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Killzone 2 demo is all like "advance>cover>attack>repeat"

Yesterday the demo for the highly anticipated Killzone 2 hit the PlayStation Network and Sony fanboys everywhere were suddenly glued in front of their television screens, SIXAXIS in hand. With all the hype surrounding this title you've gotta' wonder, is this game really all it's cracked up to be?

CrippleH5588d ago

All games follow a pattern.

This is just stupid.

Genesis55588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

Oh you mean like you would have to do in a real war. Soldiers don't just run around on the battle field shooting from the hip.

itagaki5588d ago

I agree with this guy on many points. I enjoyed the game, but of what I have seen, it is over hyped. Some of the textures was terrible and the voice acting is also terrible.

Gameplay, I love the cover system! Controls aren't bad at all and I was able to pick it up rather quick, however, running and turning is a b!tch.

Other than the graphics, it evoked the same feelings as when I was playing Halo 3 meaning I wasn't completely blown away. Game is 9/10 due to the graphics.

JsonHenry5588d ago

Lol, kinda like another "great" game Gears of War? Every game has a gameplay mechanic. You either like it or you don't.

Chris3995588d ago

You want puzzles/ adventure? Play a different genre.

FPS = "Find People to Shoot."

Rinse/ repeat.

MechaGear5588d ago

I mean he already said it. "Tired gameplay formula, or maybe I’m just sick of FPS games. advance>cover>attack> repeat" Thats the problem of all shooters, no matter what clever "innovation" they try to bring in. Love it or leave it.

Sitdown5588d ago

Hahaha, some of the dead ones did. When you said shooting from the hip...it reminded me of Tropic Thunder....the scene when Downy Jr was running and threw his arm behind his back and shot his gun...hahha...great stuff.

The Dark Knight5588d ago

I havent had this much fun in a game since uncharted.

and this demo is like 10 minutes, thats a good friggen sign if you ask me

Marceles5588d ago

I bet if Killzone was on the 360, the title would be:

Killzone 2 demo is all like "innovative>bigger> better>badass>ps3 sucks"

Can any game at all on PS3 get any props for being a good game? Either it's a bad game, or it's a good game that doesn't innovate...which makes it horrible to the gaming media

TheTwelve5588d ago

Dude decides to get tired of FPS games JUST when Killzone comes out. Right. H8er.

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callahan095588d ago

This is the exact same formula that everyone praises to the heavens in the Gears of War games. What's the problem, again? Complaining about the "testosterone-induced dialogue" with all the profanity and stuff... Sounds like the PS3's Gears of War to me.

But he goes on and says:

"a lot of the textures look like straight-up garbage. There’s a part early on in the game where you and your group pass a small flowing stream and I swear to God I’ve seen better looking water in N64 games."

Hahaha. Right. This is an example of being too harsh on the pretty game. There are no hideous textures in this demo. I played it myself, and the vast majority of the textures are gorgeous and highly detailed, while some, like the metal texture on the stairs after you go up the elevator, aren't as highly detailed or as high resolution, but they're by no means hideous, and you'll only even notice that they don't have the same height of realism as the majority of the textures if you stand still in place and zoom your rifle scope in on the texture, LOOKING for inconsistencies in texture. And water that could be done on the N64? Please. That's just a ridiculous thing to say.

"You’d think that the soldier you’re controlling would be well-trained in the art of pick-up-the-f*ckin’-pace"

Yeah, this is another area where the game is just like Gears. You move kind of slowly, but, get this, THERE IS A RUN BUTTON!

"sick of games that force you to fight waves of enemy A.I. in an advance>cover>attack> repeat fashion"

Every last complaint he has also applies to Gears 1 & 2 (both of 'em, yeah), so I suppose he isn't a fan of this type of game.

Tarasque5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

All games have the core gameplay mechanic and killzone is know different. But the demo left a bad taste in my mouth regardless.

