Hey Microsoft, How About an Xbox 360 Hard Drive Upgrade?

Matt Peckham writes,

"That's it, my Xbox 360's out of gas. I've officially tottered Over The Edge. The formerly formidable 120GB hard drive clapped on top of my vertically oriented unit's finally shuffled past the point of practical capacity. I've migrated my MP3s to external drives, scrubbed the video files and demos and superfluous cosmetic downloads, and dropped all the full-install games I can stand to live without down the rabbit hole. It's not enough. Not even close. Grand Theft Auto IV's eating up 9GB. Oblivion and Fable 2 have 8 a piece earmarked. Mass Effect and Sacred 2 are pushing 6 or 7 each. Lost Odyssey's first two discs alone are holding 11-plus in reserve. And yes, I really am actively chipping away at another dozen besides.

This, despite sacrificing an arm, a leg, and a pile of good ol' common sense to get my hands on Microsoft's $150 (that's $1.25 per gigabyte) Xbox 360 hard drive upgrade late last year--just in time for the company's New Xbox Experience."

[-MD-]

Still haven't filled up my 20GB since launch. I have like 30 arcade games and 4-5 DLC map packs for multiple games.

Complaining about 120GB? Delete some of that useless crap on there.

[rodrz34]

That's probably because there has been no AAA exclusive on 360 since last november.

XBLA crappy arcade games don't take that much space.

[Jack Klugman]

yes listen to rod the f@ggot he spends all his time in 360 articles instead of playing all those aaa games.

say fatty isn't it lunch time? what a shame i cant reach across the internet and punch you in the face and then punch your mom in the face for having such a waste of skin.

[rodrz34]

You look butthurt Jackbot, looks like 2009 was hard for you.

Don't feel bitter, Turn 10 will soon announce what they removed next in their arcade racer, after weather, night racing and rally.

Keep the faith.

[-MD-]

What do 360 games have to do with the HDD? Saves are like 150kb or less.

[Jack Klugman]

im not the droid in an xbox 360 thread spreading BS. you gotta troll because the ps3 is the joke of this generation. A JOKE!

[Boty]

not even 100 gigs yet of my 500 gigger. 70 something bucks for a 500 gig hardrive for my ps3. really not that expensive.

[ambientFLIER]

"Don't feel bitter, Turn 10 will soon announce what they removed next in their arcade racer, after weather, night racing and rally."

Were all those originally supposed to be in Forza 3, and then were cut?

[condorstrike]

talk about a fanboy, question to the author...
is a console really worth $600?

yes, the HD is expensive, but unless you're saving all your games in it, then 120G is more than enough for what the X360 needs.

" I dropped a 160GB 5400RPM hard drive in my PS3 last summer and it's been cooking along like a champ since"
rightttt.......

install 3 blue-ray games on there and you run out of space.
this guy is a schmuck, writing the same story that dozens have written in the last 2 years.

[crck]

I've never seen a ps3 game install more then 5gb. So wtf are you talking about? Plus if he does run out of space on his ps3 hard drive he can buy a 320gb 7200 rpm drive for $70 or buy a 500gb hard drive for $90 (yes 500gb with a 3 to 5 year warranty and still 40% cheaper then the 360 120gb drive). Quit being a stupid fanboy and admit MS needs to add a bigger hard drive option and drop the ridiculous prices. That way all gamers benefit.

[gaffyh]

@1.2 - Exactly. When MS announced the full retail downloadable games and installing games to the HDD, they must have thought about the fact that 120GB is not enough for an entire library of games?

I'm sure they'll release a new SKU soon, but it would have been much better if they simply allowed 3rd parties to also build HDDs for 360. That way there would be cheap HDDs and no MS ripoff pricing. I'm sticking with my 20GB until the pricing get's a LOT cheaper.

[thereapersson]

Do you even know what the hell you are talking about? 3 blu-ray games at an average of 5 GB an install (and that's being generous does not equal 160 GB.

It's obvious that your trolling ways don't allow you to think properly. But please, do us a favor and TRY rational thought for once.

