs sub HD and you did not buy it because of that, then you are a freaking idiot.

A poster pointed below that his PC runs Half-life 2 at 1080p native but plays Crysis at 720p but Crysis still looks light years better. As long as it looks good and plays good then that should be all that matters. Alan Wake can run at 100p for all i care. As long as it looks the way it does on mh TV, i don't care.

Fanboyisim is killing this site and if it is not resolution fights its to be freaking spoiling games for people.

[Hank Hill]

As far as the fanboys go, both sides are insecure and hurt. The PS3 fanboys are insecure and hurt by the fact that the PS3 isn't #1 this time and the Xbox fanboys are insecure and hurt that they can't keep up with the PS3 in graphics and exclusives. The PS3 fanboys are hoping to outsell the Xbox as soon as possible and the Xbox fanboys are always paranoid at the fact that at any day some of their "exclusives" can and probably will be announced for the PS3. I don't know, I'll never understand why they care so much.

[WildArmed]

well GTA also ran on 720p.. just not natively.

Either way, I'm looking forward to AW.

[Akagi]

Wow, Natsu. That's pretty sad. Everyone knew it'd be 720p, but HD doesn't make a good game.

Don't get too excited.

[Chris399]

The community manager says nothing about the game's native resolution. There is a difference. And that Beyond-3D guy is never wrong. You should read what's going on at the Beyond-3D forums if you want to be really informed. Sounds like Remedy had a sh!t fit and is doing damage control.

And really, who cares if the game looks good anyhow? Is it unreasonable that to add all sorts of lighting and dithering effects that Remedy had to lower the resolution?

I'll be picking this up regardless. Hell, I've been having a blast with Infinite Undiscovery on the ol' Box lately - and people universally lauded that game as average.

And do I know what resolution IU is at? No idea. But it looks pretty damn sweet on my newish t.v.. The first few occasions I played it - as I've shelved the game on and off - was on an older 720p set; it did not have the same visual fidelity at all. A good display set can work wonders on image output quality, as can the work that the developers have put into the code. I'd be willing to bet that Infinite Undiscovery isn't 720p, but it looks great regardless (it also runs with very little of the purported slowdown if you install it to the hard-drive, fyi).

[tripewire]

Lol. Oh haileth the messiah, A game that doesnt run at sub-HD resolutions on the 360.

You think PS3 users care that one game out of literally dozens runs at a decent resolution? Yes, it would have been hilarious if another one of Microsofts most hyped titles looked like balls (im looking at you SC:conviction) but does it hurt anyone in any way that FINALLY the 360 gets a half decent peice of code? Nope.

Funny. The guys Ive met on live tonight have all been level headed and kinda cool. Glad I've not bumped into any of the fanboys on this site yet.

[raztad]

People need to take it easy. There is a more than a chance the guy from DF found the true about AW native res. It seems the guy is confident because native resolution is not changed by capture methods. It makes some sense, I've read there is a huge edram limitation, that prevents a game to have 4xMSAA and run at 720p simultaneously. Should you care? I would say no, game looks great.

[EvilBlackCat]

Get a damn fncking life and Grow up!
Be a Gamer and not a Console Brand slave minion!

[Christopher]

I really don't care too much since it looks good enough for me. But, having said that, all truths will be revealed once the game is released. I'm glad that they're officially saying it's 720p because we really don't need another reason for PS3 fanboys to discredit a good game as being a good game.

[Dude420]

This is sad, really sad, is this what fanboys have come to nowadays? They must lack ability to think. When I saw the article on AW running at 576p, I called BS on it. The guy even tried to make an excuse saying that the video capture didn't have an impact on the resolution. Seriously, go find a game on youtube that's blurry as hell and is available in 720p, then come back and tell me you know its native resolution.

When I watched the first 10, second 10 minute videos, I could tell right away that there is some blurriness caused by the video capture itself, not the game.

When I looked at the onslaught of PS3 fanboy comments in the other thread yesterday, I was seriously laughing and facepalming because nobody there questioned the claim. Stop trying to cling on to hope by saying "Bu...bu, maybe it's t3h upscaled!" Forget it, you were fooled, blinded by your own ultimate bias and hatred, dumbfounded, destroyed, raped and pretty much owned.

This fanboy war seriously needs to stop, ON BOTH SIDES. IMO this site has gotten progressively worse and it's just sad that fanboys will resort to hatred no matter what to make their console look good. Like when a site before sent out really bad shots of GOW3 (not the game itself), all the 360 fanboys flocked to it and tried to downplay the game, but GOW3 looks phenomenal.

Anyway, I'm done my rant, I just felt I needed to say it after what happened yesterday and today.

[Shaman]

Game is sub-hd,compression does not change native res of game.

[vhero]

Lets see shall we when its released my bet is its 720p upscaled like every other 360 graphically intense game. The 360 has trouble handling true hi-def graphics so Alan Wake would be a first if this true but it is most likely upscaled. I mean S-E said FFXIII on 360 was 720p and confirmed it and we all know that was a lie.. As did Bungie with Halo 3.. Though to be fair like I said in my other comments if you really care that much for it to effect your purchase you don't deserve to play quality games anyways as your nothing but a fanboy.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Interesting that he doesn't say NATIVE 720p.

The HD screenshots we've seen are blurry as heck, though, so maybe it is native 720p with a bunch of cheap corner-cutting techniques like blur filters.

[Carlton Banks]

So its a community manager, not the devs themselves? Um okay.

[MNicholas]

Confirmed by the famed Quaz51 of beyond3d who's pixel-counting is accepted by all sites.

Naturally, some are wondering why, since they're using 2 tiles anyway, they would chose 540P with 4xAA rather than 720P (1280x720) and 2xAA.

The answer is simple.

By rendering 44% fewer pixels you almost double the shader power available per pixel. In addition, 4xAA will smooth out the jaggies better than 2xAA, the 360's excellent upscaler will minimize artifacts when stretching to 720P output, and the only drawback vs 720P/2xAA is a slight softening of the image from being lower res. In an atmospheric game like this that might even be good thing.

Disappointingly, the textures and shaders are still not quite as good as Uncharted 1 which ran at 720P.

[4Sh0w]

I always know their will be some flamebait on n4g, but when I woke up, I certainly didn't expect to see Remedy having to "confirm" anything about Alan Wake, YES the game is easily one of the best looking if not the best looking games on a console= its subjective, but why can't people just relax and give credit where credit is due?

"The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved.

As has said before Videogameszone and Gamepro both released footage without approval and due to the fact that we don't know how many compressions their videos went through or what process they took it's best not to use those videos as sources."

#1 When a game has great lighting, great art design, tons of attention to detail with 4xAA and so much production value I doubt anyone here could tell the difference between 574p and 720p without 500x zoom and to count pixel.

#2 Resolution is not the be all, end all of graphic's, there are native 1080p resolution games this gen that look very average, Sega's tennis game is one I can think of at the moment= not even close to the best looking games this gen, hell Madden, 2k basketball games all look better. In the end there are many aspects that make graphics look good= and thats exactly WHY its so subjective judging graphics.

