Is Rockstar still working on the PS3 exclusive?

PSU Writes:

"In June 2007, director of third party relations at Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) Michael Shorrock revealed on the Official PlayStation Blog that Sony and Rockstar had come to an agreement on developing a new PS3 exclusive.

"As part of our long standing relationship with Rockstar, and the incredible success for both companies with the cultural icon that is Grand Theft Auto, we've agreed to the PlayStation exclusive rights of the next great franchise from the Rockstar studios," Shorrock wrote.

"Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3, harnessing the power of CELL and Blu-ray disc and this deal lets them do just that...This is really a win-win situation for both companies."

President and CEO of SCEA Jack Tretton further discussed the new agreement with Rockstar on Spike TV's Game Head show with Geoff Keighley, confirming that the unnamed project was not L.A. Noire and that Sony was able to release Take-Two from GTA IV exclusivity in exchange for acquiring the rights to the publisher's next franchise.

"What we're really excited about is the next great franchise from Take-Two and in exchange for letting them out of that exclusive (Grand Theft Auto IV), we've got the rights to the next great franchise from Take-Two."

So, what could the Rockstar PS3 exclusive be? Let's take a look."

[voice_of_ reason]

I doubt it's vaporware. It doesn't seem logical that Sony would just back out of a huge business deal with Rockstar.
"What we're really excited about is the next great franchise from Take-Two and in exchange for letting them out of that exclusive (Grand Theft Auto IV), we've got the rights to the next great franchise from Take-Two."
If Sony is willing to give up exclusivity of GTA IV, be sure they want something for it. No information doesn't necessarily mean no progress. Here's hoping anyway.

[Jpinter]

I agree. If this is true:

"Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3, harnessing the power of CELL and Blu-ray disc and this deal lets them do just that..."

Then the game probably is a 4-5 year project. I'm sure we will hear something soon.

[Jamegohanssj5]

Screw that. Just give me an exclusive GTA: VC and I'll be good.

TGSI

[MURKERR]

sony released exclusivity from gta iv because of the low instal base at the time so that next time around gta v could be exclusive as ps3s install base would be much greater by the time it releases, and considering rockstar have complained that they couldnt execute all of their ideas for gta iv due to lack of disc space and not every 360 having a harddrive it really seems likely

[FlameBaitGod]

Well Sony made a 3 game contract with Rs, so one of em is bound to be in E3. If its not.... when r they going to start lol!

[Death]

The system with the lack of disc space that doesn't have a HDD on all consoles has the longer game when you add in the episodic content. Apparently there is a way to make bigger games without Blu-Ray.

The install base has not grown enough to warrant console exclusivity again. If anything, the Xbox 360 has the larger install base, so why would they go with the PS3? You can forget creative freedom, it doesn't exist. Developers are in this business to make money. I can assure you that nobody at Rock* or Take Two has said "Let's take longer and make a more expensive game that sells half as well as GTAIV".

-Death

[GarandShooter]

How does that episodic content work on those HDD-less consoles?

[flOw]

Yea... i think it's Red Dead Revolver 2 ou Bully 2.

[solidt12]

I hope they announce a new IP. There are enough sequels out there and Sony has been going strong with new IP's so why stop now.

[PotNoodle]

I don't know why it would be a GTA that is exclusive.. GTA's have never been exclusive to sony's platform before.

[Jager]

if the Xbox 360 user base is all so larger than the PS3's, why did GTAIV sell pretty much 50/50 between the two consoles?

[PotNoodle]

@ My disagree's, care to name a Playstation GTA exclusive?

[andron]

They are exclusive to the PS brand at the moment, only on PSP and PS2. So technically you are incorrect Deathrow...

[somekindofmike]

@ Death

"You can forget creative freedom"

Go tell that to Kojima,

[PotNoodle]

andron666, i forgot about those. But none of the main GTA games have been exclusive to the playstation, the stories games were just spin-off's.

[aksmashh]

How Much More Can They Push The 360?

I Think Games Like Infamous & Uncharted Are Making Them Change Their Minds Because If They Need To Bring A Game To Challenge Those. I Still Play GTA (Not Often) But Most My PS3 Friends Don't. Even Tho They Sold Loads But Its Clear Not Many People Bothered To Go Back.

[ThanatosDMC]

Why would you want Vice City when there's a sexy San Andreas next to you?

[Parapraxis]

ThanatosDMC , the 80's music!
There are few times when i've been playing games that were more awesome than listening to Sister Christian as I mowed down oodles of un-suspecting civilians in VC.

[ThanatosDMC]

I know, i love the 80's music too. I grew up listening to them while our driver drove us to school. But San Andreas is just all encompassing it has a desert,forest, mountain, etc. Maybe if they add an 80's music station?

Also, if y'all watch the video on the link: http://www.psu.com/Is-Rocks...

Is that a new Lair game in the back of Jack Trenton and Geoffe?!?!?! Nvm... is this old?! ARGH!