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To the guy above seriously, you really think the textures are detailed? There is no depth to the textures at all they are just flat low detailed textures. I have let 2 people play it now and they have both said the same exact things, controls suck and the textures suck. But the lighting and atmosphere is great, i guess that's a trade off.

monkpunk15588d ago

because all sony playstation players that downloaded the demo are "fanboys" tits to the author

Sevir045588d ago

Tarsque the open zone is -----> way, if this game left a bad taste in your mouth then so should gears and uncharted, i'm likely to think it's the latter because you are simply a 360 fanboy, oh and the word you are looking for is "No", Not "KNOW" your usage of the word is totally incorrect and out of context.

it's as my friend say, haters will always get a product just to say they have it and hate on it. haters behave like this, and you tarsque are no different.... --------------> open zone.

pixelsword5588d ago

you can't name a game that exists that doesn't have a pattern.

callahan095588d ago

Tarasque, did you even look at the ground? The ground alone looks amazing. There are pebbles and rocks, dirt, mud, etc. The way all of these elements get kicked up by the wind and fly across the battlefield... You can't deny the beauty of this game and the engine it's running on. And the controls suck? How can they suck? The controls are actually really great, in my opinion. If you think they suck, that's your problem, not the game's problem.

Str8laced5588d ago

Wow.....Just Wow, flapping your chops of trying to justify someone's opinion. Throwing out stupid comments and also trying to correct someone's English, did you pay attention to his name. Maybe he wasn't born in the U.S. And to you my sir, people that have their head so far up people a$$e's will try to defend them to the end. You can't see to clearly with sh!t blocking your eye's.

Tarasque5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

Maybe you have not been paying attention to the backlash on the controls, maybe you need to stroll over to GG forums and take a peak. The controls are my problem? That actually is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. That would be like saying i am at fault cause my brand new truck is unresponsive and i have to hit the brake repeatedly to get it to work, and Chevy told me it was my fault i don't know how to drive.

jammy_705588d ago

same as every shooter EVER!!!!!
and ...every game EVER!!!!
seriously what else cud it be, you have to make progress and this is how you do it!!!

callahan095588d ago

So you've complained about the controls twice now without actually saying what you don't like about them. Enlighten us, then, because I found them to be more than comfortable and responsive enough for me to enjoy the game.

Consoldtobots5588d ago

lol @ fanboys foaming at the mouth over KZ2's greatness. What's next?
KZ2 eats babies? KZ2 stole my wife? or maybe it was KZ2 on the grassy knoll?

Ryo-Hazuki5588d ago

wtf is wrong with this guy....its a DEMO that lasts like 10 min...on top of that, that whole demo is just a huge tutorial and then it ends

No Way5588d ago

I agree. Pretty much every game that I can recall, at least a shooter, has a pattern to follow. Many other games have the same effect, as well.

xwabbit5588d ago

ROFL AT Article, cant believe some 1 actually wrote this. All games have PATTERNS. Some journalist only care about hits but wow sometimes they forget how stupid they sound. Do a review on mario next ok ?

xwabbit5588d ago

Tarasque must be Whythis best's friend LOL. Controls ? You know... there are over 5 types of controls u can choose from. Second whats ur PSN ID.

Yipee Bog5588d ago

I got the same impression from a 15 MINUTE demo. /sarcasm
seriously. Gears of war doesn't feel the same way?

thebudgetgamer5588d ago

i am going to make a realistic shooter. you can just stand out in the open without fear of being riddled with bullets, and the only way to move forward is to win a two out of three in odds or even. look out for more info @ retarded games dot org

:)

Viper75588d ago

Lol thats 99% of fps games for you, call of duty follows the pattern, gears of war follows that pattern, Farcry2, Halo, Resistance, Bioshock, Battlefield.

Hell only first person shooters that I know that do not follow this are probably Serious Sam and Deus ex.

Serius sam is more about advancing while shooting and killing and Deus ex breaks this with adventure and rpg elements.

But to tell the truth, isnt this what fps games are about. New addons like shaping the enviroment or super powers will just bring another thing to repeat to this cycle.

Sevir045588d ago

I'm not the one who has my head in someones ass, I corrected his english because the word "
"No" is universal, Pull your head out of your own ass. Good day Sir.

mgsfan5588d ago

what do they want in a shooter a mad crazy clown man to jump out and have a dance war with you.......*sigh*

Nonsense 4 Gamers5588d ago

And people wonder where I got my name...

Highatus5588d ago (Edited 5588d ago )

The dumbest thing from reviews and impressions for this game is when they talk about the dialogue.

Curse words are nothing new and almost a part of everyone's day to day vocabulary.

If i'm in a war getting shot at what do you think i'm going to say?

Pardon me sir. Please stop firing your gun at me for a moment while i tend to this wounded fellow?

Or

Gentlemen you need to move your tushies, or i will perform rectal surgery with my foot.

No... i think not, and i reckon if i did my squadmates would probably turn and shoot me instead.

