Microsoft finalizing Bioshock 2 exclusive deal with Take-Two?

GB:

"Bioshock was hailed as the game of the year by many critics back in 2007. The game definitely earned that title as it mixed various genres while providing an engrossing and original story. There is still some question as to if Bioshock 2, the sequel, will be a timed Xbox 360 exclusive like the original or if it will be a day 1 multiplatform title."

[GWAVE]

Article titles ending with a question mark suffering from questionable validity?

And here's a quick history lesson: the article writer mentions that the first Bioshock game was a "timed exclusive" as if 2K intended to port it to the PS3 all along. This is completely incorrect and misleading. For many months, 2K denied rumors of a PS3 version and said again and again "It's NOT coming to the PS3!" http://www.joystiq.com/2007... The fact that Bioshock came to the PS3 -- a game that the creator Ken Levine said "I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding...we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft..." -- is proof that the PS3 is an attractive business platform for developers.

This sounds like yet another article grasping for straws to defend Microsoft's non-existent exclusive lineup this year. Let me also remind people that this same site wrote this article, which TOTALLY ended up being 100% correct... http://gamer.blorge.com/200...

[YungXclusive2K9]

somebody tell microsoft they can't buy love

[40cal]

Microsoft dose need to do something to lock down more exclusives for this year and next though.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Sony paid $$$$$ to get it on their system.

It's always evil bad MS with you and righteous noble Sony. I really think that you believe developers work on the PS3 pro-bono and everything they do for the system is because the "ps3 is the coolz!"

[Major_Tom]

Sony paid money for them to get it on the PS3? Are you joking.

Some one is a bit delirious.

[Blademask]

Or did you miss that?

They seem to pay for their own first party AAA titles & Dev versus investing 50 million into multiplatform games that sell just as well on their more expensive less attach rate console.

Again, MS with their invisible lineup, DLC and timed exclusives. 2008 & 2009 is just a terrible year. Just WAIT till e3! the floodgates will open. Dozens of titles like "You're in the movies" will be announced for the first time.

Timed exclusivity means:

PC & 360 versions released at the same time. Multiplatform. PS3 version shows up later.

The only difference is that the PS3 owners don't have to hold their breath for games until a new multiplatform shows up. Theres tons of games landing that actually have dates and coverage. Its important to be seen as exclusive when none of your games have hit AAA this year, and less than the PS3 last year.

Bioshock was fine and all, but Yahztee summed it up perfectly..

I'd hate to be in the boat where the only reason you own a console is to play a version of a multiplat & buy maps that should have been included in the full release & pay to download & play free peer to peer. And the only hopes you have of seeing anything close to crysis on your console is an old multiplatform 2005 tech demo from 1994 running on a PC.

[TOSgamer]

@1.3 Sony's no Saint but compared to the devil known as Microsoft? I definitely see them as the lesser of two evils.

[eagle21]

AIAS 2007 GOTY: COD4
Damn near every site including gamespot, 2007 GOTY: Super Mario Galaxy

anyway, PS3 will get Bioshock 2.

[JokesOnYou]

it was already confirmed that it will be released on both platforms simultaneously?

-I don't understand why ps3 gamers think they have a right to any particular 3rd party title on their console? If micro thinks buying any exclusive rights to any particular game is in their best interest then thats what they should do, if that hurts the feelings of the competition owners then so be it, they owe ps3 owners nothing, their only responsibilty is to provide exclusive content for current 360 owners and potential 360 owners. Saying micro should "make their own games" is naive at best since both companies have brought talent/games from studios sources...sony chooses to buy or own more studio's, while micro chooses to buy specific games and content from independent studios, the end result= make games for your platform....again there are obvious pro's and con's of both strategies.

I doubt very seriously that this game will be either time or truly exclusive....its such a great game and will will sell really well for both, its just funny how some of you think.

JOY

[Beast_Master]

All I know is MS needs to do something about their holiday lineup. I hope it is like the Rock band exclusive, where it is like 2 weeks early on 360. But either way I will have my hands full for a long time just with the Spring and Summer releases, not really thinking about the fall.

[Unicron]

JokesonYou... indeed it's a bad mentality, but one I've seen perpetrated by BOTH sides of the "fanboy wars." How many times have you seen the MGS4 argument brought up? I've seen people argue, whine, and complain about THAT situation over and over... not for the good of the franchise, but because it "should" be on the 360 because either a) its all they own b)"ps3 sucks" or c) that'll teach PSfanboys. The sense of false entitlement this generation is horrid, and one every fanboy is guilty of regardless of affiliation.

I'm not going to argue Bioshock 2, because until its got screenshots or on store shelves, I'm always wary. Odd business this is. All I know is, ignoring 21 - 22 million customers for ANY amount of time is foolish for a third party team to do. Don't we want MORE gamers enjoying games?

[voodoo341]

shame the author didn't do his homework. 2K Games HAVE confirmed Bioshock 2 for the PS3 already. There is no denial.

http://www.computerandvideo...

[Viper7]

The game was pretty much annouched on Ps3 with the trailer on Ps3 versions bioshock. Ill say that it wont really improve the image of the company in eyes of Ps3 gamers.
Also theres already plenty of Ps3 owners out there, plenty too much to just ignore with popular IP like bioshock.

so I doubt it will happen, but we dont know untill we see the box on the shelves.

[ultrachrist]

Actually, someone from T2 explained the exclusivity for Bioshock 1 not too far back. They said that they were originally planning it multiplatform, but MS offered them money so they thought they'd make the game and be able to work everything out for PS3 later on. The way they put it in the article sounded like they basically took money to throw it into dev on the game that would really be multiplatform in the end anyways.
I don't know what you're talking about.

[Wayne Brady]

I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that Bioshock 2 will be multiplatform and released simultaneously for PS3 and 360 or very near the same date. Wayne Brady has both celebrity copies right here. Let's not be foolish fellas!

[thats_just_prime]

I cant believe that ps3 fanboys are actually stupid enough to believe that sony doesnt pay for exclusives. Hell they probably have to pay more then MS at this point. Companies know they can make game quicker and cheaper on the 360. Plus the 360 has a much larger install base and to top that off 360 gamers buy more games. Plus it a well known fact that sony invested mass amount of money in Square. At one point they owned something like 20% of square. God only knows how much they paid Konami to keep mgs4 exclsuive and that was on top of giving Konami their 1st born.

anyways back to the top I dont see why ps3 fanboy want bioshock 2 as a day one release for the ps3. After sony paid take two 100 million dollars for a port it sucked. Seriously did the ps3 fanboys forget about how awful the Bioshock 1 port to the ps3 was ? They spent an extra year working on that to think of how bad it will be with out that extra time to work on.

