Sony Interactive Entertainment released a new commercial for the PS5, starring popular girl group Atarashii Gakko! and some of the console's newest games.
With uninspiring gameplay, hollow live service, platform restrictions, and being outclassed by Helldivers 2, Foamstars didn't stand a chance.
Played Foamstars for about 10 minutes, the presentation made it feel like game made for teenagers. All fluff and no substance.
The game was just flawed in concept. I don't know anyone that saw the initial trailer and thought they would really want to play it. No idea how they expected to build a large enough player base to sustain it.
I’m actually glad this game flopped hard even as a free game.. sony decided to go gun blazing with gaas since Ryan took over and turned out to be a terrible decision that made them cancel their gaas plans by canning a number of games, which explains the silence from sony at the moment
To be fair, it's not like anyone expected Helldivers 2 to be so successful. So that was not something Foamstars could have predicted. I had Helldivers 2 pre-ordered as soon as I was able. I just really loved the first game. But it felt like hardly anyone even knew the franchise existed before the second game actually released.
same, I played the 1st helldiver to death with my mates but ultimately it was a niche product and I certainly wasn’t expecting the sequel to be this popular.
This game was doomed from the start. Square's gaas track record is atrocious. They often times call it quits on these titles within the first year. Hard to get excited knowing that fact. Anyone half way paying attention to this avoided the game like the plague for that very reason.
Square Enix: "Why are we losing money? Why won't gamers buy our games in huge numbers? What's going on?"
Also Square Enix: *Forspoken, Foamstars, Babylon's Fall, mobile shit, makes limited FF Pixel Remaster copies for the PS4*
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth continues to chart among NPD best sellers, while Helldivers 2 stays above COD: MW3 in Year-to-Date sales revenue.
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Just checking-in to say I'm not part of "you all". Don't know who keeps buying that slop.
Yeah COD is more of a causal game, loads of people who aren't necessarily huge day one gamers buy it as their friends buy it and even if I haven't bought one in years, it is a game that's much more fun with groups of friends.
Good to see ff7 performing 🏆
HD2 smashing records! I hope it motivates other studios to bring on some decent similar games.
Also miss some good FPS
Two comments saying the sane thing. Mines down voted more lol
truth is we don't need more hd2 games
I really meant successful games.. but clearly no gaas. I didn’t buy it for that very reason. Apparently the gaas model isn’t bad in it so that helped with its success
Pretty sure all the people who agreed with you, knew what you meant. Including myself. 👍🏽
Okay. NOW can we stop with the whole 'Rebirth was a flop' chatter? Still selling remarkably well after two months.
It might have had a lower out of the gate sales than the first one, but kind of makes sense considering how front loaded I'm sure that one must have been, the anticipation was through the roof after many years and many teases of an actual remake.
This one will have long legs, I'm sure of it.
FF7R released to how many potential buyers compared to Rebirth? Sales figures be damned, it's still my game of the generation so far. I'd be surprised if it didn't end up being a good seller for Square, if it isn't then their expectations are probably far too high.
It's not a flop but Square isn't celebrating its sales one bit, and DD2 launched nearly a month later but outsold it immediately in the US. Who would've predicted that two months ago?
If you're Square, you're panicking, and that's why we got the news yesterday of them changing their approach to development.
Square traditionally has insane sales expectations. How will releasing this on XBOX that has moved so little consoles and historically moves so little Square titles help this game's sales?
There seems to be a deliberate dialogue that is trying to be spread that this game is a conmercial failure. Articles like these prove otherwise.
And by the way the third game will also be Sony console exclusive, this was confirmed already. I will be buying a PS6 for that.
There is so much misinformation, there was a double pack which in the first month contributed to around 40% of the total sales but that was rarely included or pointed out in charts like this.
The truth is it's sold on par when you consider that this game has released much earlier in the console cycle.
Isn't FF7 part 3 supposed to launch in 3 years or so? If it does, I can guarantee they'll release it on the PS5 to take advantage of that install base. They will not want to release on a fresh gen with a low install base.
