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How to play BioShock 2 at 60FPS on your 360/PS3

Rapture may look pretty, but that beauty comes at the expense of locking the framerate to 30FPS.

Or does it...? Did you know that there's a simple method to double BioShock 2's frame rate to 60FPS tucked away in the options menu?

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El_Colombiano5203d ago

A bit? No no if I recall the 360 version tears 61% of the frames! And the PS3 a whopping 21%! NOT worth the 40ish fps. NOT even 60fps!

Insomnia_845203d ago

My tv plays all games at 60fps ;)

Connoro5203d ago

Actually Insomnia, I think you'll find it doesn't play all games at 60fps. If the game doesn't run at 60fps, your TV can't show it at 60fps. Even if you have a 100" HDTV, watching standard definition video on it will not made it high definition. Get it?

AKNAA5203d ago

Actually, I think insomnia is rite because I played dead space on a sony 120hz lcd tv and it was definitely running at, at least 60fps. It was just gorgeous to look at in motion.

SprSynJn5203d ago

I am pretty sure Connoro is right here. I remember reading several times that if the game is not programmed to run at 60fps, it will not.....period. No TV can make that different. What you guys might be thinking of is 1080p vs 720p, or what have you.

thesummerofgeorge5203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

That's just not how it works. If I'm wrong, I'd be very interested to know how that would work.

travelguy2k5203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

but it will not make the game more reponsive as it is still running at whatever frame rate it is runnig at. The TV creates the additional frames. It is similar to upscaling, but instead of increasing the resolution, it is incleasing the number of frames to make the picture smoother.

Dark_Vendetta5203d ago

I'm not sure too but once I brought my 360 to a friend and we played several games on his HDTV (120hz). Compared to my HDTV it looked so much more smoothly (and I can easily see the difference between 30 and 60 fps). So I guessed it's because of the 120hz (the TV program does looks better/more smooth too).

IdleLeeSiuLung5203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

Your TV frame rate is independent of your game frame rate. The frame rate of the TV tells the TV how often to draw the screen. If it is interlaced, i.e. the "i" after the resolution, then it takes 2 frames to draw a full screen. If it is a progressive mode, i.e. the "p" in 720p then it takes one frame.

The console has to match this or the TV has to adjust for this if it s above 60Hz. If the TV is above 60Hz, then it has advance circuitry to blend the different pictures to reach a higher frame rate i.e. it is possibly introducing noise into the picture you are seeing. In some cases, it might just not blend at all. The advantage is when viewing certain movies that can help avoid judder. That is a different topic though.

The independent frame rate of the game on the other hand is how often the game is able to complete on task of updating the game status (i.e. take your input for instance, update the score, see if there is any collisions between object, compute physics etc) and draw it on screen. You don't see the screen until the game has completed these two tasks as you will only see the previous completed screen. This is repeated 30 times a second in a 30fps game.

This means, that a 30fps game will require a 60Hz TV to draw the same game frame at least twice. If it is 120Hz with no picture blending, it draws every frame at least 4 times.

Still the game runs at 30fps regardless of your TV screen. If it works differently than suggested here you would essentially upgrade the PS3/Xbox 360 by just buying a new TV. Now that doesn't make sense does it?

SilentNegotiator5203d ago

Doesn't really sound like it's worth the amount of screen tearing....

na2ru15203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

Think he means "Motion Plus". Whatever Travelguy mentioned is called Motion Plus where your TV calculates the visuals of what's inbetween each true frame.

I have 100hz LCD with MotionPlus and it looks amazing watching TV but visuals sometimes gets distorted due to fast motion video.

Sarcasm5203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

It was worth it simply because it made the controls more responsive.

krisq5203d ago

MotionPlus and MotionFLow are interpolating frames.

Toolster5203d ago

120hz ftw!!!!
My tv plays all games at 60fps ;)

Comment FAIL

DEA Fresh5203d ago

The TV doesn't dictate how many FPS the game can produce. I have a 240hz Sony Bravia Z5100. For optimal gaming settings I turn off a lot of the features like motion blur and 240hz to reduce any lag. They're great features to have and helps future proof your TV but it's not of any use this generation since a lot of games struggle at 30 and very few can hold 60. But to the human eye it really makes no difference. Blu-ray movies run at 24fps so you're not really losing or gaining anything.