#3 Its unbelievable how many people in this thread http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/... it seems just couldn't wait to jump on the hate parade for this game= WOW, really showed their true colors, pretty embarrassing because the truth is Alan Wake's in-game visuals are nothing short of superb and even if it were 574p or whatever that's all that should matter, in other words WHY should it matter what "tricks" a dev uses to bring us beautiful visuals as long as the end result is impressive. Now I'm just glad Remedy responded so those who were saying 4xAA with 720p was impossible can shut up, either way I don't care so much if a pixel is out of place in Alan Wake, YES I'm going to buy the game because it looks like the most amazing graphics on a console but by far the biggest reason I'm going to buy the Alan Wake is because I can tell Remedy has poured their heart and soul into this game and it looks like its going to be one helluva ride.

[VINNIEPAZ]

DAMN N4PS3G fanboys got shut down fast. Here are some quotes from the intellectual minds for PS3 Fanboys.

Nathan123 - "Moral of the story: Don't f*ck with PS3 heavy weights and hype your games to death."

Method - "Microsoft: "We don't need Blu-Ray" What a joke!"

Hi-def freak - "so much for comparing to uncharted 2! Teh blu ray iz not needed;)"

mikeslemonade - "Yep I told you so! We actually see some larger gameplay screens and the game looks barely better than GTA4. Xbox zealots don't have an eye for things. They make a big deal about any exclusive."

I love the part were mikeslemonade says "They make a big deal about any exclusive" LOL Like PS3 fanboys didn't brag like UC2 and GoW3 were the second coming of Christ.

And he goes on to say, "Alan Wake is an overated game so stop overhyping it." Really? Can I go in ya time machine with you next time to go into the future so I can play it to make a FAIR judgment for myself?

Any fanboy that wants a system/game to fail is sad. Arent we here to play games? So why would you want something to fail. Stop hating and open ya minds to new things for Christ sake.

[wicko]

So because a COMMUNITY MANAGER said so, without any actual proof, that's case closed? C'mon... the guy who checked this out was right about a ton of other games, I think I would go with his word (and proof) over a community manager's. But we'll see when the game is released.

[HolyOrangeCows]

It's amazing how willing people are to listen to PR tell them a game plays in 720p (He didn't say NATIVE 720p....cough, cough, probably upscaled, cough, based on blurry shots we've seen and lack of realtime HD footage, cough).

EDIT: LOL, look at all the 360 fanboys who didn't question the other article for a second, suddenly pretend like anyone who believed the other article is some sort of idiot.

[FA-SHO]

1 720p game and all the xbots are FREAKIN OUT. Sony's had these for awhile guys CALM DOWN.

[ThanatosDMC]

That's sad that they have to talk about if it's 720p. It's like they expect 360 games not to be 720p native. Shouldnt we expect game of this gen to be at least 720p all ready?

[Inside_out]

Comes out in a couple of wks...judge then...easily one of the best looking games this generation of gaming....wait and see...

[Noctis]

Alan is HAWT :)

[Dee_91]

lol nothing better than seeing fanboys get proven wrong .. well u cant blame them they had false info is all

[Hiruma Youchi]

stupid droids were talking out their asses once again.

[Zero 007]

Buhahahahahaha

[infamousinfolite]

You should really start doing what we do DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND when certain articles like that come up. But anyway, Welcome back!

[HolyOrangeCows]

Enjoy this article while you can, xbots. When it's confirmed that Alan Wake doesn't play in NATIVE 720p, you'll be right back were you started.

It's always funny to see bots huddle up to some good PR BS opposed to a creditable third party who discovered the res of the 360 versions of FF13 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

[playstation_clan]

or wasnt final fantasy 13 576p, and that was on the ps3 but a 360 exclusive gets 720p.

Well, it might look better than uncharted ONE! but thats a big might

[Zero 007]

check AW support 720p
http://forum.alanwake.com/s...

Alan wake answer all PS3 graphics Buhahhahahahhaha

PoorStation 3 cant handle AW graphics Confirm by SONY

i cant stop laughing Buhahahahhaahaha

[Lionhead]

Oh you replied on your main account this time.

Did the-warriors get banned? :(

[GiantEnemyCrab]

That other thread will be saved in the vault of "ultimate ownage" here on N4G. I see some stocks plummeting.

I'm still not %100 convinced until I hear it from a Remedy dev but if it does get further confirmed it will be funny as hell.

@Lionhead: Amen! Back at you! Haters be damned!

[Lionhead]

Who cares lol

Alan Wake looks epic, resolution and graphics don't matter to me. Pixel counters can do what they want. After 5 years+ of waiting nothing can stop my excitement.

+Bubs for GEC :D

Please give me more disagrees, Zero and his multiple account make 2 and then the PS3 fanboys who dislike me liking Alan Wake and giving GEC a bubble. lol

[awesomeperson]

Umm just to let you know, supporting a certain resolution has NOTHIGN to do with how good the graphics are.

By that logic, GT5 Prologue which runs in 1080p should look better then almost all games, including Uncharted 2 and GoW3. Is that the case? No.

By the way most PS3 games, if not all, run in 720p, its the NORMAL thing for this gen.

[RagTagBnd445]

@Above
GT5 prolouge is not 1080p it is 1280x1080 in game, and a bit higher in replays.

[Madis007]

Same said about Modern Warfare 2 is on Xbox 360 720p but then it came out and it was 600p

Same was with GTA 4.
Oh wait. Splinter cell said game is 720p but this is not 720p.

Xbox 360 developers are saying its 720p but when you play this game and make ingame screenshot then its not 720p.

[Inkless]

shat, can i delete this?

[i3eyond the Circle]

Stab.

Microsoft and Remedy should file a suit and get that GamePro branch in check.

How can a professional journalism site leak before the embargo? I thought only no name sites who download torrents do that bs.

Screw gamepro.de

even though the footage was awesome >.>

[ape007]

and im telling you the game has some of the best gfx I've seen in a videogame

the size the effects the lightning, the amount of detail is unbelievable

in my opinion I think that AW is in the same league graphically as kz2, uc2 and gow3, Im not saying better,I still have to see it myself but it's definitely up there with the best(gfx)

now look at the game itself, the game looks like a true-blue killer, it reminded me when I first saw Resi4 on gamecube backthen

Im shocked, alan wake is THE SH!T

[MetalGearBear]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! xbots is bragging!!!!!
please go back to your mom's house and be mature.

[ELite_Ghost]

They bragging about 720p LOL. "YES 720P THATS LIKE OUR 4TH 720P THIS GEN!!!"
That's the basic resolution this gen anything under is unacceptable...

Last time I checked ps3 is ALWAYS ahead, we're getting 3d in under 2 months...

[JRisburning]

I will continue to play Devil's advocate....

Besides, Onion had to be a bad sourpuss, and lock the thread. :D

[NinjaSp33d]

sweeet

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I dunno. I would sure like to hear it from a developers mouth. Or at least know the the ADM/CM actually talked to the studio and confirmed.

This Magazinedude has been correct in the past..

Still doesn't matter.. I'm going to enjoy it and think it looks great no matter the resolution..

And MattyF gets the hit! =)

[alphakennybody]

Even if he's just covering it up, he can't just say"yes we promised you 720p, but that was for pc only. We're sorry that we lied". after promising an eye candy, you can't go back on your words just like that.