Bioshock one was amazing but to be honest I doubt bioshock 2 will be that great. I just dont know how take two is going to recapture the magic they had in bioshock 1

[morganfell]

http://talkplaystation.com/...

"Shuhei Yoshida says this year will be the year for big exclusive titles for the PlayStation 3. Some of them being Killzone 2, MAG, God of War 3, and the list goes on. He also says there are other exclusive titles that haven’t even been announced yet."

[cayal]

"Seriously did the ps3 fanboys forget about how awful the Bioshock 1 port to the ps3 was ?"

Yes, Bioshock was SO horrible on PS3 it 'only' got a 94 on metacritic.

What a dreadful port that was.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Blademask: Sony says lots of things that aren't true. I think I am wasting my time here because it seems you people take whatever Sony tells you as gospel.

There was little incentive to release the game on the PS3 and if you look at the sales of the title they weren't unfounded. Sony and the PS3 was late to the Bioshock party and there was very little there for 2K to want to spend the time to recode the game for the PS3. Again, like I said before you think the developers have some "OMG it's Sony we have to do it" mentality?? Sony doesn't have the influence it once had and the PS3 is costly to develope for. In all the sales of Bioshock the PS3 made very little in that and I think Sony paid some $$$ so they would have the game on their platform.

Of course I can't prove any of it just like any of you cannot prove that MS paid for most of the things they are accused of.

Dillusional are the people thinking that any of these companies are looking out for YOUR best interest or that they do things for free because they like Sony.

It's all about the $$$$$ first.

Personally, I suspect something is up because if it was day and date on all systems they would of announced at least the 360/PS3/PC platforms.

[morganfell]

It also has to be weighed out that MS themselves are in the middle of a fire sale. They chopped down ACES, they dumped Ensemble to take a tax loss, Vista tanked and now there are heavy questions over Office, the French Military dropped MS with other countries starting to eye Ubuntu, it looks like the Elite is getting the axe, etc etc etc. It is only going to get worse for MS and they have to protect their core business. Guess what? It isn't games.

MS is not going to be shelling out another 50 million or any such figure with the 360 sales showing the earmarks that the price cut boom is dying and the DLC for GTAIV not even being close to what they had hoped both in sales and in impact of GTA sales. When you have a larger number of consoles on the market (supposedly) and promises of DLC and the PS3 keeps pace with your sales then you have some explaining to do. What was it? Did MS lie about the actual number of consoles out there by counting refurbs as sales or did they just make a poor marketing decision?

Either way, Sony is the company showing gathering strength and if anything they are more likely to pull the rug out from under MS rather than the other way around. Sony is a lot deeper in bed with Take 2 than MS can afford.

[thats_just_prime]

Doesnt matter what it scored on the ps3 the game looked like crap when compared to the 360

http://www.gameplayer.com.a...

http://www.2kgames.com/cult...

[Blademask]

I'm going to side with sony in this instance. Because they have yet to Secure any DLC for a multiplatform version of a game. Oh you know like spending 50 million dollars for DLC.... or Tombraider.. or any other DLC.

Don't try to spin this into believing what anyone says. MS has paid for DLC for MULTIPLATS. Sony hasn't. They are too busy pushing out AAA games instead that have realease dates.

Keep trying to make everyone think that your lame response has anything to do with MS buying DLC, and Sony making AAA games. Sony never had to rely on multiplats for success, only MS. Thats why MS advertises all multiplatforms as exclusives.

[Aquanox]

Nobody denies the PS3 market is very attractive for any developer. However, a well negotiated deal can make an exclusive more profitable than a multiplatform. Just check the GTA IV 2 episodes of exclusive downloadable content for a good example.

Bioshock 2 being exclusive on any platform would boost its lineup to almost unmatchable levels considering both Microsoft and Sony potentially have a lot of material already.

[DailyAddict]

...hasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the FIRST Bioshock 2 video shown on the PS3 version of Bioshock? There's no point in putting the video on the disk if it's not coming to the system.

So this argument is all ready dead.

[snp]

"There was little incentive to release the game on the PS3 and if you look at the sales of the title they weren't unfounded. Sony and the PS3 was late to the Bioshock party and there was very little there for 2K to want to spend the time to recode the game for the PS3. Again, like I said before you think the developers have some "OMG it's Sony we have to do it" mentality?? Sony doesn't have the influence it once had and the PS3 is costly to develope for. In all the sales of Bioshock the PS3 made very little in that and I think Sony paid some $$$ so they would have the game on their platform."
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What a load of tosh. I'm sorry, but there was plenty of incentive for 2K to want to 'port' (let's not forget this isn't ground up game development, but a small team adapting code) Bioshock to the PS3. One, the platform has an install base of 21 million. Two, it might be late but the game has scored and sold very well over its lifetime - sales of course are an unknown pre-release on any system (duh!), but of the delayed releases this one would have looked easily worth the risk. And three, what better way to ensure a smooth runway for a sequel to the game (where the real money is re:ps3 version) than making sure those tens of millions of customers you're lining up first have access to the original to dilute any potential historical bad blood out of the transaction.

The logic of having to 'pay' to get this sort of a title 'onto' their system just doesn't add up. It's not impossible, but the incentive is as big or bigger through natural market forces - just as, to throw you a bone, would be the incentive for Konami to port MGS4 onto the Xbox360 if/when they can.

The only logic behind 'not' wanting to tap into one or the other 20+million part of a fragmented market (or to delay titles etc) is either technical limitations, fear of fan backlash if it's traditionally tied to one particular system (which is a minimal thing, really), or because you're being funded to keep it exclusive/timed exclusive.

There doesn't need any 'incentive' to put things on systems, only to keep them off. You seem to have that bit jumbled in your head.

[Lifendz]

I really enjoyed the first one and can't wait to check this one out. I was hoping for a true sequel but a prequel allowing you to play as a citizen of rapture prior to the fall of the city would be cool too.

[likedamaster]

"I'm not going to argue Bioshock 2, because until its got screenshots or on store shelves, I'm always wary. Odd business this is. All I know is, ignoring 21 - 22 million customers for ANY amount of time is foolish for a third party team to do. Don't we want MORE gamers enjoying games?"

It goes both ways. Except 360 owners don't cry about certain companies not making 360 games(Insomniac, Konami).

Hypocrisy at it finest here on N4G.

[snp]

Insomniac is a bit of an odd choice.. They're existence basically owes to Sony's assistance and funding.

Konami, fair enough, but Insomniac doesn't really make sense. It's like saying Gears of War or a Rare title or whatever - designed and funded ground up for the Xbox360 in coalition with Microsoft - aught to be on the PS3. Doesn't really have much to do with the topic - timed exclusives of originally multiplatform intended titles diverted to one platform or off another.

