Halo 3 possibly on two discs?

Probably the biggest game of 2007 will be Halo 3 for the Xbox 360. Gamers have been waiting for this sequel since Halo 2 came out in 2004 on the original Xbox. Bungie finally announced the releasedate last month: September 26. We've all had a chance to play the Halo 3 beta but the singleplayer of Halo 3 is still a big mystery.

Today Microsoft released the official boxarts of both the Normal Edition, Special Edition and the Legendary Edition. When you look at the Special Edition box tough, you'll notice three separate discs: Game Disc One, Game Disc Two and Bonus Features. Does this mean Halo 3 will be on two discs?

Nothing official on this but the picture surely says enough. It could be a mistake or the singleplayer and multiplayer are put on separate discs or something. Check the picture out below and jump to your own conclusions, but it looks like Halo 3 will be on two discs.

[PS360WII]

1 disc can be campain and the 2nd disc can be for multiplayer ^^

Yet that double disc is probably just special features and such.

[eLiNeS]

There is a Game Disc One and a Game Disc Two, Bonus Features for the third disc. Possibly one is the campaign and the two is the multiplayer, either way, I would rather have two disc then a slower load time of a BR disc any day. Not to many games will be on multiple disc for the Xbox 360 but PofS 3 will always have slow load times for all there games.

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[Also Known As]

It could come in 10 disks for all I care all this probably means is that the game will be even longer than halo2. Multiple disks have never stopped people from loving a game, case in point: didnt the much beloved game shenmue (or shenmue2), i think it was the first one on dreamcast, come in 3 disks? and rabid fans of it (like me) are still hoping for a sequel.

[FreeMonk]

IF Halo 3 is indeed to be split over 2 discs, one for Campaign and one for Multiplayer, this just proves how BIG and EPIC Halo 3 is going to be!

Remember, Campaign will have the Single Player experience, which will be huge, PLUS 4 Player Campaign Co-op which will need to be expanded for the 4 player experience. Bigger battlefields to accomidate the 4 players.

Then you have multiplayer which hit 1gb on the Beta with just 3 maps. Add another 7-10 maps, all the different Chief armour, different character models (Elite, Brute etc), plus more vechiles, weapons and more effects that we've not seen yet goes to show that 2 discs may be needed.

Who cares if it's two discs, you'll only be using one at a time, and all you have to do is press the eject button and swap them over, hardly rocket science!

Also remember that the rumour from a while back mentioned that Microsoft were pushing Bungie to create Halo 3 for 1080p support, not just 720p. This will take up massive space as well!

Bring it on. 2 discs means an EPIC EPIC game! Roll on E3'07 when Bugnie will finally reveal everything on Halo 3 ready for September (they better do it!!)

[wolfgang]

Let wait to see who will be the first retarded to say something like :

"what the f8ck, so when I switch from pistol to sniper I'll have to get up and swap the disk ? This is BS, bluray 50 gig 4ever ! "

[omfg_111]

this would be hilarious! :D :D :D olo

[anh_duong]

haha that is actually quite funny comment you just made..

[Pika-pie]

LMAO!

[MADGameR]

I remember 360 fans were saying ''No game for the 360 will ever need 2 discs!' There you go! The game with the BIGGEST hype gets it. People get egotistical about this game. ''Halo 3 will beat everything'' doubt it. I don't hate Halo, its just the people that over hype it. And when I play it, its always not as good as the first. Halo 1 was the best Halo so far. Especially for PC, it was the best version. I pwn on Halo online for PC. Well then, if this comes true that Halo 3 has to use 2 discs, then it looks like 1 DVD9 was not enough for it! Blu Ray is MORE than enough!

[gta_cb]

yeh man nice comment, lets see if someone actually comes out and says it.

[CrazzyMan]

anyway, you got the point, if you know, what other people would say That meas, somehow you agree that DVD is a pastgen, due blu-ray or hd-dvd. =)
but well it`s a FACT. =]]

[devv05]

Bonus disc is seperate, so it can't be the bonus disc. Weird though, I wouldn't think the game was that big after having player the beta.

[nice_cuppa]

you may be thinking of the 2nd bonus disc that has all the halo trilogys cutscenes on it.

i think people have just got confused by the 3 versions of halo 3.

version 1 is just the game.

version 2 is the game and a bonus disc. (shown in the picture on this thread is the inner case) this is the outer case.
http://medialib.computerand...

version 3 is as vesion 2 but with a 2nd bonus disc with the halo trilogy cutscenes and the plastic helmet case.

[THWIP]

You'd have to be blind to not see "Game Disc One" and "Game Disc Two" on the first 2 discs. :o

[Xi]

or something of that sort.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

so when I switch from pistol to sniper I'll have to get up and swap the disk ? This is BS, bluray 50 gig 4ever !

[anh_duong]

ThaGeNeCySt - why did someone disagree with you? you are only making a joke. some people are so darn sensitive.

i just got off the phone from bungie and they tell me that the the game does indeed come in TWO discs. however, they stated that disc swapping will not be needed since one disc contains the game and the other disc contains the voiceover and surround sound effects (gun/tank/plane noises etc). the idea is: you put the second disc in your hi-fi system whilst playing the game with the first disc. you then press forward/skip/rewind/seek (using your hifi remote-control) to the relevent track to play the accompany sound with each scene. for example if you fire the spartan rifle you would need to play track number 34 to get the "whooosh" "whoosh" noise that would acompany the gun. simple isn't it? this workaround ensures that there is no disc swapping needed - so all you sony fanboys can all go to hell - how dare you take the piss out of halo!

just joking okay. i am not a retarded ps fanboy since i am bill gate's love child. i love microsoft. ps: leave my negative feedback button alone since i only got 4 precious bubbles left.

[LoydX-mas]

Classic! :)

[nice_cuppa]

with a disc of extra features including interviews and such.

normal version.
http://medialib.computerand...

special edition outer box.
http://medialib.computerand...

special edition inner box is on this article.

and the ultimate edition is the one with the helmet.

[devv05]

But you can see a Disc One, Disc Two ánd a Bonus Disc on the picture.

[nice_cuppa]

if single and multiplayer are on seperate disc it makes no difference to the game so it wouldn't matter.

i await bungie to clear this up.

it should happen fast.

## why does the attempted bad news for 360 threads come from german/french websites......is it so people cant read the article and cant dispute the claim !