[a_squirrel]

Personally, I'd rather depend on Sony than Microsoft....

So why do i have and xbox360?

[Arnon]

Lol you guys are too literal. The point he's trying to get at, is that the PS3 uses a lot more HDD space than a 360 does, hence the reason why they allow you to upgrade it. 120gb on a 360 is MORE than enough space. a game, at max, on a single disc, is only 9gb. And most of them are only 7.5 at the most.

[edgeofblade]

Shmuck indeed. How do you load your console up with 3 year old game installs and say "I can't free any more space.... oh noes"?

Start with the games you aren't playing...

[AAACE5]

I don't feel so bad because I just bought a 120 Gb Hdd for my 360 for $25 from Craigslist a couple months ago, but if you want to put all of your games on there... you need more space!

I think they will release a bigger HDD along with a new SKU later this year. If they don't, we could see something happen in the later part of 2010.

[CrazedFiend]

My PS3 sports a 500GB internal HD that I got for about $80 when I lived in Japan (Softmap Nagoya). I've got about 20Gigs left on it, but I also have 1TB hooked up to it externally for my media archives and more drives I can move to it if I ever need to.

That's why my X360 is (and until MS rethinks their propriety HD pricing, ALWAYS will be) without a HD.

[Marcelles25]

its not upgradeable with third parties which hurts to buy a 60g one let alone a hundred and 20

and developers like hard drives so they can do mandatory installs sometimes they are a good thing

and the only reason sony lets you buy external harddrives is because the whole playstations os is DESIGNED that way. to let import movies music photos and its a universal system you can install linux on it which is a plus, for me at least.

[Poopface the 2nd]

But he hates the lound noise. why doesnt he turn up the volume. My old 360 was noisy but with even a little volume I couldn't hear it. Maybe he sits close to his 360. Hes a pc guy, so he should be used to loud comps, as they are usually louder and are usually closer to you.

I think microsoft is keeping the HDs too expensive, probably because they need a reason to charge more for the pro and elite. Im waiting for the prices to go down before I upgrade my 360 HD. Id probably be ok wiht a 60 gig though as I wouldnt install many games, and probably only really use it for some DLC, which I could delete when Im done.

Microsoft would have to be really stupid not to release bigger and cheaper HDs, as now they are trying for DD. not to mention all the crap that they have for DL now. Its pretty obvious they would make more in the long run cause people would actualy be able to DL stuff.

[Arnon]

Exactly... the only reason the man who is writing this ran out of HDD space is because he tried to from the sound of it.

[jack who]

got mine 4 75$ ah

[ShadowCK]

Agreed. Only an idiot would complain about that.

[kaveti6616]

Microsoft is using a specific kind of Hard Drive rather than a general SATA hard drive. I don't know why they did this, but it's the reason why the hard drive costs so much. Sony's PS3 allows for normal laptop SATA drives of any size. It's just another flaw of the 360, I suppose. Microsoft probably didn't anticipate how much space gamers would need for all their games, their pictures, their music, their game files, their demos, the arcade downloads, and so on. Next generation Microsoft better have a large harddrive, standard. I'm thinking 500 GB to 1TB. If they go for more digital distribution, 2 TB to 4TB.

[DevastationEve]

There's nothing special about it, they just have a special lock to prevent drives that aren't authorized by Microsoft.

Yeah, silly I know :\ Jeez, if Dell, HP, Gateway, IBM, Alienware, and Toshiba don't mind letting you upgrade you HDD I don't see why Microsoft should. But then again consoles have generally been closed architecture machines.

edit:

I'm all for HUGE reform over at Microsoft. For instance, have you guys checked out the "Xbox Live Terms of Use and Privacy Statement"?

Let me tell you something, "statement" isn't the right word. More like 12 page college term paper :\

[dirthurts]

I've had one open and played with it. Standard laptop drive. Sure it has a funky adapter hooked to it, so it can plug into the 360. But other than that, very standard 5400rpm drive. Just like Sony. That's why I refuse to upgrade mine.

