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Microsoft Execs Considered Bringing Xbox Cloud Gaming On PS5 Through A Browser

Microsoft executives seemingly considered bringing Xbox Cloud Gaming to the Sony PlayStation 5 through a browser.

XiNatsuDragnel249d ago

If that happens xbox wouldn't be a console business no more imo.

Jin_Sakai249d ago

So much weird crap has come out from all this this. They honestly don’t know what the hell to do with Xbox.

fr0sty248d ago

This is where it is eventually heading, gamepass will go platform agnostic and MS will stop making hardware. The writing has been on the wall for years.

Fishy Fingers249d ago

Its no different to what they did with Apple when they wouldn't allow a proprietary Xcloud/gamepass app.

Xcloud by definition is the opposite of 'console business', its entire purpose is the lack of requirement for console/dedicated hardware. They want it on anything with a browser.

XiNatsuDragnel249d ago

Fair but putting xbox on your opps browser platform...? I think there's a sign.

OptimusDK248d ago

Funny how this is not supporting the narrative of Xbox just taking grants away from the read Activision blizzard

Rude-ro248d ago

It means steam could be, at any point, brought to consoles and Microsoft wants to be there first.
Outside of third party games, what in the world could Microsoft bring?
Ohhhh wait a minute.. Microsoft is buying up all the third party publishers.
Hmmm

XiNatsuDragnel248d ago

Good question 343 guilty spark aren't you ai for the halo construct?

Godmars290248d ago

Not really a console now. Not with the focus on GP or wanting to stream to phones and TVs.

Then there's inability to support their platform through in house resources. Needing to buy 3rd party.

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ApocalypseShadow249d ago (Edited 249d ago )

Can't say if that's a good thing having a limited browser or not. But it still does show the level of shadiness Microsoft would be willing to go to cut into Sony's sales behind the scenes...

Microsoft: "Damn! Sony is whooping our asses again. We have the most powerful console in the world and a smaller hardware footprint. And they are still beating our ass. Seems they could shape their console like a spacecraft and still kill us in sales. How do we stop this momentum?"

Top executive: " We could create more studios and beat them on high quality games."

Microsoft: " You're fired. Pack up your things. You.. you in the green shirt. What say you?"

All in the room: (they look puzzled as they are all wearing green except Phil in his gamer shirt.)

Microsoft: "Fine. (irritated) You with the mullet and the dark frames..."

Executive Mullet: "We could... we could buy up third parties that have made PlayStation a success and lock them out of those top games?"

Microsoft: "Yes. YES!! I like where you are going with this. Done! We buy the top players and take away games so that customers come to us. Hey you in the pony tail(Meeting Recorder), get on the phone and call the financial department for a meeting. We need to spend whatever it takes besides CANNIBALIZE our sales. Buy off congressmen if you have to. Who else?"

Executive playing with a Gears action figure: "Oh I know... we offer our services on Sony's console. That way, they'll be playing our games and not theirs. Like on the browser. Cutting into their profits as well."

Microsoft: "Promote this man too. Hmmm. Can Sony stop us or block the browser?"

Executive Gears: " Don't know but we'll look into it sir."

Microsoft: "Muaaahahaha!! Then, our control and domination of videogames will almost be complete. Has Nintendo stopped laughing and said yes yet? No? Then we'll play the long game until the time is right. Nintendo's future is off their hardware. Muaaahahaha!!!"

Meanwhile, Spider-Man 2 sells millions in its first month. The plot thickens...

IRetrouk248d ago

No, no it really doesn't lol, that comparison was so flawed he had to delete🤣🤣

DarkZane248d ago

In 2018, PSN was making more money than the Xbox and Nintendo entire gaming divisions combined. Yes, I am talking about just PSN, not the playstation division.

You seriously think Microsoft suddently started making this much more money when they're spending it left and right on Gamepass? Sorry no, in term of profits and revenues, Sony and Nintendo are likely far above them.

PunksOnN4G248d ago

Sony make 24mil last Q xbox mad 14mil and Nintendo made 16mil you xbox kids just latching on to tht fake charts that he removed cuz he made them up HAHAHAH

Barlos248d ago

Yet they're still number 3. Bottom of the pile.

Aloymetal248d ago

With trillions in the bank MS should be making more than PS but unfortunately for some that's not the case which makes MS even more embarrassing, pathetic and lame.
It's funny how when talking about xbox vs PS the "But MS has more money than Sony" always comes to the conversation but games are not in it lmao

PhillyDonJawn248d ago

@Aloy literally, absolutely no one, mentioned MS. Lol you completely made something up something in your head

shinoff2183248d ago

Jawn, by saying Xbox you brought ms up.

