Final Fantasy XIV Announced for Xbox Series X|S; Square Enix Plans to Bring More Games to Xbox

Today Square Enix and Microsoft announced that Final Fantasy XIV is finally coming to Xbox with cross-play support with existing platforms.

[sparky77]

Good guy Phil strikes again.

I bet we will be seeing FF7R, Rebirth and FF16 announced soon too.

[Vengeance1138]

lol keep dreaming. It makes sense for FF14 as it's online and needs players to run but single player games? Nope.

[sparky77]

This is coming from SE's new CEO who clearly is done with keeping games exclusive. You can laugh now, but those games and future FF games are a matter of when they come to Xbox not if they ever do.

[blackblades]

They were never exclusive, FF7R was a time exclusive so is FF16. So i wont be surprised if they did get FF7R sooner or later and FF16 maybe in 3 years or so.

Also @Sparky shut up with Good guy Phil strikes again nonesense.

[Elda]

Those games have been on PS forever now & most PS owners have played those games already, nothing wrong with XB finally getting those old games.

[wesnytsfs]

@Elda, agreed, I hope Microoft releases Starfield and Elder Scroll a few years after release when xbox owners have already played it so PS fans can enjoy them too.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

What would make you think Rebirth would be announced soon on Xbox when it's not even out on PS5? Or 16 for that matter when it's all of a month old.

[sparky77]

FF7R I expect soon, the others will likely come after Sony's deals have expired.

[Christopher]

***This is coming from SE's new CEO who clearly is done with keeping games exclusive.***

Which is it? Good guy Phil or Good guy new SE CEO?

Personally, this is why third-parties need to stay third-party. In the end, players win and decisions are aimed at mass market and not supporting their own hardware and platforms.

[sparky77]

It's both obviously, Phil for starting the conversation and the new CEO for not being Sony's lap dog anymore.

[tay8701]

So it's OK for MS to buy up bethesda and abk, but somehow it's not right sony has exclusive 3rd party games? Yah that makes alot of sense

[derek]

Blah blah blah the new ceo blah blah blah. Only recently did square stop putting ff on Xbox because it's a console nobody wants who's player base doesn't buy games. They give the xbox community a 10 year old game and suddenly ff is great again for xbox fans, lol. I suspect all the trashing online of ff16 with suddenly die down.

[wiz7191]

@Tay I don’t think ppl have any issues with Sony buying studios or times exclusives .. the problem comes when Sony fans pretend that they don’t and they build up all their studios or games. At lease that the problem with me , honestly some deals needs to happen to help fund some of these games and studios that couldn’t afford it otherwise.

[Flakegriffin]

Probably after 13 years like FF XIV.

[ironmonkey]

Those dreams have been lasting quite a while huh?

[shinoff2183]

Relax sparky I think your getting ahead of yourself. My guess is ms went over there with a big ass apology for whatever they did to piss off square

Here's an idea xbox guys , buy the fking games now if they come

[Gamerscore2077]

It’s business, so it definitely was a check cut.

I’m interested to see whenever (if ever) titles like FF 16 will run on the Series S?

[wiz7191]

@Shinoff why is it the ppl assume that Xbox gamers weren’t buying their games in the first place ?? Maybe they didn’t apologize for anything .. No company is going to do a thing if money isn’t involved , so Sony making it lucrative to keep current FF games exclusive is most likely the situation. The situation is the fact Xbox has to sell more consoles to make it lucrative for square to make the effort to develop on Xbox , also given the extra work for Series S development.

[neutralgamer1992]

More good games for gamers

Enjoy

[Abracadabra]

Square received money from Sony... now they receive money from Microsoft.

[gold_drake]

they're exclusive.

so no. probably not

Remake maybe.

but lets be real for a sec, Phil probably pumped them with money. that doesnt mean that the games do well. the fanbase is on ps and nintendo. just what it is.

[Gamerscore2077]

There definitely was some money involved, it’s a business after all. We have to see how the Xbox fans are going to respond to this title.

At the end of day it’s going to come down to how much units they’re selling on Xbox platforms.

[Sonic1881]

I agree unless Sony buys square Enix in the future

[Gamerscore2077]

I know you’re excited, but don’t jump gun here. Rebirth & FF16 will come on PC way before it comes onto the Series X|S. Also, MS forcing devs to make titles for the Series S is going to be incredibly difficult for SE, so taxing games like FF 16 may not come at all.