Insomnia_845203d ago

MotionPlus, MotionBlur whatever, my games look A LOT better, like if they were running at 60fps, the games run at 30fps obviously but the tv makes it look like 60fps, period. I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

behemothzero5202d ago

It's called the placebo effect. Have fun with it

ThanatosDMC5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

Bravia 120hz tech doubles the amount of frames per sex. You can set it up on the menu. I want to destroy my Bravia and get the 240hz from my 3yr warranty. I still have 2yrs to go.

Btw, games and movies look a TON better being played this way. Bluray movies look realistic. It's how it's meant to watch just like those hdtvs you see in stores but not the ones from walmart or target or the like.

NinjaAssassin5202d ago

i think frame interpolation looks horrible on movies because it gives them that soap opera effect. on games it is bad too because it makes the input lag a lot higher. anyway on bioshock 30 fps with little to no screen tearing is much better than 60 fps with lots of screen tearing.

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duplissi5203d ago

the playstation version of the first bioshock had that option as well, and since i have the ps version i dont know about the xbox version.

thereapersson5203d ago

You could turn the frame limiter off, but it would warn you that there would end up being a fair amount of screen tearing if you were to proceed.

Eamon5203d ago

The game was pretty mediocore anyway.

Nothing as amazing as the first Bioshock. I was expecting a huge mega twist at the end like in first Bioshock (Would You Kindly).

Pretty dissapointing.

DelbertGrady5203d ago

I think the single player is awesome but the multiplayer is really poor.

DavidMacDougall5203d ago

I'm liking the multiplayer lol

I just don't get how i die sometimes

Sarcasm5203d ago

I'd rate it at about 8/10.

The game isn't as good because it wasn't a mystery anymore. Everything was too familiar. Heck, they didn't even TRY to make it a mystery.

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ProjectVulcan5203d ago (Edited 5203d ago )

Screen tearing? More than half the frames rendered are torn without Vsync on. The consoles also cant hope to maintain anything like 50-60 frames a second, so as it yoyos between 25 and 60 frames all the time, the controls feel completely inconsistant. If you really want 60 frames a second with zero tearing, get it on Pc. Its not like you need an expensive or particularly fast machine to manage that..

thereapersson5203d ago

When the clear winner in regards to technology for a game like this is the PC.

xLordOblivionx5203d ago

Screw 60 fps. Vsync ALWAYS takes priority over frames for me. I've played and enjoyed pretty much every PC game I have at 15-20 fps, those extra frames mean nothing when screen tearing makes a game unplayable to a point that it will make me sick.

y0haN5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

Oblivion turning vsync on doesn't even matter if you're getting 15-20 fps. Screen tearing occurs when you have a higher frame rate than the refresh rate of your monitor, your monitor will be at least 60 Hz.

Rowsdower5203d ago

is that the thing I watch porn on?

tdrules5203d ago

is that the thing I watch movies on?

thereapersson5203d ago

Is that something I warm my house with?

raztad5203d ago

Yeah, but it allows me to play 90% of xbox "exclusives"

Neurotoxin5203d ago

You all should get together, rent a house and video it as a documentry.
DAY 1 : Fanboys spooning in a bed whilst the pc is playing porn, 360 is warming the house and Earnest saves christmas is playing on the PS3. Aww bless you guys.

tdrules5203d ago

haha i can provide the PS3 and PC

mrb3ar5203d ago

Thank you for that sir, gave me a good laugh this morning.

*bubbles*

chazjamie5203d ago

that made me laugh. who cares about the pc. it was good during the ps1 days. heck even developers know creating games for the pc is a liability, its all in vain. so while you pc fanboys go on about superior specs, u should realise u just giving false hope to a very lonely old man, who should die. but wont. if gears and alan are not signs of the inevitable departure, then i dont know what is. splinter cell is bound to be announced exclusively for the 360, i wish i could enjoy it on my ps3 though.

Sarcasm5203d ago

What's a iPad? That thing that's going to replace the PC to watch porn with, warm the house, and watch movies?

ambientFLIER5203d ago

"Ill provide the Mac? :)"

Do yourself a favor and throw that thing in the trash. :P

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Netflix announces Bioshock film in the works

One of the most popular video game franchises of all time is set to receive a Netflix film adaptation, according to an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

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-Foxtrot818d ago

Gee...can't wait to see how many things they change and stray away from, oh don't forget the miscast actors

Neonridr818d ago

I have such high hopes because the first game is so near and dear to me. That being said, I'm sure they will mess it up. I'm hoping it's adult rated, and violent. I want to see a Big Daddy put that drill to good use :P

camel_toad816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

They're great at butchering stuff but there have also been some gems and surprises.