[booni3]

all that CONFIRMED nonsense and now the hordes of ps3 fanboys touting that 527 claim have been brutally slaughtered in one fell swoop. Let the war continue....its good to own both =)

[Biggest]

The SD "confirmation" came from a forum via a guy that many people know and trust. The HD "confirmation" came from a forum via a guy that no one but the people that know him personally know and trust. And that one is a real-er confirmation. Nice.

[DaffyD]

"The SD "confirmation" came from a forum via a guy that many people know and trust. The HD "confirmation" came from a forum via a guy that no one but the people that know him personally know and trust. And that one is a real-er confirmation. Nice."

Alan Wake community is Remedys own forum in Remedy web page and admin (ADM) is always Remedy employee (if I remember correctly Sami Järvi (Sam Lake) has write some of ADM comments). Also many other Remedy employees write to this forum to Alan Wake fans (and Max Payne fans in Max Payne thread).

Problem in this isn't that NeoGaf would count pixels wrong, but that he did use screenshots from Videogameszone and Gamepro, which aren't official material and those images are captured in 960x540 mode.

[Ju]

It's irrelevant how they capture the image. They count real native pixels and their aspect ratio and interpolate the native resolution out of it. As long as there is a clear single pixel, this method is accurate. It would not work if a downsampling would distort single pixels, which is not the case with these shots.

[Homicide]

The PS3 fanboy parade is over.

[infamousinfolite]

lol yea but that was some funny stuff though. HORDES/MOUNTAINS of PS3 fanboys came coming in all directions.

[LordMarius]

i missed it :/

[Software_Lover]

And I miss the quickest epic shutdown in internet history!!!!!!

I posted in the earlier thread earlier. Watched a movie then came back and saw this one. This is getting hilarious!!!!

**********note*************** **********************

Forum posts should not be allowed to be posted as "gaming news" on N4g. I think we should just stick to proven websites for the most part.

[Biggest]

Its funny that you say that when this new confirmation is from. . . A forum. I'm going to stand by my statement in the LOLSD thread. Proof isn't proof until it is proof. When the actual game is released we can see if the resolution guy got one wrong. He's batting 1.000 for the moment. Maybe Alan Wake will be his first strike-out.

[NinjaSp33d]

day 1 for me cant wait till May 18th =)

[ape007]

day 1 4 me too, just shave your beard before you go to store

[snake-OO]

this kind of reminds me of square enix and FF13 fiasco.
remeber how that turned out, and they were lying out of there asses.
many companies lie before a game comes out just to guarentee sales of there products.

[stonecold1]

god of war 3 neither uncharted 2 or let alone uncharted1 even killzone 2 they all say hi even heavy rain cant be done on 360 either thats why vs and the agent are comingg to the ps3 which will never be on the flopbox

[DJKGBYF]

Don't forget MGS4.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

you fa**ot, you make no sense. GTFO

[DJKGBYF]

u mad?

[infamousinfolite]

eh, you mad.

Edit @6.3 dang! got to it before I did lol

[iNFAMOUZ1]

that you fanboys can't grow the fu** up and enjoy games

[awesomeperson]

infamouz if you can't deal with fanboyism, get off the open zone.

I can't stand people who come here, the open zone, where the whole POINT is to bash the other console, and say "Grow up, get out of your fanboyism". I find it a boredom killer at times.

[swiftshot93]

Yup, there you go

[esscx]

this was posted by the community manager not a dev...

[stonecold1]

forgot metal gear solid 4 thanks man nearly forgot that one another game cant be done on the flopbox while im at it crysis 2 on the flopbox will be 576 p confirmed

[Inkless]

Oh really?, will crysis 2 be confirmed for 576P on the ps3 as well?. We dont know, so till then shut your trap.

[chickenlegs9]

good news for the xbox indeed,just hope the sp is longer than 5 hours,still looks like alone in the dark/silent hill to me tho...

[Consoldtobots]

lol, that's called DAMAGE CONTROL

[MACADOODLE]

Who's?

[-MD-]

He's a PS3 fanboy so he's saying that Remedy is doing damage control.

[Consoldtobots]

has nothing to do with being a fanboy of any console.
This dude has been calling resolutions for quite awhile now and has NEVER BEEN WRONG. But now he's lying? THINK PEOPLE!!!!!
You're only setting yourselves up for massive ownage when the game comes out and it's confirmed that he is right.

[Dude420]

Why don't YOU think for moment there buddy. That guy who's been showing the native resolutions of certain games ACTUALLY had the game. Did you not notice that these analyzing articles were based from either having an early copy of the game or a demo?

This dude has been right in the past maybe, but now I think he's taking it too far by looking at an unapproved video captured from another site that's ACTUALLY in a low resolution. Besides, when this guy does this analysis, he usually puts up an article to talk about, not a simple forum post, something is fishy here lol.

[Convas]

It's fishy cuz He's up to something. It's a known fact that Resolution Capture Techies DO NOT make an analysis on anything other than the GAME itself.

So why then would a trusted RCT "Expert" go out of his way to analyze crappy, blurry, low resolution UNAUTHORIZED game videos? Why else. Total Gaming Meltdown. You can be assured he knows about the excitement 360 Faithfuls and the hatred/jealousy PS3 Faithfuls have over this title.

So, I call shenanigans. He did this on purpose to stir things up. That's my take.

[Dude420]

I agree clizzz, that's pretty much what I think of the situation.

[PS360PCROCKS]

As someone who doesn't get involved in your bickering, watching ya'll fight is pretty damn hilarious.

[Silly gameAr]

Sometimes it's good for laughs,but not this time. The other thread was going nuts. I figured something like this would happen.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Lol I know I read through it. It's amazing how hyped up people got when that story was posted.

[DarkTower805]

you see everyone's true colors come out in threads like this.

[MastermindPS360]

.....only people who really cared were those darn ps3 kids

uncharted 2 is on top....

killzone 2 has amazing graphics indeed but has a "meh" single player and terrible online ...so please dont mention K2. mag has online better than k2 and so does uncharted.

i own both consoles but for one article to pop up and have a 100 ps3 fanboy comments before it is even posted....to all the harcore ps3 fans on this site.....come on guys..you make sony look stupid and ignorant....plus some of you need to get help and get over your "n4g" addiction.... go on porn or something

where is the moron that took time out of his life to make a new account called

Alanwake564pconfirmed.......a hahah what a loser. <----to go that far. really makes sonys "audience" look younger than those xbox live kids (all over psn also)

but hey its n4g itll always be overrun by raging ps3 fans...they always so angry....especially that Morgan guy..

alan wake will be amazing Enjoi it

[infamousinfolite]

Yea its n4g so its to be expected when such things come up like that.

[insomnium]

The PS3 fanboys are going nuts now because everything they said has almost come true. The x360 fanboys started with their doom and gloom talk way back when the PS3 was launched (when the price was revealed to be precise).

You had the games and the sales and all that time the PS3 fans said that you shoud wait a while and let the PS3 get it's games because it's bound to happen. PS3 fans were right about BD vs HDDVD, about games, about sales (once the price comes down). What does this leave you x360 fanboys with? You've been proven wrong with facts. Now it's time to "get back" at the x360 fanboys and rub the reality to their faces.

The things were all backwards 2 years ago. You x360 fans were all so mighty and powerfull then. Now you cling to things like THIS to try and save your face from the barrage of punishment you've taken? Or sales? Please...