And can't say i agree with this revisionism regarding MSG4 and XBox360 owners. They've b-tched with the best of them. Both fanboys are as bad as each other.

[Ausbo]

during the ps2 era they did it a lot. I think the reason microsoft gets so much heat is because they do it more often and are unable to keep secrets. Sony and microsoft both do it. just because you don't see them do it doesn't mean they aren't. I can't see air but it is out there.

[morganfell]

You do not understand Insomniac because you only think about money. Insomniac appreciates loyalty. Sony backed them when no one else would.

Unlike many other game development studios, they treat their workers as partners. There is a daycare, gym, and a mini commissary on site. They offer weekly massages and they pay above industry rate. Higher ups earn less and spread the money amongst the workers.

Insomniac also likes to remove their limits and the PS3 allows them to do this.

And the idea of MS having 29 million consoles out there is a joke and everyone knows it. MS remains tight lipped about the fact that refurbs are being included in MS numbers.

And Insomniac knows the 360 is now a has been console whose best days have come and gone. They are an also ran rapidly heading for 3rd place. Price cuts can't stay ahead of faulty outdated hardware, no next gen disc medium, and zero vision.

[ia_studio]

anyway I played the first in pc and hope the second one is in pc as well

[RememberThe357]

This is barely even a rumor. So stop getting on each other about being fanboys.

For now we'll stick with what we know, and that the Bioshock 2 is multiplatform.

Theres no need to get stupid over a weak ass rumor. This is the kind of crap that brings N4G down.

[AAACE5]

Well, I told MS they can't buy love. They told me they aren't trying to buy love, they are just trying to make sure their competition has a hell of a time getting love...lol!

Anyway... Bioshock 2 will be a multiplat or a timed exclusive if anything. They already released the first one on Ps3, so it would be stupid not to make the sequel multiplat as well.

[likedamaster]

Insomniac is independant, 3rd party, with no ties to Sony and they will eventually develop for xbox in my opinion.

At the same time, if they want to make exclusives then why not but please don't cry about other developers doing the same(why ignore 21 million fanbase yada yada). That's all I'm saying. Try sucking it up when it happens xbox fans do.

[snp]

Insomniac may be an independent developer, but their status and freedoms and technological sophistication and access to resources (all the things which makes you now want them developing multi-platform) comes from their close affliation with Sony and early access on a quid pro quo basis to Sony technology (including logically, at least case by case, ground up funding.)

It's just a poor choice to bring up, period - no amount of ironing the corners makes it relevant. Like i said, it's akin to bringing up a Bungie, or a game funded/published by Microsoft (Gears of War, Fable etc) and saying 'PS3 owners don't complain about these guys, what's with you?!' Insomniac's games, Microsoft's funded ground up or shared technology games etc. have nothing to do with the ethics or non-ethics of paying people to withhold/delay ground up multiplaform developed titles (well into development) off of other platforms.

The attempt at equivalency makes no sense. Whether Insomniac decides at some point they want to develop something ground up to be multiplatform, presumably without the benefits that would come from taking a proposal direct to Sony/sharing more closely on tech etc - or whether a company with similar affiliations to Microsoft - has pretty much nothing to do with the costs of fried eggs in Africa.

The fact that you'd contort the two to be equivalents pretty much makes you a fanboy, i'm afraid - if your pesky myopic taunting didn't already confirm it.

[Andronix]

@Gwave

Hi Gwave. Amongst my reading list I've read a lot of the Official PlayStation Magazine UK, it was the source of much of the 'Bioshock on PS3' stories. Originally Bioshock was labelled as a multiplatform game then Xbox exclusive. Ken Levine then said a lot of things to back this up. However, when Bioshock was officially announced as being released for the PS3 last year, there was an article by the OPM-UK editorial team that said there was some meat to this story(I will try and source it)...

Please note, this is not me but the OPM team who said this:- what OPM UK said was that they had months before at a trade show been told by Take Two that Bioshock was definitely coming to PS3. Then Microsoft paid for a timed-exclusive. The deal was that Microsoft would cover all promotion and ads for the game in return Take Two must never even hint at a PS3 version else the deal would be void and MS would seek the return of advertising costs. When OPM UK kept printing hints, they were sent a legal letter from Bioshock to stop printing 'unfounded' information. Time later showed it was because their news could jeopardise the deal they had with Microsoft.

The original Bioshock box had the 'exclusive on Xbox 360' label at the top. Think about it. How could Microsoft conceivably put that label on if there wasnt some deal in place?! Either way. It's a great game on 360 and PS3 and I cant wait for the sequel!

[kwicksandz]

During the ps1 days sony would buy any exclusive they could get their hands on.Now MS starts doing it and they are a big evil corporation lol. Dont hate on MS for doing what works.

[MicroSony4Life]

But I think big daddy are the most bad ass creatures / things out there and should be used in every game.

Can you imagine playing kill zone and you are taken cover behind a wall and all of a sudden a big daddy taps you on your shoulder.
Can you imagine if you are underground with your buddy's in Gears of war 2 and you reach a dead end, only to turn back around and see a Berserker and a Big daddy waiting on you you, might as well chainsaw your self.

The only thing more BAD A$$ that a BIG DADDY is KRATOS, Kratos is so bad that he has a big daddy as a pet.

And the only person more bad a$$ thatn Kratos is Chuck Norris Duh. Chuck Norris is so bad A$$ that he wanted the control aiming in killzone 2 to be changed and they did it.

[u got owned]

@ morganfell

Question where you are getting all this info from? Do you work at insomniac or MS? you talk like your opinions are facts.

On topic,

This game will be multi from day one.

[No Way]

"GEC, uh no. Sony declared they will never pay for exclusive content or rights from multiplatform games."

Riiiiiiiiight.. I bet you believe Everything that Sony says, huh?

@morganfell - You're so full of it.. Lol.

[andron]

I don't think Take Two can afford to go the exclusive route with this game. Take Two needs the money, and it just doesn't make financial sense to not release Bioshock 2 as a multiplatform.

That's also the reason why the GTA IV DLC also probably is timed exclusive and will come to PS3. Just look at the Bioshock, it was the worst kept secret that it would eventually come to PS3...

[jkhan]

I doubt gta iv dlc will be coming to ps3 considering msft paid so heavily for it, besides I doubt ps3 owners will buy a 1-2year old gAme's dlc when they are already packed with exclusives

[no-spin]

why lock out possible buyers?
and what is it with MS and that time exclusive crap, make exclusive titles on your own and stop ruining others fun. Expected from MS, since they have no class nor creativity

[Arnon]

"take two is making good on the PS3"

They sold like 200,000 copies of BioShock on the PS3. How is that good? =/

[Major_Tom]

There were many games being released at the same time. It didn't do amazing on the Xbox either.

