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Updates on the Xbox Business

Hear from Phil Spencer, Sarah Bond and Matt Booty as they share updates on the Xbox business

RaidenBlack82d ago

As per Verge:
" Sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans tell me the first two titles will be Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment, followed by Sea of Thieves and Grounded. "
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Cacabunga82d ago

He says only 4 games will come and doesn’t mean other games are coming cause they are NOT..
Few seconds later he says xbox focus is to bring all games to other platforms and other players LOL

MrBaskerville82d ago

They always say that they will bring their games to as many people as possible, which means PC and Xbox in Spencer lingo.

LG_Fox_Brazil82d ago

"They always say that they will bring their games to as many people as possible, which means PC and Xbox"

And yet, here we are with four headed to Nintendo and Sony platforms. If those games make them some bucks, and they will, then you can bet that all the rest will arrive on PS5 and Switch (those that are possible).

fr0sty82d ago

They opened by saying "only 4 games", then spent the rest of the podcast justifying why bringing more games to other platforms is a good thing... which, as I called out 2 days ago, the 4 games is just them desensitizing their player base to the idea of them going full on multiplatform, and as more games get announced, they are going to start releasing them on other consoles as well. It'll probably start with a "first on Xbox", but before long they'll want to keep chasing that extra money from the better selling consoles, and they'll start releasing them day and date across all platforms.

They also made no commitment that GamePass day 1 releases will remain that way...

And as I called out 2 days ago, their talk of next gen was vague at best, leaving them an off-ramp should they decide to not make a new system.

343_Guilty_Spark82d ago

Looks like small games. Games over a year old, no Indy no Starfield.

Lightning7782d ago (Edited 82d ago )

He said 4 games are making it over. In fact LS games going forward will most likely be Multiplat. He never said all games are coming over. You missed the part where he said Hellblade, SF and Indy are staying. Games like those are staying.

Nice make believe but you are a fanboy so naturally you would spread misinformation and spread nonesense.

Good-Smurf82d ago

Sounds like he slow boiling the green frog but he's the one already on the verge of panicking instead.
Weird that it was clearly pre-recorded and treated as a video not a livestream podcast like they teased earlier.

crazyCoconuts82d ago

yup more double talk. not a strategy change, followed by a strategy change.
Guess we'll have to wait to see in practice what happens

fr0sty82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

He said 4 games are currently announced to be coming, and then spent the next half hour explaining to you why more announcements in the future is a good thing for the Xbox ecosystem... but you didn't want to hear that, so all you heard was "4 games". As mentioned above, this is slow boiling the frog so it doesn't jump ship. They want to keep the players they have on Xbox currently, while desensitizing you all to the idea of your exclusives no longer being exclusive. Before long more existing games will be announced just so you can dismiss them as "who cares, those are old games", and then when you see new games announced, you'll get a "first on Xbox"... and within a year or two, you'll be seeing all games announced to launch multiplatform day one.

They're breaking the truth to you slowly... and you not realizing that is just what they want, so you don't jump ship.

TheTony31682d ago

Phil said he doesn't rule out other games going to PS5/Nintendo in the future. You really think they'll stop at just 4 games? This is just the beginning.

shinoff218382d ago

I don't think people realize how much physiology goes into marketing. Yes 4 games now then slowly but surely more and more then oops we accidently made this aaa game for ps5 we might as well release it right. It's mind games to ease into it.

Kiryu199282d ago

Inagine if Phil said all games are coming to PS5. Internet would have a meltdown by announcing only 4 games they are easing the blowback. He said something along the lines of these games are more than a year old so their avenues for generating more revenue have slowed while other platforms allow them to sell them as full price and make a lot of revenue

We all should read between the lines. Phil himself said moving forward there will be less and less exclusives on any platform

The cost of Spider-Man 2 was “300 million” and GTA reportedly will cost over a billion so as the cost of making games go up these corporations aren’t charity they want to make as much money as possible

Extermin8or3_82d ago

in his interview he literally says if these sell well they will be coming accross

343_Guilty_Spark82d ago

Yeah all small games. Congratulations you played yourself!

StormSnooper82d ago

I wonder if he will remain lord and savior Spencer to Xbox fanbase after this.

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Christopher82d ago

It feels like they're doing similar to PlayStation, just more than PC. We'll get a trickle of new games each year, not the whole portfolio.

VenomUK82d ago

That podcast didn’t do Xbox any favours,

VenomUK82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

Sarah Bond: “There’s some exciting stuff coming out in hardware that we’re going to share this holiday. We’re also invested in the next-generation roadmap.”