[JaPo]

You morons do realise 'new franchise' means essentially the same thing as 'new IP', right?

Things might have changed without us knowing, but based on this information, we're getting a new series. I bleeding hope it isn't GTA V, either way.

[Consoldtobots]

and there it is folks.........360 owners got to play GTA-IV because SONY LET THEM HAVE IT. Now what is that all the fanboys were saying about Sony losing exclusives?/

[lh_swe]

You know how well GTAV would sell, it would not only sell tons of games but consoles as well. The loyal following of the GTA franchise would have to purchase a PS3.

[The Lazy One]

Go look at lifetime sales again.

It sold 50/50 for the first few months. It's closer to 60/40 now.

[Elven6]

Murrker: Why would Sony "release exclusivity" for GTA IV because of install base? Wouldn't they keep it because lets face it, GTA when exclusive can push consoles.

[MURKERR]

to create 2 DLC's

[silenius]

I think the exclusive game they talk about is L.A. Noir...
If i recall right it was only for Ps3 while there was a rumor for Xbox version...

[irish-leprecaun]

what does tgsi mean. pm me plz. thanx!!!

[pain777pas]

The game will not be GTA5. GTA is the cash cow whore on every system and I for one am not complaining because GTA games are one of the few that you can play only that game and have played like 10 titles if you break everything inside up and they do a very good job with everything. Now LaNoire has been so quiet that you could say its a multiplat that is being optomized for the 360. I just don't know. Another Bully type game maybe? I have no idea all I know is that what ever game it is that will be exclusive from one of the sure fire developers like R* I am already excited at all the possibilities.

[-PEEDO BEAR-]

Oh the irony.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

"You can forget creative freedom, it doesn't exist. Developers are in this business to make money."

-DEATH

a little bit of my love for gaming just died today. sad sad sad how the current is moving in todays gen.

[No Way]

Haha. I would like to have a new Bully.
I hope they make Bully 2.
The first one was fun.

[lh_swe]

Who knows it could be another manhunt or bully for all we know. But since they said its soemthing that'll utilize the ps3 to the fullest it might even be an entirely new franchise.
Either way I'm happy, Rockstar make brilliant games and I'm definetly sold on any game that comes from them.

[40cal]

Its going to be a new IP, and I thought that this was a 3 game deal? I don't know if that means a trilogy, or 3 different IPs.

But yes I am sure that this will be one of the bombs dropped at E3 this year. Sony seems to be getting a lot of info out on its first party titles as of late like Infamous, MAG, Uncharted, and Heavy Rain. It makes since to free up some space for E3 if they have big 3rd party exclusives to show and tell.

[Skyreno]

well it been said that they will put vice city ..liberty city and las vegas from each grand therft auto game maps into one big game together with all maps together ...so hey it could be grand therft auto 5 or change name a bit

[JaPo]

No.

That hasn't been said. You may be getting confused with the PC mod which combines all three areas from GTA III, VC and SA.

Of course, the prospect is fairly awesome, but I don't think the execution will ever match the conception.

+ Ohmygod wowie I hope English isn't your native language.

[Foxgod]

Utilizing the power of the cell does not equal profit.
Since Rockstar is a third party developer, why in the world would they utilize the cell, if its gonna cost them money.

Not to mention that utilizing the cell isnt anything more impressive then utilizing the cpu of the competition.
E.g Gears of War 2 Compared to KZ2, there isnt much of a difference, besides some pre rendered smoke, which isnt featured in GeoW2 because the unreal engine doesnt support it.
However, the Crysis engine supports it, and will provide the 360 as well as the ps3 with real time rendered smoke.

[ssipmraw]

you can ask many companies that exact same question, like square enix, many Japanese games have sold quite well on the ps3 in japan compare to that of the 360s but they continue to support it.

[Lou-Cipher]

Why are you trying to compare Gears 2 to Killzone 2 graphically, when Gears 2 cant even outshine Uncharted, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (THE DEMO) Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Wipeout HD (BTW this is just a PSN game)

BTW, it is not just the Cell that is very lucrative for developers wanting to make quality games, it is also the fact that they are not limited to only 7 gigs of storage.

GTA 4 took a large leap in the wrong direction, not because they didn't use the cell processor, but because they could not fit everything on a last gen DVD disc.

If GTA 4 did not add a multiplayer function, add better graphics, add better physics to the game, then the DVD would be fine. (but that is not the case, now is it?)

The bottom line is that we will never have a GTA game as good as Vice City or San Andreas, with next gen graphics, with 7.1 HD sound as long as it is limited to only 7 gigs.

[PirateThom]

Heh, you'll never get an answer.

Square Enix supporting the 360 even though no one buys the games makes perfect sense, but Rockstar making a PS3 exclusive doesn't for some unknown variable.