[Kushan]

Microsoft doesn't use specific drives at all, they use a variety of 2.5" Laptop Hard drives, the difference is they have a special security sector on them so that the 360 will use them. It's not needed, it's a bit like DRM for Hard Drives. Other than that, the drive is just a standard drive.

[Traveler]

The hard drive isn't a custom drive at all. It is a standard 2.5" SATA HDD that is the standard for every laptop in the world. Microsoft charges you $100 above market value for their "custom" HDD.

[DevastationEve]

Traveler, you can always just buy the Arcade console and find an old 20GB on ebay. Or find someone who's planning on upgrading to the 120 and buy their old 20GB or 60GB.

For me, I personally don't need 500GB on my console. I have a home network, a laptop, a desktop, external hard drives, and USB memory sticks and SD cards. Plenty of storage in my house :)

Not too mention the vast archives of CD and DVD stacks in the garage.

[kaveti6616]

I had read that the drive was from HP or something. I meant specific as in you cannot add every available SATA drive you want. I don't know why they made it that way.

[KingKionic]

I think Microsoft should at least cut the costs of the current drives and bring out a 320 drive.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Why not a 360 drive.

[KingKionic]

Thats....what i meant.

[phosphor112]

or maybe not? They don't make 360 gigs...also. As of current, the Xbox 360 won't read anything larger than a 120..so they'd need to update their firmware for a larger HDD support.

[Fishy Fingers]

He's moaning that he's burnt up 120GB? Hardly anyone juggles that many games at one time. Delete a few. The installs are optional, how about using the disc.

I guess it's down to Western Digital that I've used up all my PC HDD space to.

[MetalGearBear]

i have 400GB on my xbox360, sadly my xbox360 is on fire then boom.

[divideby0]

I refuse to pay MS a rip off price to upgrade my 3rd 360s 20G drive.
Meanwhile my PS3 has a 120G drive, which I got for like 70 bucks and I have an external 250G drive.....
open hardware ownz....MS look and learn.

[Kushan]

Open Hardware doesn't make Sony any money. Closed hardware does, however, make Microsoft a LOT of money. I hate it as much as you, I find the prices of most 360 hardware absolutely disgraceful, but I completely get why Microsoft does it: It's just good business.

Capitalism, eh?

[Traveler]

Yep, and capitalism also means that the buyers have a choice of what to buy. I haven't upgraded my 20GB HDD on my 360 because I refuse to pay those kinds of exorbitant prices. Sony should be rewarded for their more consumer-friendly approach.

[Kushan]

Ahhh but there we are, Capitalism works on an open market, but when the market is closed, people can easily take advantage of it. This is why you don't want a "one-console generation". This is why no matter what console you prefer, you should always support the competition and not just be a sad fanboy. Do you think the PS3 would be as open as it was if it wasn't for the 360 coming out a year before it? Do you think the NXE would have even existed had it not been for the Nintendo Wii? Do you think that either the PS3 or the 360 would have received the firmware updates they have had it not been for the other?

[PiTCHBLaCK]

+Bubbles, good comment, that should sum everything up.

[Sleebs]

I have a 20GB still and it's just a matter of what you make most of your time on the 360. I only copy games to my hard drive because I don't like the loud spinning disc tray or causing any trouble to it in the future. If I play one game, I'll delete something else I don't currently play, it's not that troubling. And again, I'm using a 20GB.

[DevastationEve]

I go with the "logical" approach: you can only actually PLAY one game at time, hence you only need to INSTALL one game at a time. And even multidisc games can be played that way as well on a 20GB HDD, just install the disc you need.

[supaflypriest1]

You are exactly right. I do the same thing with the 20 gig. I also have a home network, so I stream all of my media, movies, MP3's, and pictures. It would be nice to have more space, but I can work with 20 gigs...

[Kushan]

I've got a better suggestion: Microsoft, release a 360 HDD drive shell and let those with a tiny bit of technical knowledge use their own Hard Drives.