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-Foxtrot249d ago (Edited 249d ago )

Jeez. Why don’t they just go third party? Seriously if they are willing to go this far then it’s just desperation to hang into the console market so you don’t look like a failure by sneaking around.

Sony would be way more open to have some kind of deal for Gamepass to be on PlayStation if MS were openly third party and releasing games from Zenixmax / Activision and especially MS first party on their console

They probably wouldn’t have an issue

Godmars290248d ago

Cause they want their fingers in ALL of the pies.

Think at this point MS makes more money through patients (which they bought) and intercorporate subscriptions (Like the disc format for BR during the BR/HD-DVD 'war') than selling products to consumers.

-Foxtrot248d ago

"Cause they want their fingers in ALL of the pies"

And that sadly will be their downfall...

Godmars290248d ago (Edited 248d ago )

Except currently they have their fingers in most of the pies. Even with the Activision deal going through, the next Xbox likely digital only, the consoles done. Will likely eventually reduced to an app that may one day be on a Playstation or Nintendo box while MS makes more off Candy Crush. If that's still a thing by then.

Key issue neither they nor fanbase keep dismissing is the death of creativity under Xbox. COD and Overwatch were only fading before all this, and hell, no remembers during the 360 era talk starting of the industry being dead before the Switch and PS4 revived it like nothing happened.

The best thing MS can do for the industry is leave, thought again with the Activision sale that seems unlikely.

@Foxtrot:
"Even that was based off what the Dreamcast tried to do"

Naw. Sega was out the door regardless due to mismanagement. And neither Sony or Nintendo seemed all that interested in online for consoles. Likely might have tried implementing a gen or two later at best. MS quickened the process.

anast248d ago

It would make sense for Xbox to drop consoles and just be a service provider. Their acquisitions will not translate to any meaningful console sales and they are seeing this with Starfield.

OptimusDK248d ago

Really 😂 where do you see that

anast248d ago

If you want to know, you will need to ask a question.

Aloymetal248d ago

Best thing that would happen to the gaming industry, the gaming industry was fine before MS/xbox and it will continue to be fine after they're gone.

anast248d ago

For sure. They would make a decent service provider for people that like that type of thing.

Godmars290248d ago

The one "good" thing they did was online. Even with the "put it out - maybe - patch it later" mentality that's allowed.

-Foxtrot248d ago

@Godmars290

Even that was based off what the Dreamcast tried to do

If Microsoft didn't get into the console market and SEGA never failed they'd have probably expanded on their online ideas.

badz149248d ago

through a browser...sure and make the PS5 wide open to hacks!

Sony would be SO happy! /s

ocelot07248d ago

PS4 had a browser? So did the PS3. Ps5 has one but it's sort of hidden. Gamepass xcloud can be used and play on a browser it's the beauty of xcloud.

shinoff2183248d ago

No one wants to use the cloud lol. When I get an option to stream or download I'm picking download 100 percent of the time.

With that said I'm pretty sure I see sarcasm in your post now.

ocelot07248d ago

Well at the moment in time I I'm solely using the cloud and remote play. I don't have much access to my pc and it not get access to my ps5 or Xbox series X at night when my baby goes to bed.

So during the day I I'm currently using a backbone controller and a phone. I have been playing Starfield via gamepass xcloud with zero issues.

I have also been using remote play for my ps5 to play and fully complete and platinum Spiderman Miles Moralas. Also works great.

Not saying cloud gaming is taking over. But saying nobody wants to use the cloud is simply not true. Backbone is doing great because of streaming. If no one was using cloud gaming then Nvidia Geforce now or xcloud or Sony's Cloud gaming just wouldn't be around.

badz149248d ago

@ocelot07

check the PS4 hacking scene or even the Switch hacking scene, you'll see how easy it is to hack consoles through browsers.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

anast1d 16h ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor23h ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic23h ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor22h ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

Kornholic3h ago

So you are that saying Steam is being very anti consumer with its policies. That's why I'm so baffled by the lack of outcry from the PC audience.

NotoriousWhiz22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

anast20h ago

PC gamers are a different lot. They don't mind renting their games forever, they don't mind spending money on overpriced equipment, and they don't mind fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game, but linking a PSN account demands a riot. This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

Skuletor19h ago

You sure talk a lot of nonsense.Go look up the percentage of digital sales compared to physical sales of PS5 games, then tell me again about "renting" games.

mandf18h ago

Overblown funny and 100percent true

anast18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

There is no option at all to buy a physical copy of a PC game... And more people game on consoles for the reasons that make PC gamers a different lot.

