Halo 3 Will Put Xbox 360 Further Ahead of PS3

By Rob Enderle of Digital Trends:

"Halo was the game that made the original Xbox; it was the one thing the PlayStation 3 still lacks - the game that defines the playing experience. While there are a lot of good games out for the Xbox 360, including Halo 2, it will be Halo 3 that will possibly go the farthest to define the power of that platform. Halo 3 is one of two games enabling Microsoft to push the limits..."

[Scythesean]

The funny thing is that I don't want to play against someone in a FPS if they have a PC and I have a console. FPS where made for the Keyboard and mouse which is why 360 owners will die badly against PC fighters.

The PS3 has 40 player online in a HD game and I don't see any 360 game doing that yet? Unless I missed a game somewhere? This guy is a joke, and if the only thing that the 360 can bring is the killing of it's owners in a PC vs 360 game then more power to them. I bought my PS3 to play PS3 games and users. I have my PC to play against other PC's, but killing 360 fanboys will be fun.

[T-Virus]

Resistance is pathetic in comparison.
Halo 3 isn't cross-platform, so no need to worry about PC users either.

[fenderputty]

I'm a huge Halo fan. I've always been one. It's the one reason I miss my old 360. That being said, Resistance is a fine game and equally as good. Both games are fun, leave it at that.

[Xi]

huxley, 100 on 100 eat your words.

[Scythesean]

T-Virus why not compare? Resistance isn't anything but a great fun game. It is better then Halo in many ways. The fact you don't like it isn't a reason to say it sucks. Halo 3 is going to be a sweet game but it's not going to be anything more then halo 2 with pretty graphics. Wow a force field Yippy Doo! Look a new atv to drive, a cannon to shoot you lazy ass across the map. Just as many 360 fans said about resistance, Halo is another FPS with aliens and guns NOTHING NEW!

[TheSadTruth]

I own both Halo 2 and R:FOM.. both are good games

I would say Halo 2 is better in EVERY single aspect except the plot and special features (skins, secrets, etc)

[ASSKICKING4U]

It doesn't matter how many players you play online, could be 40,32, 16 or it could be 8 , take a look at Gears of War there are only 2 teams of 4 players on each team and you can stay playing online for hours, Halo 2 was only 16 players total and there are still people playing that game. What matters the most is how much FUN you have, and what we all look for is how original we are from competition, yes you might have a point that FPS are made for PCs in a way cause they have a mouse and key board BUT Im looking foward to put my skills against them to see who is better, Im looking forward for a new challenge for something different and for the most, for FUN, lean mean pure FUN son..!!

[Azza]

resisistance is an wicked game really enjoyed it, but please why has anyone gotta say that halo is beta than resistance or vica versa?

Both are veery enjoyable gamez from my POV, isnt that the only thing that matters?

Personally I think all this "my platform exclusive is better than yours" crap is exactly that - the only people that think like that are fan boys (or whatever you call them) myself I love both resistance, halo and looking forward to each new iteration of both games.

Just my POV

Azza

P.s if someone hits disagree can they plz tell me why - I hada few peeps who havnt agreed before and Id just like to know why?

Is that too much to ask ;p

Edit: how much does it suck that Tottenham went outa the UEFA cup tonite so gutted.. I know I'm a spurs fan but if your English you gotta feel my pain!!!

[Mattey]

first of all BLACK HAWK DOWN FOR XBOX already had 50 players per a game online so prettey much your an idiot, how about we dont see any ps3s doing THAT yet. second of all your an idiot and say something usefull next time

[Legionaire2005]

Perfect Dark Zero had 32 players and they were going to patch it up to 50 players in a update. Maybe Perfect Dark 2 will have 50 players.

[Bigmac573]

360 fanboys oughtta pray Bungie can pull off a miracle. The game looks like dogsh1t, alpha or not.

[DrWan]

I haven't been following halo3 at all, but like i saw the video for multiplayer last night, i was like wtf? this is highly regarded halo3?? no way, so i keep on digging through the videos because i acutally thought it was Halo2??!!

Halo 3 really have alot of areas to work on, especially the animations imo. the way players move on un-even surfaces seem very last gen...not sure if u guys agree with me.

hal02 and hal03 comparison also wans't very impressive to me other than the improve texture..

[InMyOpinion]

Do you guys seriously think it will look anything like in that Vidoq? That's the version they're using for the test part.

[ASSKICKING4U]

Hey bigmac, keep playing you only fun game you have RFOM and comment about another game when it actually comes out.

[ThaTeflonDon]

You must have not seen it in HD on the 360 marketplace yet ...cause I would say it looks quite good as it is now....not spectacular but good.

But I really hope they do something about those gun sound effects ....cause after playing GRAW then RB6: VEGAS for the past couple of months ....Halo 2 sound effects sound like sh!t

[Ps3007]

Well this looks horrible. I mean bad.

I thought this would look better than Gears of War? Or atleast better than RFOM? Seriously it looks horrible

Glad they have more time to work on it.

[marionz]

halo 3 isnt looking too special, and an xbox fan just for the record
i enjoyed halo and halo 2 but i felt the lack of emotion from the character left me feeling detached from the game, halo is good buy what makes it SO great?
the music in halo 3 blows me away, and yes i will still buy it, i dont know if its because i want to buy it or if its just because thats what xbox players MUST buy
and as for resistance...yep i loved it, its better then halo 2, tho the graphics aint much better, but i felt conected to the characters and the game, it plays just like halo so if you like halo gameplay how can you not love resistance?
at first when i put in resistance i thought CR@P the graphics are nasty im not playing that game! but it grows on you, put the graphics aside and its a blast

[Hayabusa 117]

All games in alpha code look like dogsh!t you retard. It seems you've still not recovered from having your head sniped off by Gears of war.

Edit: @ Marion: Ha! Resistance's crappy graphics grows on you...that's exactly how I felt about Call of Duty 2.(which I think is a good game by the way.)

[jwatt]

Halo is going to be good, I can't wait to play the beta may 16 but I think sony is going to have a good line up of games around the time Halo 3 releases.

[gooner]

"Halo was the game that made the original Xbox"
OUCH

sony splashing out $40 mil on killzone to counter this game i think halo will sell more but it will be interesting to see which ones better

"Halo 3 is one of two games enabling Microsoft to push the limits..."
OUCH

[JIN KAZAMA]

I'll tell you why. because that was the first decent game they had on the xbox. Soon as they got it, it was the ebst thing ever. That game isnt all that, i dont know why 360 fans love that game so much, its just a freakin FPS. I had Halo 1 and Halo 2, and I played it about 3 hours, and never played it again. Now, if you wanna talk about a sweet game on teh xbox, its OUTLAW GOLF, I LOVED THAT GAME, that was a sweet ASSSS game. But they messed it up on Outlaw Golf 2 though.

By the way, RFOM KICKS the CRAP outta Halo 1 and 2. So dont try to act like Halo is better than RFOM.

[THAMMER1]

TRUE.

You can tell beacuse of how the trolls are acting.^^^

[razer]

Should of just been in the 360 section and would of cut down on the worthless fanboy chatter. RFOM is a good game, but let me know when it even reaches half of the sales the Halo series has and then we can compare.

[dantesparda]

With that logic, then you could say that Mario is a far better game than Halo, cuz its sold a hell of alot more than Halo has. So please dont use that dumb logic, of sales indicates how good something is, cuz if thats the case, then at the rate the Wii is selling, it is a far better system than the 360 then. The PS2 sold WAY more consoles than the Xbox, does that make it a better system? Sure the PS2 may have had better games (because it had so many of them) but the Xbox was still technically better, yet the sales numbers didnt reflect that. I have never believed that "sales" means good, it only just shows "popularity" to me. Also to The Hammer over there, and you aint a "troll"? all you do is start sh!t, you flip-flopping fvck!

[razer]

I'm talking about 2 games here Halo vs RFOM. In some peoples minds maybe Mario is a better game and the sales numbers back that up. The only person making dumb logic here is you by comparing a system that is priced completely different and offering a totally different experience(360 vs Wii). We are talking about 2 FPS's here, I will say RFOM looks better than Halo and Halo 2 but we haven't seen it on next-gen consoles yet.

[dantesparda]

You phony fvck, you're so full of sh!t. Your point was that Halo is a far better game because it had over twice the "sales", and so are not even comparable according to you, to you, sales prove superiority. And then i go on to point out that if you wanna use that "dumb logic", yes, cuz it is "dumb"! Then Mario would be considered better than Halo then. If you cant undersatnd that, then you are even dumber than you're logic indicates.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Like they say Ms has Halo and thats it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Here maybe this can help http://www.kleenex.com/Coun... or LOL maybe Killzone 2 will kill Halo like the last Killzone did LOLOLOL

[ASSKICKING4U]

Oh so you think Xbox has halo and thats it?? boy you are very wrong, and even so, let me think what Sony has to offer something of its own Hmmmmmm.....GTA IV its nope not exclusive, well that was the only game I would say it was a killer exclusive for sony but not any more, well let me tell you a few exclusive games that KickAss and you can't have on you expensive PS3,

Gears of War
All the Halo series
Fable 2
Mass Effect
Too Human
BioShock
Shadowrun

The list goes on son, you should run for an XBOX 360 right now if you wanna have some real fun. or you can watch a Blue ray movie.

[Lord Anubis]

lol

[sabbath420]

XBOX has many more tricks son. Live for 1. None of you sony fans have played halo on xbox live have you. That is where Halo and xbox shine after the thrill of single player is gone my japanese loving friend. Heck I never even got to level 3 on halo 2 because I could not get away from live play.I could go on and on with many other tricks but we all already know them. Even you folks in denial.

[Keyser]

I'm guess you could call me a Sony fan but you could also call me a 360 fan (not MS). I played Halo 2 on live last night. I play very often with most of my college friends since we moved away from each other. It is a very good game. It's the reason I got my 360 but there are MANY problems with it

Problems:
1. CHEATERS!!! You can barely get a Team Slayer match on the weekends without getting modded. It was worse when the game was more popular! You can report them but you would see probably 20 in a 5 hour session easy! I put down the game for awhile because of this.

2. Cheaters!!! You have cats slowing down your connection speed so that they have the advantage. The lag gets so bad its almost not worth playing. Cat's BR's are like rapid action sniper rifles!

3. Lag in general. The lag is so apparent it's almost like when we used to play Halo 1 on Xboxconnect or Gamespy. It's so obvious and seriously takes away from the enjoyment of the game.

There are other things but those are the 3 majors. Halo is a great game. Don't get me wrong (or I wouldn't STILL) be playing it but there's a lot of room for improvement.

On topic with this article. Really, who is this guy. What does he do? Has he played a PS3? Does he know how many people bought a PS2 even though Halo and Halo 2 were out on Xbox 1? Halo, to me, was far and away the FPS leader before the 360 and PS3 but now that Gears and Resistance are out the gap is not so huge. Halo 3 has to compete with the new Unreal title also.

I just don't believe that the success of the 360 is riding on Halo as Xbox 1 was. I also don't believe that Halo being successful this round spells any kind of doom for the PS3. Like I said, Halo 1 and Halo 2 were successful games, and the PS2 still blew them out the water in sales. This duel will not be decided by any ONE game.

Just my opinion...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

A "one trick pony" Thats kicking the crap out of the PS3.

[Violater]

@ Thammer

its on the PS3 section as well, lately I have noticed your comments are getting more and more asinine.
I will admit Halo is a legendary game, legendary in its reception by the Masses not in its Originality or ingenuity.
Undoubtedly it has taken the best elements of Prior FPS and put them together.

[weekapaugh]

dude, give Thammer a break. Its not easy living in Bill Gates ass.

[trane07]

Yes they are becoming more asinine. But hey hes not the only one out of the bunch.

[THAMMER1]

You know it is true. No matter what you say or how you try to insult me. You guys are the ones with the issues. Sony has tricked you like small ignorant children. I did not develop Halo but I do enjoy the game all the time. Halo 3 will put a few more nails in the PS3 coffin. True very true.

Now do you have any more insults for me come on I know you can do better than that. You did not even move me at all. Try harder.

[techie]

Uh. You moan about people saying Microsoft don't love you and then you ask in your little forum post that hating should be stopped on both sides, and then you say that. I'm lost.

[GaMr-]

3.15 million in less than a half year

Just went world wide last month....

All Halo is going to do is prove to people that Gears is not the best 360 can do.... or... is it???

All I know is at this point Gears looks much better. Lets wait and see.

[gooner]

your rite sony has tricked us but isent that our probs
sony looses money on every console sold meaning hey have to bring out some good titles and the original xbox's fate is out the window for ps3.

even if ps3 gets dropped\no good games

i still have a computer and a blu ray player
if 360 gos the same way as the original xbox what are you left with?????

" Now do you have any more insults for me come on I know you can do better than that. You did not even move me at all. Try harder."
your mom tits sag like a pair of wet socks

[trane07]

Sony hasn't tricked anyone. You coming here saying a game will put a nail in the ps3's coffin like it will be the end of the ps3 is completely fanboyish. Unlike you and your xbot boys you'll never find me in the ps3 news area trolling around and about with bull. Yeah im sure the game will appeal to the lot but saying it will completely kill competition is dumb and stupid. If that was the case then I could go to the xbox360 forums and say some crap like "MGS4 is staying exclusive and is going to kill the 360's competition" but im not that type of person. People like you are the reason that true gaming has gone out the window and its completely ridiculous. Its not like MS is paying you. YOU guys are the ones with the issues. Take microsoft's d*ck out your ear.

[THAMMER1]

I could care less if the PS3 sales ever catch up to the 360. You have to admit that the spike in sales that this game release will create will make the hill a little harder for the PS3 to clime.

Deepbrown you know what it is HOMIE. You do not want me on your @ss again

[techie]

Can't argue with that. The ps3 is f*ked.

Give it a go Tham. I knew you'd single me out dude, that's what you#re like. You won't read what someone says you'll just try and punch em in the gut for no reason. Read what I said...I have no hate, but you seem to be full of it.

[kewlkat007]

you have the best bait...

Halo 3 will be aight, just wait and see. This article will soon turn into:

-Who the funk is this Guy, Questions.
-Other FPS games/comparisons
-MS the company
-Sony and blu-ray

well you get the picture...INTRUDER..INTRUDER-( SONY) the Mother Queen is being attacked, more drones on the way.

[techie]

Hm...i wonder what the disagreer disagrees with and the agreeer agrees with...hmmm. Depends how you read what I say.

Halo3 will sell like nuts to a rich squirrel...it will sell 360's as well.

ps. I have heard that the Resistance multiplayer is amazing. 40 players, no lag. Now that's an achievement...so this guy has no idea.

[Hayabusa 117]

You've HEARD Resistance is amazing? I've heard otherwise...

One says Resistance is absolute crap and is worse than Call of Duty 2 (and he hates Call of Duty 2).

Another says it's like Doom meets Call of Duty 2 without the textures...and he OWNS a PS3.

[trane07]

Halo 3 will no doubt be a great seller due to the rabid hype, but to say that sony is f'ed because of it is irrelevant. If anything, MS is f'ed if they don't try and throw out cash to kojima and square enix to get 2 best selling titles. Which has failed on MGS4's part so far with it staying exclusive. I don't see why crap like this is in the ps3 forum in the first place. How is it considered news for us ps3 fans? To hear some crap that "Ms has a game that will put it ahead!!" and?!

[gooner]

i think he was being sarcarstic

[The BS Police]

It's a well known fact that Halo is the fastest selling game of all time, let alone it broke all records for the biggest opening day in media history.

The only game that even stands a chance (a very good one at that) against Halo 3 is Grand Theft Auto 4.

And all of those who say that Resistence or Killzone are better games, I'm sorry but the "Halo effect" says otherwise.

All "Halo killers" kill themselves, and thats a fact.

[Cysquatch]

Halo will be a good game but will no way stand up to what PS3 will offer. Bottomline, MS developed this game for a the lowest common denominator...the CORE system. I don't care what you say, you only can go so far with DVD9. Halo 3 will sell systems but don't expect the envelope to be pushed much further than that.

Quake Wars and Killzone will destroy this tired shooter.

[razer]

If you think DVD9 is going to actually effect what constitutes a good game then you are up to your ears in Sony BS.

[The BS Police]

I think this video proves all Halo haters wrong.

Update: The video actually works now.

[frostbite06]

Just like killzone killed Halo......oh wait nm

[decapitator]

so you can't really expect it to look that different.

[weekapaugh]

So another 360 FPS that you can finish in one day...great.

DVD9 = last gen

[Adriokor]

Good marketing.

[decapitator]

You guys are missing the point, halo 3 will move some 360's even if it looks like a game for the wii(which it done), the fanbase is enormous.

Alshough it really wont put them that far ahead of sony, E3 is still a long way and i can almost guarantee they are both going to bring their gunz out then. 1

[collinwshaw]

This guy has no clue what he is talking about. All of the reveiws, and previews of Shadowrun, have people saying that this game isn't that great. And I don't know about you guys, but if we look at halo compared to whats out there, it really doesn't measure up to all of the hype. I don't get the whole halo thing, it ain't that great

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Halo = great... live with it.

[BIadestarX]

I am not a halo fan. I never play Halo 1, never own an original xbox and therefore never really played Halo 2. I purchased Halo 2 not long ago and I couldn't get used to it... Specially because I would get my @$$ kicked while playing online. I am too late to join.