[Jack Klugman]

this is what they should do. but if this guy really has 120gigs of crap on his drive he has some data management issues.

[Kushan]

Indeed he does, I don't buy this article at all, I've had a 120Gb HDD since September last year and I've barely used half of it - and I install a lot of games.

[Tinted Eyes]

i could buy a cheap laptop HD and swap it if i need extra space

Oh wait....

[condorstrike]

Microsoft did it good with their HD, only 1 after-market hd can be used and that's risking getting banned, and no I'm not knocking the ps3, actually I think all consoles should be able to accept all types of HD's, shoot even the Wii will take hard-drives over 1-terrabyte, that's with Homebrew and Loader, not OEM.

I'm just saying this is a stupid article and this guys is just re-writing an old story, Microsoft has no need to bring in a new hard-drive in the same manner the Nintendo screwed everyone with the SD-cards, once again, the guy is a Schmuck...LOL...love that word.

[DailyAddict]

one thing i never understood about the 360 and it's "full game" installs... if it's the full game, why does the disk still have to be inserted to play the game? If the full game is installed, it makes little sense that the disk needs to be inserted to play. I'm assuming that the read parameters on the disk are not installing to the drive (perhaps to prevent piracy) and that portion needs to be read on the disk.

Anyway, unless you're an idiot, MS needs bigger and cheaper drives. Perhaps your own PERSONAL preferences you don't see it necessary (because maybe you don't actually use the hard drive like other do), but for those that do use the drive (like myself) Microsoft's current business model is a joke. The drives are too small and are triple the price in comparison to what a standalone drive would cost. MS's claim of it being a special drive has also been debunked in the past when people cracked open the casing to see that it was just a standard laptop hard drive that Microsoft surrounded in cheaply built plastic and added a triple increased price tag on.

I bought my 360 with the 120gb hard drive (the elite model) but I won't be investing in a $200 hard drive from MS that's overpriced and small in stature.

MS will of course release a new drive when Games on Demand hits. My guess is either a 250gb or 320gb. If they go by their current pricing, they will release a 250gb at the same $199.99 price tag. Still overly expensive. Even a 320gb at $199.99 is a ripoff when that drive is less than $100 for PS3. Either way, they need to get over the whole $1.00+ per GB model and get with the program.

But then, apparently there are plenty of stupid people that think it's fine or just don't know how much they are getting ripped off.

[DevastationEve]

Because they're taking a hard line against piracy. And so would anyone else, having the disc is proof that you purchased the game. Now that DLC and games on demand is taking off things are going to get better, since it's all closely tied to your XBL account. Yeah, try to screw over the games on demand service and you'll most likely get fined, since you'll be identifiable.

[KingKionic]

Wow...i didnt have to reply...

oh wait i did.

^__^

[PiTCHBLaCK]

not sure why 5 people disagreed with you, I Guess
some people do like paying a couple of hundred $
for a hard drive, nobody even explains why It's so
expensive, they just beat around the bush and blindly
choose not to notice the price.

[themyk]

500gig ps3FTW.

[-MD-]

Overkill much? My 40GB will last me through the entire generation easy.

[themyk]

Not overkill. I've got over25 psn games a few ps1 games probably 30 demos or more probably 50 gamevideos. Well over 1000 pic. And a huge music catalog. Why not put a 500 gigger in there. It was 96 bucks. I'll get a Tara when they make it

[Socomer 1979]

&
5 GB psp !

[condorstrike]

god you're so frustrated with yourself.

everyone knows that's a rip-off, but you know what also is a crappy business model/ rip-off?
Sony not lowering their price on the PS3. and guess what? an article about that was released 1 or 2 says ago and PS3 fan-boys were actually supporting Sony's decision to keep the price up, and blamed it on the economy.

God I love the double standard, but since N4G is full of you-s then I really don't care about the disagrees...Live-on Player.

[-MD-]

1TB PS3 FTW!

[Stryfeno2]

1PB (Petabyte) PS3 FTW!!!