[devv05]

There is an english translation button. Ok its Babelfish, but should be readable ;)

[Silver Bull3t]

If I have to move the bag of cheezie-poofs off my lap and actually GET UP to swap a disk I swear I'LL NEVER GAME AGAIN!!! This is Bullsh!t.

j/k, whoppiefuk if you have to swap a disk out. I'm sure (if you do) they made sure you only have to do it no more than ONCE per campaign.

You guys may be on to something with one disk for campaign, one for MP and one for bonus content. I'd prefer a disk swap to crap-asss load times due to heavy compression anyway. How bout 2 disks and no/less compression?

[SuperSaiyan4]

If Halo 3 is on two discs then awesome dont forget this is HALO 3 last part in the series! Its the finale! The huge final fight!

[Odion]

OMG, could this mean that the SP is actually going to be long, because i really don't want another Halo 2 length, i really want a good 15-18 hour FPS, and 2 disc really sounds bomb.

Also guys MP is prob the smallest aspect of the game cause really all you have are maps that are no where near the size of the SP so god yes this sounds bomb

[OC_MurphysLaw]

That actually could make sense if ...and I stress if they are planning on making multiplayer much bigger than what we have seen so far...in other words ...upped visuals and more maps, etc.

And no....having the two game types on seperate discs would not bother me as they are really two very different games when you think about it.

[Bill Gates]

Let Halo 3 lead the way into what will become the norm for 360 games in the near future. Multiple disks. It's either that or every review for 360 games will include the term "short game".

[PS360WII]

"great looking"

[gta_cb]

just remember that Bill Gates is a PS3Fanboy. yeh it COULD be multi disc but at the moment it is a rumour.

[IRISHCALIBER]

PC games have done this for some time, and I do believe that other console games in the past have also. Just because the PS3 charged you $200. extra in order to avoid this, it happens so infrequently that it doesn't even matter. I'm sure it will be isolated for some time to the split up of single player and multiplayer, better for us in the long run really.

On a side note to those that will be screaming this justifies Blu-ray, Oh yes, lets pay extra to use a 50 gig disc when all we needed was an extra 2 or 3 gigs of space, oh well start filling the rest with video. In reality they need the space on their PS3's 50gig disc to hold all of the uncompressed data that the Blu-ray reads at 1x speed, otherwise incredibly long load times!

[Yo Mama]

Yeah, but don't forget that EVERY pc has a harddrive. Where as, Bungie can't take the same approach to the 360 because not every 360 has one.

[Stray_Wulf]

Oh man how humiliating... a next gen console resorting to 2 discs LOL. unless of course the second disc is just some random little extras, then i can understand. But if the second disc is actually the game itself continued, thats humiliating.

[LoydX-mas]

1. changing a disc every 15-20 hours of gameplay
OR
2. trying to make an argument that changing a disc every 15-20 hours of gameplay justifies spending almost $300 more for a system?

[Saint Sony]

OMG YES... really humiliating! I wonder how we 360 users can stand it. Halo3 should be coming in 1 blu-ray disc!...ah damn forgot, there is no games coming to blu-ray discs or consoles that use them, humiliating indeed.

Seriously though, how does it matter if you have to change the disc? Why don't all games come in one and in the same disc, then I would not have to change the disc ever!.. wow.

[Dukester101]

how is it humiliating? dude, PC games have used 2 discs before and you dont here any gripe from them.

movies have used multiple disks, even dual layer DVDs!

stop complaining and being a fanboy... just accept the fact that it really doesnt matter, and you just want to cause crap

[THC PRITCHARD]

1 mp 1 solo simple

[rusgreim]

...worry about! I don't care if its 5 DVDs, at least the 360 has an actual game! PS3 fans are still waiting for ONE SINGLE AAA TITLE!

[dodgefate]

That is funny you say it like the game is out...

[Shadow Flare]

so if you zoom in too far with the sniper, do you have to change the disc? i kid. I imagine like other people have said, 1 disc is single player, the other is multiplayer maps. But yep, life for developers would have been easier if they had more storage to play with. I wonder how GTA IV for the 360 is coming along...

[Amplifier]

So it begins...

[closedxxx]

Personally, I would prefer 2 discs than some of the ridiculously long loading screens on the PS3. I've waited for nearly TWO MINUTES... not an exaggeration... for some loading screens to go away. One that comes to mind is Fight Night. When I rented it on the Xbox 360, the game loaded significantly faster. I'd guess nearly half the time.

So, if 2 discs gets all the content out there, I'll take it. Because for the amount of extra time I would wait for a huge amount of data to load, I could have hopped up and changed discs about.... 20 times

[Macdory]

Maybe the second disk is a giant patch to pull the graphics into the year 2007 ...

Playing teh demo at the moment, and the gameplay is great, but the graphics do need some work to compete with the likes of GoW, R6V, etc

[rusgreim]

Which means the graphics and textures are still being worked on. This is not a "Demo" indicating its a sample of a finished product, this is a beta which Bungie admits is several generations behind what they are testing in-house.

No slam on you, but I hear this all the time and it tend to be from people who don't understand that this was about testing network load, not about showing cutting edge graphics and showing their hand before sometime in late July.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

multiple disks is not going to be bad, Halo single player is not like GTA, its going to be much more linear. I am sure multiplayer is all in one disc, maybe somewhere near halfway in single player we need to switch disks, not too bad. Multiple disks sucks for open ended games like GTA4 and Mass Effect(if you played KOTOR you know why, gosh it would suck to change disk to go another planet, its great they fit it onto one disk) not games like Halo, Gears or even MGS(I have never played this game, did you ever have to play any level twice?)

[power of Green]

Single and multi player should always be on two different disc. I'M OUT!...

[IBLEEDBLU]

ur a door knob...what game rite now that was just released that us PS3 fans are missing out on??? all i ever here is "at least 360 has games to play" ok so when sept rolls around and PS3 1st year game ruin 360 2nd year games...and the amount of AAA titles start hitting the stores what will u be saying then?..and every1 here usally states after a comment like urs that they are gonna go play some gears of war which was released like a year ago therefore stating 360 has no real good games that were just released..

and dont even state forza2 or shadowrun...games are simply BRUTAL...im talking about must have eye dropping games...

didnt think so...i wouldnt be surprized if halo is 2 disc...it will start 2 happen...1st the towel now multi-disc lol

sometimes i feel sorry for u people that wasted all that money on a cheap60

[rusgreim]

And that reason is because you, not I, are a "doorknob."

