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Activision cuts ties with voice actor of Ghost, Jeff Leach, after sexist comments resurface

Jeff Leach was the voice actor behind the Ghost character in Modern Warfare 2019 and Warzone. The entire original Modern Warfare cast was re-casted for the 2019 reboot, and Leach voiced Ghost when the character was added as an operator in Season 2 in February 2020.

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MadLad1095d ago

So more internet warriors got someone cancelled for having a vulgar, excessive sense of humor. Got it.

Jin_Sakai1095d ago

This generations sucks. Everyone’s so sensitive about everything.

MadLad1095d ago (Edited 1095d ago )

When social media started blowing up, it was seen as this magical way to be heard by the entire population.
It's now something whose rules you have to tiptoe around in order to not be banned, or have a horde of people to try to use it to screw you over in life.

I'm only 29, and have seen the true birth of the internet, its utilization for self-expression, and the eventual gate keeping it's now used for.

Eonjay1094d ago

Not really. Large corporations seek to maximize profits by attracting a diverse clientele. Therefore, if someone makes a public statement that can be seen as offensive, the companies don't want to be associated with that because they fear that it could undermine profits by detracting potential customers. And nothing more.

Rimeskeem1094d ago

Actually, the generation is practically the same as all the other generations, they just have social media now that lets them easily vent their insecurities, etc to the public masses and if someone agrees it's even easier to share and have a minority of people make it look much bigger than it is.

PrinceAli1094d ago

Holding people accountable isnt sensitivity... dont be an asshole and you wont get in trouble how is that difficult!?

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Eonjay1094d ago

@knightedHollow

If you think this is about anything more than money then you are buying the koolaid.

What is the purpose of a corporation? No catch phrases or half-baked political movements. Point blank, what is the purpose of a corporation?

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XbladeTeddy1094d ago

To be fair, the way he spoke about women was pretty vile from what I heard him say on the video. He sounds like a complete muppet in general who thinks he's something special. If you're the voice of a character in a big franchise you need to learn to keep your mouth shut and act professional or of course this stuff will happen. He did this to himself.

Eonjay1094d ago

This is correct. Especially if you may be seen as a representative of that product/company. I don't understand why people act like professionalism is something new out of California.

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Dragonslave1094d ago

If I recall Donald Trump had a voice recording surface saying grab them by the p***y and they can't do anything and he became president. So...

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CorndogBurglar1094d ago

@Dragonslave
The difference is Trump didn't have a company he worked for to fire him for the "Grab them by the P" comments. He owns his companies. He ran for president and people voted for him. Its pretty simple to see what the difference is there.

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PrinceAli1094d ago

Oh STFU you people are actually just plain and simply stupid! "Excessive sense of humour" is sucha stupid take.. you guys are always excusing stupidity and offensiveness as 'Dark Humour/Excessive Humour' its actually embarrassing!

MadLad1094d ago (Edited 1094d ago )

And people like you legitimize the sort of people who seemingly spend all their time scouring the internet net, trying to dig up whatever dirt they can on people they don't agree with politically, ideologically, or they simply don't share the same world view.

I'm sure you've never insulted someone on the internet. Oh wait, you just did. I'm sure you never had any drinks in you, or got worked up, and perhaps went overboard.
Luckily I can take an insult, or a vulgar joke, and not try my best to ruin your life in retaliation.

People are allowed to speak their mind. Private business is allowed to cut ties due to that choice.
People are then allowed to see the situation and call BS.

Sorry, we live in a world where there are people out there that will dig up statements from decades prior, jokes or no, and do everything they can to ruin people's lives in the current day; causing people to literally tiptoe around everything they say.

We truly are losing freedom of speech.

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MadLad1094d ago (Edited 1094d ago )

It's funny you hold the views you do. You can't post a single, levelheaded post not riddled with insults and verbiage obviously meant to incite anger in the person it's directed at.

You're so highly hypocritical, it's almost laughable.

You're someone, supposedly, defending the idea that people shouldn't be outwardly aggressive against other people, yet you act in the same exact way with anyone who holds a different worldview than you.