I think we may see FF7R (maybe), but you have to keep in mind that FF 14 is decade old online MMO. So SE, bringing this over to Xbox makes since. We may also see the original FF games come over, but who knows.

This is test for the Xbox community, SE is going to see how well the community responds to FF 14. Keep in mind that there’s a monthly subscription, on top of the asking price for this game. So it’s high possibility that may turn a lot off ppl away from the Xbox side, especially the ones that are obsessed with Gamepass.

[Muigi]

Lol PS5 has doubled the sales of Xbox this gen…again. Y’all need all the games you can get.

[1Victor]

@sparky:”I bet we will be seeing FF7R, Rebirth and FF16 announced soon too.”
Seriously when did you started gaming?
Square don’t care about any console they’ll jump ship faster than a rat on a sinking ship if a console is favorable to their game like they did to Nintendo for FF7 when they jumped to PS for the disk storage or for money during the 360 era and now this 🤷🏿 but yeah “ good guy Phil” get the credit for everything good and the pass for anything bad.

[zekk]

I'm not sure they'll be able to optimize it for the series s. And if they could who know if the cost benefit would be worth it

[neomahi]

Not soon, but with Xbox flashing around Microsoft's money, anything is possible at this point. Phil Spencer is tired of losing. His gaming division has been going down the toilet because Xbox are all incompetent, notice I said he's spending Microsoft's money, because Xbox on their own wouldn't have that kind of money but, you could be right at this stage. Microsoft doesn't want to lose so, they'll do whatever it takes. Within the next year? Probably not, for FF16 or Rebirth, but you could see Final Fantasy 7 Remake about 6 months after FF14.

Responders to Sparky77, you guys can't be ignorant enough to think that Xbox won't spend money at this point and money talks. The development community just watched Xbox spend $70 billion and they want a taste of that. That's what this has come to and what we're going to see from here on out. That's the precedent the world set. The FTC saw a huge amount of money spent and said: This isn't right, something needs to be done. But they presented their case as Call of Duty, which was the problem, NOT "Hey, nobody has this kind of money to go into a bidding war with Microsoft. Nintendo doesn't have $70 billion to throw down like that, that's not good for competition if you're going to lose over and over because you don't have the money, that doesn't promote competition, that leads to a monopoly because nobody else can compete. Activision wasn't even worth that, but Xbox knew neither Sony nor Nintendo could compete with Xbox's bottomless pockets. Sony couldn't have even competed with that, that's the problem, but the precedent has been set now. Everyone applauded Microsoft, whose known for being the schoolyard bully that produces defective everything but, you can't compete with bottomless pockets. Apple gave up challenging Microsoft when Jobs died so..... Here we go. Now its about who has the most money

[autobotdan]

Finally

[Abriael]

Funnily, I am positive I was the first to ask Yoshida-san about an Xbox version of Final Fantasy XIV in an interview all the way back in 2014. Happy to see it's finally happening.
Fairly sure he's happy he has revealed it now, at least that means I'm gonna stop asking.😂

[Soulsborne]

Imagine trying to flex with this.... go outside.

[Abriael]

Imagine thinking that a fun memory is a flex. Go touch grass.

[Vx_]

I believe it was a problem by Microsoft because they refused cross play with other systems, but Finley the bowed down to SE demand for this to be on the Xbox.

[PunksOnN4G]

Great now we have to deal with xbox kids port begging more for FF16 and 7R LOL. What was the saying. If you want to play the Title buy a Ps5.. If i remember from the xbox kids.

[Aloymetal]

Don't worry, I think 200 xbox players will be playing these games.

[The3faces]

Why should Xbox players have to buy a PS5 for FF16 and FF7 remake? Square Enix is a third party publisher after all.

[PunksOnN4G]

The Point The Point

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[GeeEssEff]

The exact same reason I had to buy an Xbox to play Bethesda games.

[Lightning77]

What's wrong with Xbox gamers wanting to play Final Fantasy games?

[ironmonkey]

Because you'll prob get like 5 people playing it?

[Prem8tuaProcrastin8a]

"Xbox kids port begging"? Talk about projection. Ive never seen xbox fans start "change.org" petitions to bring sony 1st party games to xbox, like sony fanboys have done with starfield. I've also never seen xbox fans start petitions to make a developer stop developing a game because "they don't deserve it", as sony fanboys did with Hideo Kojimas new xbox exclusive. Games like FF16 and 7R aren't 1st party exclusives that sony had anything to do with developing, and never have been. They were 3rd party multiplats until Sony approached SE and did a backroom deal and paid to prevent release on other consoles. Something that ps fanboys were up in arms about when xbox signed a similar deal with SE for ROTTR timed exclusivity.