[Game13a13y]

huh,.... huh.....
yeah.... we know you are rich, and if you are so rich, why do you still want to tap into the video game industry? to make more money or just to make a point?

sincerely,

serious gamer

[thats_just_prime]

I dont get the logic there if T2 needs more money. It seems to me that it be better for them to take what ever money they can get for making it timed exclusive. It might sell a few less copies on the ps3 if it take 6 months to a year to come out but the money for making it timed exclusive would more then cover that.

[Lifendz]

Seriously, you're going to use a game that was released a year or so after it's release on 360 as a barometer of Take Two's success on PS3 and NOT the fact that sales for GTA4 sold "50/50" on both 360 and PS3 DESPITE PS3 having a smaller install base and a heavier price tag? Umm....wow.

Why not say Capcom bombed on PS3 with Lost Planet regardless of the fact that sales for SF4 are actually leading on PS3. Spinning is an art form for some.

[andron]

That is only proving my point. Bioshock sold worse on PS3 because it came out long after. Many had played it already and there were other newer games coming out.

Now it's a different story. The PS3 user base is much larger and I don't think MS can offer enough to make exclusivity a better option...

[no-spin]

bioshock came out when PS3 owners were a rarity to find, but now the PS3 has a solid base and owners are buying games, enough for many major developers to report more gaining on PS3 vs 360. Leaving the PS3 out of launch date would be pretty dumb.

[RememberThe357]

is that they were charging full price for a game that was a year old. they should have known better. Gamers move on quickly and the only way to pull them back is with price.

[jkhan]

It will be funny if it's a 360 exclusive considering it was announced on ps3 first:p

[hunter21]

not really it will be sucks, see what happen to FF13... typical MS.

[Max Power]

i was just thinking that, the teaser was only on the ps3 version. why would it be exclusive when they broke the news of the sequel on the ps3 bioshock.

[manwich25]

Way to go M$. Money talks and Bullsh^t walks.

[Perjoss]

All is fair in love and war.

MS is out to make (gasp!) money, so is Sony and pretty much any other company that sells stuff. You don't get nothing for free, MS knows this and that's why they pay up, they need to do this because they started 1 whole console generation behind Sony and needed to catch up, they have done very well. They came from thin air (as far as console gaming goes) and they have given Sony a good run.

Sony fans might hate MS, but they are one of the best things to happen to gaming, if nothing else but to give Sony some competition and make them try harder, in the end the gamers come out on top. Competition is always good. Otherwise you get 1 company selling its console for super expensive and not even trying to make it any better.

[Makidian]

Microsoft cannot afford to pay for timed exclusive rights, and T2 can't afford to give up the multiplatform money they will get from having it on both systems. Frivolous discussion at this point

[FPShooter]

why would they want to miss out on millions of PS3 consumers.

[Arnon]

It's possible. Bioshock did not sell millions on the PS3 rofl. In fact, it bombed in terms of sales I believe.

[Major_Tom]

Why do you think people are gonna listen to your opinion, especially since you're clearly an Xbox 360 fanboy (takes a second to look at your comment history). If anything, I'm just gonna help take your bubbles.

There was a Bioshock 2 trailer in the end of Bioshock, ON the PS3.

[indysurfn]

It was well over a year old when they finished porting it to the ps3. So it did not even sale a million copies. One the xbox360 it sold over 3 million. You cant tell how much a company can afford until you know how much profit they are passing up AND how much Microsoft is paying them for a exclusive. You don't know either! You can make a guess on how much they are passing up. way less than 500,000 copies where sold on PS3. They company knows how much they are losing and gaining there is a REASON they are payed the amount that they except.

[Arnon]

1. It was not an opinion. It was a fact. BioShock did not even reach 1 million copies. In fact, it did not even reach 500,000.

2. The only console I have been playing recently IS my PS3. In fact, I bet I've accomplished more on my PS3 than you have, rofl.

3. You have broken the rules of the gaming zone. For that, I will report your comment and I will take your bubbles.

[Major_Tom]

Arnon, why did you even bother and try to deny it? Anyone can read your comment history.

Just because you own two systems doesn't mean you're exempt from your own stereotypes.

[Arnon]

That would make you a hypocrite, as anyone can read YOUR comments, rofl.

Oh, it's nice that you're going through my comments to hit a disagree on them. It's obvious that you can not back up a single thing.

Oh, but look! I seem to have been right on the 2 things that we were arguing about. And yet, you try to change it.

Fail.

[Johnny Rotten]

By the time this game comes out the PS3 will easily have over 23 million potential customers, no 3rd party developer from this day on is going to ignore that many sales (unless your Valve of course lol).

Being a timed exclusive is a good possibility, maybe they'll spread it out in different business quarters, but like the article says late launching games don't sell too well.

edit below: I suck at numbers I'm unsure of but your probably right but hey I did say easily! :)

[Avenged Sevenfold]

So sony will only sell 2 millions PS3s until November? I think the PS3 will be at 27-28mil worldwide by then. You should write something like "the ps3 will easily have over 26mil customers." Makes more sense.

[indysurfn]

According to NPD Sony has 19.7 million worldwide. Sony added 2 million to that number AFTER not saying they where wrong. So even if Sony is not lying (LOL, anyway) Last year during these months Sony sold between 88,000 and 250,000 a month during the off season. Which is what we are in now. That is a generous number! It must be taking into consideration a price drop. Come on Sony drop that price $100! Why would you think Sony is from now until September average more than they did during Christmas season?

[DeathMetal]

they have 20 million steam account on the pc, not their fault the Ps3 has a bad setup for programmers, and don't say well killzone 2, that took 4 years to make and it is average at best, ps3 fanboys want to suck it because it is the only shooter they have, my pc call of duty looks better than that game fully maxed out. Get it through your heads sony fans your console is not that good, every mulit plat game runs better on the 360, and i am a pc gamer who could care less because my $hit always looks and plays the best

[Hallucinate]

what does valve have to do with anything?
and btw 2007 called they want their argument back

[TheColbertinator]

I think bioshock 2 will be exclusive to 360 and PC.After all,my bioshock copy of the game says "Only on 360 and PC".

:)

[DavidMacDougall]

Yeah my ps3 version disagrees

:)

[Sonyfanclubpresident]

your inferior Sonytard version hehe.

[dustgavin]

Sonytard is about as funny as your desperation to bash a multi-platform title.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Better shadows, better textures, better draw-distance, better frame-rate, more levels, and faster loading times...

...definitely inferior.

???