‘Share’ doesn’t mean release, it means reveal. The XSX Pro will be revealed and released Christmas 2025.
The ‘we’re also invested’ refers to something different which is next-gen Xbox.

I don’t think Microsoft should release an Xbox Pro, it did it with the Xbox One X and it boasted that it had the most powerful hardware but then the gap between its launch and the XSX release was too small and I believe hurt the console’s sales. This is what happened with Sega’s 32x which hurt the Sega Saturn.

Christopher82d ago

***I don’t think Microsoft should release an Xbox Pro***

I don't think midgen updates are useful at all anymore and only make more issues than they solve.

badz14982d ago

@Christopher

Not useful at all? The introduction of performance modes for the XboneX and PS4Pro was a huge revelation for console gaming in general and it carries over to this gen which has been awesome.

Christopher82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

***Not useful at all? The introduction of performance modes for the XboneX and PS4Pro was a huge revelation for console gaming***

Literally weren't huge revelations. Quickly went out with next generation and this generation can't even maximize on their capabilities, let alone release games that don't need plentiful number of patches to fix their issues. We're in an age of more and more game crashing in AAA games, not less. And the advancement of technology is a fraction of the past generation and the next generation will be similar. We're really only chasing framerates at 4k here now. Technology isn't evolving enough and publishers don't want their developers pushing too hard because it's just not worth the extra work.

MontyeKristo82d ago

@Christopher - I believe midgen updates are just a cashgrab and to allow new owners to jump in for cheaper.

Current owners sell their basic system for cheaper to newcomers and then put that money towards the 'pro.' Getting more players in and selling more consoles.

FinalFantasyFanatic82d ago

@Christopher,
They've already fragmented their installation base with the Series S and Series X, let's not make it worse with a Series Pro or something, the Series S was such a bad idea.

Notellin81d ago

@badz149 Yes the mid generation upgrades were completely useless and never used optimally.

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RaidenBlack82d ago

Also,
Sarah Bond teases the next generation Xbox will be the “largest technical leap ever”
Mentions new hardware options in the Series X|S line coming out this fall, potentially a handheld console.

“There’s some exciting stuff coming out in hardware that we’re going to share this holiday. We’re also invested in the next-generation roadmap. What we’re really focused on there is delivering the largest technical leap you will have ever seen in a hardware generation.”

GamingSinceForever82d ago

And so will PC and PlayStation. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Scissorman82d ago

The box is open now. This is just the beginning. I'm going to treat every Xbox Games Showcase as a third-party showcase for PlayStation and Switch going forward. =P

Hofstaderman82d ago

That new series hardware is likely adorably digital.

Lightning7782d ago

But N4G told me that aren't making another console. Even though I been saying they are for like the 1000th time. Just another day where half the ppl are always wrong here. Especially when you know they wrong you just let them hope and believe.

fr0sty82d ago

This isn't a commitment to make a new console, it's a commitment to a road map... key words. They left an off-ramp there, just as I predicted 2 days ago.

Christopher82d ago

***But N4G told me that aren't making another console.***

You're fighting windmills here.

Lightning7782d ago (Edited 82d ago )

@Frosty right I guess that means it's not happening right?

Again you're always wrong about every single thing anyway we know how this goes. See you in 2026 or 2027 with new Xbox lol.

Profchaos82d ago

Isn't it always about delivering the largest technical leap?
They thought the same with the Xbox one.

It's not like they are going to announce oh yeah it's a bit better which will likely be the reality as huge generational jumps like SNES to n64 or PS2 to 360 are long gone we will get incremental hardware boosts and new rendering techniques supported from here on out

dumahim82d ago

"The most/biggest/largest thing ever!" Xbox has been using that trope for over a decade.

FinalFantasyFanatic82d ago

@Profchaos,
I have to question, has APU technology progressed enough to deliver a worthwhile leap? Anyway, throwing more hardware at people doesn't solve Microsoft's issues.

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Profchaos82d ago

Part of me was hoping for sunset overdrive as PlayStation own insomniac who own the IP yet Microsoft own the publishing rights to the 1st game.

So the only way it will ever happen is via a collaboration like that.

I know sunset didn't sell great but it was probably my fave exclusive Xbox one game. Also the game was kind of a victim of wrong place wrong time it came to Xbox while they were still the shooty bang bang platform and wasn't marketed very good at all no one knew what it even was then it dropped on games with gold early in its lifecycle basically ending any chance of sales

MontyeKristo82d ago

Sunset was fantastic and a helluva fun game to play.