I conceded the guy said off color things. I stated I don't believe it should ruin someone's career.

You've proven me right in almost every post you've made here.
Going through your history, you're not exactly the nicest, most understanding individual found. You seemingly don't know how to address another individual you disagree with without mocking. No matter what the topic is. It says a lot about the character who is trying to criticize other people on their morals.

Extermin8or3_1094d ago

But it's true... some people do have a dark or vulgar sense of humour and within reason that should be allowed... this shit has gotten ridiculous... it's not like he said it at work or through his capacity as an employee of theirs...

I saw a great example of how far this has all gone on linkedin other day. This guy had posted a picture of his child that has downs syndrome with a comment about derogatory names people sometimes use- about her or something. Anyway this guy had commented "that he appreciated the matter but linkedin is surely meant to be for business stuff only and personal matters like that should go on facebook shouldn't they?" Now I don't agree however literally no sooner than he had made this comment there were a bunch of people informing him they had contacted his employer to find out well basically if they'd fire him for his comment. I mean wtf, why try to ruin peoples lives simply for voicing a view you don't agree with.

Elwenil1094d ago

I really enjoy watching leftists cry about something while doing the exact same thing. If you are going to throw a fit about being offensive, should you really be offensive in the same post? Look at all your posts in this thread, they are all full of bile and hate, the very things you are screaming against. I can't wait to see the left eat itself, it's already beginning.

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Christopher1089d ago

"We truly are losing freedom of speech."

Much like your namesake, you clearly don't understand that freedom of speech applies to speaking out against the government. It doesn't protect you in your private life from being fired or asked to leave the property of others.

The sooner people realize words can have consequences in the private sector, the sooner they'll realize where and when it's appropriate to have some edgy comedy moments.

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gamer78041094d ago (Edited 1094d ago )

Granted it’s a crass thing say but this cancel culture is frustrating

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Extermin8or3_1094d ago

@brrdatisback if you do it outside of your work environment, not in anyway affliated to that job and not directed at any work collegues then yes you should be able to make any joke you want and not be fired for it.

BrockEmSockEm1094d ago

seriously, wtf was the female gamers meeting in the video xD "what do we do?" "We need to stand up against it" ...jeez, it's all for publicity and internet points.

LordoftheCritics1094d ago

I'm glad. We don't need to celebrate ppl like him.

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wooferine1094d ago

Social media = mob. Cancellation = mob justice.

CDbiggen1094d ago

I cut ties with Activision after their patch handling for MW surfaced. They're an absolute DISGRACE.

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Abear211094d ago (Edited 1094d ago )

Another privileged man not thinking before he speaks. I think it’s hilarious. Problem is people NEED to be in front of that camera, even when they are well paid. Why? Just shut up with your views and bad jokes. It’s a privilege to be online not a right and until men start taking responsibility for what they say, specifically on the internet where you are judged by liberal expectations of the masses, this will keep happening…especially to white guys. He was ruthless btw watch the clip.

jznrpg1094d ago

It will happen to anyone man or woman or any race speaking that way towards another in a public space who is sponsoring a company publicly

kthxcrayon1094d ago

That's cool. Feel free to support the 39yo aggressively sexist dude who lost his job because of his repeated (and documented) malicious and prejudiced behavior directed primarily at young and teenage girls.

And, humor? If you believe that crap you're peddling, then I feel genuinely sorry for you: you have an obviously embittered future from existing in a society that tends towards equality over time.

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victorMaje1095d ago

His comments were directed at her, she’s a woman so of course now his comments become directed at all women, he gets cancelled, logic.

Activision: "…We are committed to delivering a fun and safe experience for all players".
Imo not a very fun or safe experience when everyone is scared of being cancelled because of what they might say.

People need to be very careful of the communities of hypocrites that are being created.

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BlackIceJoe1095d ago

Is there no forgiveness? What happened to letting people learn from their mistakes and become a better man or woman?

Every man and woman has made mistakes in the past and shouldn't be held to the same standards as if they did it today.

jznrpg1094d ago

He can still learn from his mistakes . But it doesn’t mean a company has to pay him for a public image they were paying for when it’s tarnished now , that’s just plain stupid .