[TheColbertinator]

Sonyfan(Lawman108) and Dustgavin have no sense of humor

:(

[SonySoldierEternaL]

Steve, are you bi-polar?

one day you're a bot, the other day a droid

pick one already

[morganfell]

This story is unsubstantiated crap. I was not aware that Spong owned N4G. We are seeing more and more of these articles. It looks like 360 owners are growing ever more desperate. I need to get some popcorn because in a few months they are going to be hurling themselves from the roofs of buildings. I cannot wait to see the blow to pavement analysis. Maybe they will institute betting on first bounce distances or at least award medals.

[hippo24]

@LeonSKennedy4Life

I hope you were talking about the PC version...

[talltony]

might only be a timed exclusive to 360, but this is the exact reason why I also own a 360. This is not an issue for me but i expect this could be an issue for some. Microsoft should just put that money to their own exclusive titles instead of trying to buy multiplatform titles.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I'm talking about the PS3 version.

I have the PC version too.

Exactly one day after Bioshock was released for the PS3, 2K had a patch update available for Bioshock on the PS3. It improved the graphics two-fold!

Really...try it out. It looks better than the 360 or PC version! I promise! It's smoother too!

[Obama]

Is sonyfanclubpresident lawman108? I remember that racist pos. Anyways, I doubt that this will be a timed exclusive for the 360 but you never know since MS likes to waste money on useless things like this.

[shawnsl65]

if anyone didn't catch it, i'm pretty sure Steven C was being sarcastic.
ps: i only came here because they're having a war in the "gamer's zone"

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

"Microsoft finalizing Gran Turismo 5 exclusive deal" ;-D

I'm sure Micro$luts are up to something tho :-/ They always spoil gaming for other Console owners!!! :-/
(Not that i want anything on the xBox 360 anyway!!!)

[morganfell]

The mods apparently removed a lot of the reports from this story. It originally had a ton of reports and now it's down to less than 20.

[cmacdonald]

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Counter_ACT]

I doubt it, they announced the game at the end of the PS3 version. They wouldn't be like "lol its coming but you've got to wait for everyone else".

[Avenged Sevenfold]

I doubt Take2 is going to ignore 20+million people. Making it a timed exclusive will greatly hurt the sales unless Microsh*t is willing to cough up 20million for 6 months of exclusivity. I doubt they can afford that. It won't do anything whatsoever.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

If this is true, Microsoft can go blow themselves.

[butbutbuttehcell]

Blow themselves? That's odd. If it's true doesn't it mean more sales for them? And that's a bad thing for wanting more sales? If anything it'll please people with a 360. Don't get angry at Microsoft for wanting to make money.

[ps92117]

giant enemy crab, lol if sony is willing to pay for bioshock what is keeping them from doing so with ff.

[green]

From the comments above, i can see that fanboys are so gullible.So this baseless speculation is from a blog stating that Microsoft is paying for exclusivity because take two states TBC next to the title.Didn't the trailer debut on PSN and shortly after that Take-two announce it as multiplatform?

[cmrbe]

the difference this time is.

1. Everyone knows for sure that it will eventually come out on the PS3 unlike the first Bioshock on PS3 which was a rumour most of the time. In other words it will not be as effective for MS.

2. The PS3 game selection for the PS3 will be alot stronger compare to when the first Bioshock came out.

Will TakeTwo and MS really see the benefit of getting a time exclusive deal again this time around?.

I doubt they will. It's not really worth it for both of them. MS should know by now that time exclusives and exclusive DLC really don't matter much in terms of this console war.

[II Necroplasm II]

But what about people that own both systems? If Bioshock 2 is timed exclusive to the Xbox 360.. then which version you think most PS3/360 owners will get?

Timed exclusivity means more copies sold for big games.

[cmrbe]

yes it might sell more games on the x360 but its still more or less ineffectual. Look at GTA4 DLC and yet we already got reports from T2 that GTA4 sold evenly on both consoles even with the 8 million lead MS is boasting about.

I think Multi console owners, especially x360 and PS3 are a small miniority. I doubt more than 2 million of the 20 million PS3 owners also own a x360. Then offcouse you must take into consideration the fact that its very easy to pirate games on the x360.

As a gamer. Would you be more enthuastic about time exclusives as well extension of games or would you be more interested in whole exciting exclusive games?. I think most say the latter. Again. In terms of the overally console war meaning both HW and SW sales these time exclusives and DLC deals wont have much of overall effect.

[Andras84]

So we PS3 owners get the better version again. There are plenty of other games to play till BioShock 2 arrives.

Other than that, I wasn't amazed by the first one at all. Just not my cup of tea. That is "my OWN opinion" about the game.

[pippoppow]

Any game that is likely or confirmed to be released at a later date is fine by many. Most will just wait for the version to appear on their favored console and not rush out and buy a system just to play it sooner than at a later date. Besides PS3 fans who have a decent gaming PC will be able to play it anyways. No biggie.

[cmrbe]

No. I will be playing the PS3 version on superior hardware.

[Sonyfanclubpresident]

let's us not bicker about not receiving Bioshock 2 on our PS3s!

(sniffle sniffle whimper).

Steven Colbert.............I have a great sense of humor
(as I laugh with my high oriental voice) "HAW HAW HAW HAW"!!!

[Game13a13y]

hm.... me guess....
you are a fakeboy?

[NegativeCreep427]

LOL...you seriously need a good punch to the back of the head to straighten yourself out.

[krouse93]

Yeah what the hell you a racist too whats wrong with people from asia?

[MegaMohsi]

it's funny that people are arguing between the PS3 and 360 versions when we all know the PC version will be the best and the version to get(if you can run it)

[hippo24]

To you pointless morons above me arguing about "the most powerful/superior game" Ill help you by throwing some credence and reference to your asinine bickering.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

@MegaMohsi

Amen brother....opps I've become what I hate.

[likedamaster]

I hate when people ignorantly say the PC version is the best. Wrong! I had both PC and 360 version day 1.

Besides the higher res on PC, there was nothing else "better" on the pc version(I was surprised too). If any version won it was the 360 due to replay value from achievements.

[Obama]

k colbert is right, that sonyfanclub president is definitely lawman. Both racist pos who seem to have a fixated hate towards asians.

[Sonyfanclubpresident]

I just hate you pathetic Sony cum guzzlers who live in constant denial that Sony hasn't lost their mojo and are currently and permanently residing in third place.
LOL,I love watching it burn you pissy little girlies off!

You guys attack 360 enthusiast relentlessly (a sign that you are intimidated and jealous)
and play non stop dirty pool with their bubbles and disagrees......so step off lol.

This site is effed up because there's so many of you d1cks in here.

tsk tsk shame.

I aint Lawman either,regardless what you Sony f@gs think.

PS

Here's a bronze medal for you bums to place over your Blu Ray grills......enjoy.