[Foxgod]

Dvd is not limiting games like GTA.
Dont forget that LA NOIR, Mafia 2, any many other sandbox games are all coming to the 360, and they look way better then GTA4.

But hey, if you prefer to life in your delusional fantasy about supposed power that the ps3 may have, then go ahead.
But i am telling you, and Sony themselves know it as well, The ps3 has no untapped power.
What you see is what you get, and nothing is holding it back, the ps3 simply cant do more then the 360.

[PirateThom]

Nothing has been seen of LA Noire. Mafia 2 is, most likely, been only running on PC.

So, to say they "look better" doesn't hold any weight, if we haven't seen them on 360.

When the 360 has a game that looks like Uncharted and Killzone 2, please, do come back to me.

[cereal_killa]

"Dvd is not limiting games like GTA."

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

"The Xbox 360 doesn't have a built-in hard drive as the previous Xbox and for retail games it uses DVD-9, which is starting to look outdated compared to the Blu-ray Disc solution used by the PlayStation 3.

One of the problems with the 360, and it affects games like Grand Theft Auto if you think about how much content we put in the actual machine, is the fact that they don't have a significantly larger storage medium than the previous systems. It's a slightly bigger DVD disc."

[Shane Kim]

Fúcksgod, stop crying and buy a PS3 if you want to play an exclusive R* game and tons of other great exclusives you bots can only dream about.

[Pennywise]

Funny at one point of your worthless existence you xbots might of sounded like you actually had a point. Now you guys just seem deluded and desperate. It sounds like at this point, you spend more time spewing garbage from your mouth to reassure each other rather than convincing others. It just stinks of desperation.

[Mr_Bun]

I love how Foxgod pretends he knows what he is talking about especially when he is proven wrong time after time...Ignorance is bliss apparently

[Pennywise]

Ignorance is bliss to the ignorant guy. But to all the people having to read his BS, its annoying. Ignorance is annoying.

[talltony]

Your the one living in denial if you think gears 2 is on par with killzone 2. If the ps3 has no special power over the 360 then please explain to me why nothing on 360 looks better than uncharted 1???? Oh wait your living in denial so you cant, never mind...

[Salta_nelas]

"E.g Gears of War 2 Compared to KZ2, there isnt much of a difference, besides some pre rendered smoke, "

...Seriously, lol.

Blind fanboyism at its finest. Just keep fooling yourself if it makes you a happier person, obviously you ve just proven you dont understand squat about games.

[darkzodiac55]

get one

[tawak]

whats with the smoke?
man,he sure loves smoke =)

[gambare]

The lack of sexual life makes Foxgod a sad boy

[tawak]

lol

[voice_of_ reason]

Watch, it's going to be Table Tennis 2 lol. That would be one hell of a ping pong game though...

[Jpinter]

hahaha.

[lh_swe]

It could be anything really.

[siyrobbo]

the first was quite addictive

[50CALheadshot]

strip table tennis.

no hot coffee mod

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

"Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3, harnessing the power of CELL and Blu-ray disc and this deal lets them do just that...This is really a win-win situation for both companies."

'If' GTA5 was PS3 Exclusive i would be Excited. But i don't seem to be Excited really about another GTA???(I'm a big Fan to of GTA's) I liked GTA4, but it could have been so much more, seems like it was held back by the ChatBox 360. Shame that.

[Foxgod]

Explain why the ps3 version of gta 4 was the inferior one ?
The 360 version was sharper, and ran smoother then the ps3 version.

[TheMART]

GTAIV on PS3: 640p

GTAIV on 360: 720p

PS3 got sub HD version of the game, because of the blur PS3 has from nature the edges were smooth not because of AA. Some liked that 'artstyle'

[themyk]

it must suck to have to compare multi plats all day. boo hoo. boo hoo. lets see what version of the modern warfare looks better. it well be the ps version because it's made on ps. just like burnout was. what is so hard to understand about that. games look better on the platform they were developed on. u guys sound so dopey saying crap like that. pathetic.

[ultimolu]

Get something called a life guys. Your spinning is making me incredibly dizzy.

[talltony]

To answer your question. The ps3 was held back do to the 360! All the 360 does is hold games back from being better on ps3! This should be obvious to every smart person because ps3 exclusives look so much better than any game on 360! END OF STORY!

[Man_of_the_year]

Can you explain who Mart was "spinning". Its FACT about the 2 different resolutions for both games. Saying that the PS3 did get Sub HD due to it having a lower resolution is accurate...where is the spinning?

And Foxgod is correct when saying that the 360 version was sharper due to the resolution being higher on the 360. Now running smoother...only when i installed the game onto the HDD that i found it to be smoother than the PS3 but i don't think it ran smoother when it was reading it off the disc. I did find may pop ins while playing but again only when i installed to HDD that the game ran pop in free.

@TallTony
That comment reaks so much of ignorance that i honestly don't know where to start to correct you. So...i just decided to not waste my time on your ignorance.