MadLad1094d ago

The idea Activision/Blizzard run the company the way they do, but draw the line at our voice actor said mean things, is hilarious to me.

GameZenith1094d ago

I made mistakes but I never made vulgar, offensive or sexist comments to women.

There is making mistakes but come on....one should know that in today's climate such stuff is uncalled for.

MadLad1094d ago

"In today's climate" is the exact point.
What's tomorrow's climate? I'm on the left, but I wholly believe that we're not progressing, we're devolving.

Ratty1094d ago

People can grow up and change though so I agree with BlackIceJoe on that one. I'm not saying it can apply to the current situation but I see it as a problem with this kind of backlash. Make one mistake and your career is over forever.

Not to mention someone could easily take something you said years ago out of context and make you sound sexist or racist and there goes your future. And spoiler alert : the vast majority of people only read headlines so good luck making your case to all the Internet mobs who will mindlessly come for blood.

Then again a lot of people also got away with a lot worse than what Leach did. My point is that there's little to no true justice when those things blow up online.

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Rachel_Alucard1095d ago

Of course she'd respond using the words "Cis white men." I wouldn't of expected anyone else to care this much.

lifeisgamesok1095d ago

The cancel culture needs to be canceled

Gardenia1094d ago

Cancel culture is an embarrassment but the people who give in to it are even worse.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast4h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech51m ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom2h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21832h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus231h ago(Edited 1h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

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anast4h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast33m ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim20m ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

Eonjay4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman2h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto1h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA1h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda1h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1491h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MrDead3h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson2h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21831h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus231h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More

Microsoft has closed a number of Bethesda studios, including Redfall maker Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks, and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda, IGN can confirm.

Moegooner1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Hi-Fi Rush studio??? Seriously?? Goes to show quality matters lil to MS.

Worst gen ever. All big 3 battling are for who sucks the most. They just keep one upping one another.

-Foxtrot1d 2h ago

This does feel like a “quick Sony is getting shit on for Helldivers, let’s announce it now to minimise impact”

thesoftware7301d 2h ago

That is silly. Let's say there is some weird conspiracy. This announcement would effectively take ALL the attention away from the HD2 situation, especially since there is no longer an HD2 situation. I don't think anything will minimize this impact.

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

... so they announce it on a Tuesday? 36 hours after Sony cleared up everything?

You people care more about the next conspiracy than anything else.

Nevermind that Sony followed the golden rule of minimizing impact by announcing horrible news on a Friday.

Eonjay1d 2h ago

The constant weekly weird Sony drama is part of the industry's problem. Everyone else feels they can get away with murder. Also, what is the point of spending all that money if you just start shutting studios down. And... Redfall wasn't Arkane's fought. Microsoft new the shape the game was in but needed something for GamePass after a whole year of no releases into the service. Them taking it out on Arkane seems really disingenuous and distasteful. And WTF did Tango do? Didn't Todd just release a statement saying how he would never retire. Fire his ass.

romulus231d 2h ago

Well if that was the reason for the timing it didn't work.

darthv721d 1h ago

wow... i did not have them closing Tango and Arkane Austin on my bingo card.

Hofstaderman1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Yes it does. Arkane Austin I can understand but Tango Gameworks made an excellent game in Hi Fi Rush.
On review, it want really all on Austin for Redfall and its failure, they were forced to make a multiplayer games when their expertise was always single player driven first person games.

-Foxtrot1d 1h ago

Guys I’m not being all that serious…relax

Outside_ofthe_Box1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

"I don't think anything will minimize this impact."

It already has. Notice your comment(or lack there of) vs HD2.

On another note, I would like to see Microsoft buy more studios and do more shadows drops on subscription services like they did Hi-Fi Rush. It's great for the industry I was told by people on here.