What game, with widespread appeal, does the PS3 have coming out in September? The answer, is none.

Even GTA IV which is the successor to GTA III which was a HUGE title on the PS2 is multi platform. If 360 gets a price break and GTA IV along with Halo 3, Shadow Run Assasin's Creed, etc, the battle that you think you are fighting over how "awesome" your PS3 is will be over.

I have stated before that I think the PS3 is a better system. The problem is the games, the marketing, and the pricing of the PS3 will leave it losing in this generation of consoles.

PS3 fanboys are counting on FFXII and MGS4 to "save" the console and they are not games with widespread appeal.

I'm sorry, but you can't read the writing on the wall, and that makes me feel very sorry for you.

[Boon Tarkas]

We live in the here and now folks. Stop treating the PS3 future potential as if it is the second coming.

"Oh, when my PS3 comes back in full-force...look-out you x-bots and other evil do-ers!"

[heihoosilver]

one of my fav game was in 4 discs(panzer dragoon saga), and i love the game.
One way to MS stop with this sh!t from Sonyfans is to sell the HD-DVD ad-on for 50€ and enable it to play games.Almost if not all Xbox360 owners buy it.That is a master move from MS. Brting on Halo 3 no mater it has 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or more discs.

[Imknow1]

Had this been Final Fantasy related, the fanboys (meaning the Sony pawns) would be saying, " I don't mind. I absolutely love staying in this position getting my stink hole brutally pillaged; thank you so much Sony, may I have another?" :D

[Cartesian3D]

the reply value is in multiplayer.. and single player isnt openworld like GTA and its linear...

so HALO 3 has no problem with 12 disc single player and one for multiplayer.. I think HALO3 will be so much better than HALO2 in its time..

I hate console FPS .. but I feel sth inside that said : this is sth like HALO1 not 2 ..:)

after good reviews I will get it ..

[Charlie2688]

I dont mind multiple discs depending on the game, and only if the Halo 3 SP is actually long and not a short fest like Halo 2 and Gears of War

so basicaly Bungie the 2 disc better be worth it!!!

:P

[dork0783]

Why are people so lazy these days did any one forget that gamecube had two disc in some games but anyways FIGHT NIGHT TAKES 4 mins to load LOL!I even went to go take a piss by the time i came back it was still loading.MAn! ps3 takes FOREVER!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Didn't care on the Xbox, I don't care on the PC, don't care on the Game Cube, Dont care on the Playstation 2, Won't care on my Wii and so I don't care on my 360. Seems to me the only people who care are those who own Playstation 3s and they are greatly outnumberd.

[m000b1]

so why do you care when bad news comes out for the PS3? jesus wept people like you need to be gassed at birth.

[PS360WII]

I'm sorry PureGamer but I'm trying to figure out what part of this news is bad?

[PS360PCROCKS]

If their able to run MP on one and SP on another that's genius! Microsoft could do that to all games and I'd care less to swap a disk if I decide to get online.

[m000b1]

and if this was news about the PS3 everyone would be screaming at it.

[PS360WII]

Naturally everyone would be screaming about a 2 disc PS3 game beause they(sony) has a blueray player that is suppose to eliminate the 2 disc games.

[sonarus]

lol. do you expect all xbox games to be coming out in 2 discs for its entire life time. If that happened would you still say DVD 9 is enough. I mean common. I am glad the PS3 has 50GB option even though i don't feel 50GB is absolutely necessary but i know 9GB can't carry us very far. Sony did the right thing putting the 50GB option even though their motivation behind it might not be to help the consumer but in reality other than the high price point you are getting a good deal. The fact the PS3 has the 50GB option is good and not bad. But all in all i am glad halo comes with discs even though am sure the 2nd disc will jst be some commentary crap lets hope its not. Now i have a little more faith in believing halo 3 graphics will be better than BETA

[SmokeyMcBear]

wow.. just wow. Lets hope its the one disc multiplayer, one disc single player, that seems logical... i guess.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

1 disc campaign. 1 disc mp. otherwise it's all on one and the other is bonus content. But whats the big deal? I mean is it that horrible to get up and change discs? You get up to sh1t more often than you would need to change discs.

You Sony owners must be getting lazy. You can't get up like once a week off your cheeto-caked couch to change discs? Is that why you payed $200 dollars more for your console? So you could lay there in all your glory, in the nude of course, without having to change discs because you have the magnificent Blu-Ray!

[Pika-pie]

Halo 2 was on 2 discs wasnt it? one with special features. Its probebly the same with Halo 3

[Kastrol]

the only problem with double discs is you know how long each disc is gonna last in playing time if disc one has a max of six levels you know the amount of time and limit the second disc is gonna have

[weekapaugh]

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

360 = last gen

[Odion]

First year PS3 games!!!! are you a moron, you do realize that the PS3 is tech on its second year games as well, since it was suppose to come out 4 months after the 360, What your seeing is games that have been in devlopement for as long as second year 360 games.

Also post GOW here is a list of bomb games

CD
LP
Forza 2 is amazing sales figures agree with me
GRAW2

still enjoying your 2 games?

[Kastrol]

since xbox fanboys critcised the resistance for being 16gb and talked about developers filling up a blu ray as lazy developers

since bungie are microsofts top developers is it fair to claim there lazy developers for using 2 discs

the point im making is stupid fanboys(TheMart/THWIP)with the stupid comments need to shut up and stop making up crap

personally theres nothing wrong with a linear game in multiple discs
fps or rpg

better to have multiple discs than a short game

[TheSadTruth]

this would be great news.. it means the campaign is going to be AMAZING and very lengthy most likely

[IrishAssa]

honestly ,i did like the Gran Tourismo demo was good, well alright, but Forza Motorsport 2 is a lot more fun to play and is just as realistic and hard, actually if Gran Tourismo keeps the same A.I as before it won't be very good, the cars always go in the same line and speed in every lap , they don't mess up. p.s I'm comparing these two because these two are argued against each other all the time.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Hopefully. But I doubt it since both last games were pretty short. They discovered the names of the levels in the beta code didnt they. Wasn't it like 9 or 10 levels in campaign? But they could be huge levels nonetheless.