[ocelot07]

Only took like 12 years lol. If only Microsoft would of just agreed to crossplay all those years ago hehe.

[Magic_Spatula]

I dunno why you got downvoted but that was one of the reasons why it was never on Xbox. Microsoft back then when they were market leaders didn't want crossplay between Xbox and PlayStation players. On top of that, Microsoft wanted people to pay for Xbox live while being subscribed to FFXIV too and that didn't fly with Yoshi P. He didn't want people to pay two different subscriptions just to play a game.

[maniacmayhem]

Those Sony checks could only last for so long.

Going to be hype seeing Final Fantasy the Norteno Edition come to Xbox.

Good to see that Square isn't abandoning Xbox, even though we were told by, "experts" they were due to low sales on the platform.

[CBaoth]

spot on....square assuredly loves those 250-300k copies it'll sell on MS consoles. Would be pretty sad if Square thought those copies wouldn't cover the cost of porting the IP (like the Hive have said). Just wonder how many of the trailer park neckbeards will shell out coin or wait for it to come to their series G via GamePass? Square's signed up for the experiment, can't wait for the results!

[goldwyncq]

Sad what loyalty to a plastic toy will lead people to say. Just enjoy your games, man.

[Lightning77]

You're that angry? Imagine being this mad because another fanbase gets to play it.

Pretty immature being this mad don't you think?

[Hypertension140]

@Lighting

If Microsoft announced that all Bethesda/Activision games are now coming to playstation you'll be pretty upset won't you.

I can predict your response, "but Microsoft owns them now" or "Microsoft needs exclusives" my favorites "it is what it is/Sony poke the sleeping giant".

Doesn't matter how it happens, that goes for Sony too. Nobody should be allowed to keep decades old IP form the competion, its crazy that nobody is noticing Microsoft doing it much worse.

So you don't want Sony to acquire a publisher, ok fine, what do YOU suggest they do to complete now.

[Lightning77]

"If Microsoft announced that all Bethesda/Activision games are now coming to playstation you'll be pretty upset won't you."

Yeah I don't get upset over that sorta stuff like that so I wouldn't lose sleep like I know Xbox fans and fan boys would.

"I can predict your response, "but Microsoft owns them now" or "Microsoft needs exclusives" my favorites "it is what it is/Sony poke the sleeping giant".

That would be a strange reactionary response if MS said all their acquisitions are not exclusive. You make it sound like Xbox fans are cool with it or something.

"So you don't want Sony to acquire a publisher, ok fine, what do YOU suggest they do to complete now."

For starters this a weird response you act like Sony owns these IP or something. They don't and never have btw. Sony needs to continue to do what they're doing now. Invest more into first party stuff.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Looks another lie by Phib Spencer strikes again. So much for games being "forever exclusive" to PlayStation.

[maniacmayhem]

Too funny, the whole ABK deal has really broken you down to these basic, bottom N4G style comments. How the mighty have fallen.

When did Phil say this game was going to be forever on Playstation and when was it ever up to him?

Don't answer that, it wouldn't of any substance anyways.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

You're missing my point. And I'll continue to phrase my points in "basic, bottom N4G style comments" for as long as I want! Not everything is due to Sony blocking MS from getting games. They said they are committed to bringing more games to Xbox, so let's see what games come to Xbox later. *Spoiler* Don't be surprised if any of the games that were deemed "forever exclusive" to PlayStation makes there way on to Xbox which shouldn't be surprising given Phil's history on the lie detector tests.

[maniacmayhem]

No, I'm not missing your point because you don't have one. Your whole comment reeks of "gotta talk about MS too".

*Not everything is due to Sony blocking MS from getting games.*

Except in most cases it is, including the latest FF and other Square games.

*deemed "forever exclusive" to PlayStation makes there way on to Xbox*

Which are? This is exactly what I mean by no substance. How long do we have to wait to see if you're right?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

"Your whole comment reeks of "gotta talk about MS too"."

Didn't realize this was a Sony only article...

"Except in most cases it is, including the latest FF and other Square games."

Except in this case it wasn't but that didn't stop you from saying this "Those Sony checks could only last for so long." Now did it....

"Which are? This is exactly what I mean by no substance."

Since you don't know how to google... https://www.windowscentral....

"How long do we have to wait to see if you're right?"