VIK212116h ago

it's not so much the linking but the fact that certain countries aren't allowed to access psn...

VIK212116h ago

@anast I have a disc ps5 since launch, initially I bought some disc games, but I can't be bothered to walk to a physical store nowadays... I just buy the titles when they go on special sale or gray market store like CDKeys...

DustMan16h ago

PSN was a different story altogether. It kept people who bought the game from playing in countries that PSN wasn't supported. I never understood the issue anyway.

I don't know if PC stuff is overpriced considering that you can buy a new video card with the same amount of money you'd spend over 5 or 6 years paying to play games online with a console. I'll never pay double to use the same connection. That is what I'll never understand about console gamers. "let me pay an extra hundred & twenty dollars a year to use the same internet I pay for monthly and use on literally every device in my home for free....except for my Playstation"

Extermin8or3_15h ago

@Skuletor about 50-60% of sales are digital for most games. Meaning 40-50% are physical....

anast15h ago

@VIK

You might not but you are not the expectation that creates a universal.

Skuletor14h ago

@Extermin8or3_
Right and where are you getting that information from?
https://www.statista.com/st...

@anast

"Renting games"
In the fourth fiscal quarter of 2023, approximately 77 percent of Sony Corporation's PlayStation gaming sales were generated via digital downloads.

"overpriced equipment"
Some people are willing to pay a premium for better performance, the way you keep talking about the PS5 Pro on N4G proves you're a hypocrite in that regard but whatever, lol

"fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game"
Most pc games will give the option to scan your system to choose recommended settings or start with moderate settings that will run the game fine but you're free to mess around at your own leisure, to improve performance or quality if you wish to. For those that don't want to, there's free software that can do that for you, such as Nvidia's Geforce or AMD's AMD Catalyst. Geforce Experience even gives you the option of choosing whether to prioritize performance vs image quality with a simple slider for easy optimization, it's not rocket science, like you try make it out to be.

"linking a PSN account demands a riot"
Playstation selling Helldivers 2 in regions without the legal means to create a PSN account by Sony's own standards, then telling people in those regions that already bought the game that they can no longer play the game, isn't a cause for concern? Though you've already heard about that but keep going along with your own narrative because of your weird vendetta against PC on here.

This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

PRIMORDUS9h ago

I don't rent I torrent to keep, if they take them down that's ok I don't care I have them LOL. I do buy PC games but very little as I want full control which is why I torrent to keep them in my collection, and I do not give a fuck what the devs or publishers want. I never did never will.

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thorstein22h ago

So just give your progeny the passwords.

OtterX21h ago

Keep the password sealed in the Will, only to be opened after death. :)

Aphrodia19h ago

Right? How are they gonna know you are dead?

FinalFantasyFanatic16h ago

The only way they will know is when an account is active for 300 years, lol.

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[Exclusive] Xbox Reaches Agreement With Batman: Arkham Trilogy Creators For A New AAA Game

Ex-Rocksteady directors' Hundred Star is collaborating with Xbox Game Studios Publishing for its first-ever AAA game.

Lightning771d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Highly doubt it'll be an actual Batman game that IP belongs to WB Games along with other DC property.

They're making an action adventure game. IMO I think it needs to be another Marvel game despite MS already have Blade as that action Marvel game. Dead Pool? Punisher?

Realistically it'll probably be a new IP entirely.

The_Hooligan1d 10h ago

I agree with you. I think I'll be a brand new IP. Now it could be a superhero themed, kind of like infamous. Speaking of which, Suckerpunch needs to make one after Ghost 2.

neutralgamer19921d 10h ago

would love a infamous collection for ps5/pc

Lightning771d 9h ago

I definitely think it'll be super hero themed game 100%. Something MS needs in their portfolio.

ThinkThink1d 7h ago

Please, no more super hero games.

PhillyDonJawn1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Dead Pool or Punisher would be amazing!!!
Don't tease me like that man lol. I see them making a new IP that's like an arkham knight clone

Dirty_Lemons1d 3h ago

I loved the old Punisher game back in the day. Those executions never got old.

porkChop1d 2h ago

I don't think it needs to be Marvel. It needs to be a totally new IP. That's what Rocksteady should have done after Arkham City. They've pigeonholed themselves as DC devs.

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MIDGETonSTILTS171d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I hope these devs needed support to start/finish (like Stalker 2), vs are basically done with the game but wanted to secure an exclusivity-bonus because they know Xbox needs a system seller (like Titanfall).