[Geohound]

If this is indeed true, this will be the setup for it. Which is kinda cool, you could let somebody borrow your single player game and still play multiplayer...

[IRISHCALIBER]

With all your poking fun at us because the natural progression is occurring, think of it this way!

I am getting more for my money with two discs!! Why? Because while I have already beaten the single player campaign, and am now onto the long lifespan of my Multiplayer disc, I can either loan it to a friend to play, sell it, trade it, or put it in a fricken frame if I want.

How many times do you have to be told that the XBOX 360 is all about choices, from the bottom up we make the decisions! Wait what is that I hear? A bell ringing? Sony must be calling all of you back to your consoles for you bizzilionth firmware update for a gameless console! Oh Lordy their they go! Stay in step boys!! Your Movie Console beckons!

[omansteveo]

We got an Email about this at work that said one Disc was a HD Calibrator Disc

[Monchichi025]

So what if you do gotta swap a disk??? It's NO big deal!

[Maddens Raiders]

the lost members of the Microsoft Protection Group. =]

"Fear not for your liberation is at hand. PLAY B3YOND" ..ok jokes and poking fun are still allowed in this world right? I wonder how many discs the 360 ver. of GTA will be on? I don't think it's that BIG of a deal, but I would like to know. No seriously.

EDIT: Nevermind shadowflare I see you've already raised the GTA question, but have not recv'd a response.

LOL - the Microsoft fans are just super sensitive about this. I just got a "DISAGREE"...LOL 4 wat!? I guess feelings really are hurt. Touchy, touchy...whew. Why the disagree??? lol =O)

Cheers

[Xbot_Killer]

DVD9 = OWNED

[anh_duong]

seriously two discs will always be better than one but if this is the case then all those who say one DVD is enough for nextgen games are wrong. nextgen games in a years time will often come in 2 DVD's. this isn't a bad thing - it just stating a necessary development for nextgen games.

[kenjix]

I love the fanboy talk, "I don't mind 2 different types of games on 2 seperate discs."

Cmon let's be honest if the Single and Multiplayer are on 2 discs it sucks, doesn't mean the game will suck, just means that if your stuck in singleplayer game and want to play some multiplayer for a change of pace, it's not as convenient. Just admit it, it's no big deal, but be honest!

Ease of use is put in one disc and have it all there.

@ 43 -
How many times do you have to be told that the XBOX 360 is all about choices, from the bottom up we make the decisions!

Let me know what choice you have when you want to stay on your couch and switch from multiplayer to single player or vice versa!

NONE! Get your Arse up and change that disc buddy :)

[THAMMER1]

I would rather have games on multiple discs than no games at all.

[IRISHCALIBER]

Do you know how long it would take to code a game that utilized 50 gigs of space for game play? As long as the projected lifespan of the Movie console itself!

Oblivion took 5 years to fill 9 gigs, so please stop diluting yourselves into believing your gonna get much more than extra HD cut scenes to fill the already tight space on your Blur-ray disc. Don't forget all PS3 data needs to be uncompressed in order to read at 1x without 5 minute load times.

But, thats the price you pay for the inclusion of your so needed Blu-ray, I'm not being sarcastic, really! What would a Movie Console be without Blu-Ray?

[TheXgamerLive]

.

[kenjix]

it looks like it didn't take too long to fill 9 Gigs for Halo 3 and Blue Dragon and from the sound of it GTA4.

Looks like you might need the choice for a multi dvd changer add on for your 360 soon :).

[kevoncox]

I like how ps3 fanboys just talk about 360 games. They neve talk about their own sytems... Looks like another boring summer. Wait GOW2 is hear to save you. Last gen fTW.

[IRISHCALIBER]

Therefore, I disagreed with you! You sound like a kid behind that big and burly name. Really no need to fuss over a disagreement after all that is what the options for. Oh wait, I forgot you probably aren't familiar with options being the Sony Fanboy you are! GTA and every other game will come to XBOX 360 with all the bells and whistles plus much, much more. Don't even get me started on 360's overshadowing online features and episodic downloadable content.

How how my Irish blood boils when dealing with ignorant buffoons, I mean Fanboys!

Sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone but this stuff needs to be said.

@Kenjix - That would be awesome I've wanted one for years! Please call Uncle Bill and suggest it. By the way the difference is obvious in the quality of game play and Game world, I'm into those deeper games you know! Oh and if you have any facts on those games you mentioned true developing times than please present with a link on your original insulting comment in the form of an Edit. I'll check back later. Thanks

@57.1 Bladestar -it makes perfect sense PS3 gamers would have a problem getting up and changing discs since they have had the same one in since launch. Zero choice is the worst to have to deal with. I almost feel some empathy for these guys, it must hurt real bad to have the whole gaming world laughing at you. :( Can I donate my loose change to your protection group? Please post a link!

@Maddens Raiders 55.2- Thanks for your concern but I don't indulge and my Unmyelinated neurons are just fine, Again my empathy goes out to you as I can see your understandings are limited to what your told, I will find compliment in your accusations of my being IRA / Sinn Fein. But you do have my spirit tagged correctly as mine is one of those that never bow to the will of Tierney. I am Super XBOX MAN!! LOL

[Maddens Raiders]

don't worry Irish Caliber no offense taken man. I think you need another drink though, your boiling blood is starting to ferment that rotten grey matter of yours. I know your raunchy love affair with the console of your choice compels you to speak for the top gamr disciples, but then again you wouldn't know what that means anyway mr. Irish come lately.

There was nothing to disagree with in my comment and if you're a man you would definitely agree. BUT I must presume that you're a booty hurt fangirl that (again) is compelled to fly the 360 flag and defend your console with your last dying breath. It's ok I understand, but please don't blow your ale tainted IRA rants all over me. Go JUMP IN an Irish Spring and cool the fuc off you baby Leprachaun. Don't you have some Protestants to hassle?

Now -- all of that that I just laid out is worthy of disagreement, but not the first time. Get it? Cool off there Sinn Fein.

Cheers

[S A G A T]

irish caliber < Pwned

[Mike134nl]

I don't mind multiple disks. Got used to it a long time ago with FF7 8 and 9 on my ps1.
I doubt that it will bother much people for swapping a disk after playing the halo beta, I am confident in bungy's skills.