Zeref22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works. Same thing with layoffs. All of a sudden everyone has layoffs around the same time

Cacabunga21h ago

MS will always make it to amaze me by showing the worse version of themselves every single time..

peppeaccardo21h ago

MS proving to the world that ttheir leadership cannot drive success from these new acquisitions. They have ran the numbers and they have realized that long term, without a clear direction from the motehrship, these are a loss for the company hence they need to be cut. I might be wrong but I am absolutelly sure that if these developers would have not been purchased by Microsoft they would be still on business. A shame ...

senorfartcushion8h ago

Both things have happened but N4G's commenters (90% Playstation ) will follow suit

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Einhander19721d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

10/10 deflection, the ol' Sony too deflect...

Let's not discuss the fact that PlayStations struggles have largely been caused by the fact that game pass has reshaped how consumers spend causing them to spend less as they play what is on subscriptions and don't buy games as much because they either have become subscription gamers or they fear the game will come to a subscription so they don't buy things.

And it's not just PlayStation, the whole industry has been effected, many big studios are struggling across the board to match sales targets from pre-game pass releases which is especially apparent in things like sequels.

Heck the best example was Microsoft's own Starfield which should have easily blasted past 10m sales by the end of 2023 going by sales of similar Bethesda games yet was only able to achieve 3m which of course was almost entirely on Steam.

Moegooner1d 2h ago

Or maybe it's because Sony hasn't released multiple worthwhile SP games like they normally do each gen and the ones they did released actually sold well.

Layoffs aren't because studios are struggling, but because major publishers want to maximise profit gains.

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Absolutely it's a service that's changed the way we view and consume games overall for the worse games have little value when they are part of a sub and become disposable doubly so if they are a day 1 freebie often it's the kiss of death for a game to be day 1 on gamepass as PlayStation players look at it like why do I have to pay 60 dollars for back 4 blood, payday 3 or outriders it'll be on PS plus soon enough and funny enough those games always fail to meet expectations sales are poor and longevity is poor.

When I see a game get a day 1 tag outside of first party my first thought is always something is wrong with it and it can't stand on its own feet so the publisher has made a deal to recoup development cost.

Even first party games have dropped in quality noticeably so since gamepass with gears 5 being the only good release I can think of since gamepass started

Petebloodyonion1d 1h ago

Wasn't aware that Gamepass is available on PlayStation.
Or are you telling us that a service from a console lacking in sales is so great that it affects the morale and buying habits of ppl lacking access to the service?

Also pretty sure that saying all of them competing for who sucks means the whole industry and not just Sony and MS.

Nitrowolf21d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

This is what people online want. They just don't know or understand it. So many have warned about consolidation, and exactly what they have fear has been happening

This isn't the end, expect more bought out studios to be closed in the next few years

Hofstaderman1d 1h ago

Spot on. All in the name "growth" to appease investors and shareholders. Can't sustain the lie though...it will always implode as illustrated by these closures. Applies to MS and Embracer.

TiredGamer19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

This. ^

Publishers are slowly mitigating all development risk since every new big/medium budget game has become too big to fail. Games are too expensive to make and the profitability for titles rests on a hair’s edge. When you need to sell 5 million copies of a game to be profitable, you know that we’ve turned a new page in gaming. The real victims here are the smaller studios/games that bring so much character and variety to the industry, like with Hi-Fi Rush.

It looks to me that Hi-Fi Rush did not fulfill financial expectations for moving the GamePass needle, and the sales from the PlayStation port experiment did not measure up either. So it gets the boot.

Sad day and era for gaming.

notachance16h ago

yeah smaller ABK studios like Toys For Bob are now in dangers

notachance1d 1h ago

I just don’t know how the hell a company that can spend $67b to purchase a publisher decided that it’s okay to close the studio that produces their best game last year.

Whoever the higher up there that decides this is completely out of touch of how the game industry works, the damn xbox division as a whole would’ve been closed already if they weren’t sustained by other MS divisions.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

I got in an argument with someone on reddit and they weren't haven't that Xbox isn't propped up by other divisions argument. They swore up and down that Xbox was pulling its own weight. I just stopped after a couple back and forths

TiredGamer19h ago

Didn’t move the GamePass needle and the PlayStation port couldn’t save the return on investment….

dumahim1d 1h ago

So this is what happens when you're pleased with the sales and investing in the studio? Good guy Phil at it again.