Another ridiculous claim is the control scheme. I picked up the default controls rather quicky and thought they were quite intuitive. To those that constantly complain about them...Have you ever played a FPS before? and if you have, how did you fare? I will quote some infamous lines that can be found in a game called WoW.

Learn2Play

or

Learn2NotSuck

I have heard some lag issues on the controls within the demo, which if true is unfortunate for those that have it, i have not experienced it myself, though remember it is a demo.

prowiew5588d ago

I dont know about you guys. But playing the demo killed my expectations of the game. It was a little underwhelming to me.

II-Reaper-II5588d ago

Call me stupid but isnt Gears the same thing?OH no im sorry Gears is
advance-cover-attack-cover again then repeat.Im tired of these stupid fanboys just trying to find anything in the game to say something bad about it.We PS3 owners are gonna get the best or one of the best FPS this generation GET OVER IT!!!.

Lifendz5587d ago

RPG's are talk to someone, get a quest, grind, talk to someone, get a quest, grind, beat the game

Gears is cover, shoot, cover, shoot, cover, shoot.

Let's not be ticky tacky about this. The game is great. We don't have to resort to criticizing it for not reinventing the genre.

N4360G5587d ago (Edited 5587d ago )

LOL you can't just advance without taking cover,you'll get yourself killed.I can't wait to buy and play Killzone 2 on my PS3 in only 20 more days!!

agareen5587d ago (Edited 5587d ago )

u shouldnt even put gears and killzone in da same sentence.
gears perfected da cover system.
and dnt give me dis sh*t bout chest high walls. uncharted had chest high walls.

Jake11115587d ago

To those of you that are saying the game isnt good I highly doubt you have played it. I have finished the Demo about 8 times and I want to go back for more.

I think what makes the game amazing are the controls (yes I said controls are good!), AI and realism...

The controls are innovative! At first I switched to a COD type control and found it too hard to use cover and zoom. So I went back and pushed to "CHANGE" my thinking. And guess what! I changed and love it. Pushing the R3 to zoom feels almost natural now. The cover seems natural. Peeking up and around cover is wild!

AI??? I can sum it up with this. I was hiding behind cover and realized I was getting shot. I looked around and thought... Ok.. no one in sight..glitch??? NO!!!!! The dude was halway up the stairs to my left and he was shooting me through the cover and the gap that was to the left of my cover! For a second I thought I was online??? Then I realized these were NPCs!!!! I have never played against bots or NPCs that were this smart! Never!

Realism?? The explosions, sound, weight of the character, movement, scenery, physics, destruction are all amazing. I have yet to see a gas can indent when I shot it. I have yet to see a plastic table bust apart with plastic fiber sticking out. This is amazing.

Therefore, the truth is this. This game is AMAZING and innovative! PERIOD!!! I am in no means a fanboy! I have the 360 as well and think he 360 has some great games. I loved GOW1 GOW2 etc etc... But I have played nothing close to this on any other console!! I truly believe it was the competition from Microsoft that pushed Sony to make games of this quality this generation. Without the 360 we would have potentially had a "stepping stone" system before the PS3... Regardless. I am a HAPPY GAMER!

KEEP THEM COMING MICROSOFT AND SONY!!! Cant wait until Feb 27!!!!!

Jake

FrankenLife5587d ago

What the **** does this ****ing asshole what out of a ****ing first person shooter. You go forward. Some ***hole shoots at you. You get the **** out of the way. Then you shoot the ****er in the head. You don't stop shooting until everyone is dead or you are able to go forward. What the ****? Even Bioshock, which was the most innovative shooter for a long time followed that gameplay. If this ***hole thinks that this form of fps gameplay is tired and old, then why doesn't he come up with a better one. It is just like you can't build a better mouse trap. Making demands that it is other people's responsibility to build a better wheel is just ****tarded.
/rant

incogneato5587d ago

So true, but since it's on the PS3 IT NEEDS TO REVOLUTIONARY CRAZY AND OUT OF THIS WORLD to achieve a decent critique.

dantesparda5587d ago

The 360 fanboys are unbelievable! Their hate for this game is unbelievable, eh? And everytime some no name site or blog talks sh!t about K2, they (the 360 fanboys) comes out and defend it like its true because of their predetermined hate for all things PS3 & Sony. They hate this game, and are trying everything to bring this game down, but its really just pathetic and petty on their part. Because all they are really doing is just nitpicking and b!tching about the pettiest little things. But then again what else would you expect from them?