[Weapon X]

that Halo 3 will be a monster title on the 360, but the fact that it's on more than one disc does wipe away a little of the luster ~ that being the "nex - gen" luster of gaming. I know a lot of the hardcore striker defenders will accuse me of flaming, but I thought disc changing was something relegated to current-gen drive capabilities, not Elite systems.

[BIadestarX]

Actually only a few people have a problem with changing disk. Only Sony fanboys have made a big deal out of that. I don't remember me having a problem changing a after 20 hours of game play which usually would translate to 2 weeks of gaming (at least to me... I have a job). To undermind this even further... I own more than one game. So, I see myself playing a game for 2 hours and then switching to another. So, if I am willing to change a disk to swich game and then having to wait until the game boots, company credits, menu... .... .... why would I have a problem with, "Please insert disk 2" and be ready to go? How does this affect game play? I mean, sure wow... I would love to have all my games on a single disk so I don't have to open the console's tray ever! ..mmm... isn't that how's is going to be when digital distribution kicks in? No more disk changing for the people that are lazy enough to change a disk!

People make a big deal over this and it's not even a problem... heck... I am sure you may have to go and take a piss, a dump or eat something which will require you to get your rear up before you finish the first disk.... does that mean you are not next gen?

Take a break, people... switching a disk from time to time is good for your @$$.

The best final fantasy ever made in my opinion was final fantasy 7 and the number of disk it had didnt turn off anyone from playing the game.

[Why o why]

agree. ff7 was the best and was on multiples but this is supposed to be next gen. look at the potential drawbacks not just the silly things fanboys say to get laughs. For a linear title its kool but for a different type of game altogether it may prove akward. Depends on how long and how bigger you think the games are gunna be in about 5 years. This is a tad too early for multiple disks. but i would prefer to have multi didks than a short ass game so make good with what you have until u cant make good of it any more.

[zonetrooper5]

Wow Sonyfanboys are at it again, please guys just go away. Halo 3 will not be on 2 disks. There are 3 versions of the game. These are:

Standard Edition: Just the game
Collectors Edition: The game and bonus disk with extra features.
Legendary Edition: Contains helmet, the game and the extra 2 disk which contain HD footage of Halo 1, Halo 2 and Halo 3 cutscenes, it also contains behind the scenes videos etc etc.

[MK_Red]

Blue Dragon is on 3 disks and its pretty good and enjoyable and multiple disks cause it no problem. Whats the big deal with Halo 3 being on 2 disks?

[Violater]

Dont mind me just enjoying the show

[eLiNeS]

is that there is so little of you PofS 3 fans to the Xbox 360 fans.

[snoop_dizzle]

really its no big deal, the means justify the end. I could give a Sh!t if i have to change disk.

I just want to play it.

At least thats me.

As joystiq.com put it when they posted a story like this,

"This is a dark day for us immobile couch denizens, with no ray of hope in sight. Could somebody hold us?"

My gosh the pain is just unbearable.

[ironwolf]

a flying fig about this are Sony kissups trying to defend their third rated system.

Give it up children, games have appeared on multiple disks for years; no one cares.

Now go find another broken cookie to whine about.

[S A G A T]

so much ado about nothing. Halo 3 will still get eaten up by the fans even it was on 10 discs. I just don't think people were expecting to see it this way [on 3 discs] and that's what the Sonyfans are going on about. Obviously the MS fanboys are also out with sharp knives to defend, so there is a bit of truth to the dismay. Maybe just a little embarassing. Just guessing.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Compared to the 5 seconds it takes to change disc and over all faster loading times on the 360, I bet in the long run the 360 still beats it. Not to mention that compressing large amounts of data into small places is just getting better and better with each release, "it's just going to get faster and faster (software)". You can't create a compression software for the Blu-Ray drive it would have to be retrofitted (hardware) to increase speed.

[SmokeyMcBear]

5 seconds to get up and put disc in, 2 weeks to receive replacement box and return broken console, and receive refurbished one. Hows that wait coming there jason, lets hope console #3 doesnt come to soon

[solidt12]

"what the f8ck, so when I switch from pistol to sniper I'll have to get up and swap the disk ? This is BS, bluray 50 gig 4ever ! "

I bought my Xbox 360 just to play Gears. Here it is a year later before another AAA game comes out and it is on two disc. Im glad I have PS3. At least they have 6 AAA games there first year that I want (Motorstorm, LAIR, WarHawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune) and a few possibles. and these are all exclusive. Microsoft doesnt come close. They have only 2 for sure exclusves, HAlo and Gears and even Gears can come to PS3 after Gears 2 unless they renew there agreement.

[Eagle Eye]

I wonder how many PS3 games will actually use the 50gb? I always liked multiple disks felt like you were getting more for your money.

[Devilbringer]

Bluray Pawns (Ading a third) Dvd

[Kyur4ThePain]

"Value for money" That is the funniest sh!t in weeks.

Look, this is not about having to get up to change disks.
This is about people b!tching before, saying there is no need for Blu-Ray / HD-DVD for games as DVD9 would be sufficient.

THOSE people (and you know who you are) need to step up now and say they were wrong.

But I guess that will never happen.

[Lex Luthor]

I heard that the 2nd disc is a HD calibration disk for HDTV's and not a 2 game disk.

[Rims]

Xbot defence force to the rescue!

Ya know, things break.

[Boon Tarkas]

"DVD9 -OWNED!"

Thanks for your limited insights. They made me laugh.

PS3 vs 360
Games available- Owned!
Cross-Platform Game Visuals-Owned!
BluRay vs. HD-DVD -wanting to play your sizeable collection of DVD's-Owned!

[Itachi]

Red Rings √
Next Gen Disc Scratching capabilites √
Multiple disc games √
Power Brick √
$50 charge for playing online √
Charging for free maps √
wired controllers √
crap looking games (e.g forza2) √
overpriced add ons √
loud fan √
disc tray √
hdmi 1.2 √
skus without hdmi √
skus without hdd √
DVD-9 √

[calderra]

Bungie has already confirmed the second disc is not a game disc. They'll have more updates in the Weekly Update tonight at bungie.net.

Sorry, anti-Xbox fans, but Halo 3 fits on one disc.

[SimmoUK]

So they cut the game down like gears of war and now you have to pay for downloadable content instead, man that sucks lmao...