[ultimolu]

What does that have to do with this article?

Why do you run to the defense of these jokers every five minutes?

[Man_of_the_year]

Why do you attack every 5 minutes?

You say they are spinning...i am simply saying they are not. It's not rocket science. It's pretty obvious that if something has a lower res then its not as HIGH as the other counterpart...thus being sub par res...

Do you not agree with this obvious statement...if you are a college graduate then you MUST be able to see this.

[ultimolu]

What does it have to do with the article?

You're not answering my question.

Mart and his butt buddy are trying to use GTAIV in order to show "inferiority" on the PS3.

A multiplatform game?

Again, why are you defending these jokers?

[Man_of_the_year]

I think i have answered your question already.

I guess i am "defending" because you stated that they are spinning. But they are not spinning, they are saying that the res in GTA IV was higher than the PS3 counterpart. This is a FACT! And yes you can say that it is sub par as the par is the greatest common denominator, in this case the 360 version being at 720p and the PS3 version being 640p.

There is no spinning as you claimed there was. I am not defending them, i am pointing out your mis-representation of the term "spinning". Mart and Fox are not spinning. Fox's opinion about the smoother gameplay to me is opinion, but not necessarily truth, however when i ripped it to the HDD, i did notice drastic improvements with the game itself for the 360.

[ultimolu]

Do you not get it?

While that may be true, that had nothing to do with the article. Mart is bringing up resolutions to make it look as if the PS3 is actually inferior when we all know it isn't.

Use your brain dude.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Sounds like the ChatBots are worried??? Oh yeah...E3 is COMING!!! ;-D

Multi platform games are NOT Better on the 'ChatBox 360' it's a internet LIE People!!! Don't let these ChatBot Muppets who think they know it all CON you!!!;)
(+DON'T believe most internet sites to)

BUY A PS3!!! ;-P It's worth it, it's the BEST!!!;)

[Cajun Chicken]

San Andreas PSP, but I'm really coming to the point that a PS3 Rockstar exclusive game doesn't exist. BUT. I see an ultimate edition of GTAIV on the way for both consoles.

Although, Rockstar should really take advantage of that Blu-Ray.

[ThanatosDMC]

Actually, the San Andreas PSP game might really be possible on PSP Go! Since there's no more memory cap with the UMDs.

[heyheyhey]

IMO that exlusive project WAS LA Noire.. but now the deal has fallen through

[Cajun Chicken]

I don't honestly think that LA Noire was/is going to be any good. Generally sounded poor right from the beginning. Besides, from my understanding, was it even actually developed by Rockstar? Because I'm sure it'll just be published.

[TenSteps]

I remember when Sony or Rockstar was asked about this exclusive they said they weren't even talking about what it would be, so I doubt it's L.A. Noire since some people already knew about that and the signed exclusive wasn't even in development or in the minds of Rockstar at the time.

[PirateThom]

This Rockstar exclusive stands in a weird place.

Firstly, LA Noire was being funded by Sony. Team Bondi confirmed this way back in 2004.

However, I think it's very possible Sony dropped funding for this title (hence the multiplatform rumours/liklihood) and moved funding to another title.

I don't see why this is outside the realms of possibility. Sony aren't going to spend money on a game and get nothing from it.

[GarandShooter]

True Thom, and if this article is accurate and Sony gave up exclusivity of GTAIV in order to acquire exclusivity on the next franchise, I don't see them giving that up.

[OGharryjoysticks]

I got a tip from a buddy who works at Rockstar, he let slip what the name of the exclusive PS3 game is. It's called "Lies".

There isn't any Rockstar PS3 exclusive anymore.

Hey HDgamer, don't get mad at me. If a Playstation exclusive from R* is so important to you then direct your hate to Microsoft because they are the ones showing all the money to make sure it doesn't happen. At least that's what I heard from somebody posting at N4G :)

[HDgamer]

I got inside info from the wife of the President of Rockstar, he said that you're full of hot air and cheap tricks.

[40cal]

The 3 projects that Rockstar has in development for Sony aren't going anywhere, because Sony gave up its exclusive rights to GTAIV in exchange for there next IP.

I am sure that contracts where signed during the negotiations.

[HDgamer]

Hate? Lol I have a life, I can't be too busy with ignorance and petty antics.