If I worked for SE I could tell you. Given that FF16 is 6 months timed, I'd say there's a good possibility that comes to Xbox eventually despite it apparently being forever exclusive to PlayStation.

[ravens52]

I thought the consensus was that Sony was keeping these games away from Xbox lol...
Cool tho, that's good. More people get to play their games. 👏🏽

[Magic_Spatula]

Sony never did. It was a Square decision because back then, Microsoft didn't want crossplay and they also wanted people to pay for Xbox Live for ANY online game. Yoshi P didn't want people to pay two subscriptions just to play the game. I'm all for more people getting to experience what a great game FF14 is.

[TriniOutsider]

I've heard this story before. Watch a few games drop on Xbox and then disappear. All that crying Phil did about being in 3rd place is paying off for him now.

[Falloutxii]

Good news, congrats to the 5 people that will play final fantasy on their xbox.

[raWfodog]

I was curious as to how many GP subscribers would also be willing to shell out the monthly subscription for this game as well (once they are done with the free-trial period). I'm pretty sure SE is not having making this game available on GP, right?

[Goosejuice]

It's not on gp so they will have to buy the game and also sub to it. So don't expect a lot of xbox players

[PapaBop]

There is a reason why it dethroned WoW, many people are happy to subscribe. I've been subbed for it consecutively for at least three to four years now, the game has so much to do and the community always keep it entertaining.

[thesoftware730]

Nice...I'll check out the Open Beta.

I played FF11 Online for like 3 years back in the day. I tried 14, but never checked out RR revamp.

Why do all the article say 4k update? Is the PS version not updated?

[Goosejuice]

Ps version is updated. Not sure why it says that.

[raWfodog]

"...with faster loading and 4K support on Series X."

I believe it's just specifying that 4K will be on Series X only, and not the S.

[thesoftware730]

Ok, that makes sense lol.

I could have just googled it...your reasoning make sense.

[Popsicle]

So Xbox self described “next gen” base console cannot run a 13 year old game at 4K.

The casual consumer sees Xbox a a console brand, but Xbox doesn’t want to be a console brand. They want to be a subscription brand. Always chasing what the consumer doesn’t ask for.

I am glad an FF game is coming to Xbox for more players to enjoy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Series sku are the last consoles Xbox ever produces.

[Ps5conehead]

Stop your Sony bashing . You knows it ment 4k. For x not s . You had to bash ps5 again

[thesoftware730]

What? PS5 bashing? Wow , you people on here are really on another level...

The PS5 version is exactly the same as raw pointed out to me..how in blue hell could that be bashing...it was a question for christ sake.

I comment here a lot less than I use to because of posters like you, it's become exhausting.

For example, I read the article on IGN first.

"Final Fantasy 14 Announced for Xbox With 4K Support, Open Beta Confirmed"

That is literally the headline, it does not say SS or SX,, that is why I asked... sheesh.

[Battlestar23]

'Square Enix Plans to Bring More Games to Xbox'

Hope this means that they will not be accepting anymore of Sony's Cheques for temporary exclusives anymore and start treating the rest of the gaming community with respect and release all their games on Xbox Day 1.

Also according to several journalists on twitter this deal means all SE releases on Xbox will be Day 1 gamepass too. Which i hope it true as thanks to gamepass i don't really like having to pay for games anymore since MS foots the bill for us Xbox Owners.

I also hope this means that SE has cancelled the deal between Sony and FF7R and Part 2/3 will release Day 1 on Xbox too. Sony shouldn't be aloud to be making deals for exclusives it's not fair to the gaming community.

[Goosejuice]

Ah yes...no more deals. Does that mean stalker 2, or the upcoming rumored rpg from Io interactive should also be on ps day 1? Or u just don't want sony to have any exclusives deals while MS keeps making them as well?
And please show me anything that says these r coming to GP. Even this game is not coming to GP so I guess that kinda shoots down what ur saying.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Goosejuice

"Ah yes...no more deals. Does that mean stalker 2, or the upcoming rumored rpg from Io interactive should also be on ps day 1?"

IO Interactive´s upcoming RPG is not a third party game made exclusive to Xbox. It´s an Xbox first party IP produced by that studio. You got a point regarding S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 though.

[thesoftware730]

Battle you sure do have a lot of hopes lol.

Hoping ALL releases will go to GP is a longshot, unless you mean already release back catalog of games that they may bring to Xbox, anything new I highly doubt it.