I don't care about AW personally. I don't have my x360 anymore and will not buy one before the thing is virtually given away (not too far off today). I have way too much games on my PS3. You guys should all go out and buy AW. It comes from Finland and so do I so that's why I encourage you to buy it :)

Many of you say about the disagrees of natsu? Why? there's only 20 something of them. Are you laughing at all the desperate hiding PS3 fans because of 20 disagrees? OMG that's pathetic.

[gijsbrecht]

For the record; you are the one who shouldn't mention KZ2 since it has amazing gameplay and MP. Please do your stealth bashing somewhere else. You're just as bad as the person whom you so perfectly described as a 'moron'. The description suits you as well.

[ape007]

that's a proof that they are not happy with the situation, their action speaks that ms is doing things so right

they have some serious insecurity issues

and yeah, they're making sony look bad, the secret of sony's success is all about quality and diversity, these guys are always gfx gfx gfx gfx gfx

they make you feel that the only thing sony got is gfx( and sony excels in this department too) , they forgot about all the glory of sony games

[OpenGL]

I hope this is true despite it being a little hard to believe. Getting it to run at 1280x720 with 4xAA will be a miracle due to the number of tiles needed and what those titles will do to the fill rate. Who knows though, if any game on the 360 can do it, it'll probably be Alan Wake.

[PS360PCROCKS]

well do the math and see what u come up with. I would but I have no clue

[sid4gamerfreak]

Agree with u man, bunch of ps3 kids make the ps3 actually look bad.
Sadly, those little kids dont realize how immature they really are.

Bubbles for you and the person who reported that 546p article as fake. We need more contributors like that...

[MastermindPS360]

people still think graphics are everything and its sad.

i wanna get that 3d dot hero game on ps3....think its graphics are good? i mean its pixels. borderlands was so much fun online and look at its graphics....these days everything is needed in a game not such one quality of graphics. and people need and should understand this.

this is why uncharted 2 is my favorite ps3 game...the story i beat uncharted 1 and 2 in one night cause thats how much it sucked me in. same with gow 3...i have a feeling alan wake will suck you in...

im just tired off everyone being so angry in this place...

bubbles to the happy people

[insomnium]

You are tired? This is the arrogance of the x360 fanboys coming back to bite them in the ass as was bound to happen. They doomed and gloomed but the PS3 fans knew things would pan out this way. Reality hurts if you were a x360 fanboy 2-3 years ago.

That's why we see software sales and pixelcounting stepping to the headlines today. X360 fans have no where else to go. They've been beaten down by reality and they just try and save face. It's quite laughable.

None of this angryness would exist if x360 fanboys would've kept their mouths shut about things that were OBVIOUSLY bound to be proven wrong.

[booni3]

if you own both consoles, its easier to be honest. Ps3 graphics have been rockin the sh*t the past year and as i hear it, AW is pioneering some new engine. i cant wait to see what it illicits from the xbox!! an HD GAMING CONSOLE!! LOL LMFAO! ALan WAke limited BOX DAY 1!!!

[chickenlegs9]

hang on...the link to this is just another website,and a chopped up sentence from a community manager?and THIS is fact???this games getting WAY too overhyped,

[-MD-]

I was playing Splinter Cell the entire time this was going on and I gotta say that this is a hilarious thing to come back to.

So many Sony fanboys with egg on their faces.

[MastermindPS360]

ahaahh im was playing SC but I saw the article earlier it was bad ahaha...

some retard created a "alwake564pconfirmed" ; account....ahah it was that bad.....all brutal blood sucking ps3 owners getting off on all their comments

i mean i have a ps3 dont get me wrong....but man my own ps3 cringed at some of the comments left....my ps3 is peaceful and hates ps3 owners who are always negative...it told me

my ps3 and 360 watch each others back...and im so glad it like that

[tripewire]

And here in lies the problem. Xbox fanboys will swear until they are blue in the face that splinter cell is a good game.

Their ability to judge quality is matched only by their gullibility in believing PR crap after PR crap.

[-MD-]

Splinter Cell is a good game.

[sid4gamerfreak]

Come on ps3 fanboys show up! Why you so scared? Hidden behind your ps3 have you? This proves that ps3 fanboys are not even manly to face it up, instead they are known as fangirls...

edit: @Silly gameAr: Why dont u shut up d-bag.You username suits you btw... Wait, whats that u say? Cant hear your comeback from all your tears...

[Silly gameAr]

Stop, you d-bag.

[Silly gameAr]

Tears? You must have me confused with someone else. But since you're so ass backwards, you would probably take an insult for a compliment so take this comment anyway you want. It's yours.

[zaz12]

you are just a xbox fanboy who claims to have a super pc

[Genki]

is how expedient this response was.

Tells me that devs and publishers have scouts actively and frequently checking N4G and the bigger boards like GAF.

We have more power in this community than we might think.

[authentic24]

Most people don't think their opinion matters. But it does especially when thay have something intelligent to say.

[authentic24]

anything a community manager says. there job is to do whatever it takes to manage the community. Lie, exaggerate etc. They rarely know whats going on when it comes to anything technical. so like I said before wait and see.... It still looks like a Alone in The Dark clone.

360: IV THA UNITY
PS3: IV_THA_UNITY

[booni3]

a ps3 fanboy and an idiot. thanks to people like him, its getting harder to tell the diffrence.

[Kors]

This doesn't prove anything. Where is the response from a Dev? All we have are Community Manager's words. By 720p did he mean 720p upscaled or native resolution?

[NMC2007]

From my experience with Community Managers(Ubisoft's Splinter Cell forums), the CM get their info from the devs, I don't think the CM can talk out of their @ss, it would make the company look bad if what they say isn't true.

[DelbertGrady]

Would you not play an awesome game if its resolution was below 720p?

[NnT3291]

I dont care too much about resolution. I mean my Crysis runs at 720p, and half life 2 runs at 1080p, does it make HL2 looks better than Crysis ?

[NMC2007]

NeoGAF, they claim to love gaming, yet they are so so quick to try and tear them apart, ah well.

[clintos59]

Im not saying that graphics matter, but as I said in the other thread that this game looked great, whatever resolution it was and the gameplay speaks for itself. Game looks really fun and creepy at the same time that I could care less if it wasnt 720p.

Only thing I pointed out was those 360 fanboys saying AW looked better then UC2. Im not trying to sound fanboyish but from what we seen, I still think UC2 looks better. I mean look how gorgeous it looks and ND wasnt even going for a realistic look.

UC2 screens
http://img694.imageshack.us...

http://img710.imageshack.us...

http://img641.imageshack.us...

http://img710.imageshack.us...

Does this make AW a bad game? Fu** NO. I myself think that AW will be an awesome game, only those who dont own a 360 will whine about it.

[Inkless]

You're comparing screen shots of a finished game/released game, AW Is not released yet. You cant really compare graphics till you have a physical copy of the game and true screen shots of the finished game.

[clintos59]

If your going to try an defend those who try an say AW looks better then UC2 without any proof, well heres evidence from me that its going to take alot for AW to achieve such a task, and dont get me started, I can bring in GOW3 shots that look even better. Not trying to be an a$$hole but stop pointing fingers at me like im the one that was talking down on AW.