[supremacy]

say this game ends up being a time exclusive, that simply means one croud would have this game for a period of time for themselves big deal.

look as far as im concerned games like COD modern warfare 2, Uncharted 2, and possibly God of war 3 among other high profile games such as halo, and a few unnauncced triple A games may be coming during this period of time for me to even worry or let alone care about this ONE game.

lol seriously do you think im going cry because of this desperate decision? while knowing i got better options in both CODmw2 and GOW3?

this is also why i couldn't see myself buying some Gta4 DLC over some full fledge triple A games and for the most part exclusive at that, so to me it wouldn't make sense at all to worry a timed or some DLC for a year old game i stopped playing months ago.

so far im hooked on killzone 2 and loving mlb 09, whats next for me? and believe i got patience ...

infamous , wardevil, heavy rain, the agency, uncharted 2, god of war 3, gt5, twisted metal ps3, team ico project , syphon filter ps3, are what im looking for not some timed exclusive or like i said before DLC for outdated games.

[zaldare]

"There is only one likely reason why Take-Two has yet to reveal the platforms and that is because the publisher is probably in negotiations with Microsoft on securing the game as a timed exclusive."

-.-

[rmedtx888]

Instead of paying companies to earn exclusives; they should focus on taking care of their own studios.

[HarukoHex]

and instead of ps3 owners complaining about not getting these games MS pays for, maybe they should play those sony studio games, unless your saying they are not good enough and suck.

see how i can spin that on you.

[Hallucinate]

who, besides xbots say that sony games suck? and if you read through these comments..alot of people really dont care if this is a timed exclusive

[aaronisbla]

dude your "spin" sucked and doesn't negate the point that rmed and others have made, i wish MS would realize that its gonna take more than exclusive dlc and timed exclusives to make a buyer on the fence choose their game console. Seriously, i wasn't expecting to see GTA4 go neck and neck on both consoles like it did, especially after those commercials for the game that even advertised the dlc.

Although i'm sure the makers of GTA4 are most likely thankful for the $50 million MS paid for it, I'm sure they are thinking about how much money they could have been making had it been possible to have the dlc on both systems. Now, even if they were to release it for the ps3 somehow ( which probably won't happen ) the sales of it wouldn't be as good had it released at the same time.

Same thing can happen with Bioshock 2, i'm pretty sure ps3 owners are getting fed up with playing second fiddle when it comes to games coming out later for them, and it could affect sales if it doesn't hit systems at the same time.

[Expy]

Get Bioshock 2 exclusive, and all Take Two has to do is renamed it for PS3. lol

[poeo]

wasnt there a Bioshock 2 teaser at the end of the PS3 version of Bioshock..?

[KYU2130]

they want the PS3 exclusives. They want this and that. They always want something. always complaining about Sony paying out the rear for stuff, when its the big "M" actually trying to corner the market all for them selves thinking that a standard dvd is gonna hold the program size this generation.

"""Thats why they gotta have a new console with a multi-disc player on the horizon"""

[Kamikaze135]

When Bioshock 2 was announced, it was announced for the PS3 first. If anything, Sony is getting it first.

[hippo24]

HOW??

How would something like that happen?
It came out for 360 and PC first, made more money on the PC and 360 , the PS3 version was released almost a full year later then the PC and 360, its easier to develop for Xbox and PC and the, and it scored higher on the PC and Xbox.
How in gods glorious name, does it make sense for the PS3 to get it before the PC and 360?

Its probably going to be a timed exclusive, and unless something drastic happens, That's where my opinion stays.

[aaronisbla]

you are aware that when they put it on the ps3, a whole year later mind you, that other games had come out for the ps3, it was pretty hectic trying to fit in bioshock in that time frame.

So many great games hit the system at the time, plus bioshock costing full retail didn't help at all. You can't sit there and blame sony for the reason it didn't sell well enough. Guaranteed when this game drops, it will sell like hotcakes for both systems.

Also, what makes you think it will be timed exclusive this time? the sequel was announced on the ps3, as it has been stated plenty of times before. 2k games would be foolish to ignore such numbers ( of systems sold ) for either console

[felidae]

the Bioshock (1) boxart says "XBox 360 and PC only"

[GarandShooter]

on the PS3 version?

[Nelson M]

Wow
I'm shaking in my Boots
Trembling with Fear
Too scared to go out at Night
Please Microsuck Don't do it

[skip2mylou]

is anyone else sick and tired of this BS? cause i know i am. if u want me to believe this thing then show me some cold hard proof that 2k is making this exclusive cause everyone knows that 2k made a teaser for Bioshock2 on the PS3

[Rhezin]

3rd party studios are ALL going multiplatform these days.

[hippo24]

Well considering we love rumors here at N4G, I expect this to hit into the thousands temp and into hundreds of comments.

Its not confirmed yet to be exclusive, they have pretty much said its timed...put your pants back on fanboys, there's nothing to gawk at here.

[GarandShooter]

Got a link for that timed exclusive thing? From Take-Two?

These bloggers are little more than fanboys speculating.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

just make your own games MS.
why do i have to wait for the PS3 version

[HarukoHex]

AHHH sony just make your own bioshock,

T_T see how stupid that sounds.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

i dont get it.
i was referring to how MS HAS to have something special in every multiplat game. (DLC or timed) so much so that theyre beggining to RELY on multiplat games because they have less than a handful of first party studios. it makes me mad that theyre focusing on nabbing timed exclusivity (rockband, lost planet, bioshock) instead of pushing theyre own titles while the rest of have to wait.

goes back to "just make your own games MS"

[mcgrawgamer]

any other variation of the like. This is nothing but speculation and flamebait. Obviously the author of the article did not not his due diligence or any actual research otherwise he would have known that bioshock was actually being created for the ps3 and 360 simultaneously and complications with the ps3 architecture is what caused them to delay the games ps3 release.

[DNAgent]

The game won't be timed exclusive but Microsoft will pay for some exclusive half-assed DLC. Afterall, the trailer for the 2nd Bioshock was unlocked by playing the first Bioshock on PS3. The trailer was also seen on PS3 before it got posted everywhere else.

[bigjclassic]

I didnt like Bioshock 1.

[wombatwolf]

Take-Two stated that it was supposed to be multi-platform from the start, but it just never happened that way.

[HarukoHex]

just like capcom said monster hunter 3 was going to the ps3 and 360, yet ended up on the wii.

[TheMART]

Lost Planet 2 and Bioshock 2 (timed) exclusive for 360 at least in 2009?

Would make a great Christmas for sure combined with Alan Wake.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

We all want Alan Wake.

Don't get your hopes up though.

[blink3020]

Bioshock was one of the best games I've ever played and if it is a timed exclusive, I'll wait for the ps3 version but I won't be happy about it. F*** MS if they feel like wasting more money paying for a timed release. Kill Bill!

[dar36]

it looks like ms could be locking up some exclude dlc for the 360.