I will buy Halo 3 primarity because is most hated game by Sony fan girls. This game makes Sony fanboy cry with desperation and take hunger strikes. Why is so overated, you ask? Well, why are you Sony fanboys keep talking this game? Why are all Halo post in this site full of Sony fanboys comments? If this games sucks so bad and is so overraded why it pissed sony fanboys so much and xbox owners keep playing it for years even after the xbox is no longer in production?
Heck, I will buy 3 copies of this game just to piss Sony fanboys off. It's funny as hell.

I mean, seriously look at some of these comments:

"Halo 3 looks like crap"
"Like they say Ms has Halo and thats it."
"By the way, RFOM KICKS the CRAP outta Halo 1 and 2. So dont try to act like Halo is better than RFOM."
"The game looks like dogsh1t, alpha or not."

ahhhh ahahahaha!
Ready? Ready!? ready!?

Halo 3 will be a great game!!!!!
I wonder how many Sony fanboys got seizures read that.

[sumfood4u]

HALO 3 WILL BE ON EVERY XBOX FANBOYS NUTSACK. BUT IN ALL HONESTY HALO 1 WAS BETTER THAN 2 IN POLLS ONLINE. BUT DON'T COUNT PS3 OUT CAUSE XBOX ONLY ONE~HIT WONDER IS MAKING A COMEBACK. PS3 HAS 5 TIMES AS MANY HITS, AN Wii HAS 7 TIMES WHAT XBOX HAS WHEN IT COMES TO HITS. NUFF SAID!

[I theCRUSHER I]

Like what?

[Violater]

More like World War 3.

[FordGTGuy]

Get a life.

N4G has turned into a hive of retarded PS3 fanboys. This sucks I used to like this website.

[Violater]

if they had showed that KZ tech demo you maggots would have been all over it, picking it dry.

Yes yes cowardly take my bubbles, don't try and debate with facts.

Fact, look at every PS3 exclusive game that comes on this site and see how its picked apart, months before it is even released.

[techie]

Why because it used to be filled with retarded 360 fanboys? Fanboys that'll beat up on a fan of the opposite system just because they like doing it?

ps. Ford I did no such thing...i actuall went and defended the Halo3 footage so back off.

The BS Police - there is absolutely no difference. Those who commented on Halo are comparing it to the trailer of Halo...dare I say the CGI trailer of Halo?

[FordGTGuy]

You guys always say "If they would've done this you would have been all over it" Just because you would doesn't mean I would.

[The BS Police]

Waht you fail to understand is why we would attack Killzone 2.

The Killzone Trailer was CGI, Sony fans then attack Halo calling it worse than Killzone, a select few sony fans still think the trailer was not CGI.

Most of all the original was hyped up to be the Halo killer, and of course it wasn't, it was just average comapred to Halo.

So untill you stop attacking Halo, of course microsoft/xbox/halo fans will attack the game.

[decapitator]

http://gameplanets.blogspot...

come on fellas, lets be real ? i mean whats so different about these games ? alpha or no alpha look at it ?

[FordGTGuy]

Means THAT MOST OF THE TEXTURES IN THE GAME ARE PLACEHOLDERS MEANING THAT HALO 3 WILL LOOK WAY BETTER. FOR THE PRE-ALHPA BUILD OF A GAME TO LOOK AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN A FINAL BUILD LAST GEN GAME IS FING AMAZING.

Stop your dumb b#tching.

[TheExecutive]

Thats all we have to go by, right? IT does look pretty bad. But I am a big halo fan :) this game will be fun and no doubt sell systems> It, however, isnt as great as some make it out to be. I mean what is so great about it?

This topic reminds me of a ps3 topic... more people from the other console commenting on something they have no business commenting on. Then the rest defending it...

[MoonDust]

They are retarded, soon he will find out how stupid he is when they show the final version of the game. You must be dumb if you think the game with the biggest budget, most hype in MSFT lineup will look like it's predecessor. OK.

[xfrgtr]

I'm waiting for heavenly sword

[THC PRITCHARD]

Cheaters

Halo 3
5 million players
3 month later
50% loss

Why
Modders
Kids giving bad feedback cause u are crap or the best over jealousness

it will cause hell

Unlike on ps3 where u can block people and never see em again

and Halo 3 is going to be the only best game on 360

BAH

halo is getting old
bungie need a new project or game

Wait for ps3
i no people are sick of wait
but good things will come to them who wait

Home
mgs 4
etc

[razer]

Just so you know(if you have a 360) you can also block players and never play with them again. It's handy when you run into modders and cheaters or just aholes in general.

[Xi]

The only games that my non-gamer friend know of are. WoW, GTA, Halo, and FF. These are the gamers that determine the market, not the hardcore gamers and fanboys. Halo will sell consoles just like gta sells consoles. Just like halo:CE sold consoles. If you don't think that will happen you're going to be laughed at.

BTW, the e3 trailer is a more realistic expectation of what to expect from the final game.

[r1000]

What's this a new game is coming out... Man I'm excited... Wait wait wait... is this yet "ANOTHER" FPS... yea I'll pass....

One thing I have to give to the Halo series is... is that it has one of the best marketing "EVER".. No doubt about that...

I will agree with the article though... it will sell 360's

But

Metal Gears Solid will PS3's
Killzone whether its good or not will sell ps3's
Home will sell ps3's
Final Fantasy will sell ps3's
LittleBig Planet will sell ps3's
Gran Turismo will sell ps3's
Eight days will sell ps3's
God of war 3 will sell Ps3's

I'm sure I'm forgetting others but whatever....

Flame on...

[FordGTGuy]

No because this site used to have people that would make comments that actual make sense like.

"A Pre-Alpha doesn't portray the actual game".

[techie]

Come on. You've got to expect it. Everyone would jump on a pre-alpha Killzone. FACT. Whether you would or not, a fanboy is a fanboy.

Anyway don't take it personally, you know you're right and that it'll look bloody amazing. So don't fall for the bait. And don't insult every single fan of the ps3 as if they are some kind of different species.

"So let me get this straight so you think people would jump on a game you like if they showed an Pre-Alpha Build so that makes it right for you to jump on a game you don't like?"

This "you" business. I jumped in to defend Halo3 pre-alpha dude. So I don't know you'd say that. Someone actually said Halo3 was sh*t and I said "shut up you d*ck"...go and find it dude, I have no hate for anything so get off my back.

[fenderputty]

There's an equal amount of idiots on both sides of the fence. I have to sift through idiots in my heavenly sword threads too.

As a PS fan I think it's stupid to trash this series. People think it's getting old? Are you serious? How many FF's or MGS's are there? It's only numero 3.

Anyways ... the game is going to rock. I just with people would stop comparing it to other games. It's Halo ... it's on it's own level, like it or not.

[crazyman]

Ford- I feel your pain, I've visited this site every day since the days when it was still 3 different sites, but recently I don't even bother to sign in or comment, I just read the news, read the first few comments then give up. I miss the days when there were interlectual discussions and we'd debate.

xbox360news, I mourn you

[2tired2day2hate]

if halo 3 isnt going to be that great, why does sony KEEP trying (failing) to make a better fps? how many "halo killers" have we seen? how many of those games still have people playing it online?. halo 2 STILL has more people playing online now than ANY ps2/ps3 game. that says enough.

[VirtualGamer]

Halo 3 will not doubt be a system seller for MS. That I don't dispute. However some of his comments in the article are way off.

Rob Enderle - For a console MMOG, the huge advantage is that you can push the hardware to its limits. This is a problem with PCs where you have to assume the lowest common hardware base, which may be a modem and a Pentium 3 with old graphics.

Has this guy even played any recent MMO games? EverQuest 2 gives the ability to allow players to adjust their graphics based on the power of the PC they have. Only the highest end PC today can run the game with no lag with all graphic effects maxed.

Rob Enderle - With Halo 3 the game developers can rely on the fact that gamers are on broadband, have Xbox 360s and all have the same controllers.

Really every owner of a Xbox 360 who is online is on broadband are they? Last time I checked every PC owner also had the same controllers called a mouse and keyboard. Add to this alot of people prefer mouse and keyboard for FPS.

Rob Enderle - Sony is in trouble if these games take off. They don’t even do multi-player that well yet, MMOGs are well out of their reach and they have effectively blocked every attempt their PC unit has made to work with their game platform. This creates the very real possibility that Sony PC users will be more likely to choose an Xbox 360 over Playstation 3 if they want to experience cross-platform play.

Did he not just go off on how the 360 will be so amazing and do things so much better then any other console or PC can do right now but then says they are going to do crossplatform better? How can you if you have to design for the lowest common denominator which if you believe what he is saying is the PC in crossplatform. Basically he just contradicted himself.

Sony don't do multiplayer well yet? MMOGs are well out of their reach? Wow just wow I guess he never heard of one of the biggest MMOG' companies in the industry called Sony Online Entertainment? Last time I checked Rob, Sony has 4 MMOG's in developement and all 4 will be cross platform so how about writinging something that actualy has some substance to it rather then this dribble?

Here is what Sony has coming in MMOG's and crossplatform capability for the PS3 - PC. Oh and one other thing SOE is using Unreal Engine 3 for these games. You know the same engine Gears of War was created with so look for them to be visually stunning!

John Smedley - One of the things I like best about SOE’s overall development direction is that we’re creating a wide variety of new games. We have four diverse MMO titles in internal development, not counting the five MMOs we currently have live, or our partnership with Sigil for Vanguard.

Each of these new games is aimed at a very different market and all of them are in different genres. From our perspective, it’s time to shake things up a bit in the online gaming space. We’re aiming for very high production values that will bring us (and gamers) into completely new places. We’re bringing mercenaries, spies, super-heroes and a new whimsical world to life as I write this. We’re also concentrating on bringing each of these games to you on both the PC and the upcoming PlayStation 3.

With the exception of the DC Comics game we’re working on, each of these games is an original IP. Our teams in San Diego, Austin, Seattle and Taiwan are excited about working on game worlds that we’re developing ourselves. It’s often frustrating to work with third party IP. There’s a constant battle over what the right direction is for the game, and from our own recent experience, it’s not something we enjoy. It very often puts handcuffs on what we can and can’t do and, frankly speaking, it’s a lot harder to make great games when the IP holders don’t understand the online gaming market.

The exception to this rule has been our relationship with the team at DC Comics. I have to say they are indeed a pleasure to work with. Jim Lee’s involvement as the Executive Creative Director has been a hell of a lot of fun. I just saw the latest build, and the team has come up with a combat system that I think is hands down the best I’ve ever seen. It doesn’t remotely feel like today’s MMOs. It’s all about the action.

http://stationblog.wordpres...

[rbanke]

Am i the only one that noticed towards end of the article was basically him coming up with opinion after opinon on what MS COULD do? Great unbiased journalism in this industry ;) Personally I think Halflife is much better, but in the end most fps games are about the same and the genre is way over crowded. Also, I dont get why Nintendo keeps coming up in these conversations. It seems most Nintendo owners also own an Xbox 360 or Playstation 3, at 250 bucks I picked mine up without even thinking about the games available.

[JIN KAZAMA]

You are one of the biggest xbot zombies here kid. All MS has is Halo, and that game is extremely overrated. Real gamers dont care about that game that much, only die hard xbox fans, which fortunatley arent that many. I bet you are such a rabbid zombie, that you are going to buy the 180 dollar HDD for your premium, because you are brainwashed into thinking its a good deal. Seriously kid, dont come in here actin like you know whats good and not.
Anyways, Halo 3 overrated, but it will sell like crazy because of teh brainwashed xbox zombies out there.
HAHA, i can see it now, like the movie "Night of the living dead", all teh xbox zombies walking slowly towards the stores for Halo 3.

[The BS Police]

Your a fanboy yourself, it shows in all of your posts.

[razer]

Has obviously never tried a 360. Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Rainbow Six Vegas (soon to be enjoyed by the PS3 masses), Gears of War, Kameo just to name a few excellent AAA games on the 360 and there are more but it's late. There are some great games coming up as well, Mass Effect and Bioware just to name a couple. The 360 has a lot more than just Halo.. The PS3 has some great stuff coming up as well, it's just in a serious dry spell right now. I would never say all the PS3 has is Metal Gear Solid because I know better.

[Boink]

who would have thought this would have the sony trolls out in full force. way to lose those bubbles boys:) you prove why there should just be a zero bubble option as some of the comments here are so far below stupid there is not even a word for it yet.

how threatened sony fanbots feel by an article like this is just further proof of how arcurate the article is, and how good a game/series halo really is.

people can not like halo all they want, and that's just their opinion, I don't like forza or PGR or grand turizmo, but I would never say they are terrible games, they are phenominal games, they just aren't for me.

grow some maturity, or move on to another site, nobody wants you here.

[trane07]

Both sides do there fair share of crap all the time,but to sit there and say that sony fanbots are coming out in full force when you've got just as much xfags IN THE PS3 NEWS SECTION saying that it trumps over everything the ps3 has to offer is just as ignorant. Don't act all brand new. I don't see why news like this is in the ps3 area in the first place. Its going to do nothing but stir up flaming between the two. You calling the sony boys out when you've got the xbots doing the same junk is dumb. SO yeah. GREAT Way to lose a bubble. Nice avatar by the way. Brings new meaning as to what you may be.

[Boink]

i'm directing it at the sony fanbots cause they are the ones IN THIS THREAD. thanks for paying attention though.

I don't approve of xbox people doing it either(although they are not MY fanbots as you say, they speak of their own free will). if fanboys(of any console) have no useful comments to say, go make love to you precious console, and get of these boards.

If you think what I said deserves your vote for losing a bubble, then you are even more pathetic than your words make you out to be. I won't vote against your bubbles as they will quite obviously be gone quite quckly.

and my avatar bringing meaning to what I may be, you mean a halo fan? you're sharper than I thought.

[Gamer13]

It will sell more 360 even the true Sony Fanboys will buy a 360 just because of Halo 3.

IM OUT...///"""

[marionz]

quoting lame american idol presenters is hmmmm....sad

[ddcab]

And they said motorstorm didn't live up to the hype. Xbox 360 is going into a year and a half and Halo 3 looks like it could be ran on the original xbox. I know MS has just thrown money at this game and that's what it looks like. Same animations from the last gen with better textures, different maps, and different weapons. I fell into the hype last gen and went to the launch of 2 but never again. MS has good online and thats it. This game should look as good as Gears or better. Thank God for Sony!!!

[kingboy]

I`v tried shutting up but i think now the truth needs to be told.Halo 3 looks like CRAP ,Washed Out, & Pathetic in the eye.Looks like a ps2 game in action with a few polished areas.What`s this that i hear Alpha Alpha build my @ss

[freeza]

i dont understand what does halo have to do with the ps3

[Ravenator529]

As usual, the majority of the comments for this flamebait are quite amusing.

You would be an absolute fool to think that Halo 3 won't move 360's off the shelves. No, not mass 360 sellouts, but yes they will move systems due to this game.

And another thing, did we all forget that Gears of War was on a DVD 9? There still isn't a game out there that can be graphically compared to Gears on any system to date.

Sure there are games coming down the pipe that look impressive but so far GOW is the only one to prove anything. And the one thing they did prove is that you don't need Blu-Ray to put out the most impressive looking game to date.

Regardless of what you are seeing on the multiplayer videos, Halo 3 will indeed look impressive when its released. Maybe not GOW impressive but next-gen non the less when the retail version hits store shelves.

As for the whole "further ahead" comments, maybe or maybe not. Who knows? Everything is just speculative bullsh1t right now. Right now the 360 is ahead. Will that change? Again, who knows.

Go ahead and get angry, its what the comment was intended to do!

[FordGTGuy]

I myself would never judge a game until I was able to play atleast a close to final build. A Pre-Alpha is the first playable build of a game and is full of placeholders and things being added. If they were to show Killzone pre-alhpa no I wouldn't talk sh#t because I wouldn't be stupid enough to think it even shows the final build.

So let me get this straight so you think people would jump on a game you like if they showed an Pre-Alpha Build so that makes it right for you to jump on a game you don't like?

Grow some balls.

[EZCheez]

Even though I do not own a 360, I am glad that you guys that do have something to be happy about. I will not "hate" on Halo because I love it too, but I will not buy a 360 for it. I don't believe I could own a system that strives on FPS's (they are all the same to me, and no I did not like RFOM either). But what will happen when these guys begin to play Halo 3 and realize it is not as good as Gears of War. Please respond. I want to know if any 360 fans believe this is possible.

[kewlkat007]

that the Playstation having more hits, I mean after 10 years of domination there is a lot of older franchises/Ip's that continue to sell with Sony one, two, three.(Yes Sony is loosing a lot of them to multi).

I don't see why can't people just give credit to a fun game, instead of being confused as to what makes halo a great console FPS.(funk the PC games).

Stop the comparisons to other shooters on consoles, until I see the numbers/online records, then they don't even compare. Every console has got one game that did very well and sparked a lot of new gamers.

Gamers are disagreeing with the Article but posting dumb fanboyish type comments, that doesn't warrant attention.

[overrated]

Halo is a killer app, and will sell a shyteload of 360's. My main grype with the Halo franchise is that IMO it isnt anything special, UT and Doom 3 both kick Halo 1 and 2 into the ground. It is way overrated and is easily beaten by many other FPS. Also stop with RFOM vs Halo 3 comparison if someone likes the game they like it so if your picking on someone over the internet over a game they like then your one sad little coward. Also stop with calling people Fanboys you dont know the meaning of it. These people are not fanboys they are just sad.

[Sphinx]

But the fact is a lot of people do. I really enjoyed Halo 1 and 2, but not nearly as much as I enjoyed Oblivion or Crackdown or even Final Fantasy 6. Still, I'll get Halo 3 and enjoy it (probably), and so will millions of others.