I never in my life thought I'd like a series based on League of Legends but it was pretty great.

Maybe just maybe they'll do Bioshock justice.

cheetah816d ago

Priority checklist
- Pander to POC
- Pander to woman
- Pander to LGBTQ
- Story

In that order

Silly Mammo816d ago

Damn! It sure sucks when white men aren't the sole focus of everything! Why can't these fringe groups be kept on the fringes like the good ole days?!? /s

senorfartcushion816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

Virgin detector

*****SCREEEECH*****

Vx_816d ago

Remove the story and I totally agree with the list

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senorfartcushion816d ago

You can cast who you want as a director. Don’t be sulky.

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Knightofelemia817d ago

Netflix did well with Dare Devil and the Punisher and I hear the Witcher is pretty good I know when I had Netflix at the time Stranger Things was also good. But Bioshock I love the franchise Bioshock Infinite is my favorite game I would pay the $21 Canadian just to check out Bioshock. Normally I would never renew my Netflix after they did their price hike but Bioshock would be worth it.

LoveSpuds817d ago

When firing on all cinders, Netflix do produce some brilliant stuff so I am not feeling pessimistic at all here. If Netflix deliver to their potential then this could be incredible given the quality of the source material. Personally, I am quite excited.

EvertonFC817d ago

Agreed, Netflix originals etc are fantastic in general, it's rare I don't like something they do.
Certainly not feeling negative with Netflix doing bioshock quite the opposite infact.

Ashunderfire86817d ago (Edited 817d ago )

Bu bu bu bu but what about Cowboy Beebop though? That was a little miss opportunity. Just a little nervous that Bioshock could turn to crap 💩 like that show. If they do a Horizon Zero Dawn show, I hope they don’t screw that up as well. I know a few good actresses that could play Aloy like Jon Snow’s girlfriend from Game of Thrones, and his wife in real life. Definitely see Aloy in her.

Livingthedream817d ago

Netflix does a lot of great things, recently finished the first season of Arcane and it was brilliant.

MadLad817d ago

Arkane was so damn good.
I just hope they keep up the quality with later releases.

I'm not even a LoL player.

Livingthedream816d ago

I’m sure they will, I don’t play the games either, I love the fact that I didn’t need to play them to enjoy it.

Michiel1989816d ago

Arcane was insanely good imo, I was hooked almost all the way. Im not sure of this but i think Netflix didnt have much to do with the production of the show? More like they just bought the rights to have it exclusively on there?

Some of their original shows are really good so im quite hopeful this might turn out to be a good show. Lets hope they wont F it up.

Nacho_Z817d ago

Love Bioshock but I'll prepare myself for the likelihood this will be both crap and a pale imitation of the source material. That covers most video game adaptations and Netflix films.

dumahim817d ago

How many have they done? It sounds like Witcher and Castlevania have done well.

Nacho_Z817d ago

I meant Netflix films in general, there are some good ones but most are average at best in my experience. Castlevania is good but I didn't like The Witcher, although it is successful.

Not sure if there are any live action video game film adaptations on Netflix as yet but they don't have a great track record.

dumahim817d ago

@ Nacho
For movies, I think it’s very difficult to cram he narrative from a 10+ hour game into 2 hours. I think that’s why series are much better suited for video game adaptations. Seems we have a bunch coming up, so we’ll see how well it plays out.

Terry_B817d ago

Why are PS2 and Wii and even the PS Vita tagged?

Atom666817d ago

The Vita tag stung a little bit extra.

Atticus_finch817d ago

Starring Tom Holland I'm guessing.

FlavorLav01817d ago

Haha. Now if it was a Sony movie, very likely

Outlawzz817d ago

Lol the Tom Holland craze is real

Terry_B817d ago

Kevin Nash is going to play the..Big Daddy.

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Ranking the BioShock Games From Worst to Best

The best games are able to create a never-before-seen setting and weave a completely engaging story into its DNA. One series beats almost all others out for its environmental storytelling and narrative: BioShock.