[maverick1191]

wait alan wake is a game i thought it was a myth

[hippo24]

No its very real...unlike the myth that sarcasm can be conveyed on the internet.

[divideby0]

MS needs this game way, way more than Sony does.

If its a TE, I will see what other games are comming out and than decide which console to buy it for

[free2game365]

A PC/360 games isn't really exclusive, it's coming out on the PC, that's all I care about.

[pshizle]

Microsoft Windows

[XLiveGamer]

That mean that Resistance on PSP its not anymore an exclusive to PS3 now right?

[aldesko]

"Microsoft Windows"

Microsoft isn't a platform. If I have a PC and PS3, I can play "exclusives" like Halo without needing a 360... so it's not exactly exclusive to 360 is it?

"That mean that Resistance on PSP its not anymore an exclusive to PS3 now right?"

You know the Resistance on PSP (retribution) is a different game than the one on PS3(fall of man, resistance 2), right?

dummies.

[Valdass]

gamer.blorge.com ?

[supremacy]

@HaruKoHex?

listen we do play sony's games and so do millions all the ttime, heck just got off playing killzone, tomorrow when i get back ill be playing mlb 09 the show. i mean i dont know a single person who doesn't know what grandturismo is

also why doesn't sony make their own bioshock? lol you kidding right? sony doesn't need to pull a thq to survive with gta clones like saints road, heck instead doing that you know dante inferno to my god of war, they invest in newer ventures, like little big planet? the eye of judgment? echocrhome? heavy rain, and on and on...

look if sony were to ever be deeply impressed to the point of no return, than sony would have simply try and comsume them like they did GG and many others in past time.

unlike ms sony hasnt sold or let loose of any of its studios, and this is despite ms having deeper pockets if you can read between the lines, than youll know ms doesn't care about the gaming industry all they want is to stop sony from stumping their beloved pc revenues, selling off your studios while having more and resources shows their commitment to you guys. they cant even cut you guys a break, even content that are free on other platforms you are forced to pay for.

ms to me is no different than say EA?
all they seem to do is try to buy and release something out there real quick like a hurry up offense not ever knowing if it ever will hit the target or throw an interception.

all for a quick buck, they however know how to spam/market well so their games tend to sell, atleast here in the states that is.

by the way most of my games are sony exclusives, and i enjoy them very well. the only reason why many here poke at ms for these practices is because some of them feel ms has to prove itself out side of halo and 3rd party games.

what will happen the day people get tire of halo and companies start rejecting their checks left and right due to a suden economy rebound, than what?

you see where im going with this? sony and ninty don't really have to wonder about this, because they spend only on their own.

to be honest i really dont give a sht what ms does from here on out, really it isnt going kill me however im starting to pitty their recent tactics but thats just me so dont go taking sht personal.

[yojoe26]

We all know that the PS3 has a plethora of great games coming out this year. So here is my suggestion: Go buy Sony's first party lineup titles first and support their efforts to provide incredible experiences that no other platform can match. Then worry about third party titles. That's exactly what I plan to do in most circumstances. Every now and again a really great third party title comes out that I want (and will get eventually), but for now I am still trying to catch up on Sony's first party titles. I still want to pick up Motorstorm 2, and a couple of the other Sony exclusives. I got most of them though. :)

[Hallucinate]

while your picking up motorstorm pick up valkryia chronicals

[grantps3]

theres a lot of "disagrees" and "agrees" in this comment section.

[Bladestar]

It will be very smart on microsoft part to pay for that... and for the 1st one to be released on the PS3... that way... PS3 owners get to play the first and hang to dry with part 2... or buy an xbox 360 of course.

The 1st flopped in terms of sales on the PS3... and since Sony does not pay for exclusive content and Microsoft does. Developer better put that in the equation... if microsoft is willing to pay for exclusivity and the game will be a success no matter what.. based on how well the 1st did...

then why risk it? Why risk the relationship and free massive advertising developers get when games are exclusive on the xbox 360? over a possible flop if brought to the PS3?

Every exclusive xbox 360 get handhold by Microsoft in terms of resources (testers, developers, etc).. and when the game comes out... microsoft ensure the game gets lots of publicity... giving the game the best chance it can to succeed.

On the PS3... Sony sucks when it comes to advertising...

[Hallucinate]

belive it or not..but there was already great games on the ps3 by the time bioshock was release and thats why it sold horrible and take 2 knows that. that said i wouldnt be surprised if it were timed or exclusive dlc

[rbrtchng]

The only reason why this idiot is saying 360 exclusive rumor is because no platform is announced?

Talk about desperate xbot lol.

[XLiveGamer]

Bioshock developer decided to jump on PS3 wagon because he want to support PS3 gamers? Lol... its all about money you blind sheeps. Knowing that this year both brands are going to end up with more than 38 millions consoles out there both side and that mean for them a lot of clients with CA$H! Now what? We can say now that Sony paid them a few bucks to make sure he also share some love with Sony right? Lol blind sheeps! This is why i hate Brand fanboynism. Its not that microsoft or sony loves you! Its because you have money in your pockets and they want them in their hands.

So for a moment just imaging that you are a developer and you know that you are here to make money. What will you do? Will you be a fan of one brand only now?

Lol sheeps

@ yojoe26 - #30
"We all know that the PS3 has a plethora of great games coming out this year. So here is my suggestion: Go buy Sony's first party lineup titles first and support their efforts to provide incredible experiences that no other platform can match. Then worry about third party titles. That's exactly what I plan to do in most circumstances"

LOL !

We are building a religion,
We are building it bigger
We are creating more false accounts and counting them real
We are building a religion.
A PS3 edition
We are now bashing every single multiplatform games
To resist it is useless,
It is useless to resist it
We will only buy xclusive and will ignore the others games
Our xclusive are the best even if they are not AAA
We will convince them with lies
With lies on the net
We will just bash every menace
Every menace to our exclusives

[Hallucinate]

i dont know what your trying to say..but you sound like a fanboy..thus making you a tool, or as you call it a 'sheep'
both compinies lie get over it and stop sucking on who evers d1ck your sucking on

[realill]

I do not think MS would be able to give Take Two more money, then they could profit from PS3 version.

[dboyxz]

no-spin said.....

2.9 -
bioshock came out when PS3 owners were a rarity to find, but now the PS3 has a solid base and owners are buying games, enough for many major developers to report more gaining on PS3 vs 360. Leaving the PS3 out of launch date would be pretty dumb.

I hear you. I wish someone will tell Square Enix that....

[PS360PCROCKS]

who cares? I'll play it either way :)

[XDF]

I am getting thisgame on X360 anyways so I really hope it comes out on both consoles so PS3 only owners can enjoy the game.

But if it is timed exclusive to the X360, then add another blow to the year of the PS3.