It’s a bit strange that they’d rather invest in this game than Tangoworks’ TWO canceled projects; or just trust a single dev from their existing massive stable of talent to emerge with a system-seller themselves anytime soon.

Either way, it is just cool that we’ll likely get a new IP from the geniuses behind the Arkham Trilogy. I wonder how creative they’ll get now that they aren’t married to an established franchise.

darthv721d 10h ago

This is about the former co-founders of Rocksteady and their new studio. So naturally it makes people think its Batman related with the way its worded, even though its not.

-Foxtrot1d 9h ago

Exclusive? Sure

This year alone Microsoft has changed their plans so much with Xbox regarding multiplatform releases as they step closer to just being a full blown third party publisher and it's only been 4-5 months, imagine where we'll be once this game is finished. It will be a completely different landscape.

ThinkThink1d 7h ago

I don't think MS will ever go completely full 3rd party with all of their games. I can see them looking towards expanding their own mobile store and moving into Mac as ways of expanding. I'm sure ms will bring more exclusives over to ps and nintendo, but I don't think it'll be as many games as you think it will. I hope I'm wrong.

Lightning771d 6h ago

The ever contradictions thoughts and actions of MS definitely says otherwise MS changed up so much on the past 6 months of the year I lost count.

Though I'm more declined to believe they also won't go full 3rd party also.

But.

This year they're having Renaissance a super bowl of gaming with Gamepass this year. BO6, older ABK games, Avowed, Indy and other 3rd party exclusives all to grow and expand gamepass. If these games don't grow the service or grow only a little bit. Then you can fully expect MS to hit the red button and put everything everywhere. Satya will have full Xbox take over doing what he wants from that point on next year.

It's up to Xbox to advertise these games and gamepass in the next 6 months or so get the word out.

Profchaos1d 6h ago

The more the news evolves the more I'm inclined to believe we will see MS embrace full third party status but not call it third party in their word soup ways.

It will be Xbox everywhere plays best on a Xbox.

Next gen Xbox is rumoured to be a reference design similar to the 3d0 where any company can make and sell it.

If you're offloading hardware costs to a third party yet still profiting from the games then you've cut out losses on the hardware you still have a store front that users can use and still make a 30 percent cut on that.

Your games sell for a profit on PS and Nintendo platforms and on Xbox reference hardware along with PC

You lose .kney on DLC and games sold on a competitor storefront they are seemingly already comfortable with this.

The ms bean counters are coming for the ROI that was promised they don't care if they kill the brand as it stands Xbox was never a profitable business it was always just done for reputation

PhillyDonJawn1d 6h ago

@Lightning the would end the console then. No one would buy Xbox over PS at that point cause now you get both with just a PS. If GP flop for them, Logically, rolling back on GP would be the smarter than to do. No more day 1 title. Less quality titles. They'd lose subs but people would go back to buying the games.

Lightning771d 4h ago

@Philly They could scale back gamepass put Indies only, AAA 1st party games coming 4 to 6 months from release. The thing is MS will have to tell their fans to buy their games again and that's gonna take years and years to condition them to buy games again. MS will lose money from that also. They'll lose out on gamepass revenue, lose out on games sales because their fans don't buy as many games anymore.

I can't see them scaling back or axing gamepass it does make them allot of money, they just want more money from it. They're not gonna condition their fans to start buying games either.

As I said they'll go full 3rd party and yes you ate right, if they do that then there would be no reason to buy the next Xbox. I know j won't be, you better hope the next 6 months they advertise the games and GP there little hearts out because this could be it.

ThinkThink16h ago

Like, I can see them porting flight simulator, but not the Forza games.

I can see them porting state of decay 3, but not halo or gears.

I think sony will get blade, doom and elder scrolls 6, but not perfect dark or fable.

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purple1011d 8h ago

Spawn (as well as master chief) are the only characters I associate with Xbox. Are there more I can’t remember?

rlow11d 8h ago

Gears is another big game one.

purple1011d 8h ago

Yeh big game, do you know the name of the lead character. Or team of lead characters. I don’t

rlow11d 7h ago

Marcus, Dom, Cole Train. And I can’t remember the fourth.

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Also the chick from gears 5 seems to pop up on all their modern advertising I can't remember her name either.

Cars also feature heavily in a Xbox ad it's always master chief front and centre with cars and maybe a gears character hanging around

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

-Foxtrot2d ago

RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga1d 15h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

repsahj1d 4h ago

RE Zero is one of my favorite game on gamecube!

Knightofelemia2d ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord1d 20h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame8181d 12h ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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