Edit: Love the disagrees, why dont u be man enough to prove me wrong before crying about true facts, little nerdy a$$ cry babies.

[Hotel_Moscow]

whats with the off camera screens

http://emr8.com/portal/imag...

[PirateThom]

Talking about the resolution of unreleased games is pretty funny.

Especially when there's no demo or point of reference.

At least wait until the game comes out.

[MastermindPS360]

yeah ahaha that would be a good idea.

[-MD-]

For once Pirate I agree with you.

[Oner]

Couldn't agree more Pirate, but as I always say ~ We shall see.

Because if going by FF13, SplinterCell, Halo ODST and other recent titles it seems like MS dropping/not holding devs to a minimum requirement has started a clear snowball effect.

Hopefully Remedy will have done the right thing and are speaking the truth about 720p because if not...ooohhh boy is this gonna bite them in the @$$ something bad.

[Tony-A]

That makes one...

[datapimp]

its actually proven that yes the game is not 720p :) If some Community Manager says its 720p it must be true.

Lets see the proof, now that there are 2 screenshots show us the exact same that show/calculate to 720p.

Please please please show us, prove everyone wrong with proof. The poster already did the calculations. Now step up Remedy show PROOF that they were wrong. A community Manager is like a normal manager at work most of the time they do not understand tech and do not understand what others are doing and only understand how to uphold the community line/slogan :)

PROVE THAT AW IS 720p PLEASE!! Then this will all stop, till then its 547p :)

[Inkless]

Yeah, that poster did calculations on a 547P Video. good analysis there hurr duur.

[datapimp]

are the same people who stated that other games in the past have been sub HD titles right? Why would they make it up? All that I posted was for your beloved MS defence team to step up with the DEV and show the REAL deal!!!

Just show proof? Is that too hard? After all proof will make everyone shut up! I for one have all 3 systems. I like GAMES, what I dislike is buying something that is marketed to be a certain way and get home and am left to wonder what pile of crap that I just bought. So please as a consumer show me. Just tell me its not HD. I understand that the 360 has limitations. Especially running it in 4XAA (4 times Anti Aliasing 4 those who do not understand) I love splinter cell conviction its a 576p game. I understood it because of the same people that reviewed this screen cap.

If I want graphics I have a PS3, if I want to play child like games I have a wii and if I want to play Mass Effect I play on a 360.

AW might be a great game with its story but in the graphics department I think so far we all know that it might not be the HD 60fps game we are looking for graphically. Then again we have Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 and a list of others to play for graphics.

PLEASE REMEDY show is actual proof!

[batman2million]

Reading these comments, I feel like I'm in Elementary School again arguing about how my play-doh is better than your play-doh.

good times.

[DelbertGrady]

That will calm the nerves of all those PS3 fanboys who are eager to bash it for anything.

[claterz]

Funny that even with 720p this game still won't look as good as uncharted 2 lol.
I'm looking forward to the day gt5 comes out, when the Xbox fanboys go back to " well graphics don't mean anything! ". Just like they were saying when uncharted 2 came out =\

[Inkless]

GT5 Still looks all pre-rendered in the trailers. The game will look amazing, but nothing like the trailers put it out to be, You also dont know that AW will look nothing as close to UC2. The game hasn't been released yet.

[datapimp]

I cannot wait again. Fanboyism is awesome!!

Its like they want to go home and yell, " Mom the mean boys at school said my Xbox 360 is no good anymore <cry, sniffle> can we get a PS3"

Awesome how a puppet at Remedy says its 720p and we are all suppose to believe it. SHOW PROOF PUPPET! UC2 and GOW3 showed proof.

Puppets are the ones that are making it so that parents and the consumer are misled. Like XB360 is a HD gaming machine, wifi built in does not matter, a built in HDD is not needed, HD-DVD is the new industry standard. No game needs more that a Dual layer DVD. DVDs do not scratch. All the while the truth of the PS3 is sitting in front of them with built in wifi and a HDD and HDMI. Its crazy that puppets are running their mouths and the consumer eats it up...especially paying $50+ annually for a gold membership to Live. WOW

REMEDY show US PROOF!!!

[claterz]

I'm just saying that's how it goes. I don't KNOW if AW will have better graphics than uc2, but let's say it does, Xbox fanboys won't stop talking about it untill a ps3 title tops it. *enter GT5*. And yeh the gt5 trailers look rendered but we all know (xbots included) that it's going to set the bar for upcoming titles in terms of graphics.

[necksnappa]

720p, thats sooooo 2008, thats not even real HD. they better get with the program. my tv is 1080p and 3d ready and so is my console of choice, so they relly need to step there shizz up.

[Inkless]

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I can't stop laughing of some comments.

http://img519.imageshack.us...

[view-sonic]

i want AW for the PS3 seems like a good game

[condorstrike]

LOL, I loved this 10 minute war, so fast to bash Alan Wake that they didn't take the time to verify it was bad screen caps, I have a PS3 but gotta say PS3 fanboys are cruel, ohh and they're all about the resolution now days....

When you're trolling is bad...who you gonna call: ghostbusters!

[jkhan]

It doesn't matter what the resolution is, if the game looks this good based on screenshots and videos. In my opinion it's the first true xbox360 exclusive that really shows what 360 can do. One can only hope they would release this game for PC. Ah well I have to get it for my 360 :(

[labwarrior]

And the video looked 100x better than any game right now !!!!

So, do the math ... :)

As for neogaf and fanboys, well, these have both been owned so hard, neogaf should close down after that fiasco

BTW they forgot to add that the video is heavilly compressed too, so the game will look even better with the real HD resolution and no huge compression

Fanboys must be at the egde of madness right now, the desparation is so huge that they try to downplay the games visuals using a low resolution video, that is compressed beyond recognition too !!!!!!!

[Chromer]

It's still a Community Manager. Everyone wants to say, "OH WELL IT'S THE MANAGER FROM REMEDY SO IT HAS TO BE TRUE!"

False.

Until an actual statement is issued from a developer of Alan Wake, I'm taking this story with a grain of salt. Also, MazingerDude has been called a liar before and guess what? He ends up right in the end. So I'll just wait until this game comes out to see the truth once and for all.

[labwarrior]

Exactly as Remedy said, WOW, the game will look so vastly better than this video

Anyone can check it out easilly

BTW the DEVELOPERS of ALan Wake have confirmed 100 times that the game will run 4xAA and 720p resolution, so, get over it

It is just a super compressed, super downgraded and downscaled video from a random website

And it is not like the community manager does not know the rest of the team, they work in the same building you know, would take about 10 seconds to ask a developer in the next room

EDIT
But he used grabs from a low resolution video, upscaled to 720p, so he was expected to get that resolution, it is exactly same as the video resolution

See, he may not be wrong in the end, but in this video the resolution IS sub HD, so his "test" is 100% false and biased

Understand ? I can't trust such a "test", sorry

[Biggest]

Can you show me half of those comments, labwarrior? I just want to see 50 comments saying what you just said. How about 25? Can you give me that many?

This is exactly why the first thread happened. Now that the "facts" have been given to the fans from a forum by a guy that doesn't have anything to do with the development of Alan Wake, everything is back to the way it was. Alan Wake is the better than young Cindy Crawford naked in your living room. If the resolution guy was trying to get a rise out of fanboys with false numbers, so be it. But please do not be surprised if he was doing his job the same way he did in the past. People listen to him because he is usually right.

[Chromer]

Until I get an actual official evaluation of the game, I'm taking their word with a grain of salt. I know you're passionate about your 360 Labwarrior, but telling me to get over it when I can have my own opinion just as you have yours is pretty fanboyish.

[yakuzakazuya]

I agree with you. Both camps need to chill! We should wait until the actual game releases.

I am more concerned with Alan Wake's blurry textures and screen tearing at this moment than whatever native resolution the game is running at.

[yewles1]

I can't believe I missed this. You can practically "feel" the salty sweat from their nervous laughter going: "PHEW!!! Thank god... thank god... DIE SONY, DIIIIEEEE!!! *crumbles in tears*". XD

[electricshadow]

Buh .... buh....but it says 1080p on the back of every 360 game box! Yeah, 1080p UPSCALED maybe. Welcome to 2006, bots.

[Zulwarn]

just like gow3 m i right? rofl

[3sq]

no, just like Halo 3/ODST.. whops it's not even in 720p. rofl

[Zulwarn]

opps i forget about mgs4 thanks for reminding :)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It's a beautiful game, regardless!!!

God of War III runs at 720p...yet it's the most gorgeous console game ever made.

Why is resolution so important?

[tudors]

regards how this whole fanboy war started, firstly like you said it started a long time ago, but regards this generation I recall Phil Harrison's comments "next gen starts when we say so" followed by a console launch price that only a select group of individuals could afford, in essence I think they shut out a lot of the core gamers who were keen to purchase their console, so yes I agree with those who recall the hate brigade when the PS3 launched but I think more than anything people were bitter at the price, and then you had idiots on the net like that nerd "I have 3 PS3's, yes 3 PS3's" and what you ended up with was a elitist image of Sony and the PS3, bottom line they shut out a lot of gamers that would have been on board,

Think about it, if the PS3 is now more popular it is mainly due to price, PS2 sold over 120 million consoles, don't you think that most of those would have liked a PS3? trouble is most could not afford it, so Sony really alienated those fans, it's just my opinion but I think Sony started a lot of the hate themselves.

[Claudinho69]

wow they might finally get a 720p game....k now u guyz can know how we ps3 owners feel for a about a month or 2

[Jdoki]

This thread and the 576p Alan Wake thread really has shown off the best of each camp of fanboys.

Thanks N4G - this site is awesome, and thanks fanboys, you never fail to raise a laugh.

On topic.
Does the res of Alan Wake matter if the game looks great?

[bjornbear]

i laugh at the faces of people who think 540 or 720 or 1080 makes or breaks a game?

i could care less if any game I play is 540 or 720 so as long as its fun and looks good

sure i'd be nice to have everything looking its best but, big deal its not worth bashing a game for something SO trivial

[THC CELL]

welcome to the second shortest xbox exclusive
along side splinter cell pff

[labwarrior]

See that TRUE HD pic, from in game

http://miladesn.webs.com/21...

http://img688.imageshack.us...

http://img688.imageshack.us...

http://img688.imageshack.us...

http://img688.imageshack.us...

Well ?

[doublebass2]

They keep talking about resolutions,as if they had more than 20 games true native 1080p..in best case senario,they get the exact same thing we xbox ers get..in most case,they either have the blurry textures,lower resolution,less colours and effects,no aliasing,frame chop and in general a second rated version...they should just be happy that get some gems are licenced to ps3,from their long time developer studios (naughty dog,guerilla,polyphony..and to some extend konami and square,just to name a few,while the microsoft platform apart from bungie and rare,does nt have any studio that dates more than 8 years with the company...)which almost all of them took a hefty amount of time or money to make,while the 360 keeps getting the shaft since the graphic flagship games most usually depend on a graphics engine dated from 2004 development....Even the mighty hardware of the ps3 cant make a upscaling right..they dare talk about native resolutions...when they have aliasing and incosistent frame rate even in their exclusives..they talk about exclusives that are better...what is better?the M.assively A.troscious G.arbage game(metacritic 76/100)which is boring and plays far worse then the other 2 shooters?,..the kidzone 2,which if it did nt have he graphics it has,would be considerd an 8 at best,while they are still looking a halo killer in gameplay?resistance 1+2,a a far worse call of duty 2 wannabe with aliens?heavy rain...a tech marvel of QTE,with v-sync and crappy voice acting which last only 6-8 hours,fahrenheit was better than that..gt5,which so far the only thing that they proved is that they can make the car models better and more over the years,while maintaning the a.i.,physics,damage,customizat ion a generation back?or the mighy gow3,which while very inpresive on the visuals,is just a short hd version of the previous titles by santa monica??mgs4,with its 1024*768 something sub hd resolution,which plays 8 hours gameplay,50 hours cinematics?and dont get me started on the final fantasy 13,or 14 when it comes out since the company has nt reached the quality of their best ff7 and ff8 in terms of rpg elements,all later versions are much lesser expieriences...Only uncharted1+2 is haled and truly the only reason for someone to choose the ps3 over the 360...both in graphics,gameplay..and something that most ps3 games dont have good..multyplayer!!
maybe someone should tell all the ps3 fanboys that they did nt get an next gen console...they got a next gen player!!!

[datapimp]

As well learn how to use a comma and a period maybe some exclaimation marks would help as well.

Most of your points are fanboyism in your posting. This is all about how Alan Wake is not true 720p. Indeed the DEV says it is being pushed out at 720p but if the images are not 720p then its alas sub HD. Which given the fact that they state the XBOX OS does the rest its a given its really upscaled.

Sorry that you do not have all 3 gaming systems and that you are contributing to fanboyism on this site. PS3 has some of the best exclusives you can get this gen. However the XBOX has a few (MASS EFFECT series) but its as well coming for the PS3. Wake up and realize that you do not have to be a XBOT any longer, think for yourself and appreciate GAMING!! If a DEV lies YES its a big deal as they want you to drop 60$ (give or take) on their video game. IT'S a BUSINESS. They need to recoup money they have spent, so you are not going to hear them trash their game and say YES its SUB HD. But know this since someone has exposed that its SUB HD now you know and if you buy the game and notice some screen tearing and weird pixels you will be educated at least. Stop being a Fanboy and start being a GAMER!

[3sq]

As if MS hasn't lied to you bots before, just wait until the game come out. ;)

[Tobes]

Surely the gameplay is more important than anything.

[claterz]

Only when the graphics are sh*t.

When the graphics suck, Xbox fanboys = "It's all about gameplay! "
When the graphics are good, Xbox fanboys = " Gameplay doesn't matter! "

I'm glad I have a PS3, it can do amazing graphics and amazing gameplay, poor Xbots only get one =[

[bjornbear]

ARRRRGHHHH *melts*......

...seriously now, big deal? I expected it so, isn't 720p standard nowdays? who said it was going to be less? idiots they were...idiots

[yamzilla]

I don't put a ton of faith in a Community Manager...(read; forum moderator).

If I was a betting man I'd put my money on the first dude's statement...
Alan Wake=540p

[artsaber]

Simply because Alan Wake is supposedly 720p?! What degree of bottom of the barrel quality do we expect from 360 games when we throw a parade for a game reaching 720p? Someone please step back from the article for a minute to think about this. Weren't we ALL pretty much originally EXPECTING Alan Wake to play in 720p rez anyways? So why is this big news or a big deal now? Because it is back to the way we originally thought it would be before the 547p article came out or whatever?

360 fans are acting like 720p is some new revolutionary rez to be applied to games or something. Man you guys are bought cheap.

I know I will get disagrees, but damn, step back and look at the truth for a second. It is also funny that the same cats celebrating are the same ones who said that none of this mattered, and they'd be buying the game anyways, etc. If it doesn't matter, what's the party for?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I think much of this response is in the way the original article was handled.

It wasn't just a story posted up. This person created a spam account, began spamming the site in multiple threads and the forums.

It was over the top and embarrassing to be honest.

You came late to the party so maybe you should temper your response because you don't seem to have a clear picture.

[kewlkat007]

Fanboys looking for Ammo...pathetic gamers.

[SephireX]

I have both PS3 and 360 and I'm really looking forward to Alan Wake. I think it is the 360's biggest title this year, even bigger than Reach. I can't stand fanboyism where fanboys cling on to one console and just want to see the other console fail. Competition drives the industry and the best possible scenario is that both consoles are doing well. Everybody has their personal preferences. For example, I prefer the PS3 to 360 and think it has better games. That doesn't mean I won't change my mind or I have to hate everything about the 360. PS3 fanboys on this site are just pathetic idiots. Anyone who worships one console is an idiot full stop. All game developers are out to make money and make a return for their shareholders. Even though M$ do use greedy tactics at times, when it comes down to it, both Sony and M$ are very similar. They're both profit-making corporations and therefore there isn't any great reason to chose one console over the other because of who develops it. Anyway, I personally think Alan Wake will be a great game and I hope it lives up to the hype.

[glennc]

this site really has gone to crap

[palaeomerus]

Learn to use the ignore function. I've ignored a total of 23 idiots and suddenly the comments aren't even half as stupid.

[You Noob]

LIESSS!!!!!!!!!!
The game is 576p upscaled to 720p

FAIL LOL LMAO

[NotSoSilentBob]

Microsoft and its affiliates have been caught lying in the past so I think everyone has to wait for the game to come out.

[moomooakai]

Who cares? It's still 'Alan Fail'.

[LuHawk27]

yo momma fail b!tch

[datapimp]

"But we really don't and can't control the resolutions in Alan Wake. We're just pushing 16:9 720p out and the Xbox360 OS handles the rest. The game doesn't even know whether you're connected with HDMI, VGA, Component, Composite and whatever rez you set your 360 to."

- MarkusRMD

I pushed a low rez movie out on 720p as well on my HDTV from my computer guess what the movie was in fact 538p. You know that you can push anything to be displayed at 720p at 16:9. Does not mean that its going to be TRUE 720p. Love the line XBox360 OS handles the rest :P

[devilhunterx]

You could smell the desperation on the xbots. haha

[Ashriel]

lol, where's that alanwake547p guy now?

back to making another troll account! xD

[NinjaSp33d]

Alan Wake is longer then 5 hrs

[Justin_bristoe]

splinter cell is lower than heavy rain on meta....flop by bot logic. aleen face will be the same. i wish i would have save my comment about a month back that said

"splinter cell would be a under par mediocre game that would hit the bargin bin a month after release and be ported over to ps3 soon after even though it wont sell 100 copies on the ps3..."

like a splinter cell games in the past.they suck.xbugs hyped it up because it's all they have besides crack down reach and allen face

[JokesOnYou]

lmfaoWow, once again ps3 fanboys proving Destructoid right, they are the worst, I cant believe some try to say this whole war Bs was started by 360 folks, lol the doom & gloom of the past was the MEDIA reporting sony's failure which was backlash from sonys own hype and arrogance. Now show me where 360 fans flock to ps3 news so agressively attacking a ps3 exclusive a just a hint of bad news, no in fact its most 360 fans on this site who have balance, they sound like gamers and are more than likely to be found in the 360 news threads praising the games they love and care about....its ps3 extremists who excessively follow 360 news trolling, the majority of 360 owners dont go trolling every ps3 thread 'cause they simply dont need to prove anything their more than satisfied with their Halo3 wouldnt think twice about choosing Halo3's graphics with all the features it brings to the table vs choosing KZ2 graphics with nothing else about that game to keep you coming back years later,

I own them both but dont take it from me, Bungies daily unique player count speaks for itself, lol ps3 loyalists hating on AW can remove their foot out of their mouth's now. Dry your tears and stop letting your jealousy show.=

JOY

[Midnight-Rogue]

Seriously, get a life.

[i_am_interested]

nice damage control by the community manager, unfortunately captures at "whatever" ratio dont manipulate the pixel ratio of native to added

best looking 360 game without question

[Tigan]

(drums)....................... .......................datapimp !

Does it really hurt that much datachimp? A game on 360 that looks just as good as the best of the ps3 exclusives and that runs at 720P. It must be a tough pill to swallow for the fanboys. Fuken loser trying to pretend he knows better. So hurting. Just get your xbox already and stop being a fa**ot.

[Omega Zues]

All this over for 720p.

Earth Shattering.

[Tekton014]

Ground Breaking.

[Convas]

Remember that So-Nerds? How Xbots laughed and prophesied doom for the PS3. And at the end of the day, they were laughed off the site. Now, you get what you give.

Feel good guys? Here's another serving.

ASSUMPTION MAKES AN ASS out of YOU!

[yewles1]

New possible assumption that Alan Wake is 960 x 540p native shows up over a couple of hours ago can only mean one thing:

360 owners finally get THEIR crappy port of Ghostbusters as well. ROFLMAO!!! XD

[jalen247]

I am willing to bet that Quaz51 is right and Alan Wake is sub HD.

Game looks pretty good non the less...but as far as I am concerned you can't be in the discussion of best graphics in an HD game if you aren't even HD

[Varsarus]

Well yes he's obviously the resolution king, he's the same person who said Halo 3 was 640p, then Bungie admitted that it was.

[Redempteur]

make you wonder why some people are so quick to believe that community manager that don't know sh*t about pixels or programming

[Dellis]

Damage Control mode by Remedy, clearly the game is sub HD you can tell

by the latest footage, who ever has an HDTV should care those

playing 360 on SD need to be quiet this has nothing to do with your

setup.

[xg-ei8ht]

From the looks of it, it's subhd, and upscaled.

With x4aa.

Still looks good though.

[Gitaroo]

reading up a bit on the lastest update, 960x574 seems 99.9% confirmed, the HUD is quite a bit sharper than the game itself, which doesn't add up how compression can ruin a IQ because if it would effect the entire screen shot.

This
http://n4g.com/xbox360/News...

pretty much proofs that everyone been looking at bull shot the whole time. Until they publish those real in game shot recently.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The SDF is working overtime on trying to rip this game down.

How disgusting.. Worst in gaming proved daily!