[ddcab]

Read the article title buddy!!!

[GameJunkieJim]

Air it out fanboys. Air it out.

Gonna cwy in November?

I AM a Bungie Fanboy. I freely admit it.

Halo. Often imitated. Never duplicated.

[bilal]

anyone who doubts this is a fool.........Halo is a huge huge franchise like metal gear or gt was in the ps1 days....even if halo3 does not turn out to be the dream game everyone expects it would still a lot of systems (especially in america)....u have to realize that a casual person would buy a console for one game that every one is talking about instead of for a console that have many good games (ps3) but nothing that is as big as Halo

[shikwan]

This site is gone to sh... I'll just say what you Sony Fa6boys usually say:

Why are you posting in 360 topic-if your PS3 is soo great, go play it!

Don't you guys have some BetaRay movies you could be watching? What, Sesame Street Season IV isn't out yet?

Lame-azz H8Rs!

[VirtualGamer]

Halo 3 Will Put Xbox 360 Further Ahead of PS3
Jebissaveme - contributor
Published: 52 minutes ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360

[kewlkat007]

your kind of late..with the Siren

[Sphinx]

I thought Gears of War was all MS has? You Sony fanboys are funny. I think you also forgot Crackdown, R6:LV, GRAW2, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Forza 2, and so on. I guess that is all MS has, besides the lower price point for people who spend wisely, the superior online service, and the freedom of choice (instead of being forced to choose a HD movie format).

[r1000]

I'm sorry but I know each fanboy has their loyalty to their console of choice... and that will never change..

But the loyalty to "master chief" is just insane... He's like a family member to these guys...

Sure halo had insane online number and thats good... but thats because that's all original xboxers... Halo 3 is on surf board just riding the hype/media wave... But if you take a step back and really dissect the game there really is nothing special

It's an FPS with it's own main character fighting enemies with pretty cool weapons... there's atleast 15 other fps's that have "THE SAME EXACT THING"

Admit it....

Flame away :)

[i rule]

oh man the trolls are out in force right now.. get a life,get a clue and just get over it.. go do your crying somewhere else. your wet dreams of halo coming to the ps3 are never going to happen. Why dont you start yet another online petition, maybe bill gates will show mercy to you losers

[Optimus Prime]

haha.. people are still comparing killzone to halo, and thinking RFOM is better. HAHAHA, killzone was a major flop, and someone tell me when RFOM passes halo in sales.
halo 3 is going to be awsome.

[MoonDust]

All the PS fanboys hate this game. Wait until they show the final build come November. CRYYYYY.

[kewlkat007]

Whats new in class today..

-Nevertheless, I've learned that DVD9 is the death of great gaming this generation.(says who you ask).

-Also Pre-alpha builds are the crappier looking their finished counterparts.(good one)

-Killzone/R:fam somehow Whips Halo1(somehow one of them games broke records)

-Also Halo is all MS has, I guess 11mil+ gamers, well thats all they play I suppose. Gears of War I thought won that title a couple months ago.(sucks to be you EPIC, you almost had it)

I wonder whats next?

I hear loyalty to Master chief(hail Master chief), I wonder if its the same as loyalty to Grandpa Snake? hmm gamers are still confused about the masses that truly love a great game..good luck with that.

I pity the Fool..that can't enjoy games on all platforms.

[NextGen24Gamer]

You can like Gears of War and Halo at the same time buddy. My son plays Gears of War and Halo 2 equally. He loves both games. When ever the topic of Halo 3 comes up...him and his friends get excited. Gamers play and enjoy many games. I played through, enjoyed, and beat Both Halo's, Gears of war, Call of duty 2 and 3, all the Unreals, Quakes, Dooms, Graw 1 and 2, Rainbow Six, Half life 1 and 2, and so on.... Halo doesn't have to be the best FPS ever to be extremely fun and technically impressive this next gen.... The hype behind Halo 3 will be insane. It will not only sell to current 360 owners....it will sell consoles at a rapid rate.

Its weird to me that Sony fanboys have so much hate towards MS and Halo. It leads me to believe most of them are young children or developemently delayed adults. Its just games people. You don't win as a "Gamer" when you only get "ONE" video game system. You miss out on a whole generation of AAA titles. Its obvious I'm not happy with my ps3 as a gaming console. But, as a "Gamer" I purchased it because I enjoy video games and I don't want to miss out on an exclusive AAA game at some point in the ps3's life cycle. But, I could never see myself buying "ONE" console and bashing another console just because I don't have the money to enjoy it. I find it odd that sony fanboys try to tell 360 fans they aren't true gamers. But yet the game to console ratio for the ps3 is 1 point somthing and the 360's is a record breaking 5 point somthing. Don't "gamers" play and buy games? Or do "gamers" buy "ONE" game for "ONE" system and then bash "Gamers" who enjoy the opposing video game system?

Its a sad to see what is taking place with the console bashing and personal attacks on this site.

In my opinion, you can't call yourself a "True Gamer" unless you are capable of enjoying games on "all" platforms... You don't have to buy every system...but you are a true gamer if you would buy every console if it was economically possible for you. Who wouldn't love my video game set up? If you feel you wouldn't love my video game set up....Then you are "NOT" a true gamer. 4 computers upgraded and maxed out networked....6 360's and 6 of many titles for system link and online gaming....with 6 xbox live accounts to match, A ps3 with every game, the wii. I have HD Flat screens for every console. My Elite is paid off in full. I have a 20k surround sound set up in my living room.....And every weekend....My son, his friends, and my friends get together for Multiplayer Online Gaming all nighters. Call me a nerd, call me a geek, call me stupid.....But I call myself a "Gamer". I was born into this as my dad would purchase the arcade Units and had them in our game room when I was a kid. This is back in the late 70's and early 80's folks. I do have opinions on which system is better and for what. But, its only because its brought up. Otherwise, I just enjoy what I have. I don't live to bash "one" console. Thats is unbelievably silly to me.

The Halo franchise is Huge. Halo 3 will be gigantic.....Who can deny that? WIll it be the best game ever? No one knows....and people will always debate that. Its opinions. But it no doubt will sell extremely well, and if halo 1 and 2 are any indication....it will dominate award shows as did Gears of War last year.

[r1000]

"Its weird to me that Sony fanboys have so much hate towards MS and Halo"

Yea you guys are all saints... you guys embrace the opposing console and it's game with arms wide opens.

[Sphinx]

in the Never Never Ranch for your set-up.

[EZCheez]

I never really said it would be impossible to like two different games of the same genre. I merely posed the question to find out if fans of the Halo franchise would be dissappointed if it was not the "best game ever made." Different people fall into different niches in the gaming society, and I for one am used to playing single player games that tell a story. Original games like "Shadow of the Colossus" and "Okami" get me excited.
In my mind I compare it to buying NCAA Football 08 and Madden 08. Two outstanding games with enough depth to get lost in and great gameplay, but only contrasting to the sharpest gamers eye. There is nothing wrong with being a video game connoisseur, I just believe that they are the minority.

[freeza]

i will bet you that halo doesnt even move 1mill 360's

[IvIoss]

Look, i am new to this site but to the fanboys that hate halo. just try the game without bias. its a great game, especially the matchmaking on halo 2 is second to none. PLEASE everyone stop hating on eachother.

[VirtualGamer]

That said I am rather shocked that so many Sony fans are here dissing Halo 3 and the Halo franchise. This is a big game for Xbox fans as big as FF or MGS for Playstation. To suggest that this game is not going to look good and be a system seller is the same as them making the same claims about FF or MGS. Its BS to say and everyone knows it. I wish everyone would just stop with the hating on both sides. This site would be so much better for it.

My only issue with this article is that the author based alot of his arguement on totally untrue information. To suggest that Sony will not have system sellers of its own or that they are unable to do MMOG's or crossplatform games is a total outright lie. But hey lets not discuss the actual article lets just all go attack Halo 3.. I tell you this site is pretty sad at times and both sides are just as bad.

[MoonDust]

:)

[Xi]

that the system has no system seller, it just has no real mascot.
Nintendo has mario, zelda, metroid.
Xbox has masterchief.
the ps3 doesn't really have one. Kratos, R/C, J/D all are getting up there but none give the same impression as other system mascots.

the other stuff I agree with you, multiplayer games can go on any system (accept the wii).

[DrWan]

The only thing i am saying is that this alpha build the animation is crappy. For Ps2 fans who is waiting to upgrade to a ps3 (alot of them will when price come down or when they have a HDTV), the success or failure of this game will not matter. There are just so many games on the PlayStation platform that they want, it's a trade off issue. Such as the recent Rachet and Clank: Tools of Destruction.

So, i think this will affect Xbox 1 fans more, that are waiting to upgrade to the 360.

[Scythesean]

They already said it won't look as good as Gears of War, so that is a shot in the foot already. Sorry but Halo is the Mario of MS's X-box, soon the MC will be playing tennis and on a go-cart then it will be Master Chief Party 8.

Halo is so over rated it's not funny. Yes it sold so many because that is the only really good game the x-box had that people enjoyed playing. Now if you want a good comparison which system had the most game sales? PS2 or X-box? The PS2 because they had tons of different games that everyone loved. Unlike the box which had nothing but FPS and the best one being Halo. It's not hard to sell so many copies if it's the only game really worth playing.

[kewlkat007]

The PS2 sold well because it had a great gaming library, from the transition from PSone 2 PS2. A far much better Transition then Microsoft which was on it's first console trying to break into the console market. Unlike Panasonic 3DO, MS did not quit, hence why we have the 360.

All the sudden if the game does not look as good as GOW, its already shot in the foot? Thanks for putting Gear on top of the food chain but there is no games looking like Gears right now. Funny how people judge games based on looks, if that was the case every game that does not look like gears would stink.(really thats not the case)

[MoonDust]

Get a life.

[Nintenuendo]

It's getting a bit ridiculous. I mean come on, do you really think Microsoft if going to just cheapen the Halo name by throwing it into any random game they can? it's not like we're seeing the Master Chief in Super Smash Bros: Brawl, or anything.

I think you completely misinterpretated the statements from Bungie saying Halo 3 won't look as good as GOW. From a toe-toe like comparison, it won't obviously, with the smaller environments and less enemies on screen, Epic could afford to throw more polygons into their characters, and more concentrated effects into their environments. Now you have a game like Halo 3, which will feature massive environments, all drawn at the same time, with dozens (maybe hundreds) of enemies and friendlies, all fighting at the same time, with vehicles and explosions, and A.I. (not to mention realistically flocking pidgeon-things), and the possibility of it all running online (co-op), I honestly think that Halo 3 will be right up there with Gears, if not way ahead as a total package.

Also, I know the arguments been beaten to death, but it's an ALPHA build! The footage we saw could be a year old for all we know! Bungie was showing us the bare minimum they had to show us to get their point across, and it still looked better than Halo 2!

I'm not going to touch your points about Halo being the only good game XBOX had, because to be honest, it's idiotic. Same goes with you saying that Halo was just another FPS. It's obvious to me (and likely others), that you're just another Sony fan, trying to stir up conflict on these boards, it's obvious by the complete lack of any positive comments out of you.

So, come on, man. Chill out. Do your homework, cut out your blind loyalty, and your pointless need to cause trouble, and play some games.

[pustulio]

i said that the 360 is the best gaming console and the Wii sucks but the ps3 is a cool gaming console it has good games too not too cool like gears and halo 3 but the ps3 for me is cool but the only company that y don't like is the Wii because it fuc#1ng suck

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Mass Effect alone will put 360 father ahead of ps3.

[Xi]

you know, this just fuels the hype machine. if you don't like the game, you shouldn't comment on how lame and stupid you think it is. I don't like Kingdom Hearts, or god of war, and so I don't post on it. Yet for some reason you must bash Halo 3. why? because you don't like it. Don't like? don't play. Don't agree, give a good rational argument, not some bull on the alpha footage, or that this game does this better, or that halo sucks 'cuz' its on xbox. If you don't think halo3 will sell consoles, then explain your reasoning. Don't do hominid attacks, and insults because you feel threatened by a videogame. grow up.

[TheExecutive]

When will there be more information about halo 3? E3? Can't wait. Havent really kept up on the news about it. I saw a trailer...

[Dusk]

that post on this website when it comes to game development. I know it's been said already, over and over, but it's a frickin' ALPHA build. ALPHA builds are without nearly all of the final graphical effects. This is where the playability of the game is designed, the level layouts, the flow of the game, functionality, etc. etc. Many of the textures, audio samples, weapon effects, etc. are all place holders. Additionally, many of the graphical effects like bloom lighting, etc. etc. are not even implemented yet.

If you honestly think that MS/Bungie are not going to pour everything into the 360's flagship title, then you are a complete moron.

Jin - If your comment of only diehard Xbox fans like Halo and there aren't that many of them is correct, explain how Halo 2 sold over 9 million. Explain how Halo 2, up until Gears, was the most played online console game, by far, for years. Also, the only people that still even mention RFOM, are the Sony fanboys because there just isn't any other PS3 game to use as comparison. Sorry, but RFOM isn't even close to the level of Halo, Gears, FF, MGS, GTA, WoW, etc. These games create hype, sell consoles, and are played and talked about years after they are released. RFOM has already been forgotten by all but the very few.

Virtual Gamer - Yes, every 360 is on broadband, as it's a requirement for online play. It's been this way since the original Xbox. There are those that found a way around it, but the number is so incredibly small that it's probably not even half a percentage point. Also, I wouldn't bring up arguments comparing the Sony/PC relationship to the MS/PC relationship. The 360 has such a huge advantage over the PS3 in this category. I guess you forget that 90% of the world's PCs use Windows, also by MS. True, Sony makes PC hardware, but it's the software that MS creates that controls the cross-platform functionality. Also the way games are developed for the 360 is extremely similar to the way they are developed for the PC. The PS3 is the one that's quite different.

Pritchard - Halo 2 had modders, cheaters, kids, etc. yet it still dominated the console online gaming world for years until Gears came along. In fact, the more popular the game, the more the disreputables come out of the wordwork. It doesn't stop the game from being popular, though. You would witness first hand what I'm talking about if the PS ever has an online game as popular as Halo.

No matter what anyone says, Halo 3 is going to sell millions and millions. It's going to push millions of 360 consoles and it's going to played by many for a long while. Just accept it.

[VirtualGamer]

Dusk - Yes, every 360 is on broadband, as it's a requirement for online play. It's been this way since the original Xbox. There are those that found a way around it, but the number is so incredibly small that it's probably not even half a percentage point.

Ahh thats interesting I did not know that, thanks for the info.

Dusk - Also, I wouldn't bring up arguments comparing the Sony/PC relationship to the MS/PC relationship. The 360 has such a huge advantage over the PS3 in this category. I guess you forget that 90% of the world's PCs use Windows, also by MS. True, Sony makes PC hardware, but it's the software that MS creates that controls the cross-platform functionality.

So your going to imply that only MS can do crossplatform then? Your going to suggest that Sony has to go and ask MS to develop software so they can have PS3 and PC play the same MMOG? Sony already has tons of experience with running MMOG games on MS OS PC's. The only challenge facing Sony is how do they create the software to run on the PS3 to do the same thing as it does on the PC. You forget Sony is not just a hardware maker they also are very good at making games and own a ton of game development companies and employ some of the best in the business. Only EA has more then Sony.

Dusk - Also the way games are developed for the 360 is extremely similar to the way they are developed for the PC. The PS3 is the one that's quite different.

Very true but so what? Linux is able to be installed on PC's but can be configured to run on the PS3. We are not taling OS here we are talking games. Your arguement might be valid if games designed to run on the 360 or PC where impossible to run on the PS3 but they are not. It is only a matter of modifying the software to run on the PS3.

And as I proved Sony has 4 MMOG's that will be crossplatform with PC's so it kind of blow a big arguement in that Sony has nothing to challenge with in this area because its completely false as they most certainly do.

Last but not least it appears Halo 3 is not even a MMOG so it makes the guys arguement even more full of holes. It was a poorly written and reseached article full of inaccuaracies. The only part in all that he said that was true is that Halo 3 will sell Xbox 360's.

[INehalemEXI]

That guys article was full of BS halo isnt a mmog and is not the first mmog on 360 but whatever. Huxley will be the fps mmog on 360. Halo 3 is the reason i bought a 360. Shadowrun sounds fun but it woulda been better if it had been an action rpg like its daddy was imo. 360 has plenty of fps dont understand why they had to make shadowrun a fps too.

[NextGen24Gamer]

Many sony fanboys keep saying that the xbox brand only has Gears of War and the Halo franchises. That is soooooo wrong. If that was true....the original xbox wouldn't have had a record breaking games sold per console. And the 360 wouldn't have broken the xbox's record with 5.2 games sold per console. Halo hasn't even launched yet, but yet games are selling at a record rate.

Sony fanboys refuse to acknowledge that there are millions of xbox livers, and 360 owners who love next gen games other than Gears and Halo. Sure those are the two that stand out due to massive sales. But, other games sell incredibly well also. Meaning there is a fanbase of gamers other than Halo and Gears fans. I know gamers who are more excited about Mass Effect, Forza 2, Fable 2, GTA 4, Bio Shock, Sports titles, Huxely, Devil may cry, Half life 2, Blue Dragon, Lost odyssey,Shadow run, Jade Empire 2, Alan Wake, Assassins Creed, Unreal, and so on and so on. SO while Gears and Halo stand out due to awards won and total sales....they even stand out compared to games sold on the ps2 with a massive fanbase of over 100 million....