[godofthunder10]

What's the big deal with exclusives.Everone that gets mad because their consoles don't have any exclusives is childish.The fact is that there might not be any more exclusives and i'll be glad.The fact is that it costs a lot of extra $ to develope games then it was last gen.On top of that sony doesn't even dominate any longer,as a mater of fact they are in 3rd place.Look at it this way.Just imagine that you own a developing company and drop the childish bias act.Will you give an exclusive to a console that's in 3rd place,hell no.If anything you're give it to the 1 that's in 1st place console.Still this generation doesn't have a domonate system like it was every other gen.The most logical answer is to all 3 unless like microsoft you pay or make some deal like sony does.Every ps3 fanboys argue that sony doesn't buy exclusives and they are wrong.Sony pays in other ways.Sony make some kind of deal with a company.They will say let me have this game for an exclusive and i help you pay to develope the next game and other ways to.I don't understand how people could get mad and hope that a certain game is an exclusive to the system they have,hell it's childish.My 13 year old son don't even act like that.The only thing that will happen is every one will beable to play the game if they like it and that's it.fanboys think that just because a game will have an exclusives it will sell system.They are right some time.I like to ask them 1 thing,do they get $ off every console or game that is sold,the answer is no.The only thing they will get is the childish feeling of knowing that they have a game that the other person can't get and it's pathetic.

[ThanatosDMC]

If you start from the time the consoles went out on retail to the amount of time it has been on the market, then you will see that Wii is number 1, PS3 second and the 360 is third.

Should Rockstar make an open game for the Wii since it has the most console sold? Yes, but no they wont since the audience for the Wii wont buy an open game like GTA.

Multiplats between the PS3 and the 360 is great choice for profit. But Rockstar developers are people that like to push the envelope as we saw with their past games from GTA3, to VC, and the to SA.

They even said they want to harness the power of the PS3 and bluray's capacity. Also, they complained that 360's capacity is limited by its disk space.

[Omega4]

I thought Sony didnt buy exclusives? So many lies.

But why R* would make an exclusive for the PS3 after how well GTA sold on the 360

[Fishy Fingers]

Well according to the article (read) it was a deal to allow GTA to go muliplatform.

Disagrees for quoting the article? Ha...

[OGharryjoysticks]

Sort of like that deal Sony had for Final Fantasy. There's ways around those

[OGharryjoysticks]

Because they want to make the best game they can.

[heyheyhey]

@DIRTY

there are actually rumors that Sony were in discussion with Square to let FF13 go multi-platform so that Sony could keep it exclusive in Japan and FFvs13

[OGharryjoysticks]

Square doesn't discuss anything this generation with anybody other than Microsoft so I know you're joking :)

[heyheyhey]

what the hell are you talking about?

Sony owns 8% of Square and I'm pretty sure they were in discussion with Square about the FF13 demo that light a fire up under the PS3's ass

[SpoonyRedMage]

Sony is always "in talks with"(aka paying) companies to make exclusives to the PS3, they don't do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

I agree with heyheyhey though, Sony is probably the reason FFXIII is exclusive in Japan where most of the money is from and it also means the sales on the 360 in the west are a bonus so nobody loses out.

[bnaked]

Sony needs one game, to show the superiority of the PS3.. And that is Final Fantasy XIII! Thats why its not exclusive.. Sonys plan, ingenious..

[solidt12]

They didnt buy it. read the article. Sony let them out of a deal and as part of the deal they get an exclusive.

[SpoonyRedMage]

And how did they get a contract for GTAIV exclusivity in the first place considering no other GTA has been exclusive?

[PirateThom]

I'm guessing that all ties into the rumours that before the PS3 launched, Rockstar had offered Sony GTAIV as a no-strings attached timed exclusive, same as the PS2 titles. Many people assumed Sony had rejected this offer because of arrogance and feeling they didn't need it... maybe there was something more to it. I'm just speculating wildly though.

[OGharryjoysticks]

I honestly don't believe there was ever a planned Rockstar exclusive after GTA4 went multi. I'll continue to stick to that belief until proven wrong because all we have ever heard about it is from Sony right after losing GTA4 exclusivity and that would be a typical PR move to try to put out the flame. The day anybody ever hears anything from Rockstar, Take-2, or one of the game producers saying any game is PS3 exclusive then it's believable, but I doubt we ever will. Sad thing is this article from PSU should have contacted Sony or Rockstar for comment about its existance instead of playing some type of crystal ball of guesses based on one or 2 statements from Sony at a bad time for them.

[40cal]

This is from the original announcement.

"We agreed with Rockstar and Take-Two Interactive Software that we wouldn't disclose anything more about the deal or title at this time, so stay tuned, we’ll share more info as soon as we can."

Its real buddy.

http://blog.us.playstation....

[Ps_alm3k]

Result is in the same logic....
You cannot judge by a Multi platform games because its not a fair judgement.( Due to bias & checks writeoff's).You judge by exclusive because it shows potential of each...

[robotnik]

Of course they are, my twin works on Rockstar and just called me to say so, so be quiet.

[Official General]

The only PS3 exclusive I wanna see now from Rockstar is the next installment of GTA to be set in a modern/updated version of Vice City that may possibly include the whole state of Florida. In addition to this, I wanna see all the best features missing from previous GTA titles and more newer ideas, more varied missions and side activities and more buildings to enter, more gangs and turf wars. The icing on the cake would be to cast the main character as a fallen Latino drug lord who flees his country to America to start himself up again in Vice City - storyline then starts.