They had been talking about their changes though for awhile. Well before rebirth released
Einhander1972
Absolutely but all the naysayers are forgetting this or flat-out leaving that info out because they have a motive.
Square announces cuts and cancellations and you all still defend them.
Why waste your energy when even Square won't?
Tacoboto 5h ago
Square announces cuts and cancellations and you all still defend them.
Why waste your energy when even Square won't?
You are misinformed, yes SquareEnix is making cuts but it's not because of Final Fantasy like everyone keeps trying to say, SquareEnix released a lot of games that failed, if you're determined to blame it on Sony it was Foamstars that really underperformed, but it's not just that, their remasters and remakes and other games have failed to sell well, Final Fantasy actually performed within estimations. I'm sure they hoped it would do better but it performed well within reasonable expectations.
And the thing that I always find stupid about these arguments is that Square Enix especially in Japan is much bigger and has far more exclusives on Switch.
People like you and the western media are always looking to point the finger at Sony and whatever game is tied to them and COMPLETELY ignore the bigger picture, and because gaming journalism is a literal joke, where no one does any research at all. It's all just a bunch of clown hacks who don't know what they are talking about and just say crap that will get clicks, then you repeat it.
... I've never once pointed the finger at Sony for Square's decisions. You don't even read what I write.
“ and DD2 launched nearly a month later but outsold it immediately in the US. Who would've predicted that two months ago?”
Uhh I don’t think anyone is surprised at all that a multiplatform release (PC, PS5, XS) of a highly anticipated sequel outsold an exclusively PS5 game. That’s hardly an even playing field. More like comparing apples to a fruit salad.
Xbox release wouldn't of helped. I think a PC release day one with it would be a better idea and they still got Sony exclusive money to help them cover things so I think it might not do brilliant but ok enough in the long term. FFXVI wasn't appreciated at the time but I see more people appreciating it now.
Square big problems is allocating a lot of their budgets on the right games like Foamstars, Forspoken and Babylons Fall should of never been developed. Square has always had management issues since the early PS years. Least Square Enix is better than the PS3/Xbox 360 generation in which they sucked.
Tacoboto10h ago
I've never once pointed the finger at Sony for Square's decisions. You don't even read what I write.
I copy pasted exactly what you wrote, and whether you specifically type "Sony" you are promoting the incorrect argument that is being presented by Microsoft and it's supporters to undermine and pressure Square Enix to break their relationship with Sony. That is what is happening whether you realize it or not.
Notice there is not a single word about how Final Fantasy 14 has seen basically zero growth and actually also had a slight decline after being put on game pass (behind a paywall and with extra Microsoft tax currencies).
I guarantee the costs to port a 10 year old MMO to another platform like xbox which is actually two platforms didn't come cheap and now involves extra expenses going forward.
It's always blaming Sony or whatever game is seen as tied to Sony with no actual bigger picture examination of what is actually going on and a direct effort to ignore any problems on the Microsoft or even Nintendo side of the equation.
Let's be real here... Square Enix has a poor financial report and every site under the sun has directly or indirectly tried to place that on Sony/Final Fantasy 16 and now Rebirth when it's obviously a bigger picture in reality.
Get it out of your head that I'm blaming Sony. Stop conflating and making things up and going on these weird long tangents based on what you *want* me to say. Weirdo.
You mean a game that released as a platform exclusive got outsold by a game released on multiple platforms? If you did the math and compared the sales proportionately to the install base, I think you'd find Rebirth out performed it.
I've been trying to tell people. Rebirth while a huge game was released in a very busy few months for jrpgs. I seen mad people say they'd get rebirth after granblue relink and others. It'll have legs.
Nobody said it was a flop prior to Square coming out and saying it under performed. Even then Square never said it flopped just didn’t perform up to expectations.
After calling sales of Tomb Raider a disappointment I’m not sure what they would consider a success.
Possibly GTA numbers?
I think what happened here is that VII part 1 did very well but within the pandemic and on PS4.
Rebirth is on PS5 and its not that strong compared to part 1.
I plan to get Rebirth but my backlog is to big for a 100 hour RPG so didn't buy it yet but I will. I think many others in the same situation.
think of it this way...why spend time in lesser quality games when you can be playing GOTY contender? ;)
I do like Rebirth but honestly so far my GOTY is Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth.