Who can call themselves a "gamer" yet not look at that list and say to themselves...."those are some great games coming to the 360". Much more than just Halo and Gears. Thats why xbox owners buy more games per console than any other video game system in history. They play games. Sony fanboys can't respect that? Why can't we all just get along? honestly?

[achira]

why do ppl talk about halo 3. ut 3 will be 10000 times better. ut was always better. and killzone 2 will kill halo3 in any aspect!

[Optimus Prime]

hahaha, you are still believeing in that piece of junk.. You are still believing that killzone is going to take down halo, thats what all the sony fans thought when the first killzone came out... we all know how that went... UT 3 will be on the 360, so you dont have a single FPS that will take down halo

[nix]

but i guess.. most of the people who likes Halo must have already bought 360 so i wonder whether there will be sudden rise in console sale.. there will be but not as much as hyped! imo.

don't get angry!

[DrWan]

The only thing i am saying is that this alpha build the animation is crappy; so fix it before releasing the final verison.

As for Ps2 fans who is waiting to upgrade to a ps3 (alot of them will when price come down or when they have a HDTV), the success or failure of this game will not matter to these folks. There are just so many games on the PlayStation platform that they want, it's a trade off issue. Such as the recent Rachet and Clank: Tools of Destruction or Heavenly Sword or the next god of war or GT whatever (or forza for xbox fans).

So, i think this game will affect Xbox 1 fans more, that are waiting to upgrade to the 360. I think a high numbers of people that will buy teh 360 for Halo 3 are goign to be original Xbox Owners who are waiting to upgrade, correct?

[Funky Town_TX]

Like crazy. Hype can sell games, but hype can't make ppl play games. You guys will see. If Halo3 is only 20% better than Halo2 then it will tie to about 60% of 360 owners. That would be maybe 7 million copies. If GEARS tied to 50% then Halo can do better. If Halo3 was a PS3 game half you guys would be talking about how great it is. The funny thing is that it is 1st party. MGS4 will be great also. sales don't show how good a game is only positive buzz. To compare R:FOM to Halo is like comparing True Crime to GTA. OUT OF IT'S LEAGUE.

HALO 3 FTW

[PureGamer]

Why are people getting worked up over a game its sad ha ha. Topgamer stop bashing on the PS fanboys as a whole, the xbox ones are much worse go look at any positive PS3 news, most of them are not gamers because they quote sales fgures, attach rate figures and so on which is truely sad. Also funny how most of the people bashing the PS3 dont fuking have one. Really its Halo its been overhyped and is overrated, it will sell millions. People need to stop using halo as an example as selling loads because GT and FF have sold much more than the halo franchise. When people say that Halo is all the xbox has, are stupid but at the same time are right because look at all the people on here trying to defend it, so you are infact proving there point. Funky town dont be so narrow minded Halo is really nothing special onestly RFOM is just like Halo. Halo has been hyped and hyped and hyped which then seems to make people think that it is the holy grail, sorry to break your hearts out there but its not. People saying that most fo the xbox fanbase is waiting for halo 3 yes thats right but the same can be said for the other consoles, what about if there are people waiting for killzone 2? what about if there are people waiting for Mario Galaxy? What about if there are people waiting for MGS 4? Onestly most of the people saying just wait are the people who bash the PS3 gamers because they are waiting for games to play, onestly most people on this site are hypocrites.

[MoonDust]

That all the people still playing H2 are waiting for H3 to come out before getting a 360. A month before H3 hits the floor the 360 sales will go through the roof. All the Halo 2 players will merge to the 360.

[snoop_dizzle]

This makes sense. I don't think some people realize this but even if halo 3 isn't as good as its supposed to be, it will sell like crazy and sell 360's as well. The first week its out, it will be chaos. Aside from GTA4, this is the most anticipated game out there. So it will sell 360's as for GTA4, it will sell both PS3's and 360.

Man its funny that you guys are so upsessed with brand loyatly. Get a life. If this went to the PS3, (btw the odds are sooo rare) you guys would be jumping for joy. I saw the same exact think for oblivion. I heard Sony fanboys saying the Game sucked(on another site, probably on here too), but when all a sudden there was news about it coming to the PS3, sony fanboys could help but be excited.

Man fan boys are a bunch of hypocrites. And it doesn't matter what side you're on. Look apparently the Halo franchise did something right. Is it completely original, NO. But really, big deal. How many times have there been Mario games, mega man games, sonic the hedgehog games you name it, and thats just the Japanese, American games are just as much to blame. The point is, unless its a blatant copy of something, don't complain. Hell resistance isn't eve that original, even if the game IS GOOD. And yes i want to play it, but lets call it what it is. Even though i like some of those game i mentioned from Japan, i play what i want to play, even if it isnt original.

And theres absolutely nothing wrong with that. Just remember games are for fun, if you really have to lower your selves far enough down and diss people because some one likes the PS3, 360 or, Wii, you need to get a life.

AS for me, i hope to have ALL THREE CONSOLES. And guess what, ill be having fun! what a concept!

[i rule]

all of the sony fan girls leave halo alone. go pop your zits and fantazie about FF MAN GIRLS!!!

[m000b1]

coming from a person with "I h8 Sony Trolls" as there username and coming from a person who was so imature to make that post hmmmm

[ag101]

this is the first time i'm commenting i disagree with both side of the fence ...
i know Halo 3 will sell and that in both and consoles but saying that at that will come out in November at least (not confirmed) will blow away Sony is wrong ..

so the authors is saying that Sony is going to just stand there and wait to be blown away a ..

i mean come on we haven't even seen wht Sony has in Stores and with the words of Lair (which we haven't even seen that much of) , Killzone(with a huge budget and the most secretive out there) coming out around September but hey tht's just my opinion

edit : another point would be all thos 100+ million Ps2 owners that eventually might want a Ps3 do they not count as well ? I mean 98%(not really sure of tht) of Xbox owners are going to buy Halo 3 but the Xbox fanbase is just about 1/10th of the PS2 fanbase and a lot of those are waiting for Like Ratchet and Clank , KillZONE , MGS4 and more ...

[snoop_dizzle]

PS2 owners all a sudden wanting wanting a PS3, or i mean getting. Sony is still releasing games for the PS2 like God Of WAr 2. Giving PS2 owners less incentive to get a PS3. Hey if your getting an awesome AAA title and other games, why upgrade now? Why not later. The PS2 is also hurting the PS3 in some ways as well, because the PS2 was such a success. Meaning Sony is being hurt by their own success, for now at least. If they want the Ps3 to do better, they gotta stop making games for the PS2.

[GaMr-]

Just when you thought it was safe to come outside....

LMFAO @ Biased idiot who calls themselves "top gamers". More like Top Fanboy.

"Stand out due to massive sales"....ahahahahaha

hmmmm yea.... So we have a large product line but 2 products stand out due to massive sales. Notice the word "Massive". Means that all people are buying cause thats all people really want. lol

[scarlett_rg]

Dude!... there's a reason why TopGamer has 8 bubbles, and why yours are going down faster than a hooker at a tycoon convention.

[ammojoe]

If someone supports the PS3 in here xbots like you take bubbles because you don't agree. Why don't you get up off TG's jock anyway.

[NextGen24Gamer]

While yes Halo 3 will sell 4 million out the gate with existing 360 owners at least....It will also sell to previous xbox owners (24 million of them) who haven't jumped in yet with the 360. There are many who haven't due to the price believe it or not. The hardcore fans buy the 360 while its priced regularly...but there are millions of people who don't buy systems until it gets down in price to 200 or less. Its the way the industry has always been. Thats why ps2's are still selling. Price is an important factor to "most" casual gamers. The same arguement goes ten fold in regards to the format war as well. Price of the standalone players will dictate sales to the "masses of consumers".

When my son plays Halo 2...Most of his friends on his friends list don't even have the 360 yet. He says they all want one but their parents say its too expensive right now.

All the hardcore fans buy the consoles in the first year. After that, its a matter of reaching the casual gamers. Thats why ps3's sell incredibly well at launch in different territories then fall "sharply" days after even though there is more than enough supply...in Japan, Europe, and the US. One thing that is surprising to me is how the 360 has sold a steady 200k to 300k a month since launch in the USA alone. Except for the burst prior to chirstmas and during the christmas season. The Wii is a different beast. Its priced right for every Nintendo fan to be able to jump in right away. So they will sell through till they hit about the 20 million mark. Nintendo has a steady base of 20 million gamers who will buy it due to the perfect price point. Ps3 will undboubtably loose a big chunk of its 100 million fans due to the out of reach price point. The incredible hype of the 360 and its games keep console selling steady. Though the price is still high for most gamers....its more competitivly priced than Sony's next gen system.

[Silverwolf]

Halo already bought the console, the damn thing will have been out for 2 years by the time the game releases. It pretty much wishful think on his part...

[m000b1]

exactly.

[Xi]

they still don't have a 360, or what about people waiting for a price drop? What about all the people that are sitting on the fence between the consoles?

[m000b1]

XI the same can be said for the PS3 and the Wii.

[INehalemEXI]

Yah um we all already knew halo 3 was going to sell 360s but its not a mmog. Halo will be released b4 the holiday , So will Alot of other killer games. Some ps3 exclusives, some 360 exclusives , some wii exclusives, and some cross platform games.

Mmmm Can't believe he called halo 3 the first mmog on 360.....its not a mmog , and ff11 is...

[m000b1]

Funny, now that the shoe is on the other foot all the xbox 360 fanboys who always say " ha ha the PS3 has no games This is Waiting" " lol look your still waiting for games" Waiting being the key word there hmmmmm wait just a minute what are most of them saying now oh thats right WAIT, WAIT for this WAIT for that onestly stop being mindless hypocrites and go enjoy your console. Your on here defending a game what you think is a massive great game, yet if its so great why does it need defending? Your just playing straight into the hand of the people who are here bashing it.

[SRuN4]

Seriously I usually hate on MSoft and Halo, but what we saw was from an alpha build.. even though if KZ2 was shown in alpha it would be ripped apart and you cant say otherwise. Halo will come in and get the job done and sell systems, and to say otherwise is complete lunacy.

As for all this Halo killer crap, the only Halo killer is Bungie, period. Ask any ol' school SOCOM player that and they'll agree with you 100%, the only thing that really killed that franchise was Zipper after countless games were deemed SOCOM killers on PS2 and all failed miserably. As for KZ2 and RFOM being Halo killers.. they still have to kill off the king of PS online and that franchise is in complete chaos and is slowly dieing. Until those games can kill off their own competition there is no way you can consider them [game name] killers for games on another system.

[sajj316]

It says that Halo 3 will put the Xbox 360 further ahead of the PS3. It might very well. That doesn't mean that the 360 will win the next gen war because of Halo 3. MS didn't do it with Halo and MS didn't do it with Halo 2. Will it sells millions of copies. Sure it will, and I'll be a buyer.

It won't matter how good Killzone 2 or RFOM 2 may be. It is not Halo in people's opinion, so no point arguing about it. Its like Jak trying to take Mario's throne for platforming. Just not going to happen.

You ever wonder why there isn't much of a Gears versus Halo argument? Because your lack being true 'gamers' (excellent post TopGamer although it seems your were biased toward one side) blinds you. Push the games, not the system.

The biggest mistake people make is that they are tied down to one system. You miss out folks. I know some of you can't afford it but don't bash other systems because you exclusively have one. This is not baseball (for US folks) or soccer (for International folks). You won't be killed for supporting Manchester United as a Chelsea fan. Yes, in the gaming world ... Boston RedSox and Yankees fans can see eye to eye.

This site is called 'News for Gamers', please act like it.

[m000b1]

yay a true gamer like me :)

[snoop_dizzle]

Don't limit yourself to one console if you can afford another one.

oh yeah you get a bubble

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

i just watched the halo3 multiplayer gameplay videos.
i`m stunned................
it doesn`t really look that good.
and MS`s heart and soul went it to to that.

i don`t even know what to say.........

[snoop_dizzle]

that this is a beta version. Its not running at full operation.

[ben hates you]

still being put together unlike sony bungi and MS don't just show CG clips for their games and claim its game play

[TheExecutive]

That which console you like or which games you like are JUST OPINIONS.
o·pin·ion /əˈpɪnyən/
–noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

You cant provide a sufficient argument on grounds of opinion. Many people on these sites think their opinion is fact. I have never seen so many lunatics in one place.
FACT #1
Which system you like doesnt make it the best console..

They both have great qualities

FACT #2

Many of you ladies and gents display facts as proving your point on which game or console is the best. However, in logic, one must be able to distinguish between relevant facts and irrelevant ones... not only that but facts masquerading as truth...

FACT #3

I see on this site countless fallacies daily. To name a few:
Appeal to Popularity (This topic has an extraordinary amount of these)
Appeal to Authority
Faulty Analogy
Division
Begging the Question

Fact #4

Fanboys... all you have is an opinion. It isnt fact. Plus whatever credibility your opinion has is shot to sh!t because you cant decifer between fact and opinion.

Sorry for the rant.. just had to say it.

[snoop_dizzle]

oh wait would that apply to "appeal to popularity"? Shoot. Either way what you say is true, and in some ways, all of us are responsible for doing one of those things.

EDIT: wait though, i pressed the green button and it didn't give you a bubble, and a few other people as well. Oh well never mind.

[zonetrooper5]

I'm sorry but don't you fanboys know the word called pre-alpha?

If you don't just leave now and stop being such idiots. Remember back to E3 2006, when Bungie showed the realtime Halo 3 trailer, its look amazing. Expect that level of graphics or higher when the final version is released. As for Halo 3 being all MS has then i call alot of BS.

Heres a few:

Mass Effect
Forza Motorsports 2
Bioshock
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Ace Combat 6
Halo Wars
Hour of Victory
Huxley
Left 4 Dead
Shadowrun
Tenchu Z
TimeShift
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell 5
Too Human
Two Worlds
Vampire Rain
Mobile Ops: The One Year War
Naruto 360
Overlord
Postal III
Project Gotham Racing 4
Project Progressive
Project Sylpheed
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Blazing Angels: Secret Missions
Blue Dragon
Call of Juarez
All Points Bulletin
Banjo-Kazooie 3
Castle Wolfenstein
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Crossfire
Cry On
Culdcept Saga
Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
Elveon
Eternal Sonata

Theres just a list of the games that will only apear on the Xbox 360 or PC, both are on either 360 or Windows Xp/Vista.

[BrainDead]

Stop calling epopel Fanboys when you obviously dont know what one is, because you are one. Not that its bad to be one but its bad when you turn into an extrememist. Why post that list anyway shall i post a list of PS3 games or Wii games?

[MetalProxy]

Alfa, beta, omaga, sega, or what ever its not going to be much different. Is that list supposed to be amazing? I though I was in a PS3 section of n4g, not the xnox section.

[CrazzyMan]

shadowrun.. which also run on PC, so the xbox360 limits is equal to some hi-end pc?
this doesn`t sounds pretty cool..

hope to see something amazing in halo3. :)
interesting, if graphics like in CG video of halo wars is posible on next gen consoles. =)

[Snake_Doctor]

Sony fan here and I have never played Halo 1 or 2, yet I know that that bad boy will sell well. I don't need to criticize MS for milking it nor do I feel the need to bash my distaste for it. I don't really care for it but I can see that many do therefore it will sell lots games and consoles.

I am however skeptical of a bigger bump in the gap between the # of consoles sold for MS and Sony. I mean the people who bought the 360 for GEARS aren't the same ones who want Halo? But maybe I'm wrong. Who can predict ... back to playing Resistance and waiting for Heavenly Sword

[ben hates you]

i just love your post you don't bash anyone and i'm a ms fan you get a bubble you didn't trash talk clap clap clap, i have gears i will be getting halo yes

[snoop_dizzle]

its good to hear someone who doesn't bash constantly.

[kamakazi]

this has to be the 1 millionth time some has posted the list of games coming out for a certain console, give it a rest, both consoles are getting some kick @SS games. fanboys will get whats on their consoles, i will have em all :) long live the PSWii60

[xg-ei8ht]

Halo 3 will look nothing like the trailer, that i can assure you.

From here on out, xbox360 games will never look better then G.O.W. I got that from a dev:)

Don't get me wrong, 360 games look sweet.

But to say halo3 will kill ps3 is plain silly.

Yes it will sell loads, and should shift 360's.

But when the new GT AND MGS hits. I expect ps3 sales to double.

I'd say by the time these games are released. Sales will look alittle like this.

360= 11.5 million.

PS3= 6.5 million.

Gears of war sold so far 3million? with over 10million 360 sales. 30%

Will Halo3 sell more then Gears?

[The BS Police]

1. Doubtfull, Gears hasn't even cracked the full potential of the Xbox 360, Halo 3 is gonna be enormous comapred to gears.

2.Nobody said it's gonna kill the PS3.

3.No doubt PS3 sales will increase, but they would stuill ahve to catch up to the Wii before they can catch up to the 360.

4. Doubtfull, the Xbox 360 would probably have sold ATLEAST 15 million units total by the end of the year. You also have yo take into account the Xbox 1 owners who havent upgraded yet.

5.Halo 2 sold 5 million in three weeks, Halo 3 will outsell Gears Of War easily.

[ben hates you]

and you are right about the 360
11.5 mil world wide how do i know i added janurary feb and march to 10.4 mil which was how many were sold on dec 31 06
ps3 just under 4 mil i got that from several sites you don't assure me nothing gears of war sold just over 4 million go to epic games .com as other 360 games are released sales will increase also

[MetalProxy]

I have never seen anything so Childish in my life. People are fighting over some god damn bubbles? Well, bubble this "Sorry there is more to gaming than HALO".