MrSec8482d ago

https://www.theverge.com/20...

Phil stated it outright, they want Xbox games everywhere, so as and when porting resources allow they will put every game on other devices, which means PlayStation, Nintendo, Apple and Android, if those platforms have hardware that can handle versions of their games.

They'll start with Grounded, Sea of Thieves, Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment, then we'll see the next phase coming, the next lot is anyone's guess.
I suspect at some point they'll want a version of Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and potentially Ryse Son of Rome, in order to make it feasible to get sequels of those titles.

More platforms, means more potential for return and that could make new games for older franchises a viable option.

Phil's definitely not just talking about other games only coming back to Xbox and PC, that makes no sense @MrBaskerVille, they're opening up completely, the context of this link and the internal memo from Phil says it all.

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FPSRUSSIA82d ago

well we know the two of the games Hi fi rush and sea of thieves are wonder what the other two are?

darthv7282d ago (Edited 82d ago )

im good with them branching out on some of their older titles they feel could benefit from expanded player base. It's like Phil said initially... case by case basis.

Hi-Fi Rush, Grounded, Sea of Thieves, and Pentiment seem like a good first batch.

Outside_ofthe_Box82d ago

“I do have a fundamental belief that over the next five or ten years exclusive games, games that are exclusive to one piece of hardware, are going to be a smaller and smaller part of the game industry,”

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fr0sty82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

Sony agrees that PC is a good platform to target more aggressively, but Xbox doesn't sell enough to bother losing exclusives to... unlike Microsoft, who admittedly has to go multiplatform just to be able to keep funding new games, because Xbox's install base is too small to sell to exclusively, Sony is not in that position, they actually do have an advantage to gain by keeping their games console exclusive.

fr0sty82d ago

Case by case, but they spent 30 minutes making the case for bringing as many games as they can to other platforms.

darthv7282d ago

in a perfect world... everything is available to everyone... All it takes is someone to extend the first olive branch. Is Sony going to allow MS to be the second coming or were they trying to head off this news yesterday with their own admission that maybe going to the center (or more center) is the best path forward.

MS has always been open to the idea of branching out. They are a software company first and foremost. They always saw the hardware division as a tertiary investment. I really dont care what games they offer up because they have been doing it with several IP already. Viva pinata, Ori, Minecraft and now even more that they got through other acquitions. If they decide to keep certain ones closer to their chest... fine with me as I still buy their hardware just as i buy the others.

People need to stop being so loyal to a box/company and be loyal to their own wants and desires. If that means buying a platform they wouldnt normally buy because they want to play a certain game... so be it. At least be honest with yourself that you have an interest in the games, not so much the platform or company behind it.

Some are so blinded by loyalty that they deny themselves the opportunity to enjoy this hobby.

Lightning7782d ago (Edited 82d ago )

Where did they say everything is coming over? Show the link where he said that?

I want proof. I dont want excuses I want links. So Save the gibberish.

The3faces82d ago

I guess you weren't paying attention during the FTC ABK trial when Jim Ryan said PlayStation gamers don't buy enough first party games to sustain Sony, which is why he didn't want MS buying COD

RaidenBlack82d ago

Was expecting Ryse, Quantum Break, Dead Rising 3 & Sunset Overdrive to come to PS
:P

darthv7282d ago

All of those would have to be up to their respective developers to port. MS only did the publishing. SSOD seems like a no brainer though given the situation. Im all for it if it leads to finally getting the sequel they pitched long ago.

FinalFantasyFanatic82d ago

I was hoping for Halo 5 personally, or Gears, Halo 5 is the only Halo game locked to Xbox at the present time.

RaidenBlack82d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
well Halo 5 needs to come to PC first ...

Hofstaderman82d ago

Four games but will not name them? We believe you Phil.... Two seconds later states that exclusives are a dying thing. Read between the lines...everything is going multiplatform from them going forward. Play on every and any screen.

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aconnellan82d ago

Phil: not everything is going multiplat

Hofstaderman: read between the lines, means everything is going multiplat

dumahim82d ago

That's how you spend 20+ minutes talking and actually say almost nothing.

343_Guilty_Spark82d ago

But Indy and Starfield aren't coming to PS5 like you said.

