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CD Projekt: "We need to fix the relationship with our players"

From GI.biz: "CD Projekt on the launch of Cyberpunk 2077, rebuilding gamer trust, the new expansion, and the future of the studio."

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-Foxtrot315d ago

Jesus this guy man, they are living in their own word

Basically gamers are the problem, not them

The more they talk like this the less likely I want to give it a second chance

Inverno314d ago

Let's be honest gamers ARE the problem. Look at every game that has released in a completely broken and unplayable state. Every game released with horrible monetization. Look at the attitude people have a couple years after everything has been "fixed". I don't hate on this game, I simply dislike their condescending attitude towards the legitimate criticism they received. And that's why I refuse to buy it no matter how "fixed" it is now.

TallDarknWavy313d ago

I see you didn't bother to read the article. In no way are gamers every blamed for anything, there is no condescension, if anything they only said they had a can-do attitude on fixing and rebuilding everything.

jznrpg315d ago

It was pretty damn bad. About Redfall bad but a pretty good game was underneath it but it wasn’t what they hyped it to be. Redfall is still crap no matter what they do for that game

Knightofelemia315d ago (Edited 315d ago )

Sure it wasn't and tinfoil hats prevent harmful UV rays from cooking your brain.

isarai315d ago

It's this crap right here, this persistent attitude of actually treating us like blind idiots, that's the reason that no matter how much they "fix" CP2077 I refuse to buy it. I'm not gonna be pissed on and told it's rain just to say all's well when you finally fix what should've never been that broken. If you got a good game that launches in a poor state, fine, I'll wait till you fix it, I've done so with some other games where the end result is worth it, but do just that, shut up and fix it, don't REPEATEDLY tell me I'm not seeing what I'm clearly seeing.

VivaChe314d ago

Yes, and also, let's not forget that even aside from the bugs and broken parts, the underlying game was not nearly what was promoted in those very glossy promo videos. This was supposed to be a much deeper and more fully-realized world than they released.

The Brain Dance mechanic was one example -- it was supposed to be a deep detective experience that would offer multiple layers of gameplay and multiple ways of achieving your objectives. In the released game, it was a little-used, throw-away mechanic that appears a couple of times.

I played it at launch and I actually had very few technical issues on the PS5 version, but even so I would have given it a 6/10.

isarai314d ago

The main things I knew were likely BS but hoped they would pull it off were apartment complexes being like their own explorable village full of quests and fully hackable like they claimed and advertised. And the neural socket hacking they showed in one of the gameplay videos.

shinoff2183315d ago (Edited 315d ago )

That's utter bs for real. It was bad. They better not be trying to re write history. They better off just owning it

To this day I still don't believe they delivered. Someone bought it for me as a gift and I played through it on account of not wanting to seem like an ass to the person. I enjoyed it but felt lied to so much. I'll wait until the ps5 version is cheap and bundled physically with the dlc.

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My Trust in Xbox is on Shaky Ground Right Now

The Outerhaven writes: With multiple gaming studios, including Tango Gameworks, closing, the editor-in-chief of The Outerhaven shares his thoughts on the matter.

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rlow12h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Honestly I was looking back and at the launch of the Xbox 1. With Don Matrick at the helm I was disappointed but therevwas something else. That fighting spirit of Xbox at its inception was lost. They stopped innovating, I lost excitement on what the next big new surprise was, because their weren’t any. Not like Halo 2 and Gears launch. You couldn’t really brag about it anymore.
So here we are and corporate MS has ruined what was a beautiful renegade project.

shadowhaxor38m ago

For everything that Xbox did, I was hopeful it would turn stuff around. Game Pass was a start, and the release of its upcoming titles was a nice way to return. I mean, I'm not going to say it was perfect, just like I wouldn't say PlayStation is perfect. Neither company is, but when Xbox goes and does this, it makes zero sense. The message of Xbox's plan had already had me frustrated, but I was like, "Maybe they'll fix this mess."

Now... yeah. Not so confident anymore.

Aphrodia27m ago(Edited 25m ago)

That's how you know this is clickbait garbage. If you write about games for a living and didn't know Microsoft is a cancer on the industry until now than you are awful at your job.

XiNatsuDragnel2h ago

Xbox will destroy Activision too and Bethesda will be gone too lol

Chocoburger1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Right now"?
But not 11 years ago with the disastrous Xbox One reveal which they NEVER recovered from?
Man are you slow on the uptake.

shadowhaxor36m ago

No, Xbox never recovered, but Game Pass (which you're a fool if you deny the success of it), Xbox Cloud, the acquisitions, the reboot of Perfect Dark (which seems to be in the gutter now), the success of Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, and yes, Hi-Fi Rush (FFS).

Denying any sort of improvement only goes to show you don't pay any attention to the entire picture.

Crows9026m ago

I think you missed the part where these things were spread years apart. Theres no consistency

notachance1h ago

I imagine smaller ABK studios like toys for bob and beenox are now feeling uncertain about their futures

LucasRuinedChildhood1h ago

Thankfully Toys for Bob managed to safely separate from Xbox and are independent now.

notachance1h ago

lol I don't know that, thanks for clarifying

TheColbertinator1h ago

Beenox has been in danger for years now with Activision. Microsoft may act more ruthlessly to them unfortunately.

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Hi-fi Rush is too good a game to be shut down

It was announced today that Tango Gameworks, the studio behind Hi-Fi Rush, will be shut down, which casts doubt on the future of the game.