Sonic18811d ago (Edited 1d ago )

From Aaron Greenburg:

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in all key measurements and expectations. We couldn’t be happier with what the team at Tango Gameworks delivered with this surprise release."

😂😂😂 🤥🤥

Lightning7723h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Once again MS creates their own problems and they create their own animosity. Idc about their shitty excuse and "reasons" they're a incompetent company, plus all their Xbox fanboy influencers are dwindling I noticed. How many excuses can you make for a company like MS? Consoles are down and they're losing their own fanboy influencers also. That's all they had to cheer lead them now they're leaving them. Pretty nobody will be on MS dude no matter if they (if they ever but I doubt it) get their act together.

Trashy ass ppl and company....

If they go under eventual it's because of their own doing nobody else's.

porkChop21h ago

Yeah overall this gen is pretty shit. Everyone is making horrible decisions, great devs are getting either gutted or entirely shut down regardless of quality or success, very little in the way of innovative games, etc. This industry needs to see some drastic changes.

badz14910h ago

where are all the cheerleaders for MS acquisitions amid all these?? you guys happy now? this will not be the end of it, maybe just the beginning!

OptimusDK2h ago

Maybe it has to do with this:
Hinji Mikami is leaving Tango Gameworks in the coming months.On February 23 it was reported that Mikami would be departing Tango Gameworks. Bethesda has stepped in to confirm the report of Mikami's forthcoming departure from the studio he founded over a decade ago.

Mikami originally founded Tango Gameworks in 2010 after departing Capcom, having lead the development of iconic games like Resident Evil and Resident Evil 4.

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shadowT1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Tango Gameworks and Arkane?

RaidenBlack1d 2h ago

Arkane Austin (Prey developer)
Not Arkane Lyon ( Dishonored developer)

Crows901d 1h ago

Prey was fantastic. Red fall was shit because they were forced to do shit they didn't want to make.

Atkane Lyon did death loop I believe....I hated that one.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

I personally liked prey more.

RaidenBlack1d 1h ago

@shinoff2183
Because Prey was creative and different
Other than the live service Redfall, all other single-player Arkane projects have been creative and interesting

Tankbusta401d ago

@Crows90

So just because people don't want to do something in life...bad quality is excused? Look what happened over that bad quality? no more studio

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MrDead1d 1h ago

Will be more soon, I've said it before I can't see MS keeping Bethesda. I think they'll strip it's IPs and slowly close everything, it's what they do.

VariantAEC1d ago

No one wants to admit it, but yeah MS has a long history of pillaging other smaller corporations for IP and dispensing with everything else.

Zeref22h ago

That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?

MrDead21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

@Zeref
"That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?"

MS don't care about the studios, they want the IP's. They'll keep the big ones in house, the game engines they run on and licence the rest. Stacks of cash to be made from licensing IP's ...or just sit on them so no one else can use them.

blackblades19h ago

@Zeref silly fool, buy them for the IP have there other studios make the games using the IP names to sell them. We all know having a popular franchise name can sell

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Einhander19721d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Well xbox fans you got what you asked for... and honestly deserved...

It was so easily predictable that game pass was never going to be able to support all these studios.

If Microsoft can't win they are going to burn it all to the ground...

Countdown to Phil Spencer telling us "it's better for the gamers this way" yet again.

Barlos1d 1h ago

Agree but gamers didn't ask for people to be out of work.

VenomUK1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

@Barlos They indirectly did. Every person who made a wish list of who Microsoft should buy next and were sending tweets to Phil Spencer and Xbox with proposed studios, played a part.

The saddest part is the studios were closed because of the underperformance of their last games, and if they had been given a chance then their next games could’ve been great and succeeded. But it is the same old Phil Spencer Microsoft problem which is not giving them a chance, and that’s why he is not able to manage game studios.