[Bad_Karma]

Halo this , Halo that ,RFoM this ,RFoM that , Gears this ,Gears that ,Killzone this , killzone that.... YEAH YEAH heard it all before ....................BORING!!!

[FFVIIFan]

the title is a little misleading, flame-bait if you will. Secondly, I think this guy makes some good points but the conclusions he draws from them are a little stretched in my opinion. I have to agree with everything he says on voice capabilities. Being able to communicate fluidly with your teamates and competitors is really important and adds to the immersion of the game.
However, I have to object when he says "Halo 3 is the first massive multi-player on-line game for the console." Ummm, Halo 2? Gears of War? Socom to a lesser extent even. We all know Halo will be godly though. MS knows it, Sony knows it, the world knows it. When he says "Sony is in trouble if these games [Halo 3 and Shadowrun] take off" I don't really view it as a matter of if. In my opinion, these games have taken off, and Sony has been dealing with the effects of these games, mostly Halo, since launch. This anaylst seems to suggest that PS3 sales will suffer to a horrible extent upon these games releases, and while I'm sure they will dip a little, I don't forsee a huge drop off. Basically what I'm saying is that the effects of Halo 3 on PS3 sales have already been in place since the launch of the 360. The PS3 is doing relatively well with that in mind despite the initial lackluster launch and eye-popping price.
When he says "This creates the very real possibility that Sony PC users will be more likely to choose an Xbox 360 over Playstation 3 if they want to experience cross-platform play" I have to question if he is over estimating the appeal of cross-platform play. For me at least, I could care less what system my teamate or opponent is playing on, as long as I have someone to play with. There are a lot of factors to consider when deciding wich online experience you'll enjoy more (price, quality, number of users, game selection), but I don't see cross-platform capabilites as a major deciding factor.
His speculations at the end I find a little out there also. "They could also do a stripped down Xbox, which would have the multimedia capabilities but not play games" he says. Wouldn't that basically be a DVD player then? Okay, with a harddrive. That idea sucks in my opinion. He poses the idea of a handheld, which is a lot more likely, but I dont see them doing this soon. I think they'll wait till the end of this generation war to see how it all folds out to take on the handheld market.
Other than that, it's all gravy. Like I said, the title of the article is flame-bait, doesn't accurately describe the article as much as it shows the contributors personal reflection on the article. I agree with much of what this article says, but have some problems with the conclusions he draws.

[SmokeyMcBear]

Well I wouldnt consider 16 people on a map a massive multiplayer game. With Gears its even less, its only 8 people. Halo better have more people on the map, having the crazyiness of 40 players on a map, and then going to my buddies and playing halo and only having 8, well usually its 4 on 4 everytime we play, so its kind of a let down. Look for HALO to have at least 12 on 12, I think 24 people on a map isng asking for too much.

[FFVIIFan]

I was thinking of just shear number of users total and not actual in game players. But if you're going by those standards then Resistance would have to be the first MMPOG. Regardless, I'm hoping its at least 12 on 12 like you say also. I haven't heard anything yet, but does anyone know if Halo 3 will support 'bots' for offline multiplayer.

[power of Green]

You forgot about heres a few more:

* Ninja Gaiden 2

* Timeshift(no proof its for PS3 what so ever on the hole Web).

* Blue Dragon

* Lost Odyessy

* Thessis

* GTR

* Huxely

* Infernal

* Chambora X?

And more i'm sure.

[VORODOR 2]

Timeshift for PS3 http://www.psu.com/node/962... , eat sh!t you Xbox fanboy! there is an article on this site, go to archives and you will see Timeshift for the PS3 MS loser that you are!

[n4g sucks]

i would like to give halo3 a shot but ive never played 1 or 2 and i am not comfortable with a 360 pad. i hope the make a 360 ps2 controller adapter or mouse and nunchuck combo. will halo3 sell more 360's? most likely...i hope to get a good working used 360 that doesnt scratch discs after they drop the elite and all the 360 users are selling their premiums. i have 3 friends already lined up and they their talkin $200-$250 for system, wirless controller, headset, harddrive,and all cables. till then i will just keep enjoying what i have.

[Daver]

I dont get it at all... why people are so enthusiastic about this game .... i played halo 1 and 2 and they both sucked.. seriously i think it is the worst fps i have played... Come on Sh!tbox fan you are all happy about this game because it is the only big game you will get so far... and it will be a big title not because it will push limits of the 360 its only because halo is talked about a lot by microsoft and media

[VirusE]

I know this may be hard for most of your 12 year old(no offense to the other adults on here) brains to comprehend but if you own only 1 system you really shouldn’t be posting comments. See some people (not many from this site) are "gamers". You see a "gamer" is interested in one thing, games. Anyone who chooses to only own one system is a fanboy not a gamer. Grown ups that don’t drive Honda civics with fart pipes (I bet that pisses off a ton of playstation owners) call this being closed minded. Having said that I am not very interested in killzone not because it’s on the ps3 but simply because the first one was a dud. It was widely panned by the gaming press as not being anything near as good as halo. Will I get the game? Yes, I like to speak from experience not my a$$ like most of you single system owners. Halo on the other hand was given near perfect scores by every major gaming mag in existence; it set records and got major attention. Why? Cause it’s a great game that is well thought out weather you liked it or not. Most people I have met that don’t like halo ironically suck at it. Or in the case of PC fps players they hate the balance; you have to mod hardware to cheat and you can’t get better simply from buying a better mouse and video card. Playing fps is like racing cars with no class restrictions; its all about who has the most money. Most pc game players are hardly gamers to begin with; they play 4 games a year, love to cheat and hate anything that is hard (quick save anyone). Halo was good because it was one of the first fps games that made the game about who has the best tactics not who’s got the best gaming rig or the most experience with the controls. Everyone gets the same resolutions, controls, frame rate and even weaker players can manage a head shot. I own people in pc games all the time that should own me due to having better tactics but since I have invested more money (3600 and climbing more each pay day) the game is easier for me to play (higher res and frame rates plus smoother mouse movements). People need to understand that just because you don’t like a game doesn’t make it a bad game. I don’t like to play sports games but that doesn’t mean that I can’t recognize quality when I see it. I don’t think that f.e.a.r. for the pc is very enjoyable but I can surely see why so many people think that it is. I loved stalker but I will be the first to say it’s not very well put together even though I love it. Heck I even loved gunvalkrie but I can understand why most people didn’t (it took WAY to much skill to play and had a tuff controller setup). A true connoisseur will sample “EVERYTHING” even if he knows he will not like it; that is how he becomes a connoisseur.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

There are a hell of a lot of Halo fans that haven’t bought a 360 yet. Also IMO MS will probably lower the price before this holiday season and a cheaper 360 with Halo 3 is just too tempting. Not to mention all the new comers MS will score because of the hype and media attention surrounding Halo 3.

Halo 3 is a Sony fans worst nightmare.

[Violater]

PS2 users are there? We seem to forget this.
And when the games do come for the PS3 and trust me they are coming what will happen when the majority of these PS2 users upgrade to the PS3?
Ill make a deal, lets call a truce until December , when the PS3 would have been out for more or less a year depending on region.
Though I know an end to the bickering is wishful thinking, I would just like to go through the day without seeing articles like these.

[sajj316]

I agree that articles like these are not news worthy because we are stating opinions on an opinion. This is all this is. An opinion. 100+ people have responded to this post (I myself) and I'm thinking why? Why justify this post?

N4G, It doesn't matter how many people you need to approve these articles. They will get on the main page ... baiting people to act like sheep. The problem is ... there's no shepard.

[ben hates you]

normal gamers are intrested in halo 3 xbox fans will love halo, sony fans will bash halo any chance they get and cover the fact killzone is also overrated i wouldn't be suprised if bungie was doing this to set the bar low for halo and then crushing it with awesome graphic either way i will be there to purchase halo on launch day

[Keyser]

I think that Bungie showed that footage to show how much thought they were putting into the GAMEPLAY. All gamers should care about gameplay first right? I can't stand these graphics wars. This looks better that looks better blah, blah, blah. I started Shadow of the Colossus for the first time Monday and it's a far cry from Gears, Ninja Gaiden, or Tomb Raider for that matter but man is that game fun!!! That's what's important. Graphics should continue to get better and make gaming more immersive but it should never supercede gameplay in my opinion.

I thought Halo looked fun. I guess I'm the only one. Notice, I didn't say looked graphically dazzling, I said "fun". My $60 is going to fun games. I'm confident that the graphics on Halo 3 will be better than Halo 2, I'll take that. I think Motorstorm looks good graphically but more than that, its fun!

Oh yeah, Bunige needs to work as hard on stopping the cheaters and penalizing derankers as much as the work on the gameplay mechanics because that crap shoots a dagger in the heart of a game to me.

[Contra26]

Is there any game out there on on systems....
that has made huge amounts of die hard fans? crowds, parades??

i dont think so.....

Master Cheif....FINISH THESE LTTLE ANTS called PS3 fanboys

[hiphopisdead]

there are a lot of hate flying both ways about halo 3 and ps3... i have my own views on this, so I thought of 1 question that I really want to hear as many people answer to.

please no more hate posts... at least until this question is answered...

ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTION PLEASE:

From what we know and seen, why would you personally think that you would enjoy HALO 3 more than you would enjoy UNREAL 3? Which one will you chose/buy and why?

[sajj316]

I'm more interested in Unreal 3

[n4g sucks]

unreal all day. this game runs so f#kin fast...unreal is known for its multiplayer and i think that is the best part of a fps. i will beat the one player mode in 3 days and spend the next 3 months playing online... i hope halo3, killzone, heavenly sword ,ut3 and bioshock are not released close to each other because all these games deserve my time..this is one of the best generations for gamers and i plan to enjoy it to the fullest

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

That’s how all games are made, the only original games are the first games all the rest are just influenced. Welcome to the world of creativity, this is how all art is made from the influence of other artist. So far in this generation Microsoft is where the original games are, Nintendo is where games and broken windows are and the PS3 is where forcedRay movies are.

The image below is just for you Sony fans. Because this is what you look like when you hate on a legend just because its on the Xbox.

[power of Green]

Thats the most moronic sh*t i'v ever heard on this site. A 360 fan is a 360 fan and have every right to form an opinion on the console they own. WoW! You must own all consoles to to have an opinion thats ridiculous!, Hard core gamers are worse than the Fanatics hands down.

[GameP1mp]

When Halo 3 drops, they may as well start throwing the dirt in the grave because Sony seems to be reaching as it is

[sajj316]

POG, I agree. Every person is entitled to their opinion but is that dude a moron for giving his opinion? You don't have to own ALL consoles to form an opinion on ALL consoles. If you do have ONE console, it doesn't give you the right to discredit the OTHER console. You can be a fanatic and/or hardcore gamer without insulting others.

Jason xg1 - "So far in this generation Microsoft is where the original games are, Nintendo is where games and broken windows are and the PS3 is where forcedRay movies are."

... so Jason, since I have both, does that mean I play original forcedRay games?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I think PS3 fans are going to sh!t themselves when Bungie and MS start rolling in screens and videos from the final build. They are just teasing gamers with these videos and screenshots and the devs are getting better and better at it. IMO when we start getting closer to launch your going to see beauty and your all going to need to wear bibs to catch the slobber or drool (Dark Sector and Timeshift ring any bells)

[Azza]

as Im a gamer iV GOT BOTH AND i'M A ps fan an a xbox fan so I get the best of both!

but yeah I cant understand when people down play the box (which I think is what you are trying to adress)

P.s they are just fanatics ;p

Forgive the CAPS I've hada few ;p

azza

[INehalemEXI]

Sure , Halo 3 will be succesfull its already sold pre orders for not only collectors editions but Legendary editions which retail for something like 129.99 , You could buy a nintendo ds or almost a psp.

The 360 will sell consoles because of halo 3 no doubt. As it is now in the market from what i been reading wii's and ps3's are selling faster then 360's. Though 360 has more consoles sold due to they 1 year headstart.

Since ps3 has just as many if not more exclusives + the Home service debuting around the time halo 3 pops up I think its wishfull thinking to say 360s lead will be extended. Because that lead has been continually shortened since the ps3 and wii's launch.

Im just glad each console is holding its own. I got a 360 and ps3 and they both differ enough to justify me having both.

That says something right there though about Halo 3 that theres a regular ed. collectors ed. and a Legendary edition as well.

I dont see any other console games with that much edition love.

[Says you]

So this guy is all lies.

[INehalemEXI]

Yah He also thought halo 3 was a mmog, and the first mmog on 360. Shows how much that guy really knows about games.

[sabbath420]

Dude you must have a crappy connection because i never have lag.
I rarely run into enough cheaters to spoil my experience.
The rank system works well.
How many issues did ps2 have with it's online joke? ps3 is the same so far. Sure you don't pay for it but there is no reliability at all, and it's an inconsistent mess.

[DJ]

You obviously have not used the Playstation Network on PS3. It's clean, intuitive, reliable, and can handle massive multiplayer games as evident with Resistance. It has basically every feature than Xbox Live user could ever want, minus the unified friends list (that's something they definitely need to include).

Really though, I just smell jealousy on your part. Must've been the free price that got to you.

[Boink]

I never ran into any lag playing halo2, but the cheating became so rampant that it made me pretty much give up the game. although I still got a year and a half of playing out of it.

some of my buds say it's gotten much better, and most of the cheaters are gone, but COD3, crackdown and GH2 are my current drugs of choice.

[chitown]

god damn bungie theyre playing halo 3 right now. all u haters out there that say say halo 3 doesnt look good: its the alpha build and it has time to come out second i could give a damn if it was good lookin or not as long it was fun as hell like halo and halo 2. halo 3 will be good damn awesome and everbody knows it. resistance is a great game(lots of fun 20 on 20 gets freaking crazy) too but in my opinion not comparable to halo. halo is a cream of the crop shooter and i hope halo 3 will be the same.
ps those shield grenades look sweet as hell.
pss no way will halo 3 kill sony. thats a bit of an exageration. it will effect sales however. halo 1 and halo2 were for the xbox and the ps2 dominated sales, so its gonna be fun to see what happens

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

but can it top Halo 2's sells records??? PS3 will have its day in the sun too, as for Nintendon't who cares! (:~)

[chrisin3]

Because Halo is going to be huge, and since sony does not have a game with a following like halo, sony could be doomed because of the release of halo?? What about Metal Gear 4? Metal Gear is one of the most popular video game franchises ever. They have an enormous following and have comparable sales to halo. Even though it's not a FPS, why is this author pretending super house games like Metal Gear do not exist--or why is he choosing to overlook? I think the article is a bit overstated. No doubt it will be huge, but why pretend like Sony doesn't have "those kinds of games." Add ratchet (very successful, though not comparable to halo) and Final Fantasy to the mix, you have some big games. Oh well...it's just another article written by a guy speculating. Everything here is just huge speculation, but i suppose that's the point....

[Oncnawan]

I think it is fairly obvious that Halo 3 won't doom the PS3. However, I take exception with your reliance on MGS as a star franchise for Sony.

MGS3 sales worldwide: 3.6 million
Halo 2 sales worldwide: over 7 million
PS2 user base: 80 to 100 million
Xbox user base: 22 million

Halo 2 sold twice as many copies as MGS3 to a user base 1/4 to 1/5 the size. This time around, the PS3 has a userbase 1/3 the size of the Xbox 360. Halo 3 won't kill the PS3, but not because Sony has the MGS series.

The PS2's advantage was that it had a ridiculously large library, so it didn't have to have a Halo, or a Halo-killer. That has changed this round, and Sony is going to need some stellar titles to get some momentum. Part of Sony's problem this generation is that the higher cost of developing for the PS3 will prevent rapid growth of the PS3's library. Conditions for the PS3 are now, and are going to be, very different than they were for the PS2.

[chrisin3]

@sabbath420 said:
How many issues did ps2 have with it's online joke? ps3 is the same so far. Sure you don't pay for it but there is no reliability at all, and it's an inconsistent mess.

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Response: I have resistance, and when i play with 32-40 guys, i have no lag. Sony doesn't have enough games taking advantage of multi-player yet, but the ones that do are performing very nicely. I would deem reliability as something that works consistently. Everytime i load a game and play multi-player--it works perfectly. I would consider that reliable. So...why does the PS3 have "no reliability at all," as you so assuredly announced . . .

[Shaka2K6]

This game will eventually comeout to PC, what we have seen so far from the game isnt really something to be really exited about graphics are horrible and it doesnt look like its gonna be as fun as Resistance totally destroys both halo and halo 2 in everyway.

the real badboy here is KillZone > halo3.

nuff said!

[Optimus Prime]

killzone>halo 3.... that sure makes alot of sense. Like the first killzone took down halo 2, and was suppose to be the halo killer, and we all know how that happened. Now you are so hyped over a CGI trailer of killzone 2. Thats funny

[shikwan]

It amazes me how these Fa6boys were saying PS2/Xbox how graphics "don't matter" and now are here talking about the graphics of a game that's still in it's ALPHA stage.

Sure can't wait to see what Killzone is gonna look like! It looked hella good in it's tech demo stage at E3 05!

Oh yeah, that was a Sony Studio created CGI. I forgot.