Give me these things and I'm all good!

[free2game365]

"Although the original Max Payne was an exclusive for PlayStation 2"
no it wasn't, it wasn't designed for the PS2, it wasn't best on the PS2, the PS2 was not the only console it was released on, and it was not released first on the PS2, I don't see why crappy poorly researched blog posts are even allowed here

[Mr Face Creamer]

Typical PR bullsh!t... GTA sold better on the 360 and MS buying Rockstar's DLC episodes also earned them ALOT of money, so if they gathered at least one hundred million dollars more than the PS3 version the xbox... Why would they go exclusive? GTA IV is on the PC and 360 and soon-to-be announced is the Wii version. So much for exclusivity.

[GarandShooter]

Why would they? Because of a business deal. Try reading the article. Sony gave up exclusivity rights to GTAIV for exclusivity of Take Two's next franchise.

A better question would be: If Sony is misrepresenting this, why wouldn't R* refute it?

It makes sense for R*. They get Sony to give up exclusivity on a well received, well known franchise, one that everyone knows R* will be able to profit from handsomely (especially with the MS DLC deal), in exchange for exclusivity for TT's next franchise, which may very well be a new untested IP. So basically they swap a known money maker for an unknown.

If your $100 million on 360 premise is correct, it was the deal with Sony that allowed it to occur, so one could say Sony was partly responsible for the profit R* made from the 360 version, including DLC (because without the game, there's no DLC). Wow, Sony should be thanking all the 360 fanboys who bought GTAIV for making their deal with R* turn out so well for R*.

[Nergardless]

yeah i was wondering especially after i looked at my max payne which i bought back then on my first pc

[maverick1191]

lol lol and lol look at fart and foxgod trying to make gta sound better on 360 everyone knows rockstar would make a 10x's better game on blu ray (ps3) ie a new gta 50gb of space to make an amazing game but gets 40 odd GB cut out because its on 360

[PR3DAT0R]

They could make like the biggest sandbox game ever with the entire resources of the play station 3, A proper grand theft auto like san Andreas expect 10 times bigger and ten times better graphics, imagine such a game only possible with the ps3 (not being fanboy, being realist).

[Lucreto]

infamous might so that. It is a sandbox game made by a first party studio who know how to programme the PS3. If a huge sandbox game you are looking for it will be that.

[shadow2797]

I'm highly skeptical of that. The fastest thing Cole can do is surf power lines, making a huge city would not be a wise gaming decision. Heck, I felt like GTA IV was too big. Driving from one side of Liberty city to the opposite side was a pain in the @$$. Now imagine it with a hero who mostly runs around and can't drive a car. It's not a good idea to make a massive city IMO

[BlackPrince 42]

I'm going to call vaporware on this one. It's just a guess but since we haven't heard anything in two years of supposed development I'm betting nothings going to happen. We'll know for sure after E3 though. If nothing is announced there then we know it's all bull since no game spends 3 years in pre-development, except for DNF that is.

[maxcer]

announced in 2007 and nothing has been shown or talked about yet, if this game is real it wont be out for another 2+ years considering sony likes to announce games 18 months in advance

[aldesko]

Yeah... like R&C:ACiT was? or Restistance 2? or Motorstorm 2?

I'm sure if this secret game is in development, it's up to R* to decide when to announce it.

[ultimolu]

Whatever it is, it'll be big that's for sure.

[Gamer_Politics]

sony is full of crap it didnt allow rockstar to do anything because they never gave exclusive rights of that GTA franchise to sony in the first place...serious all that crazy pr talk

[aldesko]

Then why didn't R* deny it?

[Gamer_Politics]

GTA has always been mulitplatform....it used to just be timed exclusive to the ps consoles...but sony didnt allow nothing because 2k owns all of rockstar titles...and MS was just smart enough to work out things so that the game could be released at the sametime this gen...sony has no control over any ip's at rockstar dont let sony fool you they just dont wanna admit that they're getting beat to the punch this time around

[shadow2797]

Do you have any idea about the kind of repercussions that could come from flat out lying like that? The stockholders would be furious.

PR may spin things, but they never flat out lie. If it wasn't true, Rockstar would have denied it.

Just because you don't know about every little thing that happens behind closed doors, it doesn't mean there isn't anything happening. Apparently Sony had a deal with R* for GTA IV exclusivity, they let R* back out of the deal for a new exclusive franchise. Sorry buddy, it's true.

[younglj01]

being a PS3 exclusive.In my opinion that was tha best GTA game i have ever played even though GTA IV had mutiplayer.Only thing was missing from that games was mutiplayer I would have love to start my own gang(clan) and got online and see which one could take over tha most land.I think GTAV needs to come out on both consoles bcause after reading this article it seems like Sony and Rockstar used Mircosoft to fund this unnamed title.Thats just my opinon

[sak500]

NO...they dont want to work their @ss off and sell 500k and not even breakeven. They almost went bust till MS stepped in and saved them.