[-MD-]

I'm upgrading to a 2PB in a few months. These game installs are killer.

[Stryfeno2]

Why get 2PB when its going to be obsolete next year and all the AAA install and HOME goodness...1ZB (Zettabyte) PS3 FTW!!!

Only thing is fitting it in my PS3..
http://lmiall.files.wordpre...

[Boty]

beat me to it.

[Model]

speaking to yourself murderbot ?

[DailyAddict]

i think the disagrees I got in my above post proves that no one even reads messages anymore. Did you not see that I said that 360's hard drive's are overpriced and that I said the same thing that ApolyPS3 said about the games on demand thing (the disk authenticating the game)?

God, this site is so retarded.

and @condor, you're an idiot. How is it a double standard when this article is ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE 360. Sorry I'm not jumping all over the place like a 9 year old looking for his tiny balls in a haystack and comparing the 360 to the PS3 when this article has nothing to do with that.

But, if it makes you feel better, I do think the PS3 needs a price drop and dropping the price will increase PS3 sales. However, I also agree that for what's included in the PS3 the price is reasonable. Adding Wi-Fi alone to the 360 arcade jumps the price to $299 ($100 less than a PS3) and Blu-Ray after that (even a standalone "good" Blu-Ray player is $200+ or if you want to get technical, a Blu-Ray player with all the features the PS3 has is $50+). So, from a business standpoint, you're just paying for what you get.

[Blu Ray3]

outnumbered by hordes of PS3 only extremist idiots.

I own a PS3(hell I own every console......it's good to be me)but this site is controlled,overrun,and moderated by PS3 socialist IMO!
That's why I rarely comment......and on top of it,I get accused of being a "bot",
by multi accounted/bubbled idiots like Canadian420 Guy,and
PMed by Nasim and the the rest of the non gaming useless PS3 scum crawling around here.

Yes,the 360 is my favorite console this gen......but in no way does it mean it's the best!
Different strokes different folks,right...not on N4G.

I wish idiots like Canadiandork420(look at his avatar lollol) and
PMing Nasim account #143 would realize that they should love all consoles,then get lives,and a grip.

[-MD-]

Truth ^^

[Jack Klugman]

haha but when you are in last place, been the fools of the generation you have to try extra hard. they really are the fools of this generation when you look at any serious gaming site without the words play or station in it they are really pointed out as the freaks of gaming.

[themyk]

Look at MURDERDOLLS trying to pretend he's not exactly what blu Ray was talking about.

Hey MD I see u trolling in every ps3 article oN this site. U are the xbox version of the ps3 trolls he was talking about.

So u can stop with the " truth" bit. Because we all know the " truth " about u.

[themyk]

Hey Jack if the ps3 took over the second place spot next year, would u get a ps3 and start calling the 360 a POS just cause it was in third place? Probably not.

And I mean listen to u. Ur bragging about owning a console in second place. I mean really? Even with a year to a year and a half headstart it couldn't hold first place. So what ur bragging that both ninty AND Sony haven't taken u over. Pathetic.

Here's a suggestion try to stop being so insecure and start trying to be a gamer. Have a look at what the ps3 has to offer maybe ull like it. I mean we all just want to play games right? Who cares what place their in. It doesn't make the system any worse or any better.

[cosmos]

everyone get a hold of themselves and settle down. A lot of what is being said here is a straight up LIE. the bottom line is that the 120gb pricetag is a rip off. It doesnt matter how big installs on the ps3 are vs 360, it doesn't matter that you can play info off an external drive with the ps3 without copying it to the hdd. Point in FACT you can get 500gb hdd's for about $100 online; so 120-150 for 120gb is a RIP OFF!!! MS is using a marketing tactic to get consumers to pay more for less PERIOD!!! ONLY MS products work for the 360 so you are forced into buy if you want more space. Obviously this tactic works because so many idiots are buying them. If you hate Sony that much and don't want to be taken advantage of by these underhanded tactic then do what I did and buy the ELITE and you can absorb the cost of the 120gb hdd. Before you start talking and impugning you own integrity compare prices first. THE POINT IN THIS CASE IS THE COST AND THE 120GB HDD FOR THE 360 IS A RIP OFF!!! STOP ACTING DUMB!!!