All the meanwhile, they think Halo Wars is so fvcking great and dont question anything about it, one bit. Where is the media picking apart of that game, eh? Where is all the bullsh!t complaints about that games controls and bugs and repetiveness, or the fact that RTS games are all the same, and the "been there, done that"? Huh? Where is it!? But the media isnt biased, right 360 fanboys? That's just some delusional conspiracy theory conjured up by Sony fanboys and their paranoiac thinking, right?

The 360 fanboy is the most pathetic, b!tchiest, delusional, and down right mean-spirited and nasty fanboy there is. PEROID! They are all snobs and think they are smarter and better than the Sony fanboys. Oh and they are not "fanboys", only Sony fanboys are "fanboys". They always complain about how N4G is some fanboy infested website, just because is got more Sony fanboys than 360 fanboys, yet never mention a peep about how the rest of the damn internet is infested with fanboys. Cuz you see those are usually 360 fanboys. Hence they are not fanboys, but rather non-fanboys who can see the light. Unlike you blinded Sony sheeps (according to their thinking). It is all biased thinking, and its bullsh!t, its not right, its not fair, and its never gonna end. But its the way the humans are and the way the world works. You take a side and stick to it and hate the fvck out of the other side no matter what.

Look people, you will never get a fair unbiased review or opinion from these websites. We dont need reviews anymore, not when you have a bazillion videos of a game on the internet and demos. Stop letting other people you dont know sway how you feel. Fvck them, they are just out to fulfill their agenda.

no-spin5587d ago

on normal i noticed the a.i. was intense. The helghast covered just as you would, pin yuou down and not stay in the same place so you can wait for them come out.
the so called pattern:
well i see the pattern of this dumb articles to get hits, so its okay for the journalist to follow this pattern i guess. I hope this person never goes to war, he would not get past the first wall :)

BigSwede5587d ago

Killzone sucks. Btw Sweden is the best country in the world.

jadenkorri5587d ago

omg a covering system, run, cover shoot, rince repeat, rince repeat etc, etc, really f*cking funny to be saying that when Gears Of War is the exact same thing...OMG Killzone 2 having a covering system...

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Raoh5588d ago

hihater.com

LOL did he notice that only one class was available for demo?

how is this different from any fps formula?

also have played it a few times... each time was different the AI is on point.. when they get into a formula yeah you can figure it out, but depending how you play (sober last night, kinda drinking right now) its not the same game each time

begone hater

Playa79705588d ago

And COD is like run cover shoot repeat....

Gears Run cover shoot chainsaw repeat....

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Playa79705588d ago

COD is like run cover shoot repeat....

Gears Run cover shoot chainsaw repeat....

CrazyOrange5588d ago

but Japanese RPGs

Solve Puzzles.
Hack and slash attack, use magic, use items
defend,run.
look for treasure.
buy/sell you stuff.
make items.
do quests.
customize your character.

and in FPS
Shoot, Shoot, Cover ,reload , change weapon and do it untill you complete the game with crappy story.

steriotyp5588d ago

You just summed up the formula for every FPS ever created. Story or not, all games of the genre follow this formula. Well, I guess we are bound to see some fanboyish articles about release time right?

JsonHenry5588d ago

Every? You obviously did not play PAINKILLER when it first came out. No time to cover there. Balls to the wall run and gun baby.

pixelsword5588d ago

Shoot, reload, repeat.

I'm just kidding, but like I said, every game has a pattern.

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OtterX80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro79d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7279d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_79d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga79d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2379d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200080d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin80d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole80d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix80d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198979d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198979d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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SullysCigar384d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor384d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar384d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg383d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149383d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138384d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim384d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC384d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138384d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle384d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76384d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM383d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730384d ago (Edited 384d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger383d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca384d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy384d ago (Edited 384d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal383d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright383d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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shinoff2183755d ago

No ps3 is not retro. I dont even consider ps2 era retro. All imo.

shinoff2183755d ago

Typically, the term retro is given to items which are at least 20 years old (but not yet 40 years old).

Quick google search

badz149755d ago

No the PS3 is not yet a retro console. But if you're gonna put 1 game from a series in this list, then LBP2 should be there instead of the original, Motorstorm PR is also an overall better game than the 1st game and to put Tools of Destruction over A Crack in Time is a blasphemy when ACiT is the best game in the series.