[Rhezin]

if you think a console-exclusive GTA wouldn't sell well. Sak500 you need your face smashed in 5 inches.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

I WOULD BEAT THE SH1T OUT OF FOX, MART AND SACK, easy picking :P

[Foxgod]

You cant handle me.

[sak500]

LOL Bring it on

[Galvanise]

was for timed exclusivity for games in the GTA franchise that appeared on home consoles. Thats as much as I'm willing to divulge on that.
The games being worked on, I'm fairly certain.

[Gamer_Politics]

Lols rockstar will never work on any ps3 exclusive unless sony coughs up some cash which isnt going to happen..so all titles will be multiplat with MS paying for all the great dlc

[FPShooter]

You basically just summed up all MS has, a bunch of multiplats and dlc that they charge their gamers for additionally to paying to play online.

[Gamer_Politics]

you must have already watched E3 because how you know what exclusives that 360 have...and MS has put out couple titles this year not all of them have been good though...and that fee us gamers pay is so MS doesnt have to charge devs per download like sony does with psn i guess that would explain why that network lacks alot of content

[FPShooter]

You made the comment that "rockstar will never make any ps3 exclusives" and your saying i must have already seen e3.

judging from your statement not only have you seen e3 you have seen at least two years into the future.

what besides the "incredible" cross game chat that xbox fans are always talking about does the PSN lack. The truth is that the PSN isn't too far behind Live, and just my opinion but I would rather have a free service than pay 50 bucks for one or two more features. I wonder what you guys will say when SONY offers this features for free.

[Gamer_Politics]

so you expect Rockstar just to give away exclusive titles without any dollars bein exchanged?when they could make more money with the game being on both consoles.....and we are paying that 50 dollars a year fee so that MS doesnt have to nickle and dime devs everytime someone downloads the content...the reason psn is freee because sony charges the dev instead of users

[FPShooter]

The PSN is full of original content. So SONY must be doing something that the developers like. we (me and you) are consumers so why should you put your pockets on the line to save the developers some money. That just shows SONY is focused on trying please their gamers.

No. I don't expect R* to give anything away for free. thats not good for their business. Honestly I have no idea if its going to happen or not neither do you. If it does it will be some kind of deal that SONY has made with them. SONY has had a standing relationship with R* so who knows what will be exchanged between the two companies.

[Gamer_Politics]

all i'm saying is for this rockstar exclusive to become reality sony will have spend some type of money just to keep it only for ps3..and why should devs have to be charged for the content that they are giving to us fans?so your saying its ok to charge devs each time someone downloads there demo?

[FPShooter]

of course R* will have some sort of benefit from the deal. But to say it wont happen is being closed minded because no really knows.

"Why should developers be charged for content they give us fan"

The problem with that comment is that developers don't give us fans anything.
last time I checked developers were not lining up to give games away for free. Try to understand that we are the consumers without us it would be no developers or anything else for that matter. If you feel like you want to keep paying to play so developers can save a few bucks then go ahead but I and millions of others like what SONY offers and love playing for free.

[TwistedMetal]

x360 owners got/get to play gta4,ff13 ect because sony allowed it. you guys actually think M$ has some kind of control. sony is the master mind behind everything this gen. everything has been put into place perfectly and thats why ps3 is kicking the living daylights out of x360 games. like I said before, if you don't have a ps3 this gen your not a hardcore gamer.

[Gamer_Politics]

every gamer knows MS got those games because of smart business tactics..sony didnt allow anything those devs just wanted to make some money off there investments and 360 was that work horse that could bring back those dollars.....but i'm used to hearin all these excuses by sony fans since 07

[RumbleFish]

I don't care about anything before it's officially anounced.

[Shamuz]

He said 'next great franchise' not 'new great franchise'

[Veneno]

Rockstar was supposed to show us the way in this next-generation. But now they are just another lowest common denominator game-maker. Who cares about what Rockstar does anymore?

[deshon09]

hopefully it at e3

[nefertis]

Its just a matter of time when all the xbots will see more and more of sony hot exclusives and they will feel depress because microsoft wont't have no over the top exclusives like sony.

[Gamer_Politics]

like ps3fan boys have been crying for those 360 timed exclusives to go multiplat since 07 and devs are finally giving them to yall 12 months later...how do you know what MS has to offer this year?must've already been to the future and back again//

[rayjelic]

I don't think anybody cried, you see stupid it's call playing it smart your MSFT leaders are so afraid to let third party publishers release a game that everybody can enjoy, because they fear the competitors so what do they do they throw money out there so they can keep it to them self, I applaud Sony for not playing they game why because Microsoft still didn't make up for that 50 million they put out for GTA dlc so who lost out there, it's a difference when its there own company but hey I guess there's no good games for MFST anymore right Halo dead and

Gears of War is epic's

So what do you got to say now?
"Oh but R* is not Sony."

