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Moore's law will outlive most fab companies

The continued race to the bottom, or in this case to the smallest possible die size, is going to weed out all but just a few foundry players in the next few years. Gartner projects that by the time semiconductor process technology reaches 8 nanometers, there will only be four to eight left.

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Nihilism5324d ago (Edited 5324d ago )

Sad but true. The bigger companies always get bigger, and the smaller ones get swallowed up. This far along in the cpu/gpu game as well i can see intel climbing to the top as far as complete solutions go, with larabee, and who knows what nvidia/ati will do one they get to 1nm size, surely die shrinks are the cheating way of making a better card than the competition, beat them to the punch, and i definately don't see any new players coming along, i'd love to see some of larger computer hardware manufacturors branch out though, gigabyte for example making their own graphics cards separate from the ati/nvidia lines. Surely they have enough experience to do so.

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EDIT: there is a serious drought of tech news on n4g, but the trouble is, there isn't much worth submitting, we need gt300 to hurry the F up so the article wars can begin....then cue ati die shrink, then cue ati dual pcb....then cue nvidia die shrink, then OMFGWTFBBQ i9 might be out, then nvidia dual pcb, good tech coming up soon people's, keep your eyes peeled and your wallets open

dragonelite5323d ago

Dont think n4g is really a good place to have a discussion about tech have you seen what the fanboys are sprouting out of there ass.

I myself sometimes go along in those fan boys war but the IQ in those discussions is rather low if i want to get technical i go to Beyond3D at least most of these guys have knowledge about how stuff works.

Pandamobile5323d ago

Nanotube just sounds awesome :P

MetalFreakMike5323d ago (Edited 5323d ago )

I usally keep up with new tech but it costs too much. Upgrading every six months to a year just is not worth it sometimes. I have a Phenom II 955 3.2 Ghz Black Edition Quad-core processor, with DDR3 4 GB ram and a GTX 260 core 216 896 mb video card. This build is going to last me atleast a year and a half before I want to upgrade again because I can not afford to be shelling out money on computer parts and games for my ps3 and 360 at the same time.

INehalemEXI5323d ago

I only upgrade or rebuild the rig when a great game requires it and so far I am still good.

Nihilism5323d ago

I have a similar rig

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4 gig ddr2
gtx 280

the fact is that i7 etc doesn't give you abny extra performance in gaming, my next upgrade will be a new gpu, and i will wait for the die shrink of the next high end single pcb nvidia card, after that F it , i'm gonna wait 5 more years

z1ck5323d ago

have a q9450 2.66 ( not overclocked because of weak cooler )
4 gb ddr2
hd4870

maybe i will buy a 5870 but the processor and ram are fine since my maximum resolution is 1280 1024 and games like farcry 2 only use 600 to 800 mb ram and im still waiting for a game that use all my 4 cores and when they use i buy a 40 dollars cooler to overclock

btw nice rig MetalFreakMike

AuToFiRE5323d ago

my computer is old, i overclocked my AMD 4200+ X2 to 5.4ghz witha locked processor (i used the northbridge for those who think its impossible) to truly increase speed and performance of any computer, you get a faster hard drive, the hard drive in todays computers are the bottleneck, some day moores law will break, and someday people will realize faster hard drives will always equate to a faster computer

zagibu5323d ago

@ AuToFiRe: The harddrive rarely matters in games. In most games, shorter level load times is all you get from a faster hard drive.

AuToFiRE5323d ago

hard drive speed is an extremely critical piece, you can have the fastest processor in the world, but it only works at the speed of your slowest device whihc is the hard drive, which pumps out a mere 384 megs/s on a SATAII configuration, which means anything coming out of that hard drive will only be processed at that speed. Yes, you have RAM but RAM doesnt have everything in it. with a faster hard drive combined with the RAM you can have gigs more data on screen than you can have in your RAM, leaving the RAM free for higher texture sprites, more variations of foliage, etc. thats why we have RAM in the first place, because the hard drives are too slow.

zagibu5321d ago

You obviously have no idea how games and computers work. Sadly, this doesn't hinder you from posting complete bullshit.

If you don't believe me, you can do the test. Buy a slow laptop-harddrive, install Windows and Crysis and check your FPS. Then buy an ultra-fast WD Raptor or even a solid state disk and put it in the same system. Install Windows and Crysis and check your FPS. They will be exactly the same. Why? Because Crysis, like many other games, only accesses the hard drive during level load.

