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Deviation Games shuts down

Los Angeles-based developer Deviation Games has closed down, the studio announced.

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XiNatsuDragnel65d ago

Unfortunate ngl I hope deviation makes another studio.

RaidenBlack65d ago

Deviation was reportedly “over 100 strong” in 2021 when it signed the deal with Sony. At the time of its announcement, the studio told GamesIndustry.biz that its PlayStation deal ensured “complete financial security for years and years to come”. ~ via VGC
They didn't even get the chance to release their debut project, an original IP which was set to be exclusive to PlayStation platforms. Likely FPS, which PS portfolio severely lacks.

MrBaskerville65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

It really does feel like Sony is scaling down on their live service plans. Also think that's why 2024 i fairly barren firstpartyvise.

Not that this particular studio is first party.

Bathyj65d ago

I bet you Jade Redmond is shitting herself.

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execution1765d ago

🤔 thought she formed Haven Studios

Sonic188165d ago (Edited 65d ago )

I thought she formed and work at Havens Studios? I didn't know she worked for Deviation games as well. Deviation games was in trouble when Jason Blundell the co-founder left the company. So I'm not to surprised this happen

-Foxtrot65d ago

They should have never bought Haven

They hadn’t even produced anything

I do hope they get a chance as a single player studio if their GaaS title fails

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Profchaos65d ago

Live and vr it's clearly taken a hit after London studios

ocelot0765d ago

I hope so. There is a place for Live Service games. Helldivers 2 is a perfect example as is Destiny 2. However, Sony don't need loads of them. They now have 2 good ones. Add another 1 or 2 to cover the next 3-5 years. At the same time focus on single player experiences.

Lightning7765d ago

Studio shut downs and more job lost Sony even promised them financial security and didn't even pan out. Yet you hope the games cancelled? If there's ever a death of the industry is because of fanboys like yourself. Let's pretend Sony is perfect and not at all at fault. Deviants gone (not even their studio), London is gone and MM was almost on the choppin block also barely scraped by. Let that sink in.

But your reasoning is selfish. Too many LS. That's not what I want so this is a pro consumer move in your book right? Again ppl like you will kill this industry nobody else.

ocelot0765d ago

@Ligjtning77

Yup, Absolutely people like me ruin the industry. You know Sony take my word and do as I say. It's my fault deviation is now no more because someone over at Sony read a comment online that I don't like Live service games. So they decided to close them because of my comment.

I'll learn from my selfish mistakes. Tell you what because I'm a nasty pasty because I don't like LS titles. To make things right and help the industry grow ill stop buying games altogether and what I'll do then is pay £6 per month and play some day one titles for little to no money. As well as older titles with my subscription.

Then if any new games don't release on that subscription. I'll just illegally download them on my pc. Yer I'll do that it will help the industry grow.

So to recap. Me disliking live services games and having 0% sway on what Sony do = I'm killing the industry.

Me stop buying new releases and buying a sub for the cost of a pizza per month and illegally downloading games on pc witch is something I could (I don't) do as well as many others can do. But nah total won't kill the industry.

Massive /s

Ironmike65d ago

Destiny 2 is dead being dying for few yrs

Lightning7765d ago

What does you have anything to do with buying a subscription to play games? What does have anything to anything I said?

You said I hope so. Which is weird because this news confirms they shut down.

You're only ok with it because this isn't a Sony owned Studio. Nvm jobs lost and another game canned as long as it's about what you want and clearing and justifying it since Sony is involved. A independent studio being shut down due to Corporate meddling is what this is. Another game and studio gone, but it's OK because Sony already has too many LS as is, (in development) no harm done in another one being gone is what you're saying. Even if the studio stayed and released their game You don't have to buy it you know that right? It's not your type of game which is fine It's a preference. My issue with you is, you're just OK with the studio going under because it's was a LS (a game you dont want) and it's ok because you simply want SP games from Sony and all actions are justified here. Forget jobs lost and studio gone and IP being canned. This is good news to you.

ocelot0765d ago

@Lightning77

There you go again claiming I said this that and I mean this and that. My OG comment in reply to MrBaskViller. Who said this looks like Sony is is scaling back on live service plans.

I simply said I hope so lol. Not once did I say I I'm happy to see a studio close. I simply said I rather Sony focus on what they have done for 30 years. I'm not a fan of LS games.

If me not liking LS games and wishing for single player games offends you then I really don't care.

As for subscription comment. It was just a way to point out how much poo you are typing. You are accusing me of killing the gaming business because I prefer single player games and because I wish Sony don't focus so much on LS.

My comments on a internet forum is simply a opinion. How can that kill the business??????

Now back to the subscription comment. That's something I can absolutely contribute to help kill the gaming business. Pay £6 a month for a rental service. Pirate the ones not on the service. That will help kill the business NOT MY OPINIONS!!!!!!!!

Michiel198965d ago

Destiny 2 is a terrible example

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porkChop64d ago

Rather than shutting studios down or pulling funding PS could have reworked these projects into proper, non live service games. That might have been the better option. Flashing cash and promising financial security before pulling the rug out from under the studio isn't a good look.