[calderra]

Or it could have crappy textures, short campaign, AND co-op that isn't online like Resistance! Please consider both sides of an argument before trying to slam someone, please.

[BadTaste]

Gears of War is just over 6GB...

[DrPirate]

Wow you people go nuts over anything eh?

I'm still getting Halo 3, but I am a little pissed since my X-Box is 9 feet away and I like to make myself comfortable. Whatever, the game is still going to be good.

And for the record: I've never experienced long load times on my PS3, I don't know what drugs you guys are taking. Regardless, most games will allow a Hard-Drive install (Ninja Gaiden).

I don't really care for blu-ray, but multi-disk games this early can't be a good sign. I hated swapping disks for PS1 and I probably hate doing it now alot more since I sit much farther away from my tv thanks to wireless controllers.

[Rooted_Dust]

I would like to know how much does it cost the publisher per DVD9 disk and how much it cost per Blue-Ray disc.

[DrPirate]

Same here, that's a very decent question to pose. As far as I know, the discs are not that much more expensive, but the machine that prints them is. I'm not an expert so we're better off waiting until someone with knowledge answers.

[ApocalypseShadow]

is trying their best.and that's the reason we're laughing.

some of you kept saying bluray is not needed for games.but if true,this is a slap in your faces waking the fanboys up.

no one is saying 2 discs or more is bad.it happened last gen.and the gen before that.gran turismo was split into 2 discs.final fantasy was split into multiple discs.but now you fanboys can't say bluray is not needed for games.which technically is true.but which is better:

a disc that can hold ALL the content or one that has to split it all up?

i think the one that can hold it ALL is better.you can't spin it.you can make excuses all day.excuses about beta graphics.excuses about multiple discs.excuses about bluray load times compared to dvd.excuses.

oblivion and knights of the 9 ps3:one disc
if bluedragon was on ps3:one disc
stranglehold and hardboiled the movie(remastered) on ps3:one disc
if gears was on ps3 with extra content:one disc
forza 2 with the extra tracks that didn't fit:one disc

i'd bet halo3+multiplayer+bonus content would fit on one bluray disc.

but the excuse is"i get choice.""i could let a friend play singleplayer while i play multiplayer."EXCUSES.

bluray can hold all the language tracks
all the extra sounds
all the extra bonuses
all the extra textures
all the extra levels

50gig>9gig any day of the week.

"but,but,but......i don't mind gears of war 2 being on 2 discs."
that's the future for you.

[snoop_dizzle]

i was thinking what you were thinking about HDDVD as a gaming format.

It would have enough space for mostly any PS3 game and 360 game wouldn't it?
Tell me how many games would go beyond the space HDDVD has.

But anyways, that probably should've been what Msoft should've done. Made games on HDDVD.

Now as for me with the multiple disks thing, i don't really care considering i'm in arms length to my 360.

[calderra]

Nice job not looking at any facts whatsoever in that one. For example, Oblivion barely uses half of its disc, actually. You could probably fit Oblivion and the DLC for all of those other games onto Oblivion's disc.

Most games on both Xbox 360 and on PS3 can easily fit onto one DVD-9, even with their DLC. Just because a developer chooses to release a game first and DLC later doesn't automatically mean they couldn't have put it onto the disc.

Also, what about Motorstorm? Remember how PS3 fans (and I'm sure you as well) go on about how the tracks are so good it doesn't matter if they only included a very few? Shall we go there? Or how GT:HD is so good it doesn't matter if there's only one track because it's really fun to play? Hm?

[DrPirate]

I agree with all your point Calderra, but let us not digress, Gran Turismo HD Concept is a downloadable demo and totally irrelevant to Blu-Ray and DVD-9 discussion.

Your Motorstorm point is a very fair one however.

[DJ]

trees, foliage, etc. Most of the game time is also spent traveling.

If you want to compare game sizes, each level of Lair is the size of Oblivion's entire world -> 4 GB. Even Motorstorm, which only has 5 weather variations of its 8 tracks is over 11GB.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

1. Itachi- you smoke rocks

2. SimmoUK- Why are you so ignorant. Just because Gears of War blows away every game on the ps3 graphically and sales wise doesnt mean you have to make up bs and try to downplay the game.

3. shadow "some of you kept saying bluray is not needed for games. BUT IF TRUE this is a slap in your faces waking the fanboys up." Guess its not true as calderra said so basically you just typed all that bs for nothing which is also the reason why I wont even comment on all the other bs in your post.

What I cant understand is why are all you sony fanboys acting as if this is fact? And whats even funnier is that Halo 3 could be 50 discs and still sell more than any ps3 game.

[gano]

To leave them systems on guys will be switching between 3 disk
i just hope.....my....system....don't ...good game tho.

[DrPirate]

This is irrelevant but to all those saying: At least we get exercise.

Newsflash: I don't care about your game or your console of preference, but if you think getting up once every 5 hours is "exercise" and isn't inconvenient, you should slit your throat right now because your genealogy in the gene pool is a stain on mankind.

[Xboxsuckz]

Don't you Xbots ever get tired of this overrated piece of crap you guys call "Halo"??????

I can't wait till Killzone 2 comes out.

Xbots are gonna get pwnd:)

[BIadestarX]

So overrated yet look how many xbox haters including yourself.
If these two halo 3 disks were balls... I am sure you would be hanging from one of them.

[The BS Police]

and look how that one turned out, keep on dreaming, your only making yourself look bad.

[dale1]

if it has to have 2 discs already im sorry to say its xbox 360 has just been dated
well he,s good news for the ps3 the inclusion of blu-ray proves its point gears of war has maxed out the xbox in only 18 months a quote from them selves now if halo is on two discs bragging rights for the
ps3 jumps up one hundred fold
who wants a two disc ripping the p**s console street creed gone there and then

[Owner360-PS3]

My Oblivion , Collector edition has 2 disc's . Its probably just a 2nd disc for some video of how the games made and showing Bungie talking about the game. Who knows, wait and see.