VariantAEC1d ago

Yeah they did. Just because they refused to see what everyone with a brain was telling them doesn't mean they didn't know. They were told, they should've put up a fight and they didn't. This is the result. But who knows even if MS' fans weren't such boot-lickers, MS could've carried this out against their fans wishes anyway. Unfortunately, we have the hardcore MS defense bots running to deflect from any bad news and maybe, just maybe, MS felt empowered to do more damage as a result of their fans cheering this all on.

anast23h ago

They sold themselves out. Once people buy you they can do what they want. None of this should have been a surprise. When companies get bought out, they eventually get dismantled.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

Xbox fans were to busy daydreaming of Ms curbstopping Sony they didn't look at the big picture.

Einhander19721d 1h ago

Not disagreeing at all.

I want to add that from the day Microsoft announced game pass, before they even started buying up studios it was obvious that game pass wasn't going to be able to support itself.

It was so dumb that they doubled down on it by spending 100B on a service they knew only existed through subsidization.

They should have realized there was no way that adding massively more costs on a subscription they were subsidizing was certain to fail. Especially after seeing how it had devastated sales across the platform as a whole.

Heck by the time this generation started during covid when the console sales were similar PlayStation was already outselling xbox on multiplatform games 8:1 yet they still doubled down on it.

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Relientk771d 2h ago

This is beyond wrong. Like wtf!? Especially Tango Gameworks with Hi-Fi Rush. I've heard nothing but good things about that game. Just because Arkane Austin screwed up one game release doesn't mean you need to close them. It sounds like they were forced to do a multiplayer game when they're a single player studio. They could have made a Prey 2 or some other game next.

Just wow awful news.

Einhander19721d 2h ago

Apparently PlayStation owners didn't buy enough copies of Hi-Fi Rush...

romulus231d 2h ago

"Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements" amid rumors of poor sales. Following rumors that Tango Gameworks' Hi-Fish Rush didn't meet sales expectations, Xbox marketing VP Aaron Greenburg is defending the "break out hit" as a success by all metrics."

According to Aaron Greenburg it was a success so they shouldn't have even needed PlayStation owners to buy it. That being said, I bought it and really enjoyed it, it's a great game. Shame MS closed them down.

RpgSama1d 1h ago

@Romulus23

All lies by the Green Bug, that just means that a lot of people fired bullets or whatever in the game, that's the key measurements they care to share.

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game.

Crows901d 1h ago

That's usually what happens when you don't release it at the same time as other platforms....same thing happened with tomb raider reboot sequel. MS got exclusivity for a year and then when it came to PlayStation it barely sold. Nobody cared anymore.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

Still waiting on the physical release pre order window

VariantAEC1d ago

Well... I did my part. Hi-Fi Rush is a good game, but I don't think its MS' style. We don't really know how well it did or didn't perform by the numbers or whether it broke even. This could just be another MS blunder.

Elda23h ago

Exactly. MS purchasing a 3rd party studio & keeping games off of other platforms probably hurt them in the long run, then finally putting Hi Fi Rush on PS which in turn PS fans probably didn't care to buy & support Hi Fi Rush after a year later of release. Hi Fi Rush was released on Gamepass so it probably never really made any money selling solely.

Eonjay22h ago

@romulus23

Let's hope it didn't sell well because that would make this worse. Also I could have sworn I read an article about their next game in the works.

Seraphim20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I was wondering if that played any part considering the timing, though, XB claimed the game to be a success last year only on XB & PC. Regardless MS f'd up there too. They shadow dropped HiFi on XB/PC last year at the perfect time. This year when they released on PS not only had the hype died, but there were so many solid games available the first 3 months of this year to play.

I almost bought it on PC last year, but now that it dropped on PS I just have far too many games to play to bother...

If MS needs PS and even Switch sales they need a better strategy. At the very least a release date where players are more inticed to buy said game. The problem is always going to be that if they want exclusives the hype for these games will be dead a year later. The exceptions might be some of their heavy hitters.... 2 cents

Angyobangyo7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

PS and PC owners probably bought more copies that Xbox owners.

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CrashMania1d 2h ago

I can only imagine the little amount of revenue both games generated, sent straight to gamepass and excluded from the largest current gen console userbase. Not to say both games would have done well if they were on PS5 too, but you heavily damage to a games revenue when you put it on a stagnating sub service for a poorly selling console, can't really see people going out in droves to sub to GP to play this.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

Gamepass subs(most of Xbox players) don't buy games all like that so it's not sustainable. It's reality.