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Shadowstar5323d ago

Hm. I tend to think of Moore's Law as the more encompassing one that, according to Wikipedia, is really Kurtzweil et al's misappropriation. Funny, that.

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Assassin’s Creed Shadows Launches November 15, Features Dual Protagonists in Feudal Japan

Set in 16th century Japan, Assassin’s Creed Shadows will star Japanese shinobi Naoe, and real-life samurai Yasuke.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz3h ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate1h ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

gold_drake2h ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

shadowT1h ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

ocelot0728m ago

I'm hoping for age of empires

Skuletor27m ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff218326m ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot1h ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

Obscurity49m ago

More fake doom and gloom about a 3 trillion dollar company

shinoff218325m ago

It's probably true though. What's fake about Ms releasing games on ps. It's not like it didn't just happen. 2 of the 4 they released were in Playstations top seller list.

Obscurity21m ago

Xbox has been leaving gaming and leaving hardware for 20 years according to Sony fanboys 😂😂

Hofstaderman16m ago(Edited 15m ago)

Bet you Blade is coming to the PS5. Disney probably insisted on it thats why they being silent on whether its exclusive. I'm more excited for the Gears and Master Chief collections though.

Obscurity15m ago(Edited 14m ago)

I hope blade does come to PlayStation. Gears and halo should too.

Let PS fans fund Xbox and gamepass. Xbox is dominating the PlayStation store 👏

Good for Ps fans too - PS don’t dev games anymore

0hMyGandhi22m ago

ah yes, the classic "too big to fail" mentality. That served us well in the past.
This article is not all doom and gloom.
I highly suggest you read it before posting a comment here based on the headline alone.

solideagle21m ago(Edited 20m ago)

are you Obscure user's child? or an alt account created today?

it's not doom and gloom for MS, it's for Xbox...Ms will be fine on it's own. when we will look back at the history of Xbox (hardware) from higher level, it will be marked as failure majority of the time.

Obscurity17m ago(Edited 16m ago)

It failed so much they got 69bn dollars to go shopping.

Damn, I wish I could fail so much someone would give me 69bn dollars! 😂😂

Skuletor20m ago

A trillion dollar company with a gaming division currently mired with controversy, layoffs, studio closures, an uncertain future, mismanagement and admittance they can't handle all the studios they've acquired among other things. I think the main focus of this news on this site called News 4 Gamers, would be focusing on that gaming division which IS looking kinda gloomy lately.

Obscurity17m ago

Sony are doing all of the above too, despite “record sales”

Obscurity11m ago(Edited 9m ago)

Layoffs and studio closures are whataboutism? Okay 😂😂

Imagine selling that many consoles and having to do layoffs at insomniac, your most successful studio 💀💀

Unhealthy business. I’m concerned for PlayStations future.

Skuletor4m ago

More whaboutism. On the topic of Sony, since you brought them up, remind me of when they spent billions on a publisher they later admitted they weren't equipped to manage, despite Phil Spencer saying acquisitions are good for the industry and resulted in mass layoffs and studio closures, even for a studio with one of their highest rated exclusives in years, which according to Microsoft themselves, met their expectations.

Obscurity0m ago

Making that much money and closing studios and doing layoffs.

PlayStation is doomed 💀

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Obscurity16m ago

Indeed! Facts are obscure!

Unknown_Gamer579412m ago

MS as a company will be fine. Xbox isn’t so secure though, as its status is dependent on how profitable its parent company thinks it is. Current trends suggest that MS sees more profit in making Xbox third party, and I’ve heard the box itself is actually losing them money.

If these things are true, the future of Xbox as a console manufacturer is certainly being called into question. Perhaps being a third party publisher instead would be a better strategy for them.

Obscurity11m ago

Sony and MS are both going third party.

Pc and Steam has killed consoles

Skuletor0m ago

Millions of people are going to choose consoles over a PC due to simplicity, I don't see consoles disappearing anytime soon.

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Classic Puzzler Riven Confirmed for Meta Quest

Cyan Worlds has confirmed that its remake of classic 90s puzzler Riven is coming to Meta Quest headsets this Summer.

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