[P_Bomb]

“…thanks to gamepass i don't really like having to pay for games anymore since MS foots the bill for us Xbox Owners”

I doubt they’ll foot the monthly fee for FF14. A Realm Reborn and Heavensward are already free.

[shinoff2183]

Stop it lol. Are you just as concerned with ms 3rd party exclusives

[Magic_Spatula]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sony kinda front some money for development of FF7R like they did with Street FIghter 5? Probably remembering it wrong. Also, Square accepted that Epic Games check to keep the PC version of FF7R exclusive for 6 months. Also the check for Strangers of Paradise timed exclusivity too. Square only stopped exclusivity on PC because they realized with FF7R on Steam, they could double dip and get even more money. They had to audacity to release a year and a half old game for $70 on Steam and people still bought it up.

[raWfodog]

Nope, there will still likely be exclusive PS games going forward, even if they are timed.

“ He also added that Square Enix plans to bring its games to Xbox platforms "whenever possible" for players around the world to enjoy.”

[autobotdan]

I will buy all the decent square enix jrpgs on xbox in 2024. Last one i purchased was Star Ocean the Divine Force. Great jrpg on my xbox series x. Welcome back Square Enix. My money has been waiting

[P_Bomb]

I recommend the FF Pixel Remasters. They’re frickin’ lovely! Pretty sure they’ll come to XB now…

[shinoff2183]

You and about 24 other people

[djl3485]

Divine Force was not a great jrpg.......

[autobotdan]

For you.......

[TheColbertinator]

That's great. I liked FFXIV

[Miraak82]

No surprise , they pretty much said this would be the case like over 2 years ago when or around the time they first announced the upcoming graphics update .

[Lightning77]

Hmm notice this comes after the ABK debacle. Clearly this whole ABK stuff really exposed industry practices to the light, to regulator officials.

Hopefully this gives a fair shot at popular 3rd party games on other platforms in the future.

[AdonisIsBeast]

Wowwwwww. Sony is clearly not acquiring them after this move. They really are dirt cheap when it comes to paying for IP

[gold_drake]

yeh square's always been like that unfortunately haha.

[AdonisIsBeast]

No i’m saying Sony is cheap. They think they’re too good to acquire a major publisher which would have IP far greater than anything that they currently do. Sony’s best IP have been made by 3rd party studios. Bloodborne being one of them

[shaenoide]

I thought Sony made a deal with Squix to keep games from XBOX ? So it was bullshit then ?

[Lightning77]

Definitely not. Again I think after the ABK stuff industry practices could change going forward. I've noticed Sony isn't announcing its 3rd games like they usually do. They were weirdly absent at the showcase and opted to announce 3rd party that's hitting Xbox also. Third party I noticed are being revealed themselves lately or advertising themselves with out Sony.

After the files, transcripts and hearings what I got from it is that 3rd party deals have and are not illegal. Clearly if they were then Nintendo and Sega would of gotten hit with lawsuits and illegal practices time after time after time again. However with Sony's position in the market and doing strong arming 3rd party exclusive tactics that kept the competition from growing according to the judge.

I know during the 7th gen when MS was money hatting everyone in sight (though they should put that money in 1st party studio growth instead ) Xbox and Sony were comparable in sales at the time with PS having a much smaller lead in sales compared to now so making those deals would actually be encouraged because both being competing at that time. Again 3rd party deals are not illegal not once did the judge say that but again, when you're market leader and paying popular titles to keep it off of other platforms is what they have an issue with. Maybe Sony is letting off the heat which allowed this announcement? If this ABK stuff never went down FF games would never be coming to the Xbox there's no way this was a coincidence.

And hey you can say PS is beating Xbox so bad regulators are stepping in and saying "Hey Sony, let off their neck and let them get a swing for once!"

[Plague-Doctor27]

"If this ABK stuff never went down FF games would never be coming to the Xbox there's no way this was a coincidence."

Ff14 is a nearly 13 year old game that SE has been trying to bring to Xbox for years. The hold up was always that Xbox didn't want to play nice with crossplay. They didn't want people across different platforms to be able to chat or form communities (guilds, linkshells in FF14). The FF14 team didnt want to split the community and said they won't make the game until those policies change.

FF14 coming to Xbox is because Microsoft changed these policies. It has nothing to do with Sony or the ABK acquisition

[Chevalier]

Nah same bullshit excuses by idiots thinking Playstation can outbid Xbox which is absolutely 💯 ridiculous.

[Lightning77]

@Plague MS changed these policies awhile ago. Like 10 years now? So what was the hold up this whole time?