[ApocalypseShadow]

i don't mind multiple discs myself.

i love shenmue1,euro shenmue 2,euro headhunter,skies of arcadia,resident evil 2 on ps1,fear effect ps1(where's hana at?)it doesn't bother too much.it's a hassle.but as a gamer,you manage.

but high def discs clearly have an advantage over dvd.and it's not to rub it in to regular fans of 360.just the fanboys who say bluray is not needed.

it kills the hassle of getting up from the couch or where ever you're playing to switch discs.

and second,devs don't have to make multiple region discs,don't have to make multiple discs,don't have to compromise their game in any way when you have more space.someone mentioned motorstorm.clearly motorstorm was rushed to get it on the market.it was in japan.and it was for us/euro release.ps3 needed more than one game.resistance wasn't enough.they had to finish the game.but the results were both sony games are the best sellers.

should microsoft have waited for hd-dvd?doesn't matter now.it is what it is.i wouldn't even make hd-dvd games.it would just be a waste.forcing gamers to buy the add-on just to play a game.

fanboyism aside,bluray is clearly an advantage the ps3 has over 360.gamers can make excuses.but it's the plain truth ruth.

[DJ]

Nope, it means that Bungie is obviously compromising their title in response to Microsoft's poor hardware decisions. The idea of swapping discs, waiting for the discs to load, and navigating separate UI screens just to hop between single-player and multi-player is absolutely ridiculous.

If PS3 and Wii gamers don't have to put up with this, why should 360 gamers?

[rusgreim]

Which shows you are either retarded, or haven't played the beta. The beta is DOWNLOADED to your hard drive, and NO files for the beta were included in the Crackdown release.

I know, maybe they could go to cartridge based so that load times are reduced, OR they could switch to Blu-Ray or HDDVD so load times take 5 minutes like the PS3.

[DrPirate]

You smoke crack. First, get a PS3 and play it. Not on any demo, downloaded game, or purchased title have I ever waited more then 20-25 seconds for a load.

Then again, people reference Fight Night, I've never played it, but I blame bad porting.

[Keyser]

I'll find out on the 26th of September.

[Ignorant Fanboy]

And other PS1 ansd Ps2 games.

We didnt have to swap discs alot, if the game was 3 discs, that means you changed discs twice.

And a game as long as FF, two disc swaps is no big deal.

If Halo 3 came on two discs that means I will have to swap discs only once.

[The BS Police]

How could they allready be prepping the discs when the game isn't done ye.

That alone just shows that this topic is speculation untill Bungie announces something.

[Eagle Eye]

But If you have a High Def T.V. I dont see why Blu Ray would have any kind of advantage over the 360 as far as picture quality goes anyways.
Blu Ray will just save you time you can put more on the disk.

And if you Dont have a HDTV then the Blu Ray technology as far as picture quality goes is useless. And that aint no Fanbase talking, thats just what I think. I own both of these consoles.

[CrazzyMan]

why this thread has so much comments? just because some people prefer switching disc ? Well, it is THEIR CHOICE.

[power of Green]

It's not the 360 thats flopping

[bootsielon]

What's embarrassing is that Microsoft ripped you Xbots off by crippling the GTA game by making Xbox 360 go with DVD last gen technology (even the dreamcast made a bigger jump over its predecessor) and for not making HDD standard out of the box. Same thing happens with Saints Row and Crackdown. Sony fans don't have to worry about that though, since they'll have Eight Days, The Getaway 3, and L.A Noire to take advantage of Blu-ray, not to mention that 2 days 2 vegas will benefit with Blu-ray and so will "The Darkness" (unlike Xbox 360 versions of the games of course).

You guys don't understand that game testing for more than one disc is more expensive, and packaging is too. That's why Metal Gear Solid 4 and FFXIII (and Versus) getting ported is highly unlikely (not to mention the added cost of re-coding and dumbing down cell code to run on the Xenos; even worse if it needs compression).

Also, sometimes game have to remain on one disc (that's why 2 days to vegas developers had an easy ride with the PS3, that's why GTA4 will be content constrained, that's why Crackdown and Saints Row aren't groundbreaking). Same thing happens with racing games, fighting games and sports games (that's why the next Winning Eleven will benefit from blu-ray by being 18 Gig big). If you can't fit all characters or teams or stadiums or scenarios with all the character endings (for fighting games, as an example), then your game has to be crippled somehow to fit on Xbox 360; not so on PS3 (or at least the limit is way bigger).

Having blu-ray means no need for compression, which means no need to have the processor take clock cycles for that task. Loading times for uncompressed info are reduced with the HDD. 360 has none. Of course sometimes this won't be used, but it's nice to have and not hinder developer's creativity and vision for the games they want to create. Like on the darkness for example, you need video (not in-game engine) for added realism on TVs, and high quality sound for in-game radios; you just can't generate everything on the fly, and videos sometimes work as art or to give an idea that just can't be generated in game, or it can be, but it's just not practical (or it saves processing power to pre-render some things). Ever seen the huge TVs in PlayStation Home? That's an example of how it works. Again, it's not needed, but it's a nice asset to have, just in case, something Xbox 360 will never have.

I don't expect you Xbots to ever remember or care about the benefits of Blu-ray anyway, much less to do your research and to have an open mind. You're just too stupid to get this through your numbskulls anyhow. Blu-ray + HDD are a blessing to the already great combo that RSX+Cell is. Of course Xbox 360 has some strengths, but not as many as PS3. Too bad for you kiddos.

And power of green, It's not that 360 isn't flopping? JAPAN rings some bells. Are you stalking that poor girl anyway?

[Drew]

This game is going to be epic.

[Eagle Eye]

I dont know I've heard some many different stories about the abilities of these consoles. I dont pay no heed to any of it anymore. I will only believe what I see and thats all their is to it nothing more.

Action over Words I think will be the order of the day.

[Bloodmask]

Are people so lazy they can't change a disk? Whats next, the game plays itself for you.

[THE TERMINATOR]

Jason xg1 "with poor load times on PS3" HAVE YOU PLAYED OBLIVION. THE PS3 VERSION HAS BASICALLY HALF THE LOAD TIMES COMPARED TO THE 360. THE 360 VERSION IS UNPLAYABLE WITH CONSTANT LOOOOOOONG LOADING TIMES. IVE PLAYED BOTH VERSION AND THE 360 IS A JOKE SO PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ARGUMENT. YOU HAVE BEEN PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[omansteveo]

LIKE I SAID EARLIER I GOT AN E-MAIL AT WORK SAYING ITS WOULD INCLUDE A CALIBRATOR DISK! Whether this is it or not i dont know im just stating that it could and i got disagreed with, for what? trying o help?...The email said it would be three disc a..1.Game 2.Making/Bonus and 3.HD Calibrator Disc...im not making this up.