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-Foxtrot82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

A few games to start then it’ll be more and more and more

It’s like a domino effect

Indiana Jones and Starfield will come eventually, then Elder Scrolla VI. It’s just he doesn’t want to say because too much at once will send people into a meltdown.

fr0sty82d ago

Exactly, these 4 are just to get people used to the idea of Xbox no longer having exclusives, they wouldn't have spent the next 30 minutes saying "we want our games on as many screens as possible" if that wasn't the case.

darthv7282d ago

I never understood why so many put so much weight on the exclusives aspect. Ive been in this hobby since 77... I have played countless games across the widest range of hardware. I always play the third party titles most and will play them on whichever platform plays them the best. sometimes it was Genesis, others it was SNES just like some games played better on Saturn vs PS1 or Xbox vs Gamecube vs PS2.

I have no loyalties to anyone but myself. i play all the systems, but i dont hold exclusives in some high regard like others do... that just seems unhealthy.

Obscure_Observer82d ago

You´ll never gonna get it!!!

Give it up!

Redgrave82d ago

I'll hold you to this statement. If you are wrong and Starfield comes to PS5 at some future point, even if it's a few years off; I trust you'll be ready to make amends for your vigilance.

-Foxtrot82d ago

LMAO

You said people wouldn’t get this so…

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Hofstaderman82d ago

You exactly where you were since last week. Nothing of note came out of this other than a confirmation that games are coming out for Playstation. And a very heavy hint that future games may not be exclusive.
At least Diablo is coming to Gamepass, yay.

Flawlessmic82d ago

Yea cause it makes total sense for the plan to release just 4 games on playstation and then never look at it again lol

Whether people like to admit it or not the gates have been opened now, Ms by choice are choosing to release some of there 1st party games on ps.

It would be utter foolishness to think this is where it starts and ends but hey whatever makes u feel better.

1Victor82d ago (Edited 82d ago )

@obscured: “ You´ll never gonna get it!!!

Give it up!”
🤣
🤣That’s what sega fanboy said to the Nintendo fanboys in the school backyard and look what happens.
Fail to learn from history and it’ll repeat itself, in your case you’re suffering from dejavú so badly that you’re walking backwards to move forward 🤣
So it’s confirmed that halo the master chief collection is coming to PlayStation along with the Gears of War collection as they both meet the criteria of older than a year and low engagement 🤨

notachance82d ago

Yeah just like what you said a few days ago which was no xbox games would come to playstation..

StormSnooper82d ago

We don’t even want Xbox trash, but Xbox wants us to have them. lol

RedDevils82d ago

Are you screaming under your parents basement? LMFAO

anast82d ago

I'll be thinking about you Observer when all those games get released on the PS5.

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Lightning7782d ago (Edited 82d ago )

Oh my lord the mental gymnastics with you ppl. Those games aren't coming to PS5. They've committed to those types of games to be only for Xbox gamers. Clearly since the next Xbox is in the works and they need those titles to sell consoles.

At best he basically said never say never as things and the market continues to shift and if they don't make growth in the next decade or so. Hell that translates to a Sony and Nintendo also, who's knows what will happen.

In the meantime those types of games aren't coming over. No offense but it sounds you all just coping at the moment. Just hoping and wishing right now.

@grave Phil said himself SF a isn't going to PS5... I swear it's like I'm talking to kids or something.

Y'all need to listen.

Flawlessmic82d ago

I'll repeat my statement.

Yea cause it makes total sense for the plan to be release just 4 games on playstation and then never look at it again ever lol

Whether people like to admit it or not the gates have been opened now, Ms by choice are choosing to release some of there 1st party games on ps.

It would be utter foolishness to think this is where it starts and ends but hey whatever makes u feel better.

Expect more titles to come, people might have wait a few yrs for the games as it will never be day and date but expect more to come.

How u walked out of that thinking it stops at those 4 games is beyond me.

Door is open now.

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-Foxtrot82d ago

@ScotlandYard

Ah don't worry about it, it's what he does when he's mad and p***** off

Goes straight for the insults and gives you a condescending attitude.

I mean he says I'm trying to cope yet made a p***** sounding reply which is literally him coping...so

Obscure_Observer82d ago

@Flawlessmic

"I'll repeat my statement."

Your "statement" means sh!t!

You´re free to live in lala land for the eternity like all delusional bozos that were expecting Xbox to leave the console market to become a third party publisher for Playstation.

Sarah just confirmed that a new and *POWERFUL* next gen Xbox console is in development so to release big flagship games on competition´s consoles to damage and devalue the Xbox brand and its console itself, only makes sense in the mind of people such as you.

Like I say before, Phil might throw you a bone every now and then with some smaller or GaaS games and that´s all that you´ll get!

Enjoy!