[Imknow1]

Halo 3 will not shut the PS3's coffin, probably add another nail to it. However, there two games that might but are not confirmed for the 360 (YET) :D

[D3acon]

This guy is talking complete nonsense, for starters Halo and its equvilant are not MMOGs, its simply multiplayer. If thats the case then Resistance is a MMOG and is capable of 40 players online. But this can't be true since Sony can't produce MMOGs. He stated also that since everyone is running the same hardware then there would be little lag and it wouldn't matter, I just would like to note Resistance being 40 players online and there is No LAG, but that can't be true because its a Sony product. Also I believe that Untold Legends is cross platform with the PC.

Seriously this guy is rambling and everything he says is false. And this is just my observation that Microsoft was released two years ago and it seems they are following in Sony's footsteps and are charging you, the consumer, more.

[FirstknighT]

And here we go again with the jealous ps3 haters. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker by the day. Please don't compare Resistance to Halo 3. The Call of Duty franchise is a better comparison to Resistance. Resistance is just a fragfest with the same old war torn streets. Resistance is for the kiddies. Halo is more for the older and mature crowd. Alot of people have said the story sucks but most likely you guys just didn't get it. The story is one of the best parts of the Halo world. But it just might be to adult for you guys. Kinda like the Matrix movies. The kiddies like the action, the intelligent love the story.

People have been saying that this game is overhype and it's nothing different from other FPS. Well here is my 2 cents...What other games have Halos great map design? Resistance, Warhawk, Killzone, Call of Duty: War torn streets - Quake, Unreal, Doom, Prey: dark hallways. Most other games use the same type of level design. The multiplayer maps in the Halo universe are easily the best in any FPS. The first game to smoothly go from first person to third person view when entering vehicles. Not to mention it pretty much does everything else flawless.

The ps3 duds are always going to talk smack about Halo but as you can see from the number of hits this thread has, they obviously are jealous.

Bottomline is that Halo 3 will own 2007! Halo 3 will sell millions more consoles! The 360 will expand on its lead on the ps3. And there is nothing the Sony ps3 can do about it! :)

[Imknow1]

And that is to lower the price of the system. They can clearly catch up by not the games that are coming out this year, it's the movies. So the "Trojan Horse" method might be working for them after all :D

[ben hates you]

did you know you have master cheifs number 117, shaka kid is an idiot do you have proof ps3 is more powerful no no links no nothing just empty words that make you feel better than everyone else, xbox live cost 50 year in the bundle at the store that cost 50 you get head set free xbla game and 20 rebate off a 360 game, do you have virtua fighter 5 i will be getting it and playing online unlike you i have more downloads media extender and so much more i'm suprised you have as many bubbles as you do guten tag frualine

[bee2427]

sony fans are of course going to be upset about this article because most wont give xbox the chance it deserves or dont personally like halo but that is subjective, objective is that most gamers do like halo and for one i wish they had a game equally as fun online for both systems and hopefully they will wen killzone comes out. I believe that this article is true to some extent, Halo will sell alot of xbox 360s when it hits, but the ps3 has still the most potential so there is no doubt in my mind atleast that sony will be fine. i dont think the "alpha" halo 3 gives the game justice, but i for one wont buy a second halo 2, i know alot of xbox fans would for the only reason that they love halo jus like sony fans wont get it even if it is great for just stupid reasons, doesnt really make much sense to me cuz i personally dont think the single player isnt all that great. but this is really dumb to fight over this cuz its like not watching scarface(a classic) because you dont like al paccino... but who doesnt like scarface

[Shaka2K6]

halo 3 will be another 6 hour shoorter like gears of war or lost planet with really horrible online play ? thanks alot dvd and to microsoft for sticking with last gen media just to keep the cost of your console low.

why if you paying to play games online $80/year u still dont get 40+ complete madness that the PS3 can offer since launch for FREE!!!!

and since PS3 is alot more powerfull and has real next gen. features then its pretty obvious KillZone will destroy halo 3 in everyway.

[Monchichi025]

Just like the "Halo 2 Killer" beat Halo last Generation right!!! LOL

Boy you sure sound desperate when you start comparing a game that was straight crap to the most highly regarded game out right now.

Face it, Halo is King and will continue being King, selling Millions of 360's to go along with it. Just like Halo 2 did for the original X-box.

Why is it so hard to just accept the Halo is just untouchable. It's the reason why I gave up my PS2 and went with the 360 this generation. Nothing, absolutely nothing on PlayStation can compare in the sheer joy this game gives to me and all my friends. Friends who are not fanboys like all of us here.

And guess what game they are waiting on before they buy a system: Yep, HALO 3!!!!

[BIGBAER]

QUOTE: "It's the reason why I gave up my PS2 and went with the 360 this generation. Nothing, absolutely nothing on PlayStation can compare in the sheer joy this game gives to me and all my friends."

Halo and Halo2 combined equal a lot of things done right. Nothing beats the sheer genius of Halo 2 multiplayer. Nothing even come close.

[Mattey]

I remmeber when i used only play ps2 and wanted nothing to do with xbox.... then i played halo 2 online at my friends house and two weeks later i went out and bought a crystal edition xbox ONLY for halo 2, and i think halo 3 will do the same thing to alot of people. And i still have my ps2 but the only game i bought for it since was god of war

[VirusE]

You must own them all or be willing to own them all to have a "VALID" opinion. Brand loyality is for kids and uninformed consumers, tech changes too fast for it to have any validity. Look at the toss up that happend with amd and intel when the core2duo launched. Or what about nintendo? Sony ruled the portable music roost with the walkman yet now apple is king.

Gamers will buy all 3 consoles and a pc to get "ALL" the AAA games. A gamer is someone whos hobby is gaming. Each platform has top notch titles, why would you not want to play them all? The reality is you can't afford more than one system so you go out of your way to bash the other systems out of insecure rage. You are such a fan boy that it is wrong to own ANYTHING other than a 360. I own a 360 and love halo but i suck cause i gave sony some cash so i could play mgs4 and GT. Sorry i take play video games more serriously than you power of green. I bet you wont touch nintendo games "cause they look too kiddy", you can only watch violent movies, you talk tons of trash in online games and you can only listen to extemely mainstream metal or rap that you constantly try to push off as underground. You are a clone of a clone of a clone, all you fanboys are. You are under 21, you can only own 1 system, the other systems sucks cause you say so and your name is a weed reference; so creative you are.

Please explain to me power of green how the hell you can review ANYTHING that you dont have first hand experience with? By being a fanboy thats how.

[Mattey]

everyone should take some notes from this guy before posting ever again

[Skizelli]

What's with all you graphics boys saying how Halo 3 looks like crap? Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but since when did graphics make a game? Like Halo's ever been about graphics. Halo 2's graphics wasn't a huge leap from 1, but did that stop it from doing well? It's the gameplay and plot that matters. Anyone who hasn't played the original Halo with a group of friends over some linked Xbox's wouldn't understand. 'Nuff said. That alone made me go from a Halo hater to a Halo lover.

And enough with the childish console wars. I'm a 360 owner, but this article is ridiculous. He sounds like a total fanboy. Play what you like and STFU. Some of you people act like complete morons over things that are so trivial. It doesn't matter what you say, what you think or what you believe--the bottom line is nobody cares except you and others like you.

[WTF]

Halo 3 will be the best game of this year and the next and the next without a doubt.

[sandip787]

will be a system seller, thats a given. but to what extent,is another story. i think 90% of the people that will buy H3 within the first month will already own an xbox 360. im not slating the game or any thing else before people start crying. sure, the xbox had a userbase of around 22mil. the ps2 had a userbase of around 110mil. i dont think that ps3 or xbox 360 will reach the previous numbers, moreso the ps3 IMO. and as for killzone, im betting that it will be a great game, possibly AAA, but HOW THE HELL CAN YOU TELL?! nothing about it has been released! no screenshots, no videos, only the trailer at e3. i dont think anybody can compare anything until they are released.
anyways, im gone.
bless

[Oncnawan]

A gamer that owns an Xbox 360, I can say with confidence that Mr. Enderle doesn't. His article shows little understanding of the past and future games for the 360. As has been pointed out, Halo 3 is not an MMO.

I think my favorite quote is "While there are a lot of good games out for the Xbox 360, including Halo 2..." Halo 2 was released for the Xbox 1, and there are plenty of good games for the 360, which he would know if he had ever played on the console.

Why do we listen to people who talk about that which they do not know?

As far as Halo 3 goes, it appears that it will be a very fun game. Bungie seems to have learned their lesson from the many mistakes of Halo 2 and Halo 3 looks like a blend of its two predecessors, which is delicious to me.

[chrisin3]

Yeah, I know what you are getting at. MGS 3 didn’t sell quite that well, but MGS2 for PS2, which sold over 7 million, and MGS1 for PS1 (6.6 million) sold much better. I think people are excited about MGS4, so we may see sales above MGS3—granted enough PS3s are sold. I understand what you mean about install base, but the caveat is the xbox didn’t have too many great games (compared to PS2) when HALO 1 and 2 were released. It was a big deal for xbox owners, and so many people flocked to buy it. Without trouble, HALO1/2 was the best franchise for Xbox. Every game on the Playstation 2 suffered stiff competition. That system has a ridiculously large library of great games, so I suppose it’s a hard comparison any way you say it. You make some great points…

“Halo 3 won't kill the PS3, but not because Sony has the MGS series.”
I was never trying to go there. I am just saying the PS3 has BIG games coming, but this article seems to neglect that at a certain point. I am not really a fanboy so I am not worried about a halo-killer. I just think MGS is significant enough to be mentioned when compared to halo 3, that’s all. That game will move systems, along with FF and even ratchet. I know some diehard ratchet fans, lol.

Honestly, if HALO 3 is nearly as good as they say it will be, I will buy an Xbox 360 core system and buy the dang game. ;) I like sony, but i also like great games.

[jules]

its on its way...i said back when this was like 360news or something...halo killz-one killzone...and the ps3 is hyped like y2k....
say what you may halo3 will sell 360s...obliterate all challengers its halo for god sakes...blessed...i am a gamer and right now the only thing ps3 does is fold some chairs....thats really cool...but not fun to play...sorry that comment was off topic...

[artman]

I only play halo 1 on xbox... just for a week... I can't stand FPS type of game... it make me sick (dizy)
I'm not sure why people love this type of game so much, I played RFOM, it's nice... but it's also not my type of game...

but honestly ... the way I see it... halo 1,2, (hopefully 3 final will be better) have not improved in animation... I don't like to see the way they walk... it's just remind me of Counter Strike... and other FPS game... they are floating.... they should start to create game with realistic walking and running.... especially jumping

halo will be sell good on US, but not in asia for sure... I don't see many of my friends playing halo.

[ReconHope]

"I will buy Halo 3 primarity because is most hated game by Sony fan girls."
"Heck, I will buy 3 copies of this game just to piss Sony fanboys off. It's funny as hell."

please i insist do it, just do it(starsky and hutch)

[IPlayGames]

Halo 1 was the ish because i never played a online like that be4 halo 2 was ok everybody skiped the game and went straight to online play. Now halo3 should be good i just hope it live up to at least half the hype that will make it a great game and i also hope its longer than Gears then ill be ok.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Halo 1,2 were great games also and 3 will not dissapoint..materafact halo two single player sucked...bot as good as one..alsodont sleep on KILLZONe this is the game to watch

[NextGen24Gamer]

You really believe the myth that the dvd9 is why Gears was 10 hours....ha ha ha ha...Then how would you explain Oblivion being 130 plus hours of gameplay? Or Condemed, a launch title being 25 hours of gameplay? Or FEAR being a good 15 hours of gameplay? Or quake 4 being a good 20 hours of gameplay? Or Rainbow Six being a good 20 hours of gameplay? I understand that many fanboys think that its due to disc space...but its NOT. Most Shooters are anywhere from 8 to 12 hours of gameplay. Prey for the PC and 360 are identical in length...Half Life same deal. Identical in length...It has nothing to do with disc space and more to do with the developers plan. Shooters are repetative...so therefore you don't want to bore the gamer too much. There is no specific length that they shoot for. They just try to make it entertaining and fun for the gamers. MS is a software company....they are masters of compression tech, ect...disc space won't be an issue this generation. Sony would like you to think otherwise. But Computer tech is always more advanced than home console tech...and you see computer games still on DVD....Now, when computer games start releasing on Blu ray or HD dvd discs....then you might have a point about disc space limitations. But as of now and the next few years....It won't be a problem. Resistence was how many gigs? And it didn't look nearly as good as FPS games for your computer or the 360...More disc space for texture details is a myth people. Every generation compression techniques get more and more advanced. But Sony has to make their fans feel like its needed and important. When we see a game on the ps3 that does things the 360 can't do....thats when I will agree that blu ray is needed. But until then...I'm believing what most developers have stated. Its not needed this generation. Most consumers aren't stupid and know why sony put blu ray in the ps3. But, some of you actually believe it had to do with games. WOW.

And before people start talking about Resistence having massive multiplayer....PC's have been doing much more than that for years.....And even the 5 year old xbox had a FPS that had 50 player multiplayer. Thats not anything special. Its just up to the devloper. IF they feel it has good balance and works with what they are doing with the game. Gears would be horrible with 50 player multiplayer. It would take the feeling of intimate violence away from teh game. Same with Halo 2. The 4 on 4 matches are much more fun than the 8 on 8 matches. But, 64 players on Battlefield works fine. Its a developers choice...but nothing to brag about.

p.s. I really enjoyed Halo 1 and 2's single player game. I played through both on every level of difficulty and had a blast doing so. But, I also realize that the core of the game is the multiplayer fun. But, I can't see how someone can say Halo 2's single player sucked. It was one of the more memorable experiences in gaming for me. The problem is when you play "Great" games...You never want them to end. Its ok folks. You can finish the fight soon enough in Halo 3. Adn I'm sure it will be "EPIC"...

sandip787

I am a True Gamer. And I am biased to "great" games. I'm make it no mystery that I'm very pleased with my 360 purchases. I also make it no mystery that I'm very happy with the blu ray player in my ps3. I speak very frank about my thoughts based on my experience. If it was up to me..... The 360 would have 1 gig of ram and a quad core CPU. And it would come with HD dvd . But I realize if MS did that....by they way they could have....it would defeat the purpose of making a console accessable for "ALL" gamers...not just rich folks like me. I would personally spend 2000 dollars for a video game console if given the option. But, I realize its a business...

With the ps3...I would have went with a quad core CPU instead of the Cell...I would have had unifed shaders and extra ram for graphics....1 gig would have been nice. I could care less about wi fi....I would never play a game over a wi fi connection. Not when I know wired is superior and way more stable. I could care less about the card readers as well. I don't mind the blu ray player in it. Thats the feature I use the most. But, as is....the way both systems are set up....I get much more play out of my 360 right now. When and if better games release for the ps3....I will be the first to talk about it on this site. Motostorm was a let down for me. And Jin, DJ, Deepbrown all said that once the reviews would come in after the online mode added....the ratings would go up. But its been the exact opposite. Its now dropped to 8.2 from 8.5. Resistance was a dissappointment for me. But I realize its due to me being spoiled with superior 360 and PC FPS games for a long time now. If I had never played Half Life on the PC or FEAR, PREY, Call of Duty 2 & 3, and of course the mighty Halo 2....I would have enjoyed Resistance more. So I do understand its not a bad game. And some who aren't as experienced as me might love it. But even with that said it averages 8.8 . Which is "GOOD" but not what they hyped it up to be. I was expecting at least a 9.1. Thats what Call of duty 2 averaged easily at the 360's launch. So yes, I'm very happy with the over performing 360....but I haven't given up on my ps3. But, I won't lie, and say I'm happy with it either.

[Funky Town_TX]

I hate 8 vs 8. It is complete chaos.

[sandip787]

considering you are a 'true gamer' you really are biased to one side arent you?

[hulk_bash1987]

Is obvious that Halo 3 is going to sell like crazy regardless of whether is Halo 2 with better graphics...its mother effing Halo. I do have to admit that this game is MS hype monster like Killzone is to Sony. The only difference is that even if both these games dont live up to the hype, Halo will still sell better because it has a far better track record than Killzone does. It may sound like a fanboy comment but im just using common sense.

[FeralPhoenix]

I don't really know how much this "Rob Enderle" guy knows about 360 or the PS3, some of his comments seemed like he's getting his info second hand, this stuff sounds like "palm reading", they make generalizations thats true for almost everybody which is suppose to make everything else they say sound creditable. "So Mary there is a problem in your family, isn't there?", [wait eyes closed] "ahh, I sense that you will see and old friend in the future." -LMFAO, so in conclusion Halo3 will sale millions and millions of copies and of course 360 sales should rise around that time, how much? who knows?....but either way PS3 is not doomed. -No sh!t!

-oh, BTW I'm going to buy Halo3....who would have thought that before now, "Finish the Fight!" -lol

[murc13lago]

so many fanboys wow so much hate
well i have all the systems and a pc so who cares
but this will sell no doubt
half of xbox bought both halo 1 and 2
because was the only good game online
xbox 360 has 10 million right now so i quess 5 million games sold
and they wont care what it looks like as long its fun
well i never played halo 1 or 2 because its fps and i just dont like fps on consoles so damn hard playing with thumbsticks i prefer kb/m
well all i gotta say is that dont restrict yourself 2 just 1 system
true gamer

[BIGBAER]

There is a reason that nearly half a million Halo 2 matches are played daily by an average of 250,000 unique players (see Bungie STATS: http://www.bungie.net/stats... ).

The reason is that Halo 2 multiplayer is incredibly fun. Halo's maps are among the best ever designed for FPS multiplayer gaming. They allow --- invite --- many different strategies and approaches regardless of gaming skill.

I've had hundreds of hours of fun playing with friends in Halo 2 matches. For those with little to no experience I assign them positions and duties that fit their skill level and allow them to grow into the game. They can still help the team.

