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The next big leap in PC gaming performance isn't just about bigger, faster graphics cards

PC Gamer : There's a smarter way to bump your frame rate.

masterfox884d ago

"There's a smarter way to bump your frame rate"

Yeah is called optimization lol, I hope PC gaming starts using that more often, lots of people don't realize that their old card probably never used its true potential cause lazy developers and so people thought they needed a new card, I mean just look the past old consoles what they can do, or even easier example is, I been using that FSR mode in some games and the FPS boost is freaking insane without lowering the resolution in the video settings and I'm using a freaking 1060 GTX 6 GB old card, DLSS could work as well but Nvidia blocked its mode to only 2000 series cards and above, AMD end up being the most customer friendly cause I can use its mode in a branded NVidia card, a really good reputation increase for AMD no doubt.

RaidenBlack884d ago

"their old card probably never used its true potential cause lazy developers and so people thought they needed a new card"
~ Amen, brother.

PeeShuter883d ago

You want to see optimization??? Look no further than Doom Eternal. That game looks freaking amazing still runs great. I am running same card as you and get smooth 60fps on high setting @1080p.

NickN883d ago

Rest assured that the next Doom game, won't be using Vulkan because that IP is now owned by Microsoft. I'm sure it'll likely be DX12 or 13, etc.

GoodGuy09883d ago

I was able to run doom 1 1080p 144 easy on my gtx 1060 gaming laptop lol. Indeed great optimization.

LordoftheCritics883d ago

Bethesda can put out Doom Eternal, possibly the most optimized AAA title last gen and at the same time release Fallout 76 the most......

Tapani883d ago

I agree! I'd like to see much more optimization from devs, seems like PC is always the afterthought. But at the same time, typically after 12-18 months of patches and new drivers for GPUs, the games tend to perform linearly compared to consoles in the end. I mean I remember my PS4 Pro looking stunning on Shadow of the Tomb Raider checkerboarded 4K, but if you put the PS5 version against similar RDNA2 parts, they actually perform as per the specs. Consoles do tend to slightly punch above their weight at release, but PC catches up within a year or so.

Love the options such as DLSS, NIS, FSR, RSR, XeSS + settings tuning. To me though, who's more interested in the games and their contents (albeit tech is interesting as well), I typically just set my display resolution and the highest possible settings as long as the fps is locked 60fps without drops under 55.

Michiel1989883d ago

as if its possible to optimize for 200+ different cards. and you think your console gets max performance during the whole gen? maybe only santa monica's and ND's last games of the gen squeeze out most performance out of the console.

The reason consoles can get away while being relatively underpowered the whole gen is because there is no variables in the hardware and everything is focused on gaming. Every dev will develop for the exact same hardware specs making it way easier to optimize for it. This will never happen for pc unless the pc market changes drastically.

Rainbowcookie883d ago

To be fair and this is coming from a console gamer. Its easier to optimise for console since you have either 1 or at most 3 with the backend being the new variants. With Pc you have many different combos motherboards, ram hardrives, gfix cards ect. That said a game with certain specs should run at those speca, like you said. I feel pc development since graphics cards came out have been to throw power at it and it will run right, before then there was better optimisation. I remember having a 486 2mb ram 114 mb hd and it ran everything...then came along quake. The framerate was bad but it was playable. I added more ram or upgraded to a pentium 1 i think and it was better again. Then came unreal and you had all these cards. Voodoo chipset this and that and then you could see the difference in different setups.

IanTH883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

1) If you like FSR, check out Nvidia Image Scaling since you have a GTX card, assuming you haven't already. It's a driver level setting that does a comparable job to FSR in upscaling games, and you can use that in any game. You can access it either through the Nvidia Control Panel or, more easily, Gefore Experience.

2) I'm not sure what you mean by FSR mode "without lowering the resolution in the video settings". The whole thing with FSR/NIS/DLSS is that it is rendering in a lower resolution & scaling that up to a higher output resolution.

Einhander1971883d ago

Well said couldn't agree more, that's why I prefer consoles. Its not always about cutting edge tech, it's about pushing the hardware to its limits and optimization!! PC graphics cards hardly see there full potential, before the next one comes out.

KeeseToast883d ago

"DLSS could work as well but Nvidia blocked its mode to only 2000 series cards and above"

You have no idea what you are talking about. DLSS is using Tensor cores for AI acceleration, something that is only present in 2000 models and upwards. FSR is completely different to what it does. DLSS could be more open yes, but it would still need specialized hardware for that. We'll see how intel's XeSS is goint to handle upscaling.

telgou883d ago

Even good developers stopped optimizing their games like they used to... now everyone depends on the raw power of the newer (non existent) GPUs and even these GPUs are now recommended just for 1080p Raytracing...

jonivtec883d ago

L'optimization n'est pas toujours si mauvaise....mais plutôt le réflexe de toujours vouloir pousser les details en niveau Ultra sans faire de concessions...quand en réalité la différence réelle avec les details en medium n'est pas si grande.amen.

CaptainHenry916883d ago (Edited 883d ago )

I have a rtx 3080 and I still be having problems. Far Cry 6 wasn't optimize that well either

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Fntastic884d ago

Only in the last year or so we've gotten decent 27" 4k monitors with good pixel response and 160+Hz. We still need next gen cards to drive that resolution and speed as the graphics get more complex.

People will probably rave about 8k next but it's not much good when games will run like crap, have high pixel response times and probably be limited to 60Hz along with being expensive.

plmkoh883d ago

Having a 3080ti you can see it's very unsustainable and the heat generation is fairly awful to game with.

Unfortunately with the exorbitant prices orchestrated by Nvidia and signs they intend on keeping it that way, I can't see them putting the brakes on bigger and bigger graphics cards.

Rainbowcookie883d ago

somewhere the heat will catch up and the whole way we create cards and cooling will need to change. Otherwise we will have a stalemate. I just fear for online only cloud computing machines that are bandwith driven meaning only some will benefit, and you essentially dont own anything.

XbladeTeddy883d ago

"somewhere the heat will catch up and the whole way we create cards and cooling will need to change."

It has, liquid cooling. Been around for years though not something needed just yet as standard.

Rainbowcookie882d ago

@Xblade you gotta over clock that sucka 😂😂

Bobertt883d ago

The leaks say the 4000 series cards are gonna use even more power. On the bright side you may not need a space heater if you keep your computer on lol.

Rainbowcookie883d ago

no I know about liquid cooling and the alternatives, I was meaning after that.

XbladeTeddy882d ago

@ Rainbowcookie: But we haven't even reached the point where liquid cooling is needed as standard yet. How far do you want to reach in the future lol.

NickN883d ago

It's a shame Steam Machines didn't take off. Coupled with Vulkan, it would have allowed low-level access or "coding to the metal" on GPUs.

It also would have been a one size fits all OS (Linux kernel) that wasn't bloated, taking away from the processing pipeline.

annoyedgamer883d ago

Steam Deck is being released soon.

Wretchedstain883d ago

Optimization for sure, Deus Ex Mankind Divided is a prime example. With my 3070, on max settings, terrible FPS for a game that is now 6 years old, and isn't stellar in the looks department.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv722d ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk2d ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan2d ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga2d ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--2d ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2d ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop2d ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto2d ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2d ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 20h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo2d ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman982d ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk2d ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer