FASA Studio boss says, "I think the reviews on my game suck ass

Mitch Gitelman, head of Shadowrun developer FASA Studio, has given an awesome interview where he talks about the game's review scores: "I think the reviews on my game suck ass and I want to respond."

And he did, via OXM's podcast in a discussion that lasted 45 minutes. Many reviews hit the game for not shipping with enough maps and game modes for the full price asked for the title.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

David Jaffe

[shysun]

@least Davids game is fun as hell.;)

[MoonDust]

Can i get a w00t w00t?

[Firewire]

I played this on the 360 over at a buddies house, they ruined this game.
The game seems to open a ton of possibilities but doesn't go anywhere near them. They should have used another 6-12 months of dev time, and made the game what it should have been. Also from my understanding PC gamers hate this game. Which isn't all that un-expected!

[MoonDust]

nothing!

[mbmonk]

The PRICE SUCKS ASS MITCH.

[VaeVictus]

I totally agree. The game has some fun elements, but it is no where near worth $60. $20-$30 possibly. If additional content is made available, it better be free. Otherwise, MS is raping it's consumers.

[Rooted_Dust]

And it looked to me like a modified version of the Halo 2 engine, which for a new PC game, is not good. Also, the fact the they took a game that could be so rich in story line and character and turned it into a multiplayer only game seem like poor strategy.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

yeah its sad they made Unreal Engine 3.0 look like that.

[edit] sorry my bad, I thought it was made with UE3.0

[eques judicii]

i'm actually pretty certain its not unreal 3... its not on the list of unreal 3 games at wikipedia and i remember them discussing developing their own engine...

while I agree that the game looks like crude... i think thats more the horrendous art style than the engine... i think the engine is decent (meh) but the art style kills the game.

[God of Gaming]

Actually on another podcast mitch admits they used the Halo 1 engine and at one point had shadowrun working in blood gultch.

I love the game.. tons of fun but they need to add some content to help balance the price.

[Bill Gates]

His games have something in common with M$'s xbox360,.....HAHAHAHA

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Agree price 9.0 gameplay 8.0 graphics and a 3.5 on content

[VirusE]

I know I am alone on this but I personally love shadowrun. At first I wasn’t sure about it but the better I get at it the more I love it. It is not a perfect game by any means but it has a ton of very cool and unique ideas going on. I personally feel that my 60 bucks was well spent.

[Mr Murda]

I like the game too. There are definitely somethings that could use a polish, but overall it's pretty good. However, I'll have to disagree with you on the price. There isn't enough content to justify $60, unless they plan on giving me several FREE map packs in the future.

[crck]

And at $60 the amount of content or lack there of is scandalous.

[funkysolo]

This is the biggest rip off on xbox live, I played the demo and I couldn't beleave they were charging for this game. this game should of been release on xbox 1. I don't know anyone that has played it and liked it. If you're going to charge $60 for a game, make sure it at the very least make it look next gen. GOW is worth $60 ShadowRun is worth 400 points since it should be an arcade game. Maybe they can learn from Warhawk what a multiplayer only game should cost and play

[candystop]

Well I know alot of people that love it on line like myself! The game doesn't suck and I'm sure if you only played the demo you have know idea how to play to judge it! Both my brothers hated the game until they figured it out and now both love it to death! It's all a matter of opinion but I've noticed people that just want to complain and haven't even sat down and played it are the ones saying negative things!

[GrahamDJ]

Than what's the point of a demo, Candystop, if it isn't an accurate representation of the game? If you've played the demo, you know what you're getting (or not getting).

[candystop]

For whatever reason my brothers didn't like the game at 1st and after trying and getting the hang of things they actually fell in love! Now sure the demo is there to lure you in but this game is just one of those games that you really have to play to finally get into! There have been demo's that played well and ended up turning out bad or good so for this game the demo obviously doesn't do a good job of showcasing the game! There's a learning curve and until you get passed that you might or might not like it!

[RelloC]

your game sucked. get over it, and try again.

[BigKev45]

Yeah, the game does suck ass!!!!!

[zafeiriou]

"I think the reviews on my game suck ass..."

Then maybe you should have released a better game.

A box full of crap would be more entertaining than "Shadowrun."

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Now I'm going back to that side to talk sh!t about your games and not a one of you Sony Droids can do it better than me and none of you can be a bigger d!ck or pr!ck than me. So get used to being pwned by my smart ass PS3 bashing mouth boys.

[VaeVictus]

Instead of being angry with PS3 fans, you should be angry with FASA for putting out a waaaay overpriced last gen looking game.

[GrahamDJ]

Oooooohhh...Mr. Tough Talk...we'd better watch out, gang!

[candystop]

Just enjoy the game and don't let them bother you! Haters will always be around and who cares!

[MJ23007]

enough said!

[toughNAME]

i loved the shadowrun demo...but noway im paying $60

they shudda made it downloadable or smth

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

I never trust the opinion of the critics..

SBA...SONY BUBBLE ALLIANCE COMMING SOON

[Schmitty07]

If you have a bunch of friends it is so fun to play. Kinda steep with a $60 price tag, but my paycheck can handle it. I'm hoping they release new maps for free considering the lack of content.

[OneBubbleBastard]

CAN I GET A RAPED???? i mean AMEN??

[BIadestarX]

Most people hating this games are mostly if not all Microsoft and XBox 360 haters... So they have no credibility based on their previous batsh of all xbox 360 games related articles.

How can you trust what they say... when everything they say about all xbox 360 games is bad...

This game... though not my cup of tea was on the top 10 games on xbox live. And everyone that owns it love it and even say.. that this game though it's only multiplayer it has multiplayer features not existant in other games... I know lots of games that don't have single player that charged pretty much as those games that have both... i.e. Battle Field. Why don't you go and compare resistance in terms of features and what you can do to this game?

I think they should of rate this game by what it is.. and not what it does not have... The same way... you people don't like people to rate the PS3 by their lack of available games but by the features it has.

If games would to be rated against most games it would look like this:

Single Player: 0/10
Multiplayer: 20/10

The fact that this game has no single player... gave them the oportunity of adding gameplay and features that we may never see in many single/multiplayer games... that's why There is so much to do in Battle Field games.. since that's all the concentrate on.

Sometimes I buy games and I can careless about the single player missions... lot's of people only like playing multiplayer FPS.

Look at this reviews:

Editor(7/10) | Gamer(8/10)
http://www.totalvideogames....

Editor(7.4/10) | Gamer(8.5/10)
http://reviews.teamxbox.com...

Editor(6.8/10) | Gamer(7.4/10)
http://pc.ign.com/articles/...

Editor(6.7/10) | Gamer(8.1/10)
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Look at all the reviews.... Sometimes editors give it a very low score... and others give them a high....

And always... the gamers give them a hight score average 8.5.
What is it about this game... that has such huge gap?

I'll say.... People should just review the game for what it is... when I ask you to review a game... I don't want you to tell me if the game cost a lot.... I want you to tell me if it is a good game. What if I don't have a problem with paying... just like some people are willin to pay $600 for the PS3.

If the game is multiplayer online... rate that! Let me be the one to rate the price and if I care about single player... I don't need anyone to deside that for me.

[DJ]

To the Rescue!!! *cough-not

[mbmonk]

I disagree with your notion that price shouldn't be a factor in the review score. I think if you release a great game for $20 it should get a higher score. It's more value for your dollar. So I will not judge a game that is $20 with the same eye as a game that cost $120, and you wouldn't either truth be told.

Also a review is an opinion. There is no 'right' score. That is why some editor's gave it a high score and others gave it a low score. Value is always relevant to the individual, always.

Also it is slightly disturbing that you are championing the same arguments as Mitch 'the guilt trip' Gitelman has on other podcasts. He ranted about 'review the game for what it is, not what it lacks' on the PC gamer podcast. He also brings up the whole 'price' shouldn't be an issue false argument like you did here.

Mitch himself said he wanted a lower price for the game, but when the game gets dinged for the price HE OBJECTED TO then he gets upset. BS. I feel sorry for him. I really do. I think Shadowrun could have been an excellent game if he didn't sign this deal with MS. Face it. This game was rushed out (aka. they scrapped the single player portion completely after working on it for years), it has a ton of bugs on the PC side, and they made it Vista exclusive when the OVERWHELMING majority of PC gamers are on XP. I wish the game luck, but the release was a train wreck for a number of reasons.

[Testo]

I don't want to hear one peep out of you when Warhawk comes out for 60 bucks WITH a bluetooth headset.

I agree with a lot of you IF its only multiplayer then it should definitely be cheaper then a full game.

[BIadestarX]

Dude... I'm sure you being following my comments... Warhawk is one of the 3 games that I look forward owning a P3. I got an xbox 360 because on online multiplayer capabilities... I get bored with single player games... and usually don't play them again once I beat them... but online multiplayer games... I can play them for years... so for me... multiplayer have more value than single player... (personal opinion)... that's why I own every battle field game ever made...

Warhawk as I stated on my previous post... is on the top of my list even if it cost $60-$70. I don't mind paying for something if I know is worth it.

Also, noticed I said shawdowrun is not my cup of tea. I don't own it.. and I don't plan to own it. I have small kids and I don't like having to hide when I play my games... so if something is too graphic... in terms of gore and demons... and stuff I avoid it as much as possible specially if I don't have the option of turning those things off. My kid is more important than one game.

My argument is against game reviewers.... and the aprouch they took when they reviewed this game...

Take Warhawk for example... we all know that the game will be multiplayer.... just like shadowrun... they've being saying that for a long time. What would you say if they review this game with a 6/10 because it does not have single player... it would confuse us... the ones that know that this game will be great and know and are ok with not having single player.

Warhawk will be great... and the multiplayer will be great for the simple fact that developers focused on multiplayer and didnt make it just as an extra... to add value to the single player game... as many games out there usually are.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I thought the demo was pretty fun.

[funkysolo]

It just came out and you can find it on ebay like for $25, It seems to me that people already selling it. This game should of been a downloadable on xbox live. If you thought lumines was a rip off on xbox live, this is beyond that get your vasaline out cause you're getting rape.

[FirstknighT]

The gameplay in Shadowrun is top notch! That is all I care about. The firefights are intense when you have players going thru walls and flying over you. Good stuff Microsoft.

[Daxx]

What makes the game a winner is that it has a party system similar to Halo 2's. The only thing that is wrong with Shadowrun's party system is sometimes you might be put on the opposing team to even up things, but it's not that big of a deal and it rarely happens to me.

[freeza]

lol omfg this is the first time i have heard this podcast, an now i see why you xbots are stupid. lol hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaa

[RelloC]

oh the irony here.