[00]

This does not make sense if it is only for the legendary package or limited edition.

If you use commen sense you'd proply think somethings not right.

[kspraydad]

“Can you comment on Halo 3 being on two discs?”

“Eh!?” says I. “The game’s not done yet Claude, it could ship on one disc, it could ship on five flippin’ discs.”

“Yeah, but Amazon shows the collector’s edition has three discs, and two of them are game discs,” says Claude.

Sure enough, I go to Amazon and there it is, in full color. So, first off, let me clear it up for you:

The Collector’s Edition picture erroneously shows that it ships with a Bonus Content disc and a Game Two disc. Incorrect. It’s a mistake at MS’ end and we’re updating retailers with the correct image. The “Game Disc 2” shown in the art actually refers to an interactive Bonus Content disc. It’s an Xbox “executable” (think of it like a menu-driven disc, similar to the Official Xbox Magazine cover disc) and internally, has always been referred to as “Game Disc 2” because it has to go through the same certification process as Halo 3 itself. That was somehow communicated to MS retail marketing verbatim. Hence the error. No big deal.

The Legendary Edition comes with two extra discs. The “executable” interactive disc listed above, and a Bonus Content DVD – the one pictured incorrectly with the Collector’s Edition. Confused? No wonder.

The upside of that is the “Game Disc 2” itself. Because it’s an Xbox 360 disc and not a DVD, almost all of the content it contains is in hi-def (if your TV supports it). And some of the content is pretty spectacular. Now to clarify: Both premium editions, Collector’s and Legendary, come with the interactive disc. Only Legendary comes with the DVD.

The Collector’s edition includes a bound “art book” called the Bestiarum – a guide to the species and civilizations of the Halo Universe. Legendary Edition purchasers get an expanded multimedia version of the same material, with far more art and illustration, most of which has never been seen before and won’t appear anywhere else. And that’s built into the DVD Bonus Disc along with other materials.

Legendary also features an exclusive printed collection of storyboards from the game cinematics, by Bungie’s own Lee Wilson.

So here’s the real breakdown for each edition and remember, ALL of these items are subject to change or replacement.

Regular Vanilla Edition:

Includes Halo 3 for Xbox 360 and a manual. And obviously hours, days, weeks and months of hi-intensity Halo joy.

Halo 3 Collector’s Edition:

* Collectible Metal Case
* Halo 3 for Xbox 360
* Bestiarum: A hard cover, bound collection of information and art covering the species, cultures and civilizations of Halo 3.
* On the Interactive Xbox 360 Bonus disc (included in both Collector’s and Legendary editions):
o Hi-Def Halo: Bungie’s graphics and audio engineers have created a simple to use, Halo-themed calibration tool to make the most of your Home Theater experience.
o Art Attack: Exclusive Halo 3 Gamer Pics and Dashboard theme, a vast gallery of concept and production art (complete with musical accompaniment) and a fully playable version of a classic Halo-themed mini-game.
o Featurettes: A series of short films covering a range of subjects, from making your Network play nice with Multiplayer, to the challenges of building the biggest Halo ever.

Halo 3 Legendary Edition:

Inside the Halo 3: Legendary Edition

* Fully sculpted Spartan helmet: The most collectible piece of Halo merchandise ever conceived. An accurate model of the Spartan Mjolnir Mark VI helmet.
* Halo 3 for Xbox 360
* Legendary Disc: Found only in the Halo 3: Legendary Edition, this Disc is a DVD disc that will play in your 360 or on any DVD player and features a wealth of rich, unique and exclusive content. Contents include:
o Halo Cinematics Reloaded – completely remastered, hi-res versions of the Halo and Halo 2 cinematics with 5.1 audio and complete with optional “Director’s Commentary” track featuring Marty O’Donnell, Joseph Staten and Jason Jones.
o Bestiarum – an expanded digital guide to the creatures, cultures and worlds of Halo 3, with art and assets exclusive to this interactive edition.
o The Cortana Chronicles – Jen Taylor, the voice of Cortana, takes us on a tour of the worldwide Halo fan community ,where she meets Halo fanatics from near and far, obscure and famous alike.
o Plus: All-new, exclusive Machinima episodes from Red Vs. Blue and This Spartan Life and a novel “mockumentary” voiced by Sgt. Johnson himself, David Scully.

* On the Interactive Xbox 360 Bonus disc (included in both Collector’s and Legendary editions):
o Hi-Def Halo: Bungie’s graphics and audio engineers have created a simple to use, Halo-themed calibration tool to make the most of your Home Theater experience.
o Art Attack: Exclusive Halo 3 Gamer Pics and Dashboard theme, a vast gallery of concept and production art (complete with musical accompaniment) and a fully playable version of a classic Halo-themed mini-game.
o Featurettes: A series of short films covering a range of subjects, from making your Network play nice with Multiplayer, to the challenges of building the biggest Halo ever.

So there you have it. If the contents of the editions change (which is always a remote possibility when you’re making something this complex) we will keep you apprised. But as of this afternoon, that’s what’s planned to be in the boxes.

[Diselage]

I'm glad this rumor is already put to bed. I honestly can't imagine Microsoft allowing their baby to be put through the shame of two disc like that.

[RioGrande]

That’s really strange. I remember when 2 disc games came out for the GameCube and Xbox fans said “that’s stupid.” What’s with the switch in argument?

[kingboy]

ahhh! still remember how one would change cassette tapes from Side A to B way back then hahaha! The worlds changing people,so please catch up with it

[JohnCarpenter]

Still the PS3-only players sadly have no games to play and spend their time adding 360-comments ;-).
Even if it would be true (is not) i don't care a pap for it. Some of the best games ever have been on multiple discs.

[IPlayGames]

This is just the beginning.

This type of game no bother but when it starts getting to open world then its gonna suck.

FFVII great game 4disk.

[Dogswithguns]

Halo3 has two disk?!....If it were using the bluray, it's only gonna use only one, one disk ya hear?! LOL

[FirstknighT]

I rather have 2 discs than spend an additional $200 :)

[Hayabusa 117]

This "speculation" has been put to rest. Halo 3 the game will be on disc. Go read the Bungie update.

The extra content sounds awesome though.