[Biggest]

Say what you want about the people laughing at the Alan Wake zombies. But you can't deny that the people, like you, that have been touting Alan Wake as the gaming messiah are looking quite foolish yet again. I have never attacked the game as the game. But I most definitely get a laugh when people get shown to be liars and fools. First Alan Wake was the most beautiful game ever made and it ran in the highest definition known to man. Then it was called standard definition which lead to the good ol' "graphics don't make a game good" defense. When it seemed as if the standard definition claims were false it switched to "I knew it! Alan Wake IS the best looking game ever made!" Which has now been tossed to the side for the "you guys are losers" defense. It's comedy gold. You guys should get a job at Fox news. The teaparty needs spin masters like you.

[WetN00dle69]

Alright WHOCARES the game is gonna be awesome!

[chrisin3]

I gotta say something here. I am buying Alan Wake the day it comes out. I have a 360 and a PS3. I like both of them. But here's the thing. A lot of people here, especially alpha-male, are calling out the ps3 fanboys for having a field day when a news article came out about Alan Wake NOT being 720p, but 576 or whatever. Not that I myself care, but I can see why ps3 fanboys would say do that since most PS3 titles are 720P or above. However, that news article ended up being wrong (i havent seen it myself though). SO we are blaming the ps3 fanboys for commenting on an article that was perceived to be true? Why aren't we blaming the news site that posted an article that was false. They are the ones who caused the big stir, not the fanboys. fanboys are going to fanboys, ON BOTH SIDES, we need the gaming sites to post good information.

I don't like fanboys, but the xbox fanboys having a retalliation against what the ps3 fanboys said about an article they thought, at the time, was true... is retarded. The xbox fanboys screaming on here are just as bad as the ps3 fanboys. Most of you are fanboys on N4G anyway.

Having both systems though doesnt make you non fanboy. I got both consoles for the games. If you did it only for the games, then you are a respectable gamer. Some people just say they have both consoles but don't. They do it just to have an edge when stating their opinion, and some people just idolize one console over another for--i can only assume--emotional reasons. Or maybe they just feel they need to validate the money they spent.

I dont know. All i know is when a good game comes out for ps3 or xbox, it makes no difference to me because i get to play it regardless of the platform. Isnt that just easier? admit it. it is.

A lot of you wanna play alan wake, but are just to stubborn to buy an xbox because you idolize the ps3. Personally, i think the ps3 is better overall, even though honestly the xbox does do some things better than the ps3. Soooo....if you can afford it, buy both and smile.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Don't come into a situation way after the fact and start lecturing 360 fanboys. They weren't the ones creating the original story or this situation, creating spam accounts and giving the mods/admins here a workout last night. They are simply responding to it.

I agree it's lame but you obviously don't have all the information so should probably shut your trap.

[N4BmpS]

To update anyone who doesn't know I'll put this in a script like dialogue:

XBOX360Fanboys: YES we told you stupid Sony/PS3 fanboys

XBOX360/PS3FANS:...Oh boy here we go

PS3 Fanboys: What! Remedy is lying

Me: Excellent >:) I'm making someone buy this game. To everyone else who doesn't have a 360 and even if you do have a 360 uh why do you care if you were going to buy the game anyway?

[chickenlegs9]

whats going on here then???i watched the daytime video,and now its been removed???either way the video showed nothing groundbreaking at all,GAMEPLAY,is that not what GAMES are about???this(from the videos ive seen)really aint bringing anything new to the table gameplay wise.at no point did i think to myself"hummm,wish i was playing that."looks pretty,but thats about it...

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I think it's kind of a sad state of affairs when we have to get confirmation of trivialities like this. I just want to know if the game is good or not, after waiting 5 years for it. All jokes aside, it's depressing that my favorite time killer has devolved into a cesspool of geeks arguing over complete nonsense.

[palaeomerus]

This was an awesome thread! I found 11 people who need ignoring due to their idiocy. The comments on this site are getting more readable every day!

[maxcer]

framerate > resolution

[orange-skittle]

God of War ran at 720 and look at those visuals

[The real killer]

The reason why GOW3 downgraded from 1080p to 720p is the save play from the game engine because the engine use 55% of the PS3 power.

And this is the first game from Santamonica studio, expect from them next game will run at 1080p and with better graphics and visual.

[Foxgod]

Sure sure, then why isnt every ps3 game running at 1080P sherlock?
Why is it that only games like wipeout, which got very basic graphics, runs at 1080P?

[Redempteur]

lool

wipeout hd has basic graphics ??

seriously ..your trolling attempt is ridiculous ...

in futuristic races, there are 2 kings ..f-zero gx and wipeout hd .. ( and by king i mean both in the gameplay and the graphics ) ..

[Foxgod]

Alan Wake = awesome.
Anyone who bickers about Alan wake = queer.

[The real killer]

You make your self like a small child, cry and cry about AW.
Did you play the game? NO!!!!! so you do not know that the is awesome.

I won't let me fool by a couple of pictures with some fog and night that hiding the graphics and visual of the game aspect, the gameplay looks like simple as i see the movies.

[Foxgod]

Its from Remedy, that alone says enough.
Your comment made as much sense, as claiming that anything from blizzard has to be played before judged.
Anyone over 12 knows that whatever comes from Remedy or Blizzard = Pure win.

Btw, you sound pretty butthurt.

[The real killer]

So,i'm butthurt because i share not with your opinion.
A typical 360 fanboy standard answer do not know what he talk about what awesome is.

If i play a game, than i give my opinion about the game.

But you 360 fanboys talk always crap like better than Unc2/Killzone 2 or GOW3, yet those picture let us see that the night/fog cover the graphics and the visuals of the game.

And i know that the game will not intensive fight al over the screen just like all PS3 exclusive did.

I will play AW, because i love the atmosphere of the game and that is really nice, but don't get excited about graphics of the game and compare with games like Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 or better like GOW3.

The 360 is no near so powerful like the PS3, we all know that and yet people like you still ignore the facts that's years proves.

[Foxgod]

Yes, you are butthurt, Because this is from Remedy.
And i know awesome, awesome = stuff like Alan Wake.

Doubting great games like Alan Wake = pure fail.

[The real killer]

If i butthurt, than give some argument why i butthurt according to you, but random typ butthurt is just childish who cannot answer my questions.

[LiquifiedArt]

Take a direct capture of the game running on an xbox 360.

I'm sure that will be done. So lets all wait patiently

[ReBurn]

What's funny is that all of the visuals are HD resolutions on both PS3 and 360 by the time they hit the screen. I don't know a single person that plays games straight out of the framebuffer, but the morons here argue like it really matters.

[OpenGL]

I cannot believe this topic is still going on. There has been no real confirmation of Alan Wake being 720p. In fact, the evidence presented supports the earlier claim of the game running at 960x547.

This image was not taken from the highly compressed 960x540 video. The game is rendered at 960x547 while the HUD rendered natively at 720p. Just look at how sharp the HUD is in comparison to the rest of the image. http://www.abload.de/img/bi...

Hopefully Remedy's claims end up being true and these images have been altered. So far the evidence does not support it, but we should try and remain objective until we can confirm the truth regardless of what it is.

[Jonas Brothers]

720P confirmed b!tchez

[Justin_bristoe]

i cant wait for allen face to come out so ya'll can see what a rip off ya'll get to play,just like splinter bell.i dont see anyone raving about this game or barley even talking about it.lol m.a.g. had a much bigger buzz than this.