[bankai]

Seagate HDDs are very good quality i have actually had 2 of mine since before the 360 launch, even bought 2 more about two years ago. i NEVER had any problems out of any of them.

im about to buy a 1.5TB HDD for only $149.99

WAIT, WHAT?! 1.5TB $149.99

thats right, check your local walmart guys. i actually just saw this yesterday.

besides 120GB at $149.99 or even $99.99 now-days, no matter how you try to justify it, is a complete rip off. i dont care if microsoft is doing it, sony, the wii (if they decide to implement one) whoever does this BS is wrong.
that fact that microsoft goes on doing this is nothing more than crooked business and a bunch of corporate @ssholes screwing money out of people just because they can.

[cyclindk]

They DON'T NEED IT!!! Every 360 owner I've come across is apparently quite happy with popping in a dvd for whatever they need... 360 owners can just start storing stuff on dvds and inserting those whenever they want to play the other parts of their games, or movies, music, porn, or whatever; they're fine with it, so you should be too? (yes, question mark)

I on the other hand am mentally handicapped and saw no other alternative than to buy a 500 gig drive for the same price as what this guy payed for his, what was it, 120 gig? And of course there's the matter of Blus holding so much data... I'm just a space whore I guess (a whore that needs space, not a whore from space, silly).

[vx]

the solution to RROD was so simple after all

[enjoi187]

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from...

umm yeah i got my 120 for alot less than 150$ at a retail...morons...it is called internet shopping where sh!t gets a whole lot cheaper....stop crying the same old story over and over...

and if you have to install all you games to you 360 you a moron.

[Enigma_2099]

Finish a game... then delete the files... what's so hard about this?

[bankai]

the fact that i should have the option to keep all my end game saves. i can fit a bunch of games on a PS2 mem card on ps2, or a game cube mem card. hell i could even fit 15 saves to a ps1 mem card.

soooo the question is what makes this gen so special that space as become an issue thats so hard to fix. when you can now get 1.5TB HDDs for $149.99 (well its not an issue with PS3 because i can just stick a laptop HDD in there), but why does a 120GB on 360 have to cost the same as 1.5TB its not like Microsoft HDD is any better than a seagate.

bottom line, you should people should have a choice to keep installs, end-game saves, or delete them. and adding a few gigs on a 360 shouldn't be as expensive as it is now, considering the cost of memory now.

[DevastationEve]

Um, Xbox 360 lets you keep your saves too. Hell, if all you need storage for is game saves you could get by with a 512MB Memory Unit.

I do both, I keep all of my profile and save data on the MU and then all the game data and maps and DLC on the HDD. That way I can take my profile with me when I got friends waiting to beat the sh*t outta me in SC4 with their custom characters :)

[bankai]

that comment really shows more rip off taking place by microsoft, a 512MB memory card for 50 dollars. hell i can get a 8GB memory stick pro duo for less than that on wal-mart.com right now ($43.54 to be exact) that is basically 16 times the space for less. it can be used in PSPs, PS3s, PCs, and a wide array of other electronic devices. thats the point of the article and posts is that everyone is being ripped a new one by microsoft, especially in terms of adding memory and there is nothing special about the products that justify the ridiculous prices.

im not stating any of this as a console fanboy of any kind, im simply stating facts.

[Enigma_2099]

... you DO have that choice... just don't come up here b!tching when you run out of space.

[bankai]

as i said, i was just pointing out facts of ridiculous prices.
i only have a 20GB hard drive on my 360 and fortunately that all i really need since i only bought it for the JRPGs. another fact is that RPGs are the only genre really worth keeping end game saves, aside from a few other games.

but aside from all that; there is NO EXCUSE for microsoft charging what they charge for memory. no excuse what-so-ever.
even if it is my choice to keep end-game saves. you cant honestly justify the reason for MS price on a 120GB HDD. anyone who tries to is just stupid, when you can get 1.5TB at the same price.