Rebirth has too many small annoyances that start to add up, becoming more tedious than anything else which is a shame because the storytelling, music and sense of place are fantastic.
GOTY? It's my game of the generation so far, then again I'm a huge FF fan but the game blew me away and far exceeded even my high expectations.
Koei Tecmo has revealed that Rise of the Ronin has gotten off to a solid start, with sales of the Team NINJA-developed PS5 already eclipsing the Nioh franchise.
Speaking in its latest financial report, the publisher revealed that “sales are surpassing the Nioh series” and noted that it has “high valuation by players.” No sales figures were divulged during the report, but clearly Rise of the Ronin is performing well just over a month since launch.
But I thought Rise Of The Ronin was a failure because it was an exclusive?
Gee wizz this is strange. It's outperforming the "Nioh" series in sales. I thought it was all doom and gloom on the sales front. I mean the Nioh series were considered a 'sales success' in the past. So how can this be with Ronin? /s
I can't trust any journalist any more. And I trust the corporate press releases even less.
@Eonjay
Hollywood Accounting. It's done all the time and it's been happening in gaming for awhile now. It's not new.
The statement I made said I don't trust corporation's press releases.
Not about how they use loopholes to manipulate tax codes and are technically "not lying."
Journalism is the most corrupt thing ever..
Mind control at its finest..
i am very glad to hear RoR is a success because Nioh sold a few millions on PS4 and PS5 combined.
I still want and hope to see Nioh3.
Team Ninja please do not forget Dead or Alive!
Data from Circana already shows the game debuted at number 5. We shall see if it continues the momentum in the soon-to-be-released April chart.
@thorstein
I get what your saying but just to be clear you don't believe "Rise Of The Ronin Sales Are ‘Surpassing The Nioh Series"?
I purchased Rise of Ronin and I'm enjoying the game but i liked Nioh and Nioh 2 much more and still play both and TBH I was hoping Rise of Robin was off on sales in hopes it would push Team Ninja to work on
Nioh 3 asap. Now I concede that's very selfish but I'm a fan what can I say and if you're a Souls game fan and have not played Nioh and Nioh 2 stop whatever your doing and purchase Nioh and jump in today. IMO I'd say Nioh is more difficult of the 2 only because in Nioh 2 you have more and better tools to plot through the game...... Nioh 3 can't come soon enough for me.
@Ra3030
No. Read the comment I replied to. That's what made me say what I said.
I believe that the game sold very well. There were articles trying to claim that it had failed. I am agreeing with the OP.
I too love the Souls games. I still own Demon's Souls PS3.
I want Rise, but I have such a backlog. NiOH, I was intrigued befits it launched and got out on Plus.
Actually, both FF16 and FF7Rebirth got decent sales. 3.5M+ millions sold is great, not as high as expected but still high. Haters really just want to look like they failed because it's exclusive to PS5.
I swear people on this site live in the smallest bubble. I've been doing this gaming thing for over 20 years. I'm almost 40. I've never once in my life heard a single person hate on one console or another. I've known plenty of people have preferences, sure. But never ever hate on it, or wish for a game to fail because it was an exclusive. That is just not reality. The only place that is reality is a few websites in forums on the internet. I guess if arguing and pledging allegiance to an electronic brand helps you pass the time, then so be it. But in the real world most people just want to play fun games.
@Swervecity
I wouldn't take this stuff that seriously. Hating on things and picking sides is fun. It's not the truth of a person and if it is that person might need more help than we can muster on a forum.
In related news:
“Koei Tecmo To Launch New AAA Studio To Develop Console Titles”
So yeh did ok I suppose!
I bought both but much preferred Ronin. Great game. Would be my GOTY so far if Stellar Blade hadn't come along and just completely blown everything else away.
Yes. I love the open world Tenchu vibes. Also enjoyed the blade twin though would have liked to switch back and forth between them both throughout the game (obviously couldn't for story reasons).
Love this, these girls are always so funny and energetic in their music videos.