In other situations, when playing with more skilled team mates, I am always willing to handle whatever position that will help us earn wins.

Halo and Halo 2 have so many of the basics aced that it is hard to find criticism and easy to give praise. The games and matches are pure addictive fun. Thousands upon thousands of gamers agree on this: Halo 2 rocks!

I, along with millions others, can't wait to play -- and get lost in --- Halo 3.

Don't hate just because we find in Halo what we look for in a FPS multiplayer. If the Halo series is not for you, that's fine. But don't deny -- or even criticize, others for loving it. There's room enough for all types of games AND gamers.

All I can say is enjoy it all: live hard; play HARDER!

[Boink]

well over 200 comments on this. fanboys spewing the usual.

to the guy who wrote the article, mission accomplished!

[Bonsai1214]

i have to disagree with this article. It won't put it further ahead, but it'll help it maintain its lead. lord knows that bungie could make teletubbies 4 and put halo 3 on it and it'll sell like hotcakes. hopefully it'll live up to its expectations.

and about the proportion of people who own the system buying a game, no offense to the original xbox, but when there is essentially only 1 stand out game, people better buy it..

[Covenant]

Shouldn't this site hand out asbestos suits before posting articles like this? Worst flamebait I've seen in a while. Get over it and enjoy games on the system of your choice. Jeez.

[power of Green]

You're a moron as if the masses buy all three consoles then decide to what they have prefference for.

#92 all you are is a Hardcore gamer. Just STFU with your moronic rants and reasoning. sheesh!!!!!!.

I'm going to do a poll in game shops asking people why they preffer one console over the other then i'm going to tell them they have no right having that opinion untill they have all three, fucin moronic at best. I had 2 PS3s sold them for money and my bro has one and a couple of my buddies aswell. Go to bet son... Stop the nonsense while you're at it!.

("Gamer": one who plays games) thats all it means Video games, cards etc. The industry views folks that play Video games as gamers. Your Harcore BULLSHIT logic is not mainstream what-so-ever.

Casual gamers/Gamer/Hardcore gamer is all there is. Hardly anybody gets down with the sub-culture Hardcore meanings and terminoligies.

There will be prefference based points of veiw no matter how much sh*t your Hardcore ass talks sh*t.

Quote:------ Please explain to me power of green how the hell you can review ANYTHING that you dont have first hand experience with? By being a fanboy thats how"-----

^^^^Are you fuc*in kidding me; First off i tried to sell one on E-Bay and ended up selling it to my brother and the other to my buddy so i play my brothers when i visit.

As if Reading about PS3s info isn't enough! WTF does first hand experience have to do with being excited about what MS doing vs Sony?, Price point and line-up etc?(others ofcouse; for me its only line-up and feel that has my mind made up). Like i said Moronic at best.

So if i get another PS3 and then give my opinions based on what i read as 99% of people on this site can only do even the PS3 owners my post will be more valid?.

I can own a 360 and a Sony fan could surely know more about tech/line-up/sales stats than i do, do you understand?

How old are you man/Dude?.

[Robotz Rule]

Halo 3 is awesome,but that's not a reason to trash the Playstation 3,I own both a Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 and get tired of MS fanboys always talking about Halo this and Halo that,is there anything else you guys can say?,and Halo 1 and 2 are sh#t compared to Resistance,maybe if you MS fanboys can stop hating on something you don't have or haven't even played :)

[Robotz Rule]

Double post:(

[omansteveo]

YEAH HALO!! what are people complaining about if you go on xbox live and watch the halo video that bungie put up so many some odd months agos they showed us the graphics engine, so why are people worried? Halo is a fun game and after i watched the multi player vid doc i thought same thing thing you guys did, until i went and played halo 2 right after and realized that even in alpha stage hal3 looks great and has made some real strides

[tomfoolery]

Very flippin entertaining!!!!!

[n4g sucks]

i personaly dont even own a xbox 360 but i will before halo 3 comes out....why??? arnt i a sony fan???yes but a good game is a good game. its ok to play other games on other systems..has sony or microsoft been loyal to you??? i think not. i feel like resisance made me fall in love with fps now i want to play them all. i think the best part of halo 3 is that everyone will play it...even at 3:00 in the morning online.( thats my time to shine )...i never even played a online game until i played resistance and now relieze what i missed on the xbox.....better late than never

[The BS Police]

You should play Halo 1 and 2 before you go through Halo 3's storyline, just so you know the storyline.

[n4g sucks]

im actually going to purchase halo 1 for my mac ( our visit demonoid ) halo 2 might have to wait until a video game dryspell. their is just way to many great games this year .. the story will eventualy come together for me ( ill visit youtube ) the online multi player is like crack for gamers...i need some

[IPlayGames]

Im a PS die hard but i love games. Its not gonna sell a lot of consoles but out of the 10mill 360 owners about 9 1/2 are gonna but this game. Will killzone be better that is up to the gamers but fanboys wont admit it (much like with Gears ROFM is the all around better game story, online and actual time playing single player but Gears has better graphics) anyway Does anybody know what xbox big game for next year?? dont tell me its another halo spin off(Wars) cause if it is there gonna turn this series to a watered down ver. of itself

[TheMART]

SO WHY IS THIS ARTICLE SO HOT?

WHY DO SONY FANBOYS ARE SO EAGER TO DROP THEIR POSTS IN THAT LARGE QUANTITIES?

BECAUSE THEY'RE FREAKIN' SCARED OF THE HALO 3 EFFECT

Plus all those other AAA games that come exclusive to the 360 or get the former PS AAA games

Forza 2
Bioshock
Assassins Creed
GTA4
DMC4
Mass Effect
C&C3

Just a couple that will come just before summer, or just after. The list is so freaking long. A gamer is having the best experience on the 360.

Dudes, I am a 360 fan. That's for sure. I speak out for it clearly. Some disguised Sony biased ones here say they are real gamers. But seen their posts in articles and articles themselves they're clearly in disquise. Deepbrown, DJ, Truth and a couple of those other guys, your eyes will be opened this year.

Respect to TopGamer as he owns all systems and can view the consoles how they are. 360 for the games, PS3 for a cheap BluRay player. And that's how things are right now.

[kingboy]

We`re here not because of your precious Halo but to defend stupid microsoft dev`s talking smack about the ps3.

[P4KY B]

Wow.
What is it going to be like when the game finally arrives?

Here is a link for all the PS3 fanboys http://www.samaritans.org/

[highps3]

Ummmm I think we are all just looking at a video of really bad gameplay and graphics thats why there is a mad dash of hatred.

Funny, I thought the Xbox 360 would improve over Gears of War... Especially with Halo 3, The MIGHTY Halo 3....

LOL, that so didnt happen.

Isnt this the game thats $120.00? Thats not a 120.00 game even if they do include "Tard Hat 4000"... + Live fee. Probably downloadable maps also. Patches will become 100 gamerpoints so they can pay devs to work on fixes.

K-Mart we have a blue light blogger...

[Antan]

WOW! this is a lot of posts!!!! but i aint getting involved in this mess of rants and ravings! I will buy it of course....if its good,GREAT! if its bad, no problem.....not the end of the world is it?

Best To All
Ant.........

[Icryo]

Looking through the huge list of comments, this site is definately going to the dogs. Everyone, read through the posts and you'll see how childish, arrogant and hostile they all are.
I like this site but please gamers, lets keep coolheaded.
Otherwise this site is going to become more like: News 4 Invelids.

[FirstknighT]

Thats called respect and fear! The ps3 side has news on Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Lair, Uncharted and LilBigPlanet with very lil comments. Where are all the ps3 fanboys posting??? Thats right....right here!!!! Thats jealousy kids!

Halo 3 alone will destroy anything that the ps3 can offer for years to come. But hey atleast you get to decorate ur lil virtual houses! ;) HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Babylonian]

it got 260 comments because of the ridicilous title which is atracting many people and causing many flamebaits. Don't get that exited.

[VirusE]

You are going to go to a game store and do a survey? You tried to sell one on ebay? What does any of that crap have to do with how good the games for it are? Maybe making points like that gets you some place with your buddies on the playground but in the real world you have to make points that carry weight! Nothing you said has any validity at all. I obviously struck a nerve with you young urban thug fanboy. You need to go to google asap and look up how to argue, it will help you in your future ventures from you parents basement young killa. You had a ps3 in a box in your living room so now you know how good or bad the games are? You should try playing the games. You keep talking about how this person said this or that, do you have the ability to come up with your own opinion? No and that is why you are a fanboy; you are to young to think for yourself. Not one single respected magazine on this planet reviews a product they dont first spend lots of time with. You are wasting your time kid, if you don't have a point then please be quiet. What is "bet" and how do i go there?

[Double-Edged]

Halo 3....

will kill the competition. Straight up.
So many fans for it... and so much media is around it....

I think there are more Halo 3 pre-orders than PS3....

seriously... no kidding.....

but correct me if i'm wrong

[Double-Edged]

I've never owned a sony system.
But i've been a fan since twisted metal....up to now.....

Just hearing the Halo theme songs..... and seeing him just about to finish the fight....

shoot...
We all wanna know what happens next.

and this is all just story/campaign...

Going to multiplayer will be insane.
My friends could play on halo 1 with 4 controllers and just duke it out for HOURS....

Now the third halo is commin....

KUDOS... good times await

[Shaka2K6]

People who already own an x360 are the ones who are going to buy this game, smart people like i will wait for the PC version with much better graphics,free mods,free online gameplay hopefully,shorter load times ect.

so all the x360 fanboys already bought an x360 (for the third time?) this game is not gonna be selling any systems.

and its just another average FPS nothing it hasnt improved or innovative the FPS genre in anyway.

so all you x360 fanbois shut up about this game i dont need to say this again.

KillZone > halo 3.

nuff said!

[hamburgerhill]

Yeah you go ahead and wait 3 years for a pc versions silly guy! Also quit hating because it's selling regardless of what your pathetic beliefs are! I hope Killzone does well I really do but there's know need to always compare it to Halo! You can call it not innovative but obviously there's something about it that excels all other shooters and I can feel it when I play! Shadowruns another good shooter for 360 by the way and the controls feel tight and comfortable like Halo guy's so make sure you keep a look out for this one also! This game will sell 360's and I also believe this will separate it from PS3 even further!

[CAPS LOCK]

this game is overhyped. it will just keep everyone from selling their 360. and what's there after halo? have u wondered that? there will not be a good game for a long time. how do you know it will be good huh? even the alpha stage looks crappy. just compare that alpha stage to gears or liar's. and the mart assain's creed, dmc4 and gta4 are also coming to the ps3. you should of included fable as an AAA so now that leaves u with froza, bioshock, c&c3(looks average) and mass effect. vs heavenly sword, liar, final fantasy, metal gear, ninja gaden, and killzone.

[THAMMER1]

You talk about what the 360 has to offer. But do you even think about the fact that the PS3 offers less when it comes to games. The only exclusive that is worth talking about is MGS4. You guys are all sad. Just scrol throughout the post in this thread you will see that more PS3 fans posted than 360 fans.

Go play R:FOM if it is so great!!! You can not stop Halo from being what it is. So your hate is just fruitless. Your PS3 is over hyped and you know the truth that is why you are here acting like you have no commonsense and putting your @ss out here for every one to see. Talk about lame. WOW.

To be fair I would be a bitter lil Son of a B!T(# if my Favorite consol was getting it @ss kick by (((THW Wii which is a kids toy and then it direct competitor the 360 is killing it in games selection, price and all around public awareness.))) This must kill you on the inside as a gamer to know you are not happy and want what you could easily have if you were just not too hard headed or bias.

JUST DROP IT SONY FANS YOUR CONSOLE HAS NO HALO or HALO KILLER. THER IS NOT ONE GAME THAT IS ON THIS LEVEL GET OVER IT. Go WATCH CASINO ROYALE.

[Double-Edged]

you got some balls saying that.
I wonder how you keep your bubbles by being so blunt.

Anywho.

good post.

When the God of games comes out (Halo 3)...

I'll see you on Live.. cuz you'll get owned by me.

KUDOS

[THAMMER1]

I'll get owned HUH I'll make you eat those words. Lets play some H2 soon. MOOHOO MWAAAHAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA!!!!!!!

[hamburgerhill]

Halo is unexplainably the best shooter of all times and I know that all of these haters feel the same way! You see it hurt's them to know it's coming and see these video's that show good results! I loved games like Shadow of the Empire, Golden Eye, HLF2, CS, Shadow Man, Ico, GOW, GEOW, Mario series, Nights, Metroid, Rygar, NG, Tekken, MGS, Riddick, Soul Caliber and many more which I know many of you can agree that you too enjoyed them which leads me to the case that since we share interest's in these games and all loved them that the only thing restricting you guy's from Halo is the fact it's not on Playstation! Were not that different and it's ashame that most of you will miss out on this game that put's all other's to shame! If you guy's sat down and actually played Killzone or even Black for that matter then you owe it to your self to try Halo and see how shooters are supposed to be done! I really don't see any point in going on about this because the fact is that some of you will just never understand and give prop's were it is due!

[Giro]

At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference. I think Halo 3 will be a massive hit, of course it will no questions asked. I can't wait to get hold of it when it comes out in November.

For me Halo 3 (although I'm sure will be a most excellent game) was just a minor reason to own a 360, its the load of the other excellent games which are already out and are yet to come out which interested me and made me go for a 360 instead of a PS3. Saying that I don't have anything against the PS3 and I certainly don't have anything against the people who own one.

The only people I do have a problem with are the ones who insist on insulting and generally being childish because they own a different console than the other person.....basically fanboys.

I say 'so what' if Halo 3 means MS sells even more consoles and keeps ahead of PS3, the market is large enough to sustain the 3 consoles. So, apart from lining MS's, Sony's or Nintendo's pockets with more cash what possible difference does it make to us, the consumer, if one console sells slightly more than another?

We're the ones who should be sitting back and letting Sony, MS and Nintendo fight it out themselves, we have to make sure we don't become lap dogs to these giant corporations.

Thats what I reckon anyway, am I alone on this or do others agree?

[ChefDejon]

lets just put it at this sony is gonna win this console war its just a matter of time. because of blu ray. DVD last gen disc format can only compete with Blu ray high def disc format for so long. <know this.

when these first party titles come out in september then you will see how useful blu ray is. it all comes down to the disc on consoles.

hell you could have the greatest next gen hardware ever but if your running last gen disc like dvd with 10gb of space then whats the point. ( seems thats what the wii did) If Xbox 360 had HD DVD from the beginning it wouldnt even been question Gears of war would of looked even better and had 10 acts with 7 chapters in each.

IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE DISC.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

and here i am thinking it all came down to the games

[CAPS LOCK]

why do u think Microsoft is releasing a new hd 120gb? its not because of movie downloads, its because of extra game levels. so xbox will charge u extra for the levels that were suppose to be on the game but would not fit in the dvd. dont you get it? every 360 game will be 6-9 hours long excluding rpgs. so sit back and play your 6 hour games and then pay more to microsoft to get to level 4.

[snakeater3]

hey hey ..guys, just chill out will ya. all this fanboyism...when will it end? the truth is..we all like to take sides in every sphere of life...be it politics, football....and yes , gaming...it's the usual us versus them argument... but we dont have to fight now do we? if some non-xboxfanboy tells me that gears is a great game, then i ll take his word for it...(i've never played the game but it looks great),just as i would expect them to agree that the mgs series is fantastic. surely, i would like my system (thats the ps3) to have the best exclusive games and to win the next gen console war ...I would not expect anything less to justify my $600 dollars purchase...but then again it wont be the end of the world if sony fails now would it? actually, come to think of it i would be extremely pissed if that were the case and i would be forced to play halo...btw i got that game on my pc and it's $#ite believe man...utter crap...wtf is the fuss all about? i mean ...come on xbox fanboys...dont you have anything ELSE to play with ? you americans ...thinking you can come up with a console that could rival japanese technology...thats frikkin ubelievable ...go on and keep on making burgers ..thats what u re good at ...making ppl obese ....leave the games developing for the east you dumb F#ck$ !! oops ...thats the sony fanboy in me taking over my manhood heheh....in a nutshell guys...dont be a pu$$y and buy all 3 consoles ...choose a console ...stand by it ...defend it ! in the long run, sony will end up in the lead...you read it here first ;)

[TheMART]

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Ummmm I think we are all just looking at a video of really bad gameplay and graphics thats why there is a mad dash of hatred.

Funny, I thought the Xbox 360 would improve over Gears of War... Especially with Halo 3, The MIGHTY Halo 3....

LOL, that so didnt happen.

Isnt this the game thats $120.00? Thats not a 120.00 game even if they do include "Tard Hat 4000"... + Live fee. Probably downloadable maps also. Patches will become 100 gamerpoints so they can pay devs to work on fixes.

K-Mart we have a blue light blogger..."

Dude: You will be eating your words Christmas 2007. I'll guarantee ya. The Alpha build shows nothing. It'll be on par with Gears and over it when it launches on graphics.

I've heard you and other SOny fanboys before about Gears. Saying it wouldn't live up to the hype. It came out and crushed anything out there. Resistance doesn't stand a chance. The PS3 launch even got worse because of that one game.

'Lol, that didn't happen'... Uh you know it isn't released, RIGHT? It happens in the future. I guess you still have to learn hard in November, when your beloved PS3 once again has a bad Christmas pwned by the 360 and the Wii!

Again, wrong info, no real facts you're supplying.