No there not but they are good partners, with a strong relationship plus they state R* wanted to do this, Not Sony throwing money up first saying give it to us,....

[click 2 get virus]

i would love to see bully 2, manhunt 3, and Smuggler's Run

[likeaboss302]

From a business standpoint it would be stupid for them to make a console exclusive game as a third party developer. They just cut their market in half. The only reason the add-on content for GTA4 with MS made sense was the large pay day up front. If Sony ponies up big bucks then have at it Rockstar.

[Persistantthug]

It makes sense to me.

Sony releases the TIMED exclusivity of GTA 4 for a TOTAL exclusive future game.

"Why would they do this? That isn't smart" some of you say, but think about it. Rockstar/Take 2 wanted to sell craploads of GTA 4, but PS3's install base at the time was small(er). It was far WISER (wise > smart) to let Take 2 have their way rather than strain a relationship with a powerful software developer and publisher. Even more so, Take 2 NEEDED this to happen because EA had been eying them for a while. So with the promised and eventual success of GTA 4, TAKE 2 was able to fend off EA and remain in business just as they are, all the while, Sony still has their "exclusive" ace in the whole with even more time for Rockstar to have studied and learn the PS3's learning curve. Keep in mind that PS3's install base has also grown which gives Rockstar even greater incentive to deliver the best game they can with the unlimited space (BluRay) they claim to need.

I think Sony did the right thing.

[siyrobbo]

it doesnt matter if the new rockstar game is an exclusive or not, next gen it will go to xbox, MS will make sure of it. They seem to spend most of there time and efforts chasing the PS exclusives while sony seems to spend there time creating them.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

Rockstar only goes with SONY because of the great relationship the two companies have. If anyone remembers bout the SPECS OF PS3. ROCKSTAR CO-FOUNDER SAYS SOMETHING BOUT UTILIZING THE PS3 Cell Processor, to create and bring out the power of CELL. Don't remember much bout the interview but he says something bout POWER OF THE PS3. And I hope Rockstar would show the it's exclusive at E3 09'. I LOVE ROCKSTAR GAMES I HAVE ALL EXCEPT ONE THAT KINDA SUXS it was on the PS2, I forget the name of it though. And it's not all about the money M$ its about the quality and how much more realistic you can make a game looks, acts, moves, & sounds.

[SlappingOysters]

And according to this it is coming out this year

http://www.gameplayer.com.a...

[Blades08]

From what I read it will be something new. It says a new franchise not an existing one (GTA is an existing franchise). So guess until they are ready to announce it we will just have to wait.

[baodeus]

@Garandshooter

Well didn't they sell at least 1 mil already for the DLC? You know at least that many people have HDD right? How about Halo 3, at least 10 mil people have HDD correct? There are more people with xbox 360 HDD than u think. And if u just need to play game on a disc, u don't need HDD do you? Just look at the Wii....i don't think lack of HDD would make it less attractive to casual gamers.

@Jager,
and yet it would only sell half of that if only on the PS3.....i'm pretty sure Rock Star would love to sell just that much cause they love creative freedom.....*roll eyes* It is Fu&*&k business for god sake. You open "business" to make money, create new jobs due to higher demand, get more money to fund more projects....etc....and make everyone happy, but no, you should work your as# off to make these Sony Loyalist on N4G happy. Get real guys, i can't wait till you guys get out of school, whenever that is, and get a job....would love to hear about how you love working out of the goodness of your heart.

and Sony giving MS their GT4 (which is a well known IP) for a new IP (which may not sell well)......yeah i'm pretty sure that what they teach you guys in business school.....BS, man do u guys ever think for once. Sony just can't afford exclusive from 3rd parties GOT IT. Don't they have their own developers to care for?

[Persistantthug]

If You read my comment # 23 you can clearly see why Sony would release a TIMED exclusive game in favor for a TOTAL exclusive game in lieu of straining a powerful relationship, and possibly even losing or changing their good will relationship via EA.

And btw, Metal Gear Solid 4 can serve as a prime example of a company siding on the side of "CREATIVE FREEDOM". Yes, in spite of all thats "conglomerate" and "capitalistic", the creative freedom factor apparently does still exist, so you are wrong about that, baodeus.

[cmrbe]

So Sony actually had exclusive rights to GTA4 but they let it go for the rights to this exclusive game.

It must be one hell of a game for Sony to let go of GTA4 exclusive.

Come to think of it. I am not surprise that Sony had exclsuive rights deal for GTA4 considering the sucscess GTA was on the PS2.

You know what guys. I wont be surprised if this is the mysterious BBC game.

[Shrinkwrap]

The game is L.A. Noir but will not be called L.A. Noir.

Smart move, by Sony to give up GTA.
For a new franchise Exclusive.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

For all we know R* next game is guaranteed to come to the PS3.