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Inverno989d ago

Infinite better than 2? No way

roadkillers989d ago

IMO Infinite is better than 2... The only thing I remember from 2 is playing as a little sister. It felt too much like Bioshock (which wasn't bad). Infinite was the right stepping stone.

Inverno989d ago

Infinite was a huge step back. It played like a generic fps because it was dumbed down to be an fps and it's not at all the gameplay evolution Bioshock needed. It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries against dumb AI while making you look for health in trash cans cause they removed mechanics that worked in favor for a more action oriented gameplay.
I think people are remembering Infinite all wrong.
It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio.

LucasRuinedChildhood989d ago (Edited 989d ago )

@Inverno

"It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries"
Sounds more applicable to Bioshock 2, tbh. B2 has wave-based gameplay where Subject Delta casually goes through large hordes of splicers to protect Little Sisters. C'mon. I still wouldn't call any of the Bioshocks mindless shooters though.

If you want to criticize the lack of the weapon wheel and the replacement of certain mechanics in Infinite in favour of increased mobility (e.g. addition of the sky-hook), fair enough, but the story and world-building of 2 are less memorable, noteworthy and interesting than Infinite by a huge margin. Most people don't even remember much beyond the basic premise of 2 (including any of the characters) because it felt so unnecessary. It's not even close.

"It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio." Needing to use Bioshock 1 to criticize Infinite instead of 2 is an admission that 2's story is the weakest.

roadkillers989d ago

@Inverno

I remember it being very imaginative and a breath of fresh air, while still being familiar. The last hour or two was big on shooting.

SegaSaturn669989d ago

Infinite was the most boring and repetitive in terms of gameplay. It lost the suspenseful atmosphere of the first 2

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SonyPS360989d ago (Edited 989d ago )

Am I reading that backwards or are you really shocked that people like infinite more than 2?

Just wanna make sure I have it right because you're literally the first person I've seen say that 2 is better.

Inverno988d ago

I understand 2 is more of the same but I much prefer more of the same than going backwards in terms of gameplay. It wasn't the step in the right direction. But thats just my opinion, I'm not surprised at all. Just to me I much rather the first 2. However what they had planned for Infinite originally sounded very interesting and it sucks we won't ever see it

Concertoine988d ago (Edited 988d ago )

Imo 2 is tied with 1 as my favorite Bioshock. The gameplay is the natural evolution of the first, with more freedom to experiment. The story and locales are more intimate and less grandiose than you would see in a Ken Levine story. I love the atmospheric break of the underwater sections and never understood the hate for them. All 3 games have pacing issues but imo 2’s are less severe. The level design has a lot of ex-Looking Glass alumnis and is generally more open ended.

The endings are more tailored to your moral choices than the other games.

Infinite hedges on a admittedly cool twist that is poorly executed when scrutinized. The gameplay takes a huge step back, it isnt the game that early gameplay and trailers promised. The world is less fleshed out. It was prescient politically and that makes it interesting but otherwise i have no desire to replay it.

Yui_Suzumiya988d ago

2 had better gameplay but 3 had a better story

leahcim989d ago (Edited 989d ago )

Hurts to see the word "worst" related to Bioshock saga.
The 3 games are masterpieces.

ScootaKuH989d ago

Bioshock 2
Bioshock
Bioshock Infinite

That was easy

Rebel_Scum989d ago

oh great. Can’t wait to see the posts of game titles in a ranked order without context as to why.

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BioShock 2's director reveals what could have been a different BioShock

In a podcast with Wassup Conversations, Jordan Thomas, director and the writer of BioShock 2 reveals his initial ideas for a new rapture and how they were shut down by 2K.
"My first proposal was about a little sister, it was playing as a little sister and it was much more horror-oriented pace and about vulnerability, closer to Thief frankly, but I was told no, we want it to be our Gears of War, this need to be a big shooter franchise with an emphasis on the shooter element, and so what I think of the protagonist of a shooter as is a big lumbering sort of porthole on a stick with guns sticking out in front like you’re almost a vehicle."

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plainview10301509d ago

And he also wanted it to be above the sea or in space. What a wasted opportunity.

Nacho_Z1508d ago

It's surprising the game turned out to be good with this guy at the helm. The combat mechanics were actually the biggest improvement in the sequel as much as he wouldn't want to hear that, everything else was inferior.