RaidenBlack1d 2h ago

Yea Austin made one of the most creative game of last gen with Prey and were forced to take risk with Redfall and now the whole studio is being closed.

Aphrodia1d 1h ago

Yes, that Tango gameworks/ Hi-Fi closure was an eye opener for me as well. Neither played it nor was interested in it myself but all I heard was everyone acting like it was the second coming of guitar hero or something.

I don't know what else to say other than modern gaming is an overwhelming sea of mediocrity and there's not enough voices of reason speaking up and saying that most games made these days are just not very good.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

Your playing the wrong games then. There's always been shovelware type games. Going back to wii, snes, nes, ps1 Xbox og. That's a bs blanket statement. As an older gamer since atari days I'd personally say this is a great time. If you can't find anything to play. That's on you

With all that said in no way or form am I speaking of multi-player games, gacha, or whatever. I'm strictly speaking on single player games.

Aphrodia22h ago

you are hilarious. trying to validate your comment by excluding over half of the games out there today. Pathetic man.

Neonridr1d ago

I'm more devastated at the loss of The Evil Within.

Chevalier14h ago

Wait I was told Xbox had great engagement numbers?! Some Xbox fans said they bought games when I told them Xbox customers don't buy games?

So Xbox bought studios to keep games off other platforms and forgot they conditioned Xbox customers to not buy games. Whoops.

So anyone else think Outer World's 2 dies 🤔? I'm thinking a small game losing out on Nintendo and Playstation gamers buying will kill this IP. But it's okay Xbox fans can get more COD! Halo, Gears and Forza! Woot that's a 'win'. Yay Gamepass FTW

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CrashMania1d 2h ago

Can't wait to see the usual try spin and play this down. So much for the heroic MS and Phil saving these studios eh.

Eonjay1d 2h ago

By the end of the day IGN will be talking about how this is right for the industry. Don't worry, Microsoft's PR is making the call now.

RpgSama1d 1h ago

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game, and I'm sure Arkhane failed just because they were both rushed and pressured into making a GaaS game they had no experience in doing and no support to get it completed out of the gate.

PrinceOfAnger1d 2h ago

Not a big deal only hi fi rush was good

Sony has closed
Manchester studio
Japan studio
Pixel opus
London studio
Ready At Dawn ...

RupeeHoarder1d 2h ago

The difference being Sony has a large group of other studios that have done something positive. Microsoft just closed the studio to the only good game they released in the past year (Hi-Fi Rush).

CrashMania1d 2h ago

They all suck as well of course. But MS spent 10s of billions on these publishers for mass consolidation, every made a song and dance about how MS would save them, using their endless Windows, 365 and Azure money to keep them open forever and how Phil was some hero.

Nothing is safe unless it makes money, even for MS.

romulus231d 2h ago

It is a big deal.

Microsoft has closed
Fasa Studios
Digital Anvil
Ensemble
Lionhead Studios
Press Play
Arkane Austin
Tango Gameworks

Einhander19721d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Wow how far back do you want to go back.

Lionhead Studios
Aces Game Studio
BigPark
Carbonated Game
Digital Anvil
Ensemble Studios
FASA Studio
Good Science Studio
Hired Gun
Microsoft Studios Japan
Microsoft Studios Victoria
Team Dakota
Xbox Entertainment Studios
Xbox Live Productions
Lift London
Access Software
Salt Lake Games Studio
Twisted Pixel Games
WingNut Interactive

And more before this, this was just their cuts during xbone era that Phil cut while he was at the head.

And some of those PlayStation studios were merged not closed, most of the UK studios were folded into each other.

Japan Studio was renamed to Asobi not closed, aAsobi was an internal team of Japan Studio the "closure" the press misinformed people about was more or less a name change, the studio is in the same building and when the change happened less than 5 people mostly leadership positions chose to leave the studio to form Bokeh Studio, which still works closely with Sony.

And even if your deflection stood on it's own, Microsoft spent 3 Billion 3 years ago almost to the date to buy Zenimax and has already closed 2 of it's biggest studios and decimated Zenimax's support studio structure.