[larrym]

Although I love my Xbox 360, they really need to drop the prices on the hard drives. $150 bucks for 120 gbs is just ridiculous. I bought a 500 gb hard drive for my computer for $89 bucks. Next gen consoles should be shipping with no less than 1 terabyte hard drives.

[stonecold3]

over take xbot 360 towards this christmas if sony gets the 13million sold xbot might just reach 31 million and give it up for there shoddy hardware ps3 must be at 25 million to date as july 09

[Troll_Police]

To all of the people who want MS to release a bigger HDD, if they charge $150 for only 120gigs($1.25 per gig)just imagine what they would charge for a 320gb HDD. At their price of $1.25 per gig, a 320gb HDD would be $400!!!!!

[Revvin]

I shudder to think what a 250GB or 320GB 360 drive would cost, I'll hold on to my 120GB drive in my Elite for now. The HDD pricing is ridiculous, for the price of the 120GB 360 drive I was able to buy a 500GB for my PS3.

[Blu Ray3]

360 is my choice this gen so far(opinions are like arse holes....they all stink......right?)
But PS3 is a butt hair behind it,and that's a small butt hair!
Sony has stepped up their game .......so buy a PS3 and support Sony too,
because you win....no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!
See how that works fanboys?
GEEEEZ

[caffman]

Ebay is such a wonderful thing

[Cherchez La Ghost]

MS should work something out that ppl can use external HD with some code for game saves. As time passes by, this could help MS in the long run.

[FadeToBlack]

Im restricted from using their video marketplace so HD space is not an issue for me.

[guerojose]

I love all the comments like "Play one game at a time, then load the next one, stupid!"

Exactly. Just like you should only listen to ONE song at a time on your iPod, then load the next one. I mean, it's not like you can listen to more than ONE song at a time - sheesh!

Oops, gotta go, I have to pop out to the store and buy another piece of bread.

[FadeToBlack]

You still have to switch the disc when you are playing games that are installed on the HD. And from what i have tried there are no performance bennifits gained from installing the game to the HD. Therefor a useless feature for me if i still have to get up and switch discs.

[Poopface the 2nd]

This guy says that he likes to install games because the 360 is noisy. My older 360 was more noisy than the current, but I never had a problem with noise as I like my games with some volume and my 360 is far away.

I think the HD are way over priced and microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot.

At the same time Add all the guy installs he mentions and its about 62 gigs. I douby that he has another 50 gigs of DLC and saves. If he really does couldnt he delete some of these. I understand the sound issue, but Ive never installed any games on my 360.

the point is that you can still play the games without being installed. Does he really need all those games installed. I doubt he will continue playing all them so much.
So maybe he will be forced to uninsatll a game, he can still play it, and wont have to install it again if he has the sudden urge to play it.

I do think microsoft need to release cheaper and bigger HDs, but I think this guy is making a mountain out of a mole hill. The noise excuse is a lame one, unless he really does have the puniest speakers in the world.

[jeseth]

Is that they conveniently fail to mention that if you want to maximize the performance of a game you very often have to install it to the HDD. I noticed this when I borrowed my friend's 20gb 360 and I bought Fable 2 just to play on his 360. The game kept freezing on me and then I asked him about it and he said to install it to the HDD.

I laughed.

This is one of the thing many 360 fanboys rant and taunt about when trying to bash the PS3. Installing game data onto PS3's HDD. Funny how it happens on the 360 too. Quite the double standard.

I got a launch 60gb w/ a 250gb western digital HDD installed. Have had it in there for two years now and have about 30 game datas on there, 12 PSN games, 14 movies, 35 episodes of Family guy, 100's of songs, 1000's of pictures, and I still have about 105gb left.

PS3. You pay more in the beginning, but after its all said and done, it saves you money over time. That's the main reason I bought one besides MGS, GOW, and GT. Because it gives you more bang for your buck than any console.