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z2g10h ago

I’m sure the support and franchise will live on due to its success. They may even keep some ppl and roll them into other studios. There are layoffs across the map tho in the game/tech industries in general tho including Sony, Facebook and more. My personal family has been affected by them.

Lightning7710h ago

No excuses for MS. I guess Hi Fi didn't do as well as we all thought. So Much the for fun Little experiences that MS has been wanting games of all sizes. The thing is MS are so predictable this year they say "oh we want to prioritize bigger games." Next year they'll have more shut downs and say oh well these ballooning budgets of AAA blah, blah, blah. Even though a year prior they said they want more bigger games. When are gonna admit MS can't do or won't do gaming right? It's always waiting for this and that. String you along while destroying ppls jobs. Year in and year out.

Cacabunga6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

MS’ aren’t gamers they are businessmen.. they prefer a terrible game that sells and makes money to a great game with potential and can be used to grow a wider fanbase.. a bunch of crooks 🤮

TwoPicklesGood2h ago

Uhh Sony has laid more % of people off than MS…

notachance3h ago

this MS employee goes around every posts about MS studio closure and made deflecting comments in all of them lmao

Kaii9h ago

Yet MS made a company-wide profit of $22 billion.
In my eyes releasing this on gamepass was a double edged sword approach, received extremely well, but didn't hit w.e batshit insane sales target MS had In mind

jznrpg4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Nothing will sell well when they have trained their fanbase to rely on GamePass. (There could be a unicorn every decade or something like that) The price has to go up a lot or more than likely they close a lot of studios to get upkeep way down and have few studios handle all of the IP and still raise gamepass price just not as much as necessary to keep those doors open for all of the devs that created the IPs MS now owns.

Plague-Doctor2756m ago(Edited 55m ago)

The problem is it did seem to hit their targets

https://x.com/aarongreenber...

XiNatsuDragnel9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Hifi is good but Microsoft dislikes risk I guess.

purple1018h ago

have all the people saying m$ buying all those companies, been proved correct yet,

they said more games, more choice, but ended up
less choice, less games, in reality... we were right

Crows904h ago

It sucks to be right sometimes. Love tango works games with evil within. Also huge fan of prey...if redfall had been a single player story driven title I bet your ass they could've done wonders with freaking vampires.

Asplundh5h ago

They developed the highest rated game Xbox has had as a exclusive in years and they shut them down? Doesn't make much sense.

jznrpg4h ago

Makes sense to me. They still have the IP the studios mean nothing to MS

TwoPicklesGood2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It does when it was a nice Indy time that didn’t make money. Unlike you, they think as a business and if the studio made enough money it would have been safe. One of the biggest companies in the world knows not then you, me, or any other random no matter what you abt to believe.

Asplundh1h ago

"Unlike you, they think as a busines"

Yeah a very poorly ran business, the brand has been going down the toilet for over a decade. With all the dumb decision making, it's not suprising why they're going 3rd party.

Plague-Doctor2748m ago(Edited 45m ago)

You can't give your games away for free and then shut down studios when they don't sell. Extremely idiotic thinking

Yui_Suzumiya48m ago

I'm pissed about this. I loved Tango Gameworks.

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Arkane Studios Devs React To Arkane Austin Shutdown, Call It "Absolutely Terrible"

Developers at Arkane Studios are reacting to the announcement of the shutdown of Arkane Austin, calling it "absolutely terrible".

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XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Of course it is this is why big companies gobbling other companies is bad.

Cacabunga7h ago

yes and this is what happens when you sign pact with the devil himself..

crazyCoconuts4h ago

There are textbook scenarios where it's good...
Microsoft is definitely not one of those scenarios

RhinoGamer889h ago

I get it, but frankly, AA failed pretty badly on Redfall. The XBOX production team is also to blame (they are safe as usual) for releasing a game this hyped in a sorry state. There are lots of fail points on Redfall, but only Arkane bears the pain.

MrBaskerville9h ago

They were set up to fail by Zenimax and had been for a while. They should have done Prey 2, but instead were forced to do mp games.

-Foxtrot8h ago

Apparently even with Prey they wanted to name it something else, they didn't want to use the Prey name because it had nothing to do with it.

That alone put a lot of people off playing it out of support for the original.

MrBaskerville7h ago

@Foxtrot
Yeah, it was a mess, that whole business. Could probably also have done a killer Dishonored 3 if given the chance, right after Prey, when they had a top tier team.

darthv727h ago

the game (at launch) certainly wasnt all that. the performance update later on made it better but Im glad I got the special edition controllers when I did. Those are nice.

crazyCoconuts4h ago

True. We don't know exactly who to blame for what, but end of the day you're not getting paid to put out crappy games.
I hope at least they kept the good people and moved them into other divisions

PapaBop9h ago

"Welcome to the Xbox family, graveyard is out back, what should we put on your epitaph?" Microsoft turning into this generation's EA, spend all those billions on Activision while closing studios they've run into the ground.

Hofstaderman8h ago

Papa Satya wants his ROI. No free lunch.

rlow18h ago

Why I’m really disappointed in Xbox and MS at large. At the same time let’s not pretend that somehow this isn’t an industry issue. Theirs a graveyard behind every major publisher. The only company I haven’t seen canning people is Nintendo and let’s hope that trend continues.

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