It's no wonder Todd Howard was talking about "more frequent releases" and letting other studios make their IP's games. The days of big budget huge Bethesda games is over...

In fact sadly Microsoft has ushered in the end of big budget gaming as we know it with their obviously unsustainable subscription industry change.

And I feel fully confident that this isn't the end of studio closures from these recently purchased studios.

Abnor_Mal1d 1h ago

Ready At Dawn was never a Sony owned studio, and only made a few smaller God of War games and a Jax and Daxter spin off, and of course The Order1866.

They are currently owned by OcUlus Studios.

MrDead1d 1h ago

How many times has MS fired Bethesda staff since they purchased it? I think it's been three rounds so far

BehindTheRows1d 1h ago

Deflection is the finest form of delusion.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

London studio what have they made recently. Really the worst one was Japan studio. That sucked.

In reality though your deflecting. The fact of the matter is Ms just closed the studio that made their highest rated game in years. That's insane.

Hofstaderman1d 1h ago

Also many of those staff were absorbed into other studios.

VariantAEC23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Ready At Dawn was never a PS first party studio.
Manchester was closed and it was proposed that London should be closed, but their website is still up with no news about it being closed on their official site anywhere. So it's possible that the proposed closure just did not happen to get fufilled. Meaning London Studio *MIGHT* still be open running lean.

Edit: Japan Studio was closed with some staff making up the new Asobi Team Studio who's first title was the PS5 pack-in game "Astro's Playroom." Pixel Opus was closed and not replaced or spun-off their only games were Entwined and Concrete Genie they also helped publish Journey according to Wikipedia.

Chevalier14h ago

Man you got crap info

Sony never owned Ready at Dawn. It's now owned by Oculus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Tacoboto1d 2h ago

Phil needs to step down. What kind of usual spin do you want?

More and more people lose jobs but the people at the top stay the same. Hardware sales tank despite billions and billions spent. The math is plain and simple.

Sonic18811d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I'm still trying to figure out what was the real reason to acquire Bethesda for millions or Billions of dollars if you're closing down studios 🤔 What were their true intentions 🤔 I mean do Microsoft really want to be a third-party publisher? It sounds like they're confused.with their future in gaming

VariantAEC23h ago

@Sonic1881
To rape each studio for their sweet succulent ultra-valuable IP. This is Microsoft's favorite past-time.

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The Name "Embracer Group" Is No More, But Don't Say You Didn't See It Coming

A reckless buying spree only to jeopardize it all, Embracer Group's heinous practices have done a lot of damage; it had the downfall coming.

mastershredder5d ago

THEY. It's a collective of investors that give no f-s unless the monkey dances for money and delivers. downfall? Urm.. dude... do you understand this is a rinse and repeat process? They won and bailed before plane crashed, the working industry did not. People saw investment money and sold themselves and the industry out like hot real estate, and now look at it. Honestly, you should be more upset with the studios that jumped on board for the carrots rather than those that were handing them out.

Knightofelemia5d ago

Seen it coming. When a fool spends money with out a plan and purchases every thing they see. Those they have purchased feel the ramifications. Now Embracer has to sell off studios to make up for their stupidity. I am just glad Gearbox went to Take Two and not to someone like say Tencent. What Embracer did was stupid and because of their stupidity bottom feeders like Tencent will be circling around picking at the scraps. Next time if there is a next time fully plan something out before whipping out the cheque book. Figure out how you can utilize the company, figure out how they can fit in, figure out how you can work with them and how their games can fit in nicely with the purchase. Being a dumbass with out a plan and a big cheque book does bite you and those around you in the ass.

TheColbertinator3d ago

Disgraceful publisher. I had some hope in them when they saved the THQ properties but now they are a stain on the industry.

Inverno3d ago

It's splitting up, the people who caused this shite show will still be around. Who knows how much more damage they will cause. Or where most will move onto in the future. Industry gotta be careful, you sign yourselves away thinking you'll have funding and security only to be bought up to be fed into a grinder.

anast3d ago

A lot of people lost their job while others made a ton of money.

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