Einhander197282d ago

One step closer to playing Blade on my PS5 Pro.

StormSnooper82d ago

Nobody asked for MS to bring their games, MS is asking that they release their games on PlayStation. Partly because MS desperate to generate interest in their games. Let’s face it, Xbox is not in a good position.

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Lightning7782d ago

@Flaw I already said in another post it won't just be those games. Going forward LS and AA will make there way over to PS and Nintendo officially. While the "system sellers" will stay on Xbox and PC.

Phil said he doesn't know how these games will do on other platforms. It's more of an experiment to see how it'll do. If it does well he'll indeed more games will move over. Again I have to re-iterate, he still believes in AAA games as only on Xbox and PC unless something changes in the future of the buissness. But LS and AA will make their way over probably even day and date eventually.

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Flawlessmic82d ago

For reference I don't think xbox should be giving Sony shit all, and I'm glad they are staying in the console because Sony alone in the console market is bad for all of us.

But yea signs and symptoms guys, the tea leaves of where this is heading is pretty clear. They heard the rumblings and all they had to say was none of our big AAA releases will never come to playstation to clear that specific very large issue up and they didn't.

They stuck to very very present.

Either way, xsx is the last xbox I'll own pc,ps5 and nintendo is the way to go if you want to play everything. Might eventually be just pc and nintendo tbh.

Signs and symptoms guys

Lightning7782d ago (Edited 82d ago )

Scot really? It's called common sense think for a sec. Why would he release those AAA on series X or X2. He needs to sell systems for the X2 and try and make the Series X somewhat relevant this gen right? Why would he jeopardize that putting this games on PS?

For 100th time in the past hour he said nothing's off the table for those types of games. But.... Listen ok... But in the mean time those games will remain on Xbox and PC. That's literally what this whole thing is.

Maybe down the line SF could hit PS, if our buissness calls for it, nothing's off the table, that's it. That's what they're saying in short.

It's called bad faith takes and terrible comprehension. Or purposefully looking at this wrong for something that's obvious. You just gotta use a little bit of brain power. Plus ppl all over twitter are echoing what everyone is saying here. The funny thing is there all the fanboy nature yeah surprise, surprise fanboys spinning and making there own news.

dumahim82d ago

"Why would he release those AAA on series X or X2. He needs to sell systems for the X2 and try and make the Series X somewhat relevant this gen right? Why would he jeopardize that putting this games on PS?"

Because he talked about what makes sense for the business. Business sense says release some older stuff on the other consoles and get more sales. It's the same thing Sony is doing by releasing older stuff on PC. The priority for Sony is PlayStation, but once they've gotten most of the buyers they're going to get, put it out on PC and take in more. Since Xbox games are already on PC, the only room for the to expand to is PS and Switch. I'm not going to proclaim Starfield and Indy will ever wind up on PS, but this will just be the start to them bringing more stuff to other consoles.

Lightning7782d ago

Is that so Fox? Coping? Tell me how I'm coping and how I'm wrong then? Be my guest. Since you think you're so brilliant. You're absolutely right you have to be condescending on n4g. Or else ppl will walk all over you. Condescending while being right is a deadly combo as you've notice.

Go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong. Or remain quiet a because you can't tell me me how I'm wrong. This is a discussion right?

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Former Blizzard President Says Closures Hurt Phil Spencer 'as Much as Anyone Else'

The former president of Blizzard Mike Ybarra in a statement on Twitter says Microsoft Gaming CEO is hurting just as much as anyone else following the closure of three studios under Bethesda - Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, and Alpha Dog Studios. Roundhouse Games is also joining ZeniMax Online Studios.

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jambola6h ago

Yeahhh I doubt it's hurting a millionaire as much as it's hurting fans and people who lost their jobs

Name Last Name1h ago

Phil is the only guy in the industry that has plot armor.

Tody_ZA1h ago

Hahahahahahaha! xD Legendary comment.

Jingsing3h ago

I can already hear Jim Ross.. He has a family damnit!

Barlos1h ago

Poor Phil. He must be crying into his bonus cheques. Makes your heart bleed doesn't it?

MrDead50m ago(Edited 47m ago)

I'm sure he'll be upset that those cheques contain a small percentage of money MS is still making from the closed studios games too. Next time someone purchases High-fi Rush or Evil within all that money is now just Microsofts, just think the former devs at Tango who made Hi-fi Rush MS's most highly acclaimed game in years will get nothing more.