59,95 dollar/euro is the standard price of the game
Then there are two other packages, where the highest priced has the mask and other freebies. Only if you choose for it. I'll set for the normal 60 Euro one.

Plus, not one patch will ever be priced. On the PS 'free' network (I wouldn't even call it a real network, it's upgraded PS2 online sh!t) you'll see more and more priced stuff. Sony needs to get earning on some levels as they don't sell enough games to get their losses back

As I proved again, you know sh!t. But well that was known before right. I love to see your faces Sony fans, behind the screens. Starting the next months. When Forza 2 releases. Together with the Force Feedback MS wheel it will be damn great.

Then shortly after that we get Bioshock exclusive, C&C3 (biggest real time strategy game) exclusive, Mass Effect will follow in June. What will be released in these months for your BluRay player?

That duckgame maybe?

EDIT:

To the guys going wild below. READ my post. I am talking about the coming months, May and June. Not even for the games after the summer.

GTA 4 (for 360 also, coming Fall, not before summer)
Devil May Cry 4 (for 360 also, not before summer I thought)
Killzone 2 (do you have some screenshots or video other then CGI E3 2005? Will launch not before 2008)
Heavingly Sowrd (when does it come? Not before July)
Lair (same)
GT 5 (2008)
Ratchet and Clank (Beats the hell out of viva piniata --> If you say so)
Assassins Creed (for 360 also, out in may/june)

So pwned agian dude. The one game that will arrive before summer is also for 360. The rest is... TBA???

[VORODOR 2]

BECAUSE THEY'RE FREAKIN' SCARED OF THE HALO 3 EFFECT

Plus all those other AAA games that come exclusive to the 360 or get the former PS AAA games

Forza 2
Bioshock
Assassins Creed
GTA4
DMC4
Mass Effect
C&C3

Lol now who is a blinded fanboy, you obviously are if you don't see the fact that Sony also has as many big killer apps as well

GTA 4
Devil May Cry 4
Killzone 2
Heavingly Sowrd
Lair
GT 5
Ratchet and Clank (Beats the hell out of viva piniata
Assassins Creed

and loads more, but still you keep talking crap like Xbox has more better games and stuff, then you start typing out the list, but to be honest all i see is games i can get on my PS3 or PC, and i sure as hell don't want to play Forzra, the first one sucked balls; and i'm not interested in half the games out on Xbox 360, wtf are you all about saying PS3 is a cheap Blu-Ray player, it's a PS fukin 3, it's a gamming machine, it's brilliant, it's first class all the way and if you weren't so madly in love with your Xbox you would see that, if people want to shed $600 out on a top gamming machine then what the fuk does that matter to anyone else it's not like it's them who has to pay for it and plus i don't think youd be actually complaining if you owned one Mart, in fact i bet if you had one youd proably say ak Xbox 360 not that good. So all you idiots on here who call themselves gammers or fanboys, the bottom line is there's no difference either way your routing for a console and that makes you elite because let's face it you all end up defending your console and nobody gives a fuk what you say apart from the freaking nerds like the Mart and so on who have little else to do with there time but promote there stupid Xbox 360, what i'm saying here is you don't promote your Xbox because you think it's so good, you promote it because your obbssessed with MS, it doesn't matter if the Xbox 360 were the sh*test thing to ever hit the planet you would find a way to twist it Mart because you are a MS fanboy of the worst kind and guys like Topgammer allthough he dopesn't resort to stupidity in his posts he's nothign but an undercover MS fanboy, here's some advice Mart get laid or soemthign because you are one sad mother fuker.

[DiLeCtioN]

NEED TO SHUT THE FUC UP MAN, SERIOUSLY. IF YOU ARE SO PROUD OF YOUR CONSOLE.WHY DONT YOU STOP ATTACKING THE PS3? UNLESS IT'S SO ADDICTIVE AND HAS BECOME YOUR HOBBY

[THAMMER1]

#1 He is blunt.

#2 He is telling the truth.

#3 You can not prove him wrong.

#4 Every thing the Mart has Siad may not be the nicest but it has come to fact since 2005.

#5 He is on every article reminding you that your wrong to follow Sony so closely and suck down every thing in from them as facts because the lie to the public to push their console.

If yor offended by him then read his post 2 times then search the facts and for your self. After you do that and you find out that your would be fighting a losing battle not because the Mart said but because it is true in the 1st place.

Hate it or love it you Sony fan boys are in denial right now and Halo 3 will be almost as good as the Super Bowl DAMN IT!!!!

[darx]

When did Killzone become a killer app?

[hiphopisdead]

I agree to the 2 people that were able to respond to my question (sajj316 ErcsYou). I want some Halo 3 fans to answer my question.

It's a very simple question...

From what we know and seen, why would you personally think that you would enjoy HALO 3 more than you would enjoy UNREAL 3? Which one will you chose/buy and why?

[P4KY B]

I always thought that Unreal Tournament and Unreal Championship were a bit fast. I dont want people jumping 20 feet in the air and running at 30 mph. I felt that there were too many weapon capable of 1 shot kills (Sniper rifle, Flak Cannon, Redeemer, Shock rifle)

But then GOW arrived using the unreal engine and it was more like real life (I live in a rough part of town.) People moved at a normal pace and cant jump. Which gives mortals like me a chance to plan an attack.

I think Halo works for everyone and thats why its so popular. Kids with the reactions of a fly can run around dual wielding SMG's and old timers like me with a gaming history that started with the ZX spectrum 48k can take time to work as a team and guard each others backs. I played Halo 1 with 3 friends almost daily for years so i am looking forward to Halo 3. I just hope its more like Halo CE and not Halo 2.

The main reason for me that a PS3 FPS will never be as good is down to the controller. I have large man shaped hands. The PS3 controller is just too small.

[Black Republican]

I don't think PS3 user really care much about HALO3 being released, if PS3 users also own a X360 they will more then likely also buy it.

The only people who are hating on HALO3 are SCARED PS3 Fanboys, and that's all their is too it.

They are just scared because wether they like it or not HALO3 has a chance of being one of the most sold games for this GEN <--- this is also the same reason they are hating.

[NextGen24Gamer]

I enjoy both Unreal and Halo. The pacing is different for both games. Unreal has faster pace gameplay, while Halo is more stategic slower paced gameplay. Halo is more community and team orientated. Unreal doesn't take well thought out team work to be successful. I think both are Great yet different. Bungie's level layouts are top notch as well. People actual have memorable moments from playing Halo that stick with you for life. Its just too fun. Unreal, QUake, ect....are AAA shooters for sure. But, Halo personalizes the violent experience of shooting people with community based gameplay. Its a social shooter with deep strategies. Every halo gamer has a story to tell about what happened in a multiplayer game with friends.

for example...Me, my girlfriend, my son and his friend were playing in a match of 8 vs 8 capture the flag. There were 4 guys on our team that at one point convinced my girl to get into the jeep with him to get to the other side of the map to the enemies base. She did and him and his buddy in the jeep drove over a cliff. Killed them all. Now, she thought it was an accident and when they got another jeep they invited her again. She did so and once again they drove over a cliff. So now we figured out they were working with the enemy. We were upset and laughing at the same time. Next thing you konw our own teamates are driving the enemy over to our base with the jeeps. We ended up killing everyone. You get points taking away for killing your own teamates....but we had to do what we had to do to win the game. So it ended up being us 4 against 12. We won the match and we laugh about it to this day. THere are many memories like that when you play Halo, and every Halo player has them.

In the end to answer your question. I love them both. They both offer different FPS experiences and both are top notch franchises. But, if I had to choose one...for me it would be tuff. But I would give the edge to Halo due to the pacing and fun factor and community aspect.

[hiphopisdead]

Firstly, this is a big question, that i think is tough for a hardcore halo3 fan to answer (by hardcore, I mean, someone who is making the title a killer app - but I dont know how this could be a killer app if another game coming out for the system , in my opinion , looks like its going to be a much 'better' game).

again, the question is:
From what we know and seen, why would you personally think that you would enjoy HALO 3 more than you would enjoy UNREAL 3? Which one will you chose/buy and "WHY?!?!?"

Now, your response was very well put. I do agree with you that Halo 3 is a good game. You can have 2 racing games: Forza, PGR, and both be great (but different). But to say that a game is a killer app, would mean that... This game shines as the best in it's genre/type of games.

Your whole second paragraph (about the story thing), is simply an explanation of team play scenario (which unreal 3 showed that it will have - driving vehicles, flying vehicles...). Besides your second paragraph, you keep stressing that the 2 games are different. but I believe that the difference between Halo 3 from Unreal 3 (game genre/type) wise is very small.

Besides the names of the characters and the story lines of single player, tell me something that halo 3 has that unreal 3 doesn't (something that is significant to gameplay).

With that aside, I think that when you compare Halo 3 to UNREAL 3, there is no question as to which will look better (graphically). They have been perfecting their engine for so long, Epic even came out with Gears of War which was prased for its looks, and UNREAL 3 is supposed to be even better. When you compare gameplay, Epic has been in the FPS realm for much longer, and I will not agree with anyone who trusts Bungie ahead of them.

Halo 3 gameplay started surfacing within the past year. But UNREAL 3 gameplay has been seen way back when PS3 was first announced. They've had much more time to perfect it, as opposed to Bungie.

Again, this is not putting Halo 3 down as a bad game, it obviously, just from it's sales, proves that a lot of people love it. But I think the reason isn't because of the game itself, but as much as it was the first good exclusive title for xbox fans.

[Mike]

go halo!!

[NextGen24Gamer]

Halo just feels right. The balancing is better than Unreal. Unreal is more fast paced and hectic. Halo feels just right with its pacing and weapons/map balancing. Bungie got it just right in regards to multiplayer FPS fun. I don't know which will be more fun or look better in regards to Halo 3 or Unreal. I'm excited about both games releasing. But, Halo has a bigger and more dedicated following/community. Halo was the first big game for the original xbox. It launched with the system, won many awards, and sold an amazing amount of games and systems.

Unreal, Quake, Doom, ect....All great FPS games. Halo 3 from the video's I have seen on the xbox live marketplace....Looks incredibly fun. The single player aspect of the Halo games is much better than the single player aspect of any unreal game, quake, or Doom game. The enemies artificial Intel is amazing and the gameplay feels just right. Halo is not over hyped. It delivers a fantastic single player and multiplayer experience. When I get 16 people over my house for some multiplaer FPS fun...hands down everyone wants to player Halo 2. Second to that is Counterstrike, Unreal, and Rainbow Six. We just take a vote and play the game that most want to play. People love playing Halo 2. Its hard to put a finger on it. Its just "FUN" and thats what games are suppose to be about. Graphics are great. But gameplay is more important in the end. Bungie has mastered the gameplay of their FPS shooter Halo. And 14 million consumers later....and dominating reviews....and sweeping award shows....is the result of their hard work paying off. With extreme success....you get people who want to bash. But Majority rules. And Halo 3 will sell more copies and have more online multiplayer matches than Gears of war and Unreal combined at the end of 2007. When Halo released...it was the best looking console game...when Halo 2 released it was the best looking console game. I would assume Halo 3 will raise the bar even further. But, PC games have always looked sharper with higher resolutions by default than console games. But, I'm sure Halo 3 will compete with the power of the 3 PPU processor and the advance GPU that is in the 360. We will see. Gears of war easily competes with the prettiest PC games.

Halo 2 has the duel weapons, different type of grenades, the plasma grenade is too much fun, Fly in space ships, drive in different vehicles that just "feels right", Un riveled map layouts, un riveled weapons balance, ect.... I think its the best FPS of all time. Though Unreal, Rainbow Six, Counter strike, Quake, Doom, Fear, Duke Nukem, were all great as well. All of them are AAA shooters. But there is only ONE Halo.

[Double-Edged]

Unreal is an awesome game... but i'll play Timesplitters over it.

Timesplitters has the best weapons selection EVER!!!!!

from tommy gunz to wierd ass alien pistols

[hiphopisdead]

I'm first replying to TopGamer and PAKY B.

in response to TopGamer. it is amazing how much praise u are giving a game where, it is 100% un-argued, that the true potential of it's genre is centered around a keyboard and mouse.

And to make things worse (why I chose those specific games in my question)... is the following:

There could be different types of FPS games (like a Call of Duty, and a Quake... a Killzone2, and an UNREAL...). But Halo is competing right alongside games like Quake and Unreal. The premise is verrry similar; You are a guy, shooting aliens, weird weapons, huge multiplayer options/maps, unrealistic gameplay... etc.

the problem I am seeing is that people who are saying I like Halo 3... I want it... it's my fav xbox game... that's fine. But people who are saying that PS3 should watch out for HALO?? -aka- the guy who wrote that article and so many more people on this forum... PS3 is one of the consoles that will have UNREAL...

SO TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION:

From what we know and seen, why would you personally think that you would enjoy HALO 3 more than you would enjoy UNREAL 3? Which one will you chose/buy and why?

I would chose UNREAL3.

Here is why I believe this is the true (unbiased) answer:

1)
If Halo was never released, and this Halo 3 was the first game of the Halo series. if it was released multiplatform (so the fact that it's exclusive doesn't matter), and gamers were chosing between HALO3 and UNREAL3... I'm pretty sure more would chose UNREAL3... but!... more importantly... whoever ended up buying both... I am very sure... MOST... would most likely prefer UNREAL3.

ALSO

2)
to Sony console owners, HALO is like a Splinter Cell (before they started making it for sony)... yeah it was good... some people loved it... but if I had a PS2... I had my Metal Gear Solid... even when they came out with splinter cell for sony console, ps gamers still more want their metal gear. BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY... even if they did release HALO for PS3, PS3 gamers would buy UNREAL3 instead... but if GT5 came out on xbox360... a TON of xbox360 owners would buy it...

that's why GT, MGS, FINAL FANTASY, MARIO, UNREAL, ... and many more... are killer apps (at the top of their game/level in their genre)... and Halo is not

[Hayabusa 117]

I've played Halo and Unreal on the original XBox...and I prefer Halo. I'll buy Halo 3...I won't be buying Unreal 3 because to me it's "just another shooter". And I know quite a few friends barely recognize Unreal 3.

I agree with Elite gamer. I'm slightly better at Gears of War than Halo 2, and I think it's because the slower combat give me more time to strategise. Halo CE was slower than Halo 2, which is one reason why I prefer it. Even before Gears of War, I've always thought of an online game would be better if it had longer drawn-out battles rather than quickly in, quickly out. Gears of War proves that, although it's sadly marred by connection issues.

Halo, like Elite gamer said, is somewhere in between. It's certainly slower than Unreal, and I prefer it for that. It's strategic, so when I kill someone, I get the satisfaction from knowing that I tricked him; not that I have a better aim, which to me, hardly feels satisfying.

What has Halo brought to FPSers? Auto recharging shields, which is getting more and more common in all types of games. seamless on-foot to vehicle combat.(something Unreal seems to have picked up on). Melee combat that doesn't really on you to select a specific weapon. Grenades that are not only useful, but essential. Open levels. Enemies with decent AI. Matchmaking where you play against people of a similar skill level as your own, making the matches challenging, but without playing against ridiculously skilled players. The party/lobby system. Maps that have character and feel like locations, as oppose to a mere series of ramps and corridors.

I have not followed the Unreal series from the beginning, so I'll like to know...what new stuff has Unreal brought to FPSers?

@Jugganaut.

You people don't seem to understand the concept of a good game. You buy the game, play it, like it, and don't want to play anything else. Surely the PS has games like that?

[ChefDejon]

just proved that xbox 360 only game really is Halo 3 yea it has other great titles but its all about halo. since all the xbox fanboys agreed with this article which is pretty much saying that Halo is the only game that really matters that much. that just proves to me there is no reason to get a Xbox 360 except for Halo 3. why would anyone get a buy a system from a company that is only really counting on one game really to push it that much ahead. this was the same thing with the first xbox, another reason why i would never buy a 360.

[drewdrakes]

If theres nothing to fear from Halo, then why are so many people commenting on it? I mean if im not afraid of something, i just leave it alone.

Also Halo 2 vs RFOM? Im not even going to comment on which is better, but one came out in late 2006 and one came out in 2004.

Halo is liked because it is one of the pioneers of online and fun, etc. Nowadays games are copying Halo, theres not escaping it. There are many similarities between RFOM and Halo. But Bungie will have to push the boundaries again and prove that they are number one.

Naysayers out there who think this game looks like crap, any game looks like crap before its released, and vice versa. I though that Motorstorm looked absolutely amazing, and then it was released, and the graphics were pretty, but it was a pretty boring game aswell.

[Hayabusa 117]

Yeah! Look at all the comments a Halo 3 article got! It proves it's an awesome game.

EDIT: Wow, look at my comment number...prophetic, or something.

[Black Republican]

why is everybody comparing R:FOM to Halo??

R:FOM first needs to beat GEARS OF WAR, and then PS3 fan boys maybe you can consider comparing Killzone to Halo.

[QuackPot]

It's simply a damn good shooter. But there's nothing brilliant about the game. Everything in it that makes it successful are obvious and can be easily copied:
(1) Stunning locations Visuals as well as audio.
(2) Awesome weapons
(3) Dual Weld weapons
(4) usable vehicles
(5) net play and gimmicks(eg man cannon)

I'm surprise PS developers haven't learned form the Halo franchise: KISS

Imagine if Resistance was set in the same locations as Halo, you we are to duel weld and use all vehicles. It would equal if not better Halo with these alone. But alas, Resistance only pawns GoW.

Luckily HL2 is coming to PS3 so at least with this, PS3 gets the best shooter in the business.