[babadivad]

Cool

[DarthZoolu]

I couldn’t care less!

[jwillj2k4]

Can’t wait for those terrible sales numbers to prove once again Xboxes don’t like to buy games. Unless their going by “most server pings” as their kpi

[2moda5gamer]

FF14 while going still strong is in it's end game - this is just the draw out it's life and cashflow where they have been yet to do so.
Let's see what happens with the next online FF in the next few years.

[Goosejuice]

They just announced its new expansion along with graphic update in 7.0. I doubt it's in its last years

[2moda5gamer]

Oh damn I thought it's last update a while was it, honestly my bad.
Thanks for the correction!

[Snookies12]

What? Lol, no it's not in the end game. It literally just started a brand new chapter to things. It simply finished a lengthy arc that spanned several expansions and is onto something new. I haven't even finished Shadowbringers and I know that much...

[2moda5gamer]

Yeah that was my confusion/mistake!

[PapaBop]

We won't be seeing a successor for a long time. FF14 is still far too big for them to even be considering a sequel at this point.

[z2g]

Conveniently after also trying to explain slow sales…. We don’t need your leftovers.

Good on Phil tho.

[Kayser81]

Looks like Phil Spencer check has been approved lol

[MadLad]

How is this going to affect Sony's purchase of Square Enix that's been right around the corner for about a decade now?

[__SteakDeck__]

Phil brought that checkbook again. Lol Phil’s answer to everything is always money. He saw that Xbox was being ripped for not having Square games on Xbox, so he paid to have these games in his platform, even if they don’t sell well.

[anast]

The S version is going to be jank.

[gold_drake]

money talks

[fsfsxii]

playstation leftovers lmao
all of the 2 people who play ff will enjoy it, as you can bet microscam footed the bill for it.

[PapaBop]

Lol what? Going by the current statistics, exactly 21,180,229 have played the game in the last 30 days.

[gold_drake]

hes talking about xbox players specifically

[goldwyncq]

Playstation fans who cry about CoD potentially becoming Xbox exclusive yet cheer for big franchises such as Final Fantasy being locked behind PS consoles are big, stinking hypocrites.

[gold_drake]

i wouldnt so say no.

call of duty might habe sold a ton on ps, but i think its fanbase is also on pc.

while FF on the other hand is seen as a playstation game and has no foothold on xbox, like at all.

two different instances.

[goldwyncq]

I guess FFVII Remake is next, then XVI.

[Soulsborne]

Gotta give credit where credit is due, xbots had no games at the start of 2023 and now has a 10 yr old mmorpg! The gamepass renters sure will be hyped to pay a monthly sub.

[EvertonFC]

Certainly took a few pointers from playstation with he new UI, looks alot better imo. I thought you lot disliked the PlayStation UI? You seem to like it now haha

[The_Blue]

Lol. All those sorry fanboys cringe

[neomahi]

Good on Xbox and good for Xbox fans. PlayStation's dropping the ball. Jack Tretton, Andrew House, and Adam Boyes/Shu Yoshida wouldn't have let this happen but Jim Ryan did so, PlayStation's loss is Xbox's gain so long as Jim Ryan's in the driver seat, which somehow he still is.

Now, I get that console manufacturers are treading lightly as they can't dictate how third-party devs run their business, that's 90's Nintendo tactic under Peter Mann and Howard Lincoln but, you gotta know how to talk to them and Xbox seems to yelling pretty loud. Everyone in the industry saw that $70 billion buyout and now everyone wants a taste of that pie so kiss enough butt and maybe you'll be offered the $$$$$$. These days, honor and pride and morality don't run the world, $$$$$ does and with Xbox flashing Microsoft's cash, that'll do it. Jim Ryans a termite. Herman Hulst? Did great running Guerilla Games but, I guess Europe wants to run PlayStation (didn't PlayStation HQ get moved to California during Jack Tretton or Shawn Layden?) but they thought they'd have a nice cushy ride off the wave of success from getting out the PS3 debacle in 2009 and through the PS4 and Jim Ryan thought the PS5 was gonna be smooth sailing and he could sit in his leather chair and sip bourbon and he got complacent so, now he's made a mess someone has to clean up

[Armyofdarkness]

It will be interesting to see how many Xbox players that are willing to pay the monthly fee in addition to game pass.

[Exvalos]

Xbox guys don't even like paying for games, and you really think they about to pay a monthly subscription? That game gonna flop and flop hard on Xbox.