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outsider162465d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Say..have these guys made anything?

Edit: never mind, i found it.
-Founded in 2020.
- working on a live service ip for playstation.

Profchaos65d ago

Industry is so fragile right now it feels like it's crashing

raWfodog65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Nah I think it’s just finding the correct equilibrium. We see these phases throughout many industries. In this case, we’re seeing the re-adjustment after the COVID boom where the industry grew due to many people staying at home more and looking for stuff to keep them busy.

The industry will refocus, adapt, and continue. It’s worth billions of dollars and will not be easily abandoned.

itsmebryan65d ago

I don't think so. Microsoft seem pretty stable and are looking to buy more studios. That way they are helping to stabilize the gaming industry .

Profchaos65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

They haven't really spoken about buying more studios since Activision was announced though.

Through leaked information we know Internally there's been a lot of talk about not hitting the desired ROI from all acquisitions so itay be a strategy they are pivoting from.

Plus they have also has some significant lay offs and also just lost a studio in toys for Bob.

It's a weird time in the industry I don't recall it ever being this turbulent i worry for where we are going if it's going to result in the decline of single player games or more forced live service games I don't care about exclusivity going Multi plat if games are good enough I'll be on that platform I care about declining quality and innovation which I've absolutely noticed this generation

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic55m ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

gleepot7h ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

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Xbox Gives Incoherent Explanation For ‘Hi-Fi Rush’ Studio Closure

The gaming world is still reeling from the announcement that Microsoft is shuttering Tango Gameworks, the studio behind last year’s big Xbox hit, Hi-Fi Rush.

Reaper22_4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They have a reason but they don't need to give a explanation. Gamers nowadays think they have a say so in telling people how to run their company. It's not the end of the world, fanboys. Microsoft is gonna due what benefits them the most. It's never been about you. Same with sony. Some of you need to get a grip. The crazy part is that some of the ones complaining don't even own an xbox.

enkiduxiv3h ago

I don’t own an Xbox and I have no real interest in HiFi Rush. I just hate to see a talented group of people lose their jobs when they did everything that was asked of them. You know… the decent, normal reaction to have when something like this happens.

Relientk771d 7h ago

There's no logical or good reason to give for closing Tango Gameworks. They make great games consistently and Hi-Fi Rush was the highest rated Xbox game in literal YEARS. Closing the studio was just plain stupid and nonsensical.

notachance11h ago

It’s quite strange to not see Phil Spencer in any talkshow or podcast… usually the dude would talk almost daily when there’s even a bit of news from xbox.

Hofstaderman10h ago

Muzzled and/or in on it from the very beginning. You have to be a very stupid person not to anticipate that your division is going to be under scrutiny from shareholders after 80 Billion Dollars worth of acquisitions

Aloymetal10h ago

The beauty of being a CEO here in America is that when your company does well, you get extra money as a reward...
And when your company does badly, you get extra money to encourage you to stick around and lead it through the storm...And at some point, you get to bow out and float toward retirement on your golden parachute, which means and you guessed it, MORE MONEY!! What a deal for snake oil man Phil!!

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-Foxtrot6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Oh god no

You see when shit like this happens he throws Sarah Bond to the wolves

Seriously I only hear from her when it’s the yearly big Xbox showcase or when it’s super bad.

When the whole multiplatform release came out earlier this year he put her front and centre…kept his mouth shut for most of it

purple10111h ago

Perhaps they think they can sweep this one under the rug, gamers will forget about it,

We will not

They made a good game and you put the whole studio in the bin, this couldn’t be clearer, ms don’t care, everyone suspected it, but now we KNOW it

Amplitude10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

She's kinda got the verbal communication of 3-years-ago Biden trying to say something he knows nothing about.
What she meant to say is: "We wasted our budget for the next couple years buying Call of Duty, and we're moving all our chips to that one series"

It's starting to seem quite obvious that XBox is going to be shutting down most of their studios or selling them off, then focusing on some sort of PC/Console hybrid OS for the next XBox where they can collect royalties Valve style.

esherwood8h ago

To be fair I don’t think there is a good answer, I’d rather her been honest but that probably would have pissed more people of then the word salad route.

Silly Mammo6h ago

Amp- Do you ever get tired of trying to make everything political?

1Victor5h ago

@amp please leave your political red ruby sleepers at the door this is a gaming site or go back to truthfoxnewsmax to comment over there.
BACK ON TRACK
It’s obvious that Microsoft is moving on the money now direction guided by their investors watching all the failures from the 3rd quarter of the 360 gen to this generation I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a plan to replace Phil with Bobby as he proved for years he kept making money for activision.

shinoff21833h ago

Bobby jeez that would be an interesting turn of events and they'd certainly go 3rd party

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername18h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake17h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica3h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos15h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername8h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_11h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces10h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7710h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde12h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher10h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson7h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan6h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan3h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

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CrashMania18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz17h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff218312h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman17h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73015h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde11h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19896h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal13h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware73013h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_11h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7716h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake12h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19896h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

Charal16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast16h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73015h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast14h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast9h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto7h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19896h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

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Babadook73h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

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