MS are buying these publishers for the big IP's like Elder Scrolls and Call of Duty they have little interest in the ones that don't make huge profits... and firing thousands and closing studios looks good on the next quarterly shareholder report. Gotta protect the share price.

Eonjay4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

This is all coming from the executive who thinks we should have the option to tip devs... apparently so publishers can pay devs minimum wage. Will someone think of the C-suite executives!!!

dumahim20m ago(Edited 15m ago)

That was from a former Blizzard exec. Did Phil make a comment on that also?

edit: Oh, it wasn't Phil who said this himself.

LucasRuinedChildhood4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Yeah, the guy making $10m a year is hurting as much as those who have lost their jobs and are worrying about their future and supporting their family. /s

It takes a real lack of shame to even try put the Good Guy Phil™ spin on this. It's not going to work this time.

Profchaos4h ago

He's sitting around feeling sorry when he should of been doing everything in his power to get people jobs in other studios you're telling me after toys for Bob split from Activision there wasn't a opening in the call of duty mines for arkane it's just woah is me.

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Walking Into The Surreal: An Interview Behind The Upcoming Game Greenfield

Greenfield is an upcoming puzzle platformer from indie studio Six Foot Giraffe. Gameranx recently spoke with the dev behind this surreal game.

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple10121h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave19h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK18h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

Chevalier12h ago

Nah idiots like those 2 are lost causes. Just look at the idiotic floundering comments already being posted.

ChiefofLoliPolice1h ago

Oh you and I both know that's never gonna happen. Some people you can't convince them there is a fire even if their own hair is burning. Denial is a powerful thing.

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amazinglover17h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts17h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman17h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow116h ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Lightning7712h ago

They made all that money and still doing studio shutdowns...

It's bottomless pit of money MS wants. There's no amount of money MS can make to save their own studios. They're doing it out greed and general incompetence. Calling Phil's head won't mean anything or do anything for MS. They'll still destroy regardless.

Chevalier12h ago

Damn idiots don't know how to read revenue reports. Revenue was due to folding in Activision Blizzard Revenue. They were up 61% due to Activision Blizzard with 62% increase. So they only went up 1% over last year. But idiots going to be idiots thinking Spencer is helping Xbox right now. Lol

Markusb334h ago

this is due to Activision and not their general output of quality titles,

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Jingsing7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It is funny that it was him finally touching Bethesda that was the straw that finally broke the camels back. They should have been calling for this years ago.

Markusb334h ago

im sure this is good for gamers, didnt Phil say that about scalebound ?

JackBNimble2h ago

You obviously don't know what literally means but ya , all console bosses need to accept accountability for their actions.

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Tacoboto20h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

Lightning7712h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Ninja Theory won't last after HB2. Because it won't hit some impossible metric in order to be a success at MS.

Expect NT to be gone in a years time also. Where the hells the advertising for Hellblade 2? Another MS issue they do to themselves bunch of clowns.

Tacoboto12h ago

Their first-announced Series game going out like this. Their marketing so far has just been a daily tweet or two the last week.

And now this will overshadow everything up till and through its release. Maybe Ninja Theory will get the same dignity as Tango and bow out with a better PS5 port.

Chevalier12h ago

Hellblade 2 out in 2 weeks and no one will even remember it by the beginning of June

RaidenBlack4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Unrelated but since there's a shortage of devs to make Fallout content ... MS could've asked Tango or Austin or both to make a new Fallout game (doesn't have to be a full-blown RPG) ... fans would've gobbled it up after watching Prime's FO season 2 ... and it would've been a nice experiment to check the feasibility of having Fallout venture into non-RPG genres (like it was done before during Interplay days).
This is what I would've guessed/suggested from past statements from Xbox & co., that you can experiment with new ideas (using new or existing IPs) at current Xbox ecosystem.
But ... after axing Tango & Austin ... don't know if Xbox is still open to such experimentations.

Chevalier12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Just watch Outer World's 2 also be dead on arrival without Playstation and Nintendo gamers buying that game you can expect Gamepass to kill that IP too. Ditto for making that contract to exclude Playstation gamers from getting Indiana Jones too. Remember how Tomb Raider sales were on Playstation after the 1 year exclusivity? Expect even worse for Indiana Jones too

mastershredder20h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner20h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-20h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman20h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto20h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds20h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal19h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin18h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

Lightning7712h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Phil's responsible for this generations mess. Phil was the one following orders under Steve Balmer and Don Mattrick.

Don even admitted he messed up on camera with the Xbox documentary

Let's keep the facts straight. Everything currently now is Phil's fault.

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