Uncharted 2, GOW3?, GT5?, are the must haves for me on PS3.

COD MW2, Halo ODST, Alan Wake?, Splinter Cell Conviction?, and Bioshock 2 are my must haves for the X360.

[aldesko]

CoD and Bioshock will be multiplat, Alan Wake and Splinter Cell won't be out this year.

MS has a poor lineup for 09.

[XDF]

Does GOW3 or GT5 or Uncharted 2 have a firm released date yet? I rest my case.

[Hallucinate]

uncharted 2 does, fall 2009

[Mitch_Cumstein]

I really am hoping that MS gets at least some sort of timed exclusivity out of this just for the sake of the gaming being up to par with the first one.

Unlike a game like Killzone 2 or MGS4 that took years to produce BioShock 2 will be on a much tighter development schedule if it is going to make a fall release. Rushing a title, especially if it is a port on the PS3 is not going to end well as many previous multiplatform games demonstrate.

If it is a simultaneous release then I guarantee it will either
a)be lower quality with many more bugs and glitches as compared to the first
b)Delayed like every other big game on the PS3

I know PS3 fanboys will start crying about this, but just look at 99% of the multiplatform games out there. The 360 version is superior, and it some cases like The Orange Box it is embarrassingly superior over the PS3 version.

The bottomline is the PS3 is a powerful machine just like the 360 is. However if the PS3 version is just hoping to be equal to the 360 version than it is going to need more time than the 360 version. That is simple fact.

[Hallucinate]

belive it or not ps3 the lead platform (most multiplat are using starting to use ps3 as lead platform) so by your logic the 360 version would be downgraded..defitnitly not as much as the ps3 port but yea you might lose that 1 extra pixel that some people like to fap to

[Gamed]

As long as I get to play it, I don't care

[Superduper09]

I hope Take Two will release Bioshock 2 simultaneously on both platforms. That way, both PS3 and Xbox 360 owners can enjoy the game at the same time plus late launching on another platform often causes sales to suffer.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Just look at the pic. This game ain't gonna be 360 exclusive.

[caffman]

please don't do this! Bioshock 1 was amazing. I've played it on both 360 and PS3 and it rocks on both. If it goes timed exclusive it will bomb on PS3 as droids will have their arses in their hands because it didn't come out on PS3 first!

[psycho360]

TO Microsoft: Pls get out of buying DLC or timed exclusives. GET SOME Freaking KZ2 worthy FPSes out. XBOx and 360 both are know for their action games, stop milking halo with useless strategy, or barbie tie-ups. Make Halo4, KZ2 / COD4/5/6 killer or leave it and bring new franchises to 360 platform. Sony seems to be now getting in the game and coming for you fast...

[JeepGamer]

It's the Microsoft way, you don't make better products, you just throw money at your own to get ahead.

[Enigma_2099]

... hmmm, I wonder what console they own?

[XDF]

If you love the game so much just get it for the PC or buy a x360 to play it. I put my fanboys goggle aside and traded in my Wii for a PS3 and playing great games like KZ2,MLB 09 and MGS4.

I admit I am a X360 fan but I know that the PS3 has great games as well and purchased one so I can enjoy the best of both worlds.

Anyone that disagree needs to be get their head examine.

[NOOBSTATION 3]

always getting the old stuff that real gamers have played long time ago. not bad, really not bad at all.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

The trailer was on PS3 long before it was on Live, you stupid xbots... What does it tell you ?? If anything, Bioshock could be PS3 exclusive / timed exclusive, but it won't of course. It will be multiplat day 1.

Your stupidity is amazing.

[xg-ei8ht]

GiantEnemyCrab -

I agree with some of your comments etc. SONY was late to the party. But better late then never, hey!

For all the fuss over the AAA Bioshock, it's only shifted just over 2million.

Yet LBP, Not a FPS. Sold over 2million and was slated as a flop.

That's the irony.

I thought bioshock was a very good game. I enjoyed saving the sisters and got the happy ending.

But people are acting like it's sold GTA4 numbers.

And unless i'm mistaken, bioshock uses a modified version of the unreal engine 2-3. Which still to this day isn't perfect on PS3, but then again. With the slowdown's on Gears of war 2, isn't perfect either. So for a port. It doesn't look or play that bad. But could have been so much better.

[The Holy Trinity]

Slowdown on Gears? Wow...I have experienced more slowdown on Killzone than Gears. Which isnt very much.

[The Holy Trinity]

I thought Unreal 3 sucked? Heheheheh...I guess not when it comes to Bioshock.

Another funny thing...with all the graphics talk lately, I never see Bioshock brought up, which not only looks great technically, but has art direction 2nd to none...

[xg-ei8ht]

Sorry, but although there are fps dips in killzone 2, there is so much going on, i'm not surprised there are some.

Gears slows down, when hardly anything is going on.

Bioshock as said is a very good game, and the art direction is nice, gives you the feel of the year it was supposed to be.

I'd say Killzone 2 also feels that role perfectly. Hostile world.

[dkgshiz]

There were like 3 new exclusive games just announced this week for the ps3. So the bots can keep Bioshock 2 for all I care. The first one was just a rental.

[rayjelic]

I agree completely I played the 1st one on MSFT 360 and didn't care for it at all when I got Sony...

Kudos to MFST, I hope they get it and waste their money on that crap.

[rTR-Pioneer]

yet another useless article. i knew it would be pointless when i saw the question mark at the end of the title.

[ForROME]

This isnt about fair, its war, competition,

If MS buys right, then so be it, SONY should counter but they dont.

Not MS fault SONY has lost the edge to be competitive both in money and creativity.

SONY has great internal studios MS doesnt, so they buy their talent, and guess What, SONY bought theirs at one time also.

[ozlacs]

It's actually pretty sad when a console can't depend on it's true exclusive titles and needs to buy out timed exclusives for games that will come to the Ps3 anyway...I mean out of the two systems one has Gears(Epic games makes games on the PS3 too) and Halo, while the other is going to have a S***load of games coming out in the near future that will only appear on that system...Uncharted,GOD of War 3,Ratchet,Heavy Rain and Infamous...What does Microsoft give it's loyal fanboys...another Halo title"YAYYY!"..oh btw it doesnt have the only character you've ever played as in previous Halo games..in fact he will probably not be in it at all.

So you know what...I think Microsoft needs this to be a times exclusive to even stay in the race beacause soon it will be just as obsolete as the wii.

[KingKionic]

lol most ridiculous thing ive heard all day. xbox 360s are selling . software selling greatfully on there console. so whats your point???

[dj55555555]

another game ruined by dvd

[KingKionic]

ruined? guess no one can not down any game related to xbox 360 today .....

[